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Doctor Slump: Episodes 11-12

Late-night talks, secret stairwell dates, and forehead kisses abound this week as our couple finally start going out in earnest this time. However, as they enjoy this moment of happiness, misfortune appears just around the corner. Though our leads try to avert their gaze, their doubts turn into convictions, and they learn that nothing in life is guaranteed.

 
EPISODES 11-12

Doctor Slump: Episodes 11-12

I fear the dreaded third act slump has descended upon this show, and a part of me wants to run for the hills lest any goodwill these characters have fostered turns into spoiled milk. Though I’ve seen this pattern one too many times, maybe, just maybe, my gut feelings are desperately wrong.

Before I get to the hair-wrenching part of the episodes, let’s start with the good (i.e., Ha-neul and Jung-woo’s romance). Our lovebirds enjoy the butterflies of a new relationship and all the perks that come with it from changing each other’s contact name to talking on the phone all night. Ha-neul even sleeps over at Jung-woo’s place but only to enjoy a snack — completely chaste, of course.

They decide to keep their relationship a secret at work since Ha-neul’s employment may be temporary. As for her family, Ha-neul is open to telling them until Mom stumbles upon Jung-woo in bed with her, but since her face was hidden, she pretends that nothing happened. Thankfully, Mom is no fool (or prude for that matter). She finds her daughter’s insistence on lying a silly over-complication since she already approves of their relationship — heck, she even shipped them before they recognized their feelings for each other! Thus, she invites Jung-woo to her birthday party, and their charade ends as soon as it began.

Doctor Slump: Episodes 11-12

At work, their relationship remains a secret, but I doubt this will last long either from the way our jealous leads act. While a couple of misunderstandings (fawning coworkers, a last egg roll, and bus mishaps) do cause their first fight, this blows over quickly after one open conversation, and our couple returns to the merriment of sneaky around together for some alone time.

As Jung-woo grows closer to Ha-neul’s family — even experiencing a drinking session with her uncle and brother without her — he shares a little about his own family, too. Unlike hers, his cardiologist parents only cared about themselves, so he learned from an early age that he could never earn their love and looked for it elsewhere. Before Ha-neul came along, his only confidante was Kyung-min, but even before their recent falling out, Jung-woo admits that he always felt something off about him.

He reveals to Ha-neul that he nearly died the night he passed the medical exam and vaguely remembers Kyung-min drugging his drink. At the time, he questioned his memory, but even now, Jung-woo would rather bury the incident than dig up past wounds. He tells Ha-neul that he’s happy, so she drops the subject in hopes that their current bliss stays intact.

With their first paychecks, Ha-neul gifts Jung-woo a rare book on the history of plastic surgery as well as a cute surgical cap, and Jung-woo treats her to her first field trip, complete with shopping, kimbap, and a museum tour. He also planned a photo shoot, and the two of them rent uniforms to recreate pictures of the trips she never got to have. While high school Jung-woo would have balked at the idea of dating Ha-neul, the present-day version wishes for nothing more.

Since every field trip needs friends, Jung-woo invited Hong-ran to join them, and she brings Dae-young along — the two of them having gotten closer recently after helping each other out with parenting. As they grill meat, the discussion turns to friendships, and Hong-ran tells the group that she approached Ha-neul first because she admired her independence. They ask the boys about their story, and after some hesitation, Dae-young launches into a flashback.

The year was 2013, and Dae-young recalls Jung-woo as his friend, junior, and hyung (in spirit, not age). He credits Jung-woo’s support for his current success, and their backstory becomes a backdrop for PPL scenes. Alas, their relationship crumbled when Dae-young fell down the stairs — a combination of a misplaced bag and an ill-timed clap on the back — and their lives switched. Jung-woo went on a volunteer trip in Dae-young’s stead, which shot him to stardom, and one petty argument later, the two friends got into a pillow fight in the middle of the office.

Reflecting on their broken friendship, Dae-young holds himself accountable for what happened and finally tells Jung-woo that he was filing for divorce at the time and felt jealous of his career. They both apologize for holding onto hurt feelings for so long, and their conversation turns to a different topic: Kyung-min. Dae-young asks if Kyung-min does drugs since he saw him with powdered medicine before, but Jung-woo thinks he is clean, though this revelation does fill in some blanks regarding his near-death experience.

As the leads dig deeper into their duplicitous ex-mentor, we learn that Jung-woo’s former anesthesiologist is blackmailing Kyung-min about a seventh hidden camera he planted. Meanwhile, Ha-neul does some sleuthing on her own and discovers that his in-law’s pharmaceutical company has ties to Macau — the same place Jung-woo’s victim resided — and may be involved in a scheme to manipulate stock prices. Cementing her suspicions, Ha-neul remembers seeing the VP of the company at Jung-woo’s trial and sees CCTV footage of Kyung-min stalking Jung-woo the night he moved into the rooftop.

All clues point towards something nefarious, so Ha-neul confronts Kyung-min. Though she wants to speak to him in public, given the sensitive nature of their discussion, she agrees to talk privately in his car. She calls him out on his shoddy dissertation and lays out all her findings, ending with the crux of their confrontation: is he involved in Jung-woo’s medical accident? Kyung-min turns to her, eyes wide in fear, and in his distraction, he veers towards oncoming traffic. Though he swerves the car away in time, the moment they both let their guards down, another truck crashes into them.

