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Between Him and Her (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for Channel A’s realistic take on romance with Between Him and Her, where Donghae and Lee Seol are feeling the 7-year itch.

This is your place to chat about the drama as it airs.

Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 
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The first photo is giving off early 2000s vibe!

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I am glad we got a hangout for this one as I feel like we could get some interesting perspectives on modern relationships. It is interesting how many dramas show long term relationships where the conversation about marriage or children was not discussed until very late in the process and often differences of opinion in these areas lead to significant conflict in a seemingly strong relationship.

I think the drama started well establishing the foundations of the relationship and I like that they showed the history of their journey in life as their relationship has seen them transition from students to setting up their own business to dealing with the challenges of growing a business. Some of the important character building events in life were shown so we will be able to see whether they are able to manage the current stage of their careers and the impact this is having on their relationship.

I also liked that we saw they both fail to communicate about important issues; timing was not always great for effective communication and they didn’t seem to prioritise time for these discussions. It was interesting to note that they don’t seem to have any friends who are in established relationships, they all presented as unable to read the room or give measured advice or support.

I like the way they showed the relationship it was light enough to keep it interesting whilst still demonstrating serious flaws. It will not be easy to keep the tone right for 16 episodes especially as it’s a once a week drop which is bound to be impacted on at least one occasion by something like a sports event. They will need to work hard so the audience doesn’t become so annoyed with one or both of the characters or start to feel it’s too depressing to be entertaining. I look forward to next week’s episode.

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Just finished ep 1 and you've more or less summed up my thoughts too Mother Bean! It does look like it's set up to provide interesting insights into modern relationships, and that's the bit I best 'enjoyed' about this first episode. The flashbacks interwoven into the current timeline makes for good juxtaposition and also really does do well in establishing both character and helping the audience understand the situation. I think it also highlights the idealised 'honeymoon' period of when a relationship starts, and then the thorny realism that starts to come out later down the line when you start facing crossroads on decisions like finances, marriage and the future.

The friends I thought were, unfortunately, quite realistic in their behaviour - although somewhat annoying and defs not able to read the room, I don't have enough hands to count just how many iterations of these people I know IRL. Plus there's always these little points of tension that happen when you either date in the same friend group or your friendship circles merge once you start dating and it almost always adds another layer of complexity to the relationship.

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Why this kind of drama always are the same with different people? The scene of the toilet in the bathroom and sex talk after 3 minutes is so often used... They always have communication issues and misunderstandings.

It would be nice to see a couple already formed with an original story for once.

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Ahh!! hahah found it omg, thanks for commenting before Kurama, I might've missed this entirely otherwise

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You're welcome!

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Our Super Junior Donghae hasn't been in K-drama since 2014 according to Asianwiki wow! He fits the role well. I got a pretty good impression after the first episode although Reply 1988 reminds us this is a once a week drop, which is a pet peeve of mine. Or at least it is in theory since I'm still watching It's a Good Day to be a Dog ha ha!
Oh, and it reminds me of my girlfriend who said her husband was watching cartoons with his brothers the morning they got married so, yeah, guys and hanging out can be relationship hurdle. Lack of communication is a self-protection mode and that certainly is evident with our couple. Because being honest means setting aside pride, ouch. I so wish he would have told her he protected "them" when he walked away from Underw . . . I mean Winders. Anyhoot, I'm in. Thank you for the link Reply 1988!

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You’re welcome @owl22 if we tag each when we reply that will make sure we see each other’s comments each week. If the activity doesn’t pick up after the holidays it looks like it may be one of the quiet hangouts like The cold bloodied intern hangout where a few beanies were put off by some of the early episodes.
Oh gosh some people don’t transition well from singledom to long term relationships and the balance between keeping independence and friendships and being a committed partner is a delicate one that can go too far either way.

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He starred in another drama this year, "Oh! Youngsim".

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Thanks OAsia!

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Please save yourself and don’t watch that drama it was not good😬

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- The main lead's friends are morons - not only do they stay late in their friend's apartment and leave trash in there, but they also encourage said friend to cheat on his long time girlfriend (who btw pays for their hangout location). I hate these people and I know them in real life.

- The main couple is well written till now. I don't particularly cheer for them or wish for them to break up. In a lot of way, they came out exactly the way writer envisioned them - without a passion and almost instinctive (or family-like?) level of care.

- I genuinely hate the blurry filter. The actors are gorgeous, the locations are pretty. There is really no need to make it seem like it was shot on a low-budget Aliexpress camera.

