Beanie level: Chaebol’s poor doppelganger

Just watched the first episode of Jirisan. Currently, the biggest mystery is how the director of this one is the same guy who directed Goblin, Mr Sunshine, and Secret Love.

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I like to think that the moment kdrama actors get confirmed for the main lead role they pack up, say goodbye to family and friends and move to a gym.

“Shower scenes -here I come” -they say.

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Lost is a torture porn which fully misunderstands No Longer Human and boils down all the character problems to the lack of money and power.

Spoilers below

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    Words can’t explain how much I hated that show, mainly because I had high expectations of it. Plus, watching the female lead was extremely frustrating.

    I am a huge Osamu Dazai fan and even if I know that No Longer Human was a inspiration for the show, I still feel that Lost is a huge insult to that work. In the book, money was the one thing main lead never lacked growing up. In fact, majority of his guilt and confusion streamed from the fact that he was the son of the affluent politician. Smart and good looking, with every opportunity at his feet – he was supposed to be happy, but wasn’t. That was what made his character so interesting.

    When you have financial problems, you work on a shitty job, you are looked down by the people around you and you see your old father dragging heavy cupboards at night because he can’t retire – you can’t be happy. Happiness is not a choice here and thus, your personality doesn’t make any difference in how alienated and lonely you feel. The show doesn’t give any room for character study because any person in the same situation would have felt the same way.

    – The writing is also kinda strange. First of all, why is the female lead so goddamn pathetic? I was understanding of her, but apperantly she could sue the person who hurt her? She also considers suicide by jumping from the roof of the BUILDING IN WHICH HER BELOVED DAD LIVES. Suicide is wrong and all, but making your dad see your corpse is just extra cruel?

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      She lost her child, so I guess she’s not really herself anymore.

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        That’s the thing. She lost her child and her life sucks. ANYONE in that situation would be depressed. I am angry that because the writer made the situation so terrible it doesn’t leave space for a character to exist.

        E.g you are dying from hunger and you eat bread because that is the only available food. What does you eating it say about you? Nothing really.

        But let’s there are dozens of sorts of food in front you and you chose bread. Your choice here says that you love the bread the most. Or you were in the mood for bread. Or maybe you just always start eating with one bite of bread. Either way, your personality here flashes at least to some degree.

        No Longer Human was a great book because of how complex the writing was for its main lead and his depression. Here the character is boiled down to the status of victim of circumstances.

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      That’s the whole point of the show. She is depressed. After having lost her child and her job, she lost her sense of purpose in life. She feels like a loser who disappointed her father.
      People who are depressed and choose to commit suicide are in no position to think about others or what mess their suicide would create or who they would hurt. They need help.

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    I think the creators said it wasn’t inspired by No longer Human but had a similar name. Not sure though. But atleast this show has made me curious for No longer human.

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      I get your point though, especially after reading the synopsis of No longer human (tho I’m not sure if the depression there didn’t stem from the assault) and I think for the drama they created these situations for a dramatic purpose. It’s sometimes hard to convey on screen if someone’s unhappiness stems from less dramatic reasons and kdramas do that a lot, adding layers of reasons. I feel jdramas on the other hand work on simpler themes and may have pulled that off.

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I admit, I smiled and waved back.

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I don’t even watch Penthouse, but the bizarre YouTube recommendations and unlimited hilarious comments sincerely make me hope that this show never ends.

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    My favourite joke to this date, probably seen on Dramabeans,

    “at this point , we will find out that murdered Park Seol A had a sister named Park Seol B”.

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The young workaholic man disappears without a trace. He doesn\’t even get a funeral. His girlfriend, whose only family member can\’t recognise her, sticks with him till the end and it will probably take her years to admit that he is dead.

Some sociopath writes that story and thinks \”yup, that\’s a rom-com\”.

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    What’s the drama?

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      Oh! Master

      No need to watch it. You don’t need that in life.

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        aiieeeee! That’s what happened? Oy 🤦🏼‍♀️

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    What horrified me the most was that Joo-in apparently learned to love and to “chart her own life” (or something) by having had Bi-soo, his angst and his mysterious condition inflicted on her.

    Gimme a break! Joo-in was living and loving her heart out way before Bi-soo entered her life. .

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      More you think about it it gets more tragic. She loves her mom who isn’t always “there” and now she loves and talks to the guy who is definitely not there.

      I also feel like Bi Soo’s life work will be ruined by his successor, who decided to give the show a second season.

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        It’s the two people she loves most that disappear on her that makes this story horrific. Will be actively avoiding this writer from now on.