Doctor Slump: Episodes 11-12

I wasn’t expecting the Truck of Doom to make its appearance, and I, for one, am disappointed. It feels like a plot device to manufacture external tension when the show should instead be spending more time exploring the characters’ internal conflicts and motivations. After the way the show dealt with Jung-woo’s case in Episode 7, I hoped that the focus would be on the inner struggles of the leads. While it was obvious that the case wasn’t over from a narrative standpoint, I was impressed with how the writer subverted expectations by showing the toil it had on Jung-woo rather than highlight his triumph. There’s a chance the writer could also be using this traffic accident trope to turn it on its head, but at this point in the story, some of the more consistent failings make me question the future direction of the show.

As many have pointed out, the show isn’t anywhere near perfect. There’s a lot of questionable medical choices, conveniently overheard conversations, and a clear lack of awareness on the show’s part concerning some problematic cultural trends, particularly in regards to the excessive drinking. When the characters are constantly getting drunk — not just enjoying a glass of wine but chugging champagne to the point of blackouts — it calls for an intervention not another drinking scene. I’m also not looking forward to Kyung-min’s story. There are elements that could make him a fascinating antagonist and a wonderful foil to the main characters, but so far, he feels one-dimensional and boring. He comes across as a greedy man who uses others for his own gain, and I’m assuming he has always harbored some sort of jealousy with a dash of inferiority complex towards the more well-off and intelligent Jung-woo and Ha-neuls of this world.

With that being said, I’m still enjoying the show because the reason I tune in every week is for Ha-neul and Jung-woo. The show has a chill vibe that feels like comfort food, and I think this week contained a lot of adorable moments between the main couple. It was cute to watch them get excited about their new relationship, and I love how they both match each other’s jubilant energy. The petty jealousy at the beginning was a bit over-the-top since Ha-neul was the one who established those rules in the first place, but as usual, the show dealt with it quickly by making the characters talk to each other. It just proves that most conflicts can be resolved through honest conversations, and thankfully, our leads are learning how to communicate and be open with each other.

My favorite moments of our leads were the way they used their first paychecks to buy the other person gifts. Ha-neul’s book and scrub cap were funny but also thoughtful because it reflects her practical side alongside her nerdy one. It’s only made better by Jung-woo’s reaction because he teases her for being overly studious but humors her every time because seeing her happy makes him happy. Jung-woo’s gift was also reflective of his character and how he continuously tries to give Ha-neul experiences through acts of service. It wasn’t about the monetary value of his present but the small details from packing kimbap (a field trip staple) to staying up with friends.

In a way, these two episodes were the calm before the storm, and while the impending issue may be related to Kyung-min, I do think the bigger message is about willful ignorance and neglecting one’s health (not just physical but also emotional). Because the characters were so happy, they essentially buried their heads in the sand, hoping that their issues would magically disappear. However, as we saw at the end of Episode 12, the problem that Kyung-min poses won’t simply go away if ignored, so for our characters to truly heal, they also need to face the underlying problem. It’s easy to get caught up in the moment and think everything is fixed, but happiness takes time and work. While love is great, in some cases, it can even make things more complicated. However, if Ha-neul and Jung-woo continue building their relationship on trust and communication, I want to believe that they’ll be able to help each other get better rather than tear each other down.

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Why are the leads childish and cringy? They act like toddlers in a "professional" setting lol. The romance isnt good too.

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I agree. It was pure cringe to me and not romantic at all. I felt embarrassed for the actors having to behave that way. Having professional people acting like middle schoolers is not a good look.

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I was really disappointed with the amount of aegyo from PHS. In the first episodes, it was funny and cute, but in these episodes there was just too much, and it was cringy. He's a grown man, a doctor, a person who has had a lot of trauma in his life from his parents and the recent Macau case, and it would be nice to see him relate to Ha-neul as a fellow adult, not a high school sweetheart.

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They really should have limited it to the High school portions, or had it only in some instances when he was relaxed or drunk. 10 min of 2 doctors talking to each other like high school kids was really super cringe.
They should have gone for shy/awkward dating rather than this.

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I think the commenters here are forgetting especially in the case of Haneul, That they don't exact have a ton of experience or practice in being functioning adults in *any* relationships let alone romantic ones. Junwoo doesn't have his parents as an example to model. (They didn't seem the loving type) and Haneul, brain just didn't work that way. In terms of love and relationship., they are in High School.

You see this in the real world all the time with individuals especially celebrities that have had to focus on career that their private life is a mess because they don't learn how to have actually navigate one as a functioning adult.

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Thank you for expressing my own thoughts so well. Both of these people are growth stunted when it comes to dating: Our FL because she was forced to concentrate on her studies to the exclusion of all else and our ML because of his parents emotionally frigid relationship with him. The adolescent behavior makes total sense to me once you understand that context. In a sense it is just one more aspect of the failure to take care of themselves and their need to heal which includes dealing with their stunted growth in this area.

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@fluffydeath @oldawyer Thank you for expressing this so well. I have always held that the reason these two connected in tehe first place is because they connected to their high school self and picked the threads from there, almost rebuilding their lives with each other from that point on. All teh cutesy stuff they kept doing, the ongoing awkwardness, everything is a part of who they have been. The fact they eventually settle down into a mundane, routine life is the triumph of a life well recovered.

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Han-eul and Jeong-woo are fantastic, wonderful, amazing (will now refrain from loading this sentence up with excessive love-sick adjectives to spare your eyes) 😍 I love their over the top aegyo because it doesn't feel like it's coming from a place of immaturity, it's just two adults indulging themselves in a bit of ridiculous fun and I love that!