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"...and I know them in real life." No kidding, which is why they drive us even crazier!

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I like! It's not exactly a comfort drama but I appreciate the premise & how realistic it is. I truly felt like I was standing on the precipice of the relationship along with the leads, teetering towards 'break up' and then pulling back into 'no but make it work' and I thought it was cool that both are flawed but not in a way that makes one more unlikeable, just in ways that make them feel more real and understandable.

And to that, I think having equal time split between ML and FL for audience to understand them really put a spin on things - because we're first privy to what the FL is going through, her thoughts and frustrations which made me fully sympathise with her during first fight, and then the meeting with Winders helped flesh out the ML's character more and made him more sympathetic in the second fight - but at the same time I understood exactly where the FL was coming from still. So in a weird way I understood both of them and could also see exactly where the points of tension were, and I like the depth that brings into making this situation feel really real.

Looking forward to seeing what happens next week - I'm 98% sure that the ending was a red herring in terms of what we're assuming happened, but given their current issues with communication it'll be interesting to see if this potential misunderstanding is what pushes the relationship over the edge, and how the leads grow from that.

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Maybe a big break up and then a big make up

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I reckon so - break up, work on yourselves, then a big make up

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Week two
This felt like a long time coming, I am so looking forward to tonight’s episode. I really hope I am not going to be disappointed after such an interesting start to the series.

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I think the way they portrayed the situation was very realistic; the ambiguity, the upset, not saying the words but worrying there is no way back. I am very happy with the series so far.

I am confused about the women, are they all part of the same friendship group from school or acquaintances that meet up because the couple have been together so long it just seems that they know the men well?

I don’t think the couple have trustworthy friends who are reliable supports in difficult times so I am not sure how much they will hinder the couple working out what is best for them going forward.

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About the women friends, I had to rewatch some parts to follow how the model is connected, and still, I’m unsure of who is close to who. None of their friends, male and female, seem like they root for the couple to have a healthy relationship. So I hope the ending of the episode points to Sung-ok and Hyun-sung being willing to work on what they have going and what went wrong.

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@owl22 @lapislazulii @nerdy have you seen this week’s episode? Thoughts?

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Hurting people hurt others when they don’t properly face their feelings and go into self-protection mode, and there is plenty of that going on in ep 2.
When Hyun-sung asks, “How did we end up this way?” It feels like they took each other for granted and time worked against them instead of for them.
I liked the scenes where they thought back on “then “ compared to the present, like when Hyun-sung remembered being nagged by Sung-ok, but realized he should have been more attentive. And when sung-ok looked at the empty space and thought back on their first business sale and how excited they were! And the then and now karaoke scenes were cute enough. I do like Lee Dong-Hae’sand Lee Seoul’ s acting. But for 54 minutes, there weren’t any surprises, and I am feeling it’s a little lacking in excitement . Anyone else feeling that way?

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I think the one episode a week format is what is going to make this harder to watch as the cliff hanger endings, intro to all the characters and the telling of the story really benefit when there are two episodes a week to complete something and start something new.

This week was slower than last week and had more reflective moments but I am keen to give it the 4 episode test before making a judgement call. It’s just a shame that will mean a month’s worth of viewing rather than the usual two weeks.

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I am also liking it well enough to stick with it, Reply 1988. As I mentioned, I like the main leads' acting quite a bit. Slice of life dramas are usually very watchable imo. Contrast the with The Legend of the Blue Sea that I am watching now with my brother (2-3 eps a night, mini binging) and I can say it's a good balance of genres!

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I just caught up with the new ep! Similar thoughts to @owl22 in that I quite liked how they weaved the past and present in this ep to show what they'd taken for granted / the little moments of happiness that got swept away by time. Felt like this was a lowkey painfully messy episode - not bc of writing but bc of the leads' situation - but in a way that felt like real and raw? It was rather 'slow', but I'm kind of vibing that because I'm watching this in a mote detached third person observer way, than the usual 'heavy investment personal investment in leads' kind of way, if that makes sense?? One week drop is such a pity though 😪

Also a note on the friends - I know we mentioned this last week, but the FL's best friend girl really made my eye twitch this week. Even though she did go tell Hyun-sung off, idk not a fan of how she keeps imposing her morals and views on the FL like she's dumb and doesn't know any better. Same with the ML's friends too.

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It does feel like I am observing their story rather than "heavy investment" as you stated so well. I do like that they can't let go of the other and it feels like they are aware of what went wrong. The ep ending seems hopeful for relationship repair!