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    Oh good I dropped it after 4 eps in

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    Can’t agree with you more. I could only think about the legal implications of someone just disappearing. And they labeled this as a romcom.
    I will never trust this writer again.

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Just watched the trailer for the king: eternal monarch.
I should say, I am deeply impressed by Lee Min Ho. This guy has been acting since 2006 and his acting is still so bad.

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Does anyone feel like A Piece of Your Mind is a sweet and quite episode of Black Mirror?

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    The guy makes a computer which talks like his first love. She even knows the same things as original.
    His dead love didn’t agree on that. If it wasn’t for the directing and dreamy Jung Hae In this show could be in genre horror.

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      When Ji Soo the AI started talking like real Ji Soo my freak-o-meter just went bust.

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        The show is so creepy when you
        actually think about it. I can’t even imagine what would happen to the recently widowed husband when he finds out about this AI.

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    I haven’t watched this week’s episodes, but I can only say that only APOYM wished to come close to Black Mirror.
    I only hope this week’s episodes can mend last week.

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Rewatched poem a day. Surprisingly, the show was a lot more enjoyable now that I knew the ending.
Best thing about the show: main leads start dating and that’s it. They don’t find out about weird childhood connection, their parents don’t randomly jump in their relationships. They have their own share of problems (him feeling the relationships are too uncomfortable, and her considering herself less than her capable boyfriend), but they talk about it like adults and don’t act as if it is the end of the world. Here are the photos of them just going on dates.

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    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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    “Surprisingly, the show was a lot more enjoyable now that I knew the ending.”

    That is exactly why I enjoy rewatching my favorite shows.

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    I loved this about the series. The thing I hated was that he had literally no personality the entire series. Like, he was an amalgamation of quirks and that was it. This was why I was not really into either ship and basically was just happy that Bo-young was happy in the end, and that she got everything she deserved.

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      He had personality! I noticed that more clearly after second rewatch. He was a socially awkward introvert. Also, very understanding, fair and sensitive. I watched the show in two days so I had more opportunities to connect his actions in one episode to what he said/what we were shown in a different one. Compared to 95% of kdrama leads, he actually acted like an adult, so I get why his personality wasn’t that memorable.

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        I would probably have to agree to disagree. I think he had some personality traits – and I think they tried to give him a personality after they made him the endgame, but it wasn’t really enough. He had a lot of definable traits like you mentioned: introvert, sensitive, awkward. None of those things is a personality – they’re traits. There was nothing about the character that you could say gave him that extra dimension. What made him leap from a paper definition of who he was to being a fully realized person. We as viewers don’t know what he likes, what he’s passionate about, what makes him tick, what makes him happy outside the cues that the story gave us. He had his quirks, but he wasn’t fully developed. And that’s because he was never written as the lead but they switched things up later on. I think this is a problem we see more with female characters – they are often there only to move the story forward at convenient times (“pot plants”).

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    Yeah I liked it too.

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    I started to enjoy APAD about 5 episodes in. That was after the appearance of LJH (1984). The early episodes were rough the way the characters were introduced so negatively. (I am convinced that that really hurt APAD in the ratings ) Although I am a LJH fan I was not a Ye liner but jumped on the MinHo-Young ship.
    I personally thought a Min-ho Bo-young relationship made sense. I basically agree with @Snarkjellyfish’s analysis.

    However, if you recall, in the spring of 2018, the cherry blossoms were outstanding in SK. APAD had an outdoor scene with Dr. Ye and Bo-young in a park with a humongous Cherry Tree framed in the scene. It was outstanding cinematography.
    (CAHM also has some beautifully incorporated cherry trees into the drama.)

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Surprisingly, I am enjoying Forest (Park Hae Jin/Jo Boa\’s drama). Directing is weak, writer is obviously inexperienced, but the show actually has creativity and heart.

Here is an example:
Female lead gets fired. Later that day, she goes to her dad and while eating his cooking, she starts crying. She says that she must be dumb and that her parents hardwork to rise her as a successful person was wasted on her. Her dad calms her, tells her he is still proud of her and holds her when she is crying.

This scene seemed the most raw and honest to me. Sometimes the biggest fear we have is to be a disappointment for someone who puts their trust in us.

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    I was beginning to think I was the only one enjoying Forest.

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      Rather than a douchebag, main lead is pragmatic and polite. We actually see him work (and I love that he goes to crazy lengths to do a good job).
      Female lead is kind, but that’s not her only personality. She is also a careerist.
      Main leads don’t hate each other.
      This show has it’s flaws but you can feel that writer actually tried to do her job and not copy-paste all used romantic tropes.

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You really are!