The jury is still out on the other parts of the plot development this week though. The fact that I thought they were going to take this down the route of Kyung-min actually being a serial killer says something about the state of the rom-com genre in Kdramaland - and because I was expecting that, the ToD didn't really phase me at the time. In hindsight however, I am rolling my eyes a tad and going really writers??? . For better or for worse they've handled the leads' character development and relationship a little too well - it's been so tightly written that we've kind of whizzed through all the usual points of angst and turmoil. So, I suppose, it means the plot now needs to come up with random shit to bring in the big third act punch.

So I'm going to take on your interpretation here too lovepark about this part of the narrative arc being a reflection of the larger theme of healing and the need to fix underlying issues instead of burying one's head in the sand or expecting quick, overnight fixes. As always, I'd much rather the angst or conflict come from external sources than internally within the main couple, so I'm prepared to deal with another ten ToD's next week if we must, because both Han-eul and Jeong-woo (and by extension, the lovely PSH and PHS) make it a worthwhile endeavour.

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I am hopeful that this may actually also help show some character growth. Last time when JW had his medical accident and crashed and burned he had no one around to support him and he was so lost and lonely. He isn't in that state anymore. He has HN's family, DY and even HR probably. He also knows there are people that believed him all along like his old teacher. So I am hoping the writer uses this to show his character growth. Yes he will be devastated and upset about her accident and may even blame himself again for the bad things that happen in his life (her getting in the accident because she met KM because of her suspicions of what he did to JW), but maybe this time he will be able to see more clearly faster. Also it may help him realize that he can't always bury thing away/ignore them (like his initial suspicion of KM) or in the past whenever he was sad or upset with his fake smile.

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Yeah absolutely on the same page as you - hopefully this showcases his growth and the strength of is wider support circle.

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Sorry, not sorry to interrupt all this high-brow 'critique' with a very low-brow observation :) -

I am so happy that our FL actress Park Shin-hye got a decent on-screen kiss (more related to previous 2 eps).

I'm still traumatised by the kiss I watched with her in 'Doctors' where Kim Rae-won's ML (who liked her since he was her teacher at school, so already creepy) literally appeared to be eating her face when he kissed her. The poor woman did not look like she was having to fake 'not enjoying it' for modesty's sake. It was gross.

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omg no hahahaha not 'low brow' at all, I was squealing over the not-dead-eyed kiss too!!! FINALLY!! I haven't seen Doctors...and after that description, not sure if I want to hahaha

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Doctors kisses were just fine tbh. (Except their first which was really badly done).

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I too loved the kiss and hope that we get another either when she dramatically wakes from her coma and or when things finally resolve and they get their happily ever after.

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Our gal tend to look like a deer caught in headlights whenever she kisses someone. I had the same reaction when I saw their kiss scene... finally!!! (Okay, Pinocchio kiss was good too, but that was eons of years ago!) Also, when I read your comment...I just had to log-in to comment and give you a thousand thumbs up! LOL

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And by the looks of it a wide swathe of audience lapped it up too, seeing how it raced to no#3 worldwide and number 1 in many countries.
I remember when I first started watching, I found this ayeigo cringe too. Now I am beginning to understand there is a method to the madness. It's deliberate. It does not always suit everyone, but I have no complaints here. I mean, I would not miss that MBTI scene or that rolled omelette fight scene for anything. That was so uproariously funny. I have seldom seen a couple fight so adorably. And then they cut to having serious adult discussions about life, childhood, divorce....why do people not see that as well?

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I'm going to take on your interpretation here too lovepark about this part of the narrative arc being a reflection of the larger theme of healing and the need to fix underlying issues instead of burying one's head in the sand or expecting quick, overnight fixes.

I would take a 100 TOD s too over guns and another breakup. I don't see how this drama could have done well without:
1) Resolving Kyung Min's arc: He was shady episode 1 and there are so many questions unanswered. I don't like that kind of loopholes,and I can't believe I am the only one.
2) The dealing and overcoming with Ha-nuel's emotional problems has been gradual, but Jeong Woo's has been superficial. That man has trained himself to function at all costs, and a minimum of support makes him keep walking. Another crack, and he will be done. Now he has true support of kind people and a reason to keep going. And face his demons head on.
3) How many of us were like - the whole gangster plot and that's it? I for one thought that. I wasn't too affected, but I can imagine it took out a large chunk of audience off the flow.

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@hacja argued last week that the writers were having our Lead Couple "grow up in their relationship together," beginning as children (fighting them off on the street anyway), moving to their young teens (studying together) and then older teens (going to arcades), and then to their young adulthood (clubbing). He anticipated that their move to full-blown adulthood would be marked by a "dinner date at a fancy restaurant."

I was convinced, and expected as much this week. However (하지만!), I don't really think it came to pass, unless a drunken lunch with your future MIL counts (...does it?).

No, instead, I feel that we now truly know that what the transition to an adult relationship DOES seem to entail for this production team: An Encounter with a Truck of Doom. Two, even.

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Was I ever wrong! In these episodes, the process of recovery from depression and being in love involved a regression to the age of 8 or 9, going on a "field trip" and buying school uniforms. They even had their two friends as chaperones!

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Well, the ToD "saved" the day and brought everyone right back down to earth, where they will now be very, very sad...facing their fate quite directly.