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The show is leaning heavily into the "friends who give terrible dating advice" trope, and yet a lot of that - especially the misbehaving men - seems painfully true to life. I also have known these people and it took years to reduce their presence in my house, watching football late on work nights and grabbing bottles out of the wine rack. Those parts really hit home.

The one/week schedule wasn't enough to cement all these characters and their situation in my memory. I started ep. 2 and then had to go back and FF through nearly all of ep. 1 again to remember who is who, especially the model/former athlete friend. I guess the scar on her ankle is going to lead to exploration of some past trauma, and I don't care enough about her or any of the friend groups yet to be excited about that.

I have to admit I fell asleep around the time the other female friend showed up to check on her boyfriend Pig (whut? seriously?!?, so I'll finish tonight.

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Funny that we both are huh? what? why? with the model friend. Oh, her mother is another rather uninteresting character so far, too.

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I am late on the party. Thanks for mentioning me!

Now, I want the leads to get together. Frankly, their problems boil down to lack of passion. Such problem would arise in every long-term happy relationship at some point. I am generally 100% against the noble idioticy and the lack of communication, but in this case, it is perfectly justifiable. They are wondering whether they even want such a mundane relationship and use the hotel accident as a justification of why they can break up. Neither of them talks about how they most likely got cheated on because they don't really care about it all that much.

Whether the FL should break up with the ML because she also has to tolerate his annoying friend group is another matter all together.

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Good to see you back here before tomorrow’s episode. Are you still keen to watch? I am giving it the four episodes unless something drastic happens because I like the way they are showing the context they are operating in.

I agree the relationship needs some serious work if they want to revive the foundation it was built on.

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I am maybe forcing myself to watch the show....? The writing and the exploration of the leads' relationship are very good, but the dreamy filter is giving me some strong dissociation with the very realistic plot. I also strongly dislike the ML's friend group and I suspect the show will never address their codependency.

If I drop it, I feel like it will be one of those shows that I respect from afar. I will probably still tune in to read the beanies comments.

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I understand with limited watch time we need to choose our dramas wisely. If you are here for this weeks episode I will see you in here but if not no worries.

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The once a week drop, though, is a drama pace killer. *See It's a Good Day to be a Dog. Let's hope there aren't holiday or sports game preempts!!

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What makes me laugh is looking back I watched ER and all the other programmes one episode a week and just accepted it as normal. Now I have got used to two episodes a week anything less is no longer acceptable!

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I am also wondering about the never had a girlfriend friend anyone thinking he is going to be brought in as second male lead material? I got a hint of something in the first episode when he said he would leave with her then this episode he said she liked shrimps and when the male lead made some comment about she hates eating them because of the peeling he had said you know her best. It made me wonder if he had peeled them for her just as a matter of decency and she had eaten them happily but the male lead never puts in the effort so she wont eat them with the male lead.

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@owl22 @elinor @lapislazulii @nerdy check out the cover photo for the hangout I think that’s confirmation he will be a “no wheel” second lead (blue @mayhemf coined the term for second leads that serve no purpose to the story (exhibit one Welcome to Samdalri) and I loved it so will be using it from now on🤣) He never had a girlfriend and I just remembered he remembered the song she sang when the male lead went into the army. He may do a Love actually confession scene with handwritten notes at the door in the last but one episode if our couple finally sort themselves out and get married. Am I alone with this theory or will anyone else join me😆

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Week three:

I think this week’s episode will determine whether the handful of beanies watching this drama, decide to keep watching or drop. The final episodes of Tell me that you love me come out next week and new dramas are dropping this month so the competition will only increase.

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I am still in after this week’s episode.

They gave more scenes to the side characters which is needed to help them stick in the mind more. Also it seems they are using this to balance out the main story with some lighter elements. Points deducted for toilet humour and body shaming comments.

My second lead theory about Hyungsub contimues to grow they made a point of showing he was out on the rainy day when Hyunsung was loitering with intent around Sungok’s flat. His comments that she is doing ok and a flustered referencing to seeing her social media updates when questioned about how he knows raised suspicions for me. However, while that unrequited love situation is being kept in the background they are presenting Sungok with other potential love interests more openly but they all seem connected to the work context.

It is ridiculous how long the main leads have been circling around each other and avoiding having the much needed sober conversation about what happened and what it means for the relationship. This could lead to missed opportunities to address their problems before the misunderstandings grow out of control. It also impacts on their ability to dissolve the business partnership and look into the individual offers that keep presenting themselves to develop their careers.