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My Country: Jang Hyuk is great! The younger cast does a good job, but when it is Jang Hyuk\’s scenes everything before his appearance looks like a child play.
He is charismatic and steals the spotlight! Every time I see him I actually feel that Bang Won is the king material. I will follow the guy, I\’ll bet on him any day! That\’s how convincing he is (RIP his poor little brother, the boy doesn\’t stand a chance)

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    He started as an idol in a group long time ago. So even idols turned actors can work.

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      Jang Hyuk? He was never an idol. He did do a rap album once he became an actor but that’s it.

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        Comment was deleted

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        I didn’t know until I’ve watched I Live Alone episode where a friend of Si-eon was imitating Jang Hyuk and they were talking about it.

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Everyone should see Pegasus Market. It has the Emperor, Oompa Loompas, Sunflowers, heavy metal, Yeo Jin Goo and most importantly Abdul Hasan.

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I just love this weirdo.
That’s all I wanted to say. #beMelodramatic

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    It was hella funny because I made the same expressions as Eun Jung in these scenes. This drama is indeed full of weirdos =)))

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      Literally everyone is weird in……some way.
      His dramatic pauses crack me up and I actually get why Eun Jung might open up to someone like him. Similiar to the actress he seems to have little to no filter.

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    Sharing the love via Naver: https://blog.naver.com/heewonning/221655827260.

    I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve rewatched their scenes. Is Son Seok Koo’s character’s name Kim Sang Soo? AsianWiki lists it as “Sang Soo” and the man at the orphanage called him “Chairman Kim.” I’m just gonna call him NIceAndWarm.

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      I call him Director Yell. And Son Seok Koo is SO likeble. I have yet to see a drama where I don’t care about his character.

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Me- Hey, you definitely have to check out this new drama, it\’s great!
Friend-Really? Tell me about it.
Me-Well, there is this guy who is stalking female lead. That\’s how everything starts.
Friend- oh, geez, poor girl
Me-not exactly, she probably killed his brother.
Friend- So the main guy is taking revenge? The whole show is about it?
Me- Not exactly, they fall in love.
Friend-…
Me-….you would love it. Really.

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    I hope it’s NOT about Hotel de Luna……………………………………

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      It’s about I Want to Hear your Song. This show is a wreck and I have zero idea why I enjoy it so much.
      Actually, thinking back to it, Man Wol was a stalking Chang Sung, right?

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        I have not watched Hotel de Luna (saving it for later marathon), I was afraid you spoiled it for me. Thank goodness. :)) So no idea how to reply to your question!
        Btw, do you recommend IWTHYS? The story seems dark???

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          It is surprisingly not that dark. Or depressing. It is more of a rom-com with a murder mystery backstory. Majority of times you would wonder what you are supposed to feel about…any relationship or character in this show. It is one of those dramas you love, but logically can’t explain why.

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          If you dont want to be spoiled the fan wall is a very dangerous place to be, lol.

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            I can’t help it… the craving to check if anyone also watches the drama(s) I’m following and what everybody is talking about… The moment I started watching K-drama again, I immediately thinking of lurking Dramabeans… :)))

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        i had no interested in IWHYS until i read this thread–now im super intrigued!! thank you <3

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WWW: Such a great show. Everything was great about it except main loveline. I have zero idea why main leads missed each other that much at the end. They dated for 1 month and 90% of it they were fighting/on the verge of breakup

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    Hahaha
    Time works differently in drama. Usually a couple going through all ups and down in just a season 😄

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Ep 10 of Legends of Alhambra is depressing. Each episode is depressing. I think writer wants to make Jin Woo the most pitiful dramaland character ever.

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About Beauty Inside: I am just so mad at the creators. It feels like they missed the whole point of the movie. Getting loved no matter how you look was all this show was about, even not giving \”real\” face to main character was a point, because you shouldn\’t expect your loved one to go from beast to prince. In this case, they used such a great premise as a plot device and made main character work in a lookism oriented workplace.

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    I absolutely loved everything about the movie and to turn to show into a romantic comedy, yeah, not feeling it.

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      I am so sad for the premise. It is especially unsettling that main lead has face blindness. I mean…. writers seriously thought no healthy person would survive a week with their loved one who has different face?

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        And what was so important about the film was the love interest and the emotional issues she had that lead to physical problems for her. She was so in love she was making herself sick and really didn’t know what to do about it.

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    Preach. Only 2 episodes and it feel like they dropped the ball with this.

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Did main lead just stopped his children from getting born so that he would get the new shiny wife and freedom to play PSP?

#Familiar Wife #Main lead seems to have forgotten he has kids?

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Young-Hoon needs a pay-rise. No matter how much he is getting now, he deserves more for the craziness he has to go through

#AYHT

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