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This week is where I leave this show. This show has always been mixed for me—the parts of the show I thought it did well and touched me were the parts when the leads had been stripped away from the what had driven them and defined them before—being the best student and successful doctors/researchers—and realizing that that life didn’t make them whole or fundatmentally happy as people. Watching the quieter scenes between the two as they saw and valued the core of one another without the external measures of success was lovely. Both PHS and PSH were excellent in these moments. What I didn’t like was the frantic flashbacks to their high school days, the drunken antics (primarily because I thought drunk acting on this show was horrible—compare JCW’s drunk scene in Lovestruck in the CIty), the bad medical practicies of all the doctors in the show (isn’t the psychiatrist even more suss after Episode 12?), and the murder/mystery makjang.

This week, the sweet couple tipped over to saccarine. Instead of genuine moments, the aegyo made me cringe because it felt that it was playing to the audience instead of being true affection directed towards each other. (I also diagree about Ha Neul’s gift giving style being sweet. She’s the type of gift giver who gives what she likes as gifts instead of actually observing and giving what the receiver likes. But I nitpick.). Actually, the whole show tipped over into knowingly playing it up for the audienve. It had turned into revue show without musical parody numbers (although maybe that would have been better.), where it turned the volume up to 11 and just hammed it up. That’s when it lost me. It felt like the difference between when a toddler does something cute and it is genuinely adorable and when the toddler realizes what s/he did was cute and does it again knowingly—“Look, Ma, see how cute I can be!”

As the trucks of doom, they crash coursed into me and broke me for this show. I will exit while I still have some affection for the excellent moments the show gave me. Fare thee well, and I hope you may have a speedy (or at least within 4 epsidoes) recovery.

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Thanks for saying everything I've been thinking, better than I would have - and big thanks to @lovepark for the recap that confirms it's over for me. I did like some of the more thoughtful moments from PHS and PSH, individually and together, but not much else. (I guess it's supposed to be humorous that she's as bad at choosing gifts as she is at planning dates, but both scenes fell flat because she's not nearly that clueless or self-absorbed in other contexts.) After last week's episodes I've been reluctant to start episode 11 and now I know there's no reason to. I hope for the sake of those who continue that it regains its footing.

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I got around halfway through ep 11 and was easily distracted away by something else never to return. I'm not interested in what story there is, I've seen enough of their relationship to leave them to it now, so I'm moving on. Thanks for the few laughs I did enjoy

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I couldn't continue past the first 15 min of Ep 11. This is too much adult aegyo to handle. I am out.
Thanks for the recap, I got an idea of what happened these two episodes. I am shocked that Jung-Woo was drugged by Kyung-Min and yet he remains friends with him??????
And a ToD??

I wish Yoon Park's character was written better.

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He was very drunk when he saw KM putting something in his drink and wasn't sure he saw it right and thought it might have been a dream or illusion. When he was hospitalized (so KM took him to the hospital) he overhead the doctors talking that his blood alcohol level was high and they found traces of Ambien in his blood. The doctor says he had hear that JW was taking medication for insomnia and the professor says he shouldn't have had so much alcohol. At that time he was just a high school graduate and he appeared not to have known exactly what medication he was taking for his insomnia and even later it seems when he learned about the drug he wasn't sure if that trace found was because Ambien was what he was prescribed. At the hospital KM acted very remorseful about giving JW too much alcohol and according to JW acted like the totally supportive older brother role he had played before during and after (except that time he said he was disappointed at him for liking HN). JW also said that if there was even a sliver of a hope that KM hadn't done it, he wanted to hold onto it because his parents had abandoned him (never really loved him) and he had no one else who truly acted like they cared about him in his mind. I hope that gives more detail than the recap and explains his rationale.

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Hyperbole is a major part of these shows but the adult aegyo made me want to gag. If I have a criticism of PHS in his romcom roles, his aegyo in cringe inducing. He was like this in Strong Girl Bong Soon. It goes from 0 to 100 in like 2 sec.

I was looking forward to this recap because the entire kyung-min thing had me totally confused. What's with the other PSH's boss that came back into the picture and the old anesthesiologist?

BTW, I saw this comment in reddit and had me laughing... "No one is able to outsmart Truck-nim because if that happens his older brother Truck-hyung will come and he will definitely hit everyone."

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"No one is able to outsmart Truck-nim because if that happens his older brother Truck-hyung will come and he will definitely hit everyone."

THATS A GOOD ONE

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I did think their conversation on the rooftop and their actual fieldtrip (when they were walking around the museum and taking pictures) they acted like regular adults on dates. They even had a deep serious conversation that JW didn't want to go opening cans of worms and just wanted to enjoy the peace they have now.

I think they act cute mostly when they are alone or think they are alone and we as the audience are just privileged (or cursed for you and others who hate it) to see it in action. I think in real life some couples are just more cutesy with each other. We all know couples like that which make us cringe slightly if we catch them doing something like snuggling on a couch in public (or even secretly stealing a quick peck). I think that's just natural for some but can be awkward for those not like that.

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This is what I thought too! There's moments where they revert back to being 'adult' on their dates - case and point this week, the opening sequence of ep 11 which is heavy on the aegyo compared to their more serious talk in the bar at the very end of the same episode. They're very much capable of being 'adult' when needed and having serious discussions. So same as you, in my eyes, the cutesy stuff is very much a private thing that we're privy to, and it isn't everyones cup of tea which is fair, but I do think they're just that cringey cutesy expressive couple everyone knows of. It kind of reminds me instances in the past where I've slipped into disgustingly baby-voice cringe with a partner because I've forgotten we're in public, which then meant being caught out by friends giving us the 'wth' side eye - very embarrassing 😆.

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It kind of reminds me instances in the past where I've slipped into disgustingly baby-voice cringe with a partner because I've forgotten we're in public, which then meant being caught out by friends giving us the 'wth' side eye - very embarrassing

hahaha!! Been there done that lol!