I am loving the annoying and rude boss suddenly realising Sungok is a valuable employee she needs to treat better.

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Wow, those words. The lyricist really did a great job. Thanks for sharing the link.

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They write their own music!

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I guess we could say this is the 7-yr-dating-itch. A classic case of familiarity, taking one another for granted, not working out kinks, pride, mistrust. At least Seong Ok shows up with the b-day cake, but it's not much of a festive celebration for their poor uptight friend. Hyeon Seong looks worse for the wear. As for the communal vote that they can't break up (Seong Ok's ramyeon being the #1 reason), it's annoying but not unrealistic for friends to be nosy and surface involved. The drama ia dragging for me, and I'd like more reasons to care how things tuen out. I feel viewer investment in their story is lacking even though I wish I didn't feel that way. Am I missing something?

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I felt so sorry for the friend as neither was putting in any effort for their friend’s benefit I wondered why they went. She could have passed the cake on to someone else, or made a promise to take him out another time. They also could have done more to make sure Minhyeok got the message they were finishing their conversation before coming back in.

I agree it feels like it is not giving enough but I am not sure what the missing ‘something’ is. I do wonder if they had used a different release schedule if this would have worked better for this type of story. I watched Strangers again, The good bad mother and The cold intern all of which had bleak storylines and unlikeable characters but they all kept me invested in something in the story.
It sounds like you are ready to drop and the others have already, I understand.

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I actually rarely drop a drama! Looking at my long list, I dropped You Raise Me Up in 2021 (even though I simply adore Yoon Shi Yoon). I will stick it out, but maybe the slow pace and repeated scenes as they look back at when they were together now take up too much of the drama time. I mean (spoiler here) it seems like they will both end up at Winders through different leads. Will they come to appreciate one another again?

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I wondered if Winders would reveal the reason for the broken business deal. The hoobae seems to have a vested interest in getting Hyunsung to sign up with them.

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I thought I'd dropped after week two, but found myself watching last week's episode a mere 6 days late today on the States' "Bank Holiday Monday." 😆

I wonder where they're going with the secondary couple--that guy in the bookstore was quite good-looking ;)--and I hope it ends up cute and loving...not creepy and/or one-sided.

As for our main couple, meh and feh, a bit still in the water. I don't think she cheated on him physically, but she's clearly tussling with the fact that she's not mentally his--fine by me! He seems a bit of a flake. Here's hoping he can mature a bit too. Agreed, Reply, that they should seriously talk. But when have we really had that in a Kdrama? It's few and far between (not never, though)!

As for Uri O-bong (from Matchmakers, although I see he has another name here in this drama--Hyung-sub, I think you all keep saying 🤔😁), I don't think he has a chance, but it would be perhaps interesting to see that group of friends have more than one reason to have to renegotiate what they mean to one another. I could see that providing some real interest!!

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Oh, interesting point about the second couple potential triangle. I am concerned the body shaming joking by the potential girlfriend is not working for me as a grounds for mutual respect. I also am not loving a nursery teacher always drinking at the level of passing out yet claiming she doesn’t do it on the nights when she is working the next day.
I did love his backup plan re preparing evidence for the hangover food payment.

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I started to watch ep. 3 tonight and barely made it through that scene with the annoyingly hungover girl calling her male friend 'Pig' repeatedly, fat-shaming him, and talking about 'helping' him with his diet when there's no reason to believe he's on one or needs one. I may not make it much further. 🙁 Everything about this drama feels like it happened 10 years ago.

Also, I noticed that Viki says ep. 5 is not coming until January 26. I gather the show will move from Tuesdays to Fridays, still once a week. This disruption can't help its already cellar-dwelling ratings.

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@elinor thanks for sharing the info re the schedule. I have never heard of dramas moving their drop day. I wonder if they feel moving to the weekend slot will increase viewers or if it is a way to avoid the sports/events cancellations and they had to wait for another show to finish before they could move to a Friday.

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Oblong the time traveller🤣 Yes re the unrequited love and renegotiating friendships. However, the single life and committed relationship life is not working well in this group and that needs to be discussed.

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*Obong I can’t believe I missed the dreaded predictive text jumping in.

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Week 4, we are a quarter of the way through the season.
Foundations have been rocked will they withstand the much needed frank discussion.

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So it looks like they are going all out on the side characters and their love lives.

I am struggling to put my finger on the reaction of the woman who bumped into Shihoo because she presented as very shocked and it was hard to tell if she was uncomfortable, scared or maybe she had a one sided love for him in the past that was never shared and she didn’t get over?

So glad we saw what happened with Sungok at the motel that fatal night. I do wonder what she was going to say before Hyunsung jumped in and deflected the conversation. I am not impressed she is that drunk again as she is extremely vulnerable in that state.

I wonder if Winders is back on the cards now he knows there is nothing holding him back from proceeding as a sole trader.

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What was that Shihoo bumping into that woman? He asked her to call him for a drink sometime, too.

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I know I wasn’t sure if that was a polite ‘we must keep in touch’ comment that you both know is just a turn of phrase or if it was a genuine I am in a rush but now we have met let’s get something sorted. They must have had each other’s contact details to not need to exchange them in the moment.

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Lost my comments again, what is that all about?!

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So frustrating😒

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I feel like not very much happened because no one did very much. I don’t think Sungok was with Hyunmok in the hotel. I don’t have an ounce of respect for Hyunsung blurting out publicly that he cheated. Sure, he was avoiding having Sungok possibly say what he didn’t want to hear, but that admission among gathered friends was brutal. The lack of critical thinking on the part of Sungok and Hyunsung is maddening, and I wonder if she should just cut her losses and move on. At this point I’m not (re) shipping our main leads in my heart, although my head says that’s where things will end up. This drama is falling to a C- rating for me, and as my dad always said, Cs are scraping the bottom of the barrel because Ds and Fs get you kicked out!

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Love your dad’s rating system!

I agree that we are looking at a lot of work to bring this relationship into the healthy zone. I wonder if they will need some time to build their separate business entities have success and be independent of each other professionally as well as personally in order to be able to be honest about their feelings and what they want from each other.

I don’t know if they can have other relationships in between and then come back together or be single for a while. They are showing too many sharks circling Sungok and I am not sure what that is about.

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Week five a change of viewing slot to the weekend with new shows dropping and an already busy schedule 😱 this could be a big mistake for the ratings which were already embarrassingly low.

The foundations have been set so let’s see what they bring to the story this week.

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So after an extra long wait we realise, yet again, that previews are edited to give the audience the wrong impression. Well done to beanie who called it and said that it wasn’t Sungok in that passionate embrace.
So this week we had two one sided loves feeling broken hearted and more questions left unanswered.

Who filmed Sungok at the bar restaurant and sent it to Hyunsung?

What happened to turn the Shihoo who was a totally besotted one woman man into the playboy he is now? Why didn’t the friends greet his girlfriend properly the first time they met?

What was going on with Yejoo’s boyfriend did he just want to use her to kill time? What a horrible way to ghost someone.

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My responses to your hopefully-not-rhetorical questions!

The bar filming was on Hyung-sub/O-bong's social media, not sent directly to the ML...it was about the soccer more than the people.

The friends didn't greet Si-hu's noona properly because she was older--and they didn't understand who she could be.

Yes, IMO, hottie just wanted some motel action with someone I suspect he found a little desperate. I also got the impression that this a "known move" to do this and then "join up" from Min-hyeok's reaction.

Anyone else have thoughts here?

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I definitely wanted responses😊 so thanks for not leaving me hanging.

Hyungsub knew what he was doing filming that from a far and then leaving especially if he posted it on his social media where all the friend group would see it.

Yes Minhyeok’s laughing did present as if it was an inside joke but as a friend not very understanding. I guess that fits with how they do their friendship.

I still think the Noona blank was unusual in a K-drama as usually anyone older especially introduced would be greeted with at least a head bow. They seemed the type of group a girlfriend would be integrated in so if it was a serious relationship they would be meeting again.

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Episode 5 and, yet again, I find that I watched the whole thing beginning to end. I never want to click play, and then I always do, and I always watch every darn second.

I can list more easily the characters who do NOT grab me now, as most of them do--certainly most of the men. It's mainly the main couple that leaves me scratching my head. I had to finally break down and figure out who the ML was and why he'd been cast as the 'L.' Super Junior. Ah. Similarly not so taken with our blank-faced FL.

So, what exactly is Hyung-sub/O-bong doing? Let's get back to Eun-jung! Can she at least play soccer more? This noona romance with Si-hu is grrrreat. And, last but not least in the least, is uri Min-hyeok. People (rightly) will continue to complain about his nickname, but thing is, dude's working with it. Maybe as "chief teaser" of the group, he'll start to tone that down too. I don't even have an end game in mind.