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These last two episodes were nearly unwatchable for me. I'll leave the male lead alone, since obviously there are women viewers who love to watch a good looking man constantly making cute faces and talking in baby voice, having pillow fights in medical offices and taking "field trips" in school uniform. That is a matter of personal taste, I know, so I'm not going to criticize that.

However, I can say without fear of contradiction that the writer clearly thinks the heights of hilarity and meaningful emotion are cute falling down drunk scenes, because she has to include two of them every episode. Let me stress, I have no moral objection to the humorous depiction of drunkenness in kdramas or in this show in particular, even if it is not really that appropriate for a show that nominally is about recovery from depression. I just don't find it particularly cute or funny, nor that healing.

I'll tell you what I did find healing, though: the reappearance of the truck of doom, who earlier had just given our heroine a scare. Finally, a mature and well-developed character, one with clear motives that fit the plot perfectly!

So I'll give the show some credit for its use of the truck of doom. Maybe if it comes back one more time, in the final episode, knocking down each of the characters one by one--not harming them of course, just scaring them in a way that they would be required to soothe their temporary trauma by spending the night drinking heavily, the show could end with all the characters cutely staggering down the street, shouting the Korean equivalent of "I wuv you!" to each other. Then the shows message, that recovery from a slump requires discovering your inner toddler and getting incoherently drunk will be satisfactorily delivered.

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Even though I don’t agree with this I’m rolling with laughtera t the last image LOL!!.

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@minniegupta1 I know we differ on this show, but I hope you also know that

1. Most of the time in these comments I'm trying to make a joke about something that bothered me--not trying to put forward a serious "interpretation," because if the show really offended me, I'd just drop it. I am well aware these are not documentaries, but entertainment!

2. But above all, if I joke about something in this show or any other show that you find effective or meaningful, its not at all that I'm saying "you are wrong MY opinion is right " because tastes and judgments legitimately differ--what each of us gets out of the show (or doesn't get out of it) is personal, though I do think we are all watching these mainly for enjoyment, so disagreements should never be taken too personally, or seriously.

Its true, that sometimes my enjoyment comes from making sarcastic and/or silly comments about aspects of the show I don't like, but I can't help myself!

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Of course! If we were always to agree it would be so boring! Difference of opinion makes everything so much more interesting.I have loved shows that many do not like and disliked popular ones and its.ok I love your humorous posts. This was really funny. Keep them coming. Last time I didn't comment but I think it was you who said it if I ever have depression I will hire someone who looks like PHs and have him jump around like monkey - it cracked me up lol!

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The Truck of Doom scene was shot poorly, and the timing was way off. Unless the driver was asleep at the wheel, there is no way he couldn't stop in time.

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Perhaps he was an exasperated viewer and did it on purpose.

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The drunk scenes were not funny, they have never been funny and this is a classic example of writers and directors taking something too far and running it into the ground until the viewer is sick of it.

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Seriously fed up with the drinking here. Gotta love 2 medical professionals who get drunk every night when taking anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants while being outraged at someone giving one of them Ambien with alcohol because it is dangerous. You don't say! Such a missed opportunity to treat this a bit responsibly in a society that sorely needs it.

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ML does not seem to be too great at putting 2 & 2 together. I mean, seeing it with his own eyes and having it confirmed at the hospital he still had his doubts.

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Yeah, the Ambien talk was so tone deaf, considering they had been taking their medication with alcohol this whole time. I was yelling at the screen, you don't f#$^ing say? Very annoying.

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the show dealt with it quickly by making the characters talk to each other. ⁉️
That rarely happens in a K drama 😉

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I was really disappointed that the otherwise-brilliant Ha-neul decided to confront Kyung-min on her own. This decision just does not fit her character, and the way the scene unfolded also made no sense. Why would she choose to meet a dangerous person alone? When Kyung-min has always lied, what did she expect to accomplish? He would reveal the truth to her? And let her live? When she knows he nearly killed Jung-woo for no particular reason? And she set their rendezvous for a busy one-lane street, where he wouldn't be able to stop the car without her getting in? And her determination to meet him in a safe public place lasted 30 seconds? It's just all stupid, and a too-easy plot device to get one of them killed and the other near death. Or both near death. Why didn't she go back and reveal all her findings to the cop who saw the CCTV image of Kyung-min near their house? (shaking head). Just too stupid.

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Maybe we find out later in a flashback she did tell the police and was wearing a wire, so she had to get in the car to get him to talk in order to obtain the necessary evidence. I am just giving writernim the benefit of the doubt. I hope my trust in her is not wasted.

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Exactly this. Made no sense at all for her to get in the car - he's done such damage to her and (she believes/suspects) JW that I cannot imagine any way in which she would put herself under his power like that. Highly stupid, and as you point out, not in character.

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I feel you about how stupid the set up was for her to get into his car and not telling anyone what she was doing. There was no reason for her to confront that guy on her own at that time in the first place. Knowing he was dangerous. There existed no rush or urgency for her to do that right then. Even if the police had been of no help, she could have talked to her friends and confronted him along with them. I'm not too fond of it when they have female leads do stupid things without a plan, even though they have the support of people who could put the plan into action.

I would have preferred to see a setup written where she worked with her friends to set a trap for the guy. I think that would have been much more interesting than the rather lazy way the writers handled this.

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And why would she confront someone while they're driving? She whipped out all her findings in his car, "Look at your shoddy dissertation that should've never passed. Look at this photo of your shady pharmaceutical vice president." How is he supposed to look when he's driving? She's just asking to get into an accident.

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Yep, that's exactly where I stopped watching, I had surpassed my level of patience. It was so very stupid and absolutely not in line with her character. It did not make sense that she would go to Kyung-Min (and not to her bf or the police duh!) with all that information.

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I this this show must be like one of those pictures that depending on how you are looking at it you see either an old hag or a beautiful young lady. There's no in between. I personally am enjoying the pretty lady although I acknowledge that my eyes sometimes see the hag (yes I too think the drinking to celebrate, to have fun, to be sad, to welcome someone into the family, to do something when you're bored, or for absolutely no reason at all is too excessive especially for 2 people with mental health issues on medications (although sounds like JW may be off some of them and HN is lowering doses)).

I for one love the gif @attiton did of JW and DY's fight (Hopefully she'll post it here and if so volume up!). We knew that DY was in a 1-person competition from his character description, but he truly cared for JW and believed/defended him when no one else besides HN did. So, whatever the reason for the fallout was going to be a silly misunderstanding that felt very personal. I think although they filmed it for maximum comedic effect, there was still heart in the story. JW had been a good friend to DY and helped him study and do well in school so he could fulfill his dream of being a doctor. After the unfortunate accident when DY fell down the stairs and injured his wrist/hand, JW went on the medical mission trip in place of DY without any malice or pride. He even gave DY a book and a note saying "cheer up DY, I'm sorry." However, after JW's volunteering unexpected resulted in fame and fortune DY was jealous and wished it was his own fate. Every word or action by JW even when JW was trying to confide in DY that all that fame is a bit overwhelming, was like another turn of the knife in DY's heart. So he acted childishly and JW responded in like. In the present day though, they had a mature conversation about the underlying reason behind JY's deep resentment because he was struggling with his divorce and wishing he could show his in-laws how great he was.

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Very mixed feelings about these episodes - there's lots I'm getting highly tired of - but I will give a shout out to the writer who did their best to try and shoehorn Kopiko PPL into the story. When JW stuck something in DY's pocket as he passed, I assumed chocolate; the reveal of Kopiko actually had me sniggering and tipping my hat for a valiant effort. Bless.

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OMG hahaha I was waiting for the Kopiko plug since the end credits of episode one

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I was like "Omg I missed you Kopiko, where have you been? We are already at ep 12 and it's a drama about studying to death! You missed so many good opportunities"
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So many thoughts on these two episodes!

Firstly, I like how much the show progressed, and how it came back to the medical case. I felt they'd wrapped it up too abruptly in episode seven, and was waiting for the consequences to pan out. But now that Kyung-Min has been revealed to have a much bigger hand, I wonder what the shady anesthesiologist has to do with everything. I'm also curious why Kyung-Min stuck around to "help" Jeong-woo with his case. If he were behind the murder of the Macao heiress, wouldn't it have been more convenient to ditch? Unless he was gathering insider information to double cross?

Like others have said, I think PHS's aegyo is a bit over the top, and he hams his comic scenes too much. However, I did go into the drama expecting as much (from Strong woman), and don't mind it as much, I just see them as that cringe couple everyone lovingly tolerates.
I was starting to get annoyed by the whole mom misunderstanding and Ha-Neul doing nothing to resolve it plotline, but was so relieved when mom showed the ability to put two and two together, unlike some of the other characters on the show. I also liked how chill and non-intrusive the family is- they support the relationship and Jeong-woo without being overbearing. That being said, Ha-neul really needs to up her gift giving/ date planning- the burden of keeping their relationship romantic is entirely on Jeong-woo currently.

I am relieved Hong Ran has no more tea left to casually spill, and is now too occupied with her own plotline to interfere.

I hear everyone's criticism on the Truck of Doom, but I think we don't give it enough credit for how versatile an actor it is. No matter the genre of the show, ToD manages to make a cameo, and I think it's very telling of talent. Jokes aside, I was so disappointed with Ha-Neul for getting into the damn car with Kyung-Min and confronting him. A bit dangerous of a place to have a fight innit? What was she expecting to happen? Jin-Ah from Something in the Rain is the cautionary tale Ha-Neul should've learnt from. I was not expecting it from someone of her intelligence honestly.

I'm lowkey glad we're already at episode 12, and have only a few more to see how this story gets resolved.

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I did lose it when she got into the car but then I do continue to have faith in the writing. They did try to play lip service to show how she felt forced to get in so not 100% sure but I’ll live with it. This angle needed a resolution. We all went into the show with the Macau murder plot there from first episode so I’m not sure why ppl are face palming and cribbing so bad as if it was sprung on us on episode 10. There were truck load of hints to KM’s shadiness and almost all of us expected his hand behind JW’s downfall.
Jealousy can be a bitch in itself and worst crimes have been committed for it. And contrary to popular belief, jealousy does not need a tangible reason. The damn thing exists and triggers are plenty.
Are those trucks PPLs as well? I won’t be surprised if they are.

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I am relieved Hong Ran has no more tea left to casually spill, and is now too occupied with her own plotline to interfere.

Hahahahaha....It is so much better to see the secomdary OTP help each other.