You know what? In "conclusion," I sort of wish this were a weekender. I kinda want these relationships to go on and get more complicated and then backstabby and maybe throw in some twins separated at birth--oh, ok, not that, but it could just go on with no real conclusion for any of these folks, and that'd actually be OK with me. It could be, "Let's just see what happens to these folks for a bit, and then stop filming." You in at all, @reply1988 ?

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I think Eunjung was injured and trying to find a new identity without her passion being the main focus and that’s why she is drifting through relationships and life. I vaguely remember her talking about injury and we have seen her scar. She has been with the boys all this time and seen the relationship between the main couple from the start but still encouraged Sungok to be with someone else just to spice things up?

Now Sihu has become more experienced in bed and hardened up do you think he will try to return to his first love? Was his going to the bathroom his message it meant nothing/was an act of revenge even though his face indicated it affected him differently? They have both changed could they have a more equal adult relationship second time round? I wonder how she was coping with the coercive relationship with the thankfully now ex as it seemed she was aware of its impact on her and was a shell of her former self.

I think the 16 episodes are already the equivalent of a weekender as this story could have been a 2-4 parter. Have you seen Very ordinary couple with Lee Minki it’s a funny version of this kind of story.

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i can attest to being in a long-term relationship (almost 10 years) and having it fizzle out, for a number of reasons. this drama shows how some considerations cannot be addressed painlessly (his being considerate of her business partnership and not wanting to tell her the contract demands), how some stupid friends can drag you into situations that LOOK BAD even tho you weren't going to do anything, how easily it is to be swayed when you are feeling unappreciated (in this case, her - but wrongly so)... and yes, ultimately sometimes there is infidelity and it is not impossible to overcome, but most times isn't worth trying to. doesn't negate the relationship, it sometimes means it has run its course and its time to move on.

friends suffer and it becomes a "who gets the kids" sorta "divorce" -- it realistically portrays the awkward stages of a breakup.

i'm hoping they can work things out and decide to stay together. but along with it comes a lot of pain, sadness, but mainly growth. and if they cannot grow into their changing path (marriages continue to grow, btw), they should separate.

it's call real life. and sometimes it sucks and is sad.

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I think you make some good points about the reality of long term relationships after the credits roll on most other dramas. One of the biggest issues for these two is the lack of conversations throughout the later stages of their relationship that led to assumptions, misunderstandings and resentment on both sides.
I think the show made a good choice by showing us the friends relationship woes too as initially they presented as lacking awareness of the impact of their presence and the different expectations of single and attached people.

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Week six
This week brings confirmation that fake out shock endings are going to be a constant with this drama. In this the episode lines are drawn, friendships are tested and hard hitting wake up calls are delivered.

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Episode 7
Reminiscing, reflections and regrets lead to tears and new insights.

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ep 8
so tired of the stubborn insistence of the new guy's buttinskying. and why does she have to accommodate when she already said she was going to be busy... i'm going to tell my daughter that when you say "no" to an invitation, it means NO even if he shows up. this is what i call RUDE. why the courtesy???

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I was steaming when I saw this too especially as they made it look like she was going to be late or totally miss the meet up. I do think it’s another false alarm and I am confident for the sake of work and to avoid any messing up that day or in the future she is going to cal him out on disrespecting her because he was prioritising his feelings over hers.

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Episode 8 mid season in a break up drama what does this mean?

All the friends in the group have started to get resolution on their own love lives. Finally we see more of the story behind the only other female in the group. The serial one night stand man may finally feel ready to trust that real love does exist. Unrequited love man might wake up to a realistic solution if he friends dealt with these issues in an adult manner rather than teasing him all the time. The last member of the group’s fat shaming has toned right down so maybe this will remain the case once his story is back in the limelight.

Re the main couple now three months have passed and an embarrassing meet up stopped the tumbleweed rolling, they decide to have a proper sit down conversation. This of course is stretched into next week’s episode. I wonder if the purpose of the series is to focus on breaking up well and then have a brief hint of new relationships for the main couple in episode 16. The other option could be to show them drawing a line under the old relationship and all that made it fail so they can start again together with a healthy foundation but again only show that element in the last episode. I also wonder if they are commenting on the state of relationships generally through the various difficulties all the friendship group members have.

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Episode nine
This episode left me confused. Two single friends made some steps towards changing their status. Main couple somehow managed to take 60 steps backwards in their attempts towards a clean closure of this phase of their relationship.

If I hear a second lead whine ‘Can’t it be me?’ one more time, they will be able to hear my scream on the International Space Station.

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