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I also love how Meta the writer/director are which makes me think they know they are being OTT at times but it's intentional and they're having fun doing it. Here are 3 examples in this episode:
1. When HN and JW go on their field trip and are wearing school uniforms HN comments that they're too old to be wearing them, but JW says they still look young. Then they show them taking pictures and then transition to the actors in the same exact poses but in their real school uniforms during picture day from the past.
2. When DY and JW finish telling their story about hairpulling and the girls react in horror, HN asks "What did I just hear? You're so childish." HR says even her 5 yo son wouldn't act this way. So it's like they know that they are OTT. Then they follow with the serious conversation.
3. During the first scene of episode 12 when the boys and girls are having separate conversations but they use the brady bunch boxes. JW turns to the left where DY box is when DY asks if HN wants to keep their relationship a secret at work because she is embarrassed by JW and then HN's box appears on the right and says "People might feel uncomfortable because of us", JW turns to the right and nods and smiles (like he's directly talking to her).

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@koalatown
Yes!! 100% they know what they are doing. The OTT is very intentional. That ‘What did I hear’ was the best.

Even in that weird bed tapping scene when JW asks HN to lie down, he looks downright shady (tobvechonestvPHS expressions creeped me out. I’ve been so used to his wholesome gazes that I wasn’t ready lol!), and Ha-nuel asks him, Why are you tapping the bed? You want to tell me how hard it is or something?’ I spilled my drink. If that’s not double meaning I don’t know what is. These actors and the writer/director team know what they are doing and they are having a lot of fun with these tropes.

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Yes. Exactly what I feel about their lovey-dovey cute acts of the leads. They know what they are doing and they act cutely around each other when they are alone or in front of close friends. This is a Rom-com and ofc, some may find it cringe ,but necessary since this is HN first time in a Relationship and she is enjoying all emotions and to the point her family is in awe that sth good happened to her

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I loved the editing in #3 which is the opening sequence of Ep 12. That was a clever bit.

Ep 11 opening where PHS and PSH keep telling each other they are pretty and cute is meta too. So yes, the team is self aware.

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That akita found it cringe too. This PD/writer duo and the actors are excelling in poking fun at themselves, the tropes and calling themselves out on it within that very scene.
It’s littered with it:
1) akita barking and the owner hollering them to shut up
2) we are too young and I feel guilty - Ha-Neul at the museum
3) the make believe - only the coolest sit at the back of the bus
4) JW’s reaction to her gifts - feels like a punishment (a very aware team normal couples never would do that)
5) The switch to MBTI (I do wonder about PHS TT reference)
6) Hong ran - what did I just hear! Even my 5 yr old would not do that…followed by a very adult confession about going through a bad divorce
7) the flower tucked behind PHS ear - fan service at its best 😂
I have many more but you get the gist

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Did the truck of doom disappoint me? Yes; but just about. So far the writer has not failed to subvert any trope, neatly turning it on its head. So I’m hoping this won’t be different. That she came out of the police station to confront KM makes me hopeful.

I adored the 11th episode and most of 12th. Two days later I’m more excited to know what the so called mentor had been doing with JW.

DY and HR: I’m wasn’t invested in them but their turn has been so sweet that now I want to know how they move forward as well! They look good together and I loved the glam ping scene. Just toooo cute.

I love love love Ha-Nigel’s mom. She is such a breath of fresh air!! .❤️ How do you mail order one?

JW and HL: I love them, period. I love their cuddles and the fact that JW is taking it slow with her. It might be a drama trope but here it makes complete sense. When alone she goes and plays Tetris, and gifts her boyfriend puppy caps. He does protest but only to understand where she is coming from and does what someone that caring would do - recreate memories she missed. I found that very fulfilling and it perhaps made the inner child in me happy. I loved their all nighter, and loved their bickering. But most of all, loved how they simply talk it out. JW takes HL at face value only to learn she only goes quiet with others. With him, she wants to make up right away.
My heart went out to the lonely child JW was. His heart is cleaved from his parents. And he wanted to be an ostrich when it came to KM was understandable. KM was the last bastion of trust from his childhood. To see that crumble is painful.

I love how the writer took a dig at the tropes herself - can we just not hope this peace to continue? Why is it so difficult to have an ordinary life?

Because outlandish is what sells. And while some of this might call for suspension of disbelief, when it comes to cr.ime, weirder things have happened. Ask 48 hours true crime.

To be honest I have gotten so many beautiful moments out of this series that distractions have stopped distracting. And serious PHS returns next week. I would pay premium to watch that man emote his raw emotions. Cute and fun is great and. this is exactly why I watch Korean dramas. Their tropes are like no other, and they blend kiddie humor with serious hijinks like no other. Otherwise grit and sex is the name of the game on Netflix.

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Ha-Nigel’s mom

Completely off-topic, but I'd love to know why uri autocorrect doesn't have a single Korean friend but apparently knows lots of upper-class twits.

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LOL!!!!!! Good catch!!

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🤣That’s so true because I was wondering how it could turn Neul into Nigel when my autocorrect goes for Neil which at least is only one letter different. Mine is quite good now and offers a range of alternative Korean names when I start typing often complete with the - which I never use.

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My Mac died on me so I had to migrate to my iPad. My Mac keyboard does not autocorrect Korean words ever but I used ipad for the first time so possibly. It was funny to read though lol

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I have started rewatching this show and I realized the truck of doom trope didn't come out of nowhere. It symbolizes the necessary closure of Haneul's pending affairs. In the first episode just while experiencing the first stages of her depression (Sanggeun's constant mistreatment and Kyungmin's unfair appointment as a professor), she was almost run over twice. As she told her therapist, in those moments where everything seemed to end, she had lost her will to fight for her life. Although some would call it a stupid decision to go confront Kyungmin alone, I think she not only did it to clarify the facts behind Jungwoo’s medical incident but because Kyungmin wronged her too. After all her journey through recovery, she decided to be brave enough to stop running away and face the source of her predicaments. And unlike the previous times, now she has reasons to live. IMHO the message the show wants to convey to us is that in order to be at peace with your body, mind and heart you should purge yourself of whatever ails you internally and not postpone unfinished business. It remains for us to see how Jungwoo will now overcome this blow so as not to give up in the face of adversity.

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That's a great point. I didn't connect that - the show started with the truck of doom. And to be honest, while I did cringe at her getting into the car with Kyung Min, she has been a bit of an odd ball always. To go charge KM directly would actually be quite in her character.
She was ready to go charge her professor for docking her pay in the third episode when JW stopped her. If JW had not been so reluctant to dig into his past and see KM for who and what he really was, she might have shared this info with him. But to learn that the most trusted man was the one who orchestrated the entire thing would be a blow of the worst kind.

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@lovepark That was a thoughtful recap. Thanks!

Yes, Ep 11 and the first 40 minutes of Ep 12 were pure fan service and I unabashedly enjoyed it. I wanted a drama that would put a smile on my face than strain my brain, so I went in with the flow, but the cliffhanger of Ep 12 bought me back from the fantasy. It should have been a 12 episode drama. The end!

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I was not appt with the trope used — truck,,HN getting into car etc, but I like the turn of her getting injured and JW now having to actually deal with his ptsd while he is at the lowest point in his life. For him to get back in his feet in a pressure situation would be his arc completion, and HN getting her job back would be hers.
HN muses at one point - I’m proud at how Jeong Woo is holding up. Because that’s exactly what he has been doing. They have a lot of story still left to tell.
Those narrations have a meaning….

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I disagree. If they wanted Jung Woo to get back on his feet by himself and not be dependent on Ha Neul's presence in the operation theatre, they should have made Ha Neul get a job elsewhere. We can see him missing her, get some of his anxiousness back, remember Ha Neul's advice and recollect himself.

Ha Neul can also be in a dilemma over the new job. Whether she wants to pursue her dream of becoming a professor and face her trauma head on or push everything back and stay with Jung Woo.

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I don’t think he is ready yet to face pressure emergency without Ha-nuel. With her being so sick, it brings him to the edge. Of course they could have low toned it but this show has been OTT from word go so I’m not sure why it would be different now, especially with Kyung Min’s arc remaining incomplete.
Why did he sit on that camera pen for two days? Why did he have his eyes closed in the court room? Those were loop holes that were irritants at the back. The dark forces are embedded in the show episode 1. But the makers did choose to dwell on it, rather use them as a vehicle for psyche exploration of the protagonists at every turn.

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I don’t think he is ready yet to face pressure emergency without Ha-nuel. With her being so sick, it brings him to the edge. Of course they could have low toned it but this show has been OTT from word go so I’m not sure why it would be different now, especially with Kyung Min’s arc remaining incomplete.
Why did he sit on that camera pen for two days? Why did he have his eyes closed in the court room? Those were loop holes that were irritants at the back. The dark forces are embedded in the show episode 1. But the makers didn’t choose to dwell on it, rather use them as a vehicle for psyche exploration of the protagonists at every turn.

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I have very much enjoyed Doctor Slump and will faithfully watch it through episode 16.

The truck of doom doesn't bother me because it is, after all, a Korean drama to appease the Korean viewers. Compare to the majority of the American TV shows, we have gun violence, drug overdose, infidelities, etc. Give me a line of truck of dooms and I would still watch it to the last episode, lol.

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Thank you for saying this. I’ll take trucks over guns any day. I feel sad watching series’s like Killer paradox. Not because such things don’t exist but I feel stressed out when I watch those stories and I hope this external criticism does not stop these very aware drama makers to stop delving into their usp. No where in the world will I see a couple in 30s actually behaving like this, generating guffaws and pink froth in a perfectly serious theme. And make it believable. They are catering to their base audience and kudos for that. We are simply gulping that cultural portrayal and trying to project our expectations on them. We will also be the first one to stop watching if these became sane, sanitized, logic driven couples having boring restaurant dates in sultry dresses and have sex like rabbits. Give me that museum tour and bus rides. I know they are capable of fire - rewatch ep 10. I don’t need to be reminded all the time.
I mean John Wick falls from some 12th floor, hits objects on the way, gets up and walks away - with the sign ‘ no bones were hurt in making of this scene’… and we get a 4th installment of gun sprays.

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😂
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Truck? I saw a huge one coming up in the last preview of the next big show that is airing in a few days, so don't let it bother you. Enjoy the show, if it ends like we hoped I might just watch it after.

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Why am I feeling that some drama watchers are complaining about the cutesy lovey-dovey interaction of our leads couple. Well, it's rom-com and I think it's necessary (unlike they are being like that when it's melo drama).
And, the leads doing what teenagers may do, my take is that JW is helping her to experience what NH couldn't enjoy in her childhood and younger days. So, I feel that some romance parts may make some viewers to feel cringe,so they are successful in that part. They are being childish (when they are alone or with close friends)knowing it's JW 's personality and HN is all over the moon bcz it's her first time in dating. When it comes to serious manner, they solve with open mind.

I think The villain part is not clear yet. We suspect the intra-op anaesthesiologist in the beginning and they make a victim in the middle and, then he appears again, blackmailing MKM. And, the sole purpose of MKM is not clear yet. So, just relax and enjoy what writers will reveal later.

I'm one of those who really enjoy the emotional bond and support of our leads . They are not childhood sweethearts,but they are already at each other's heart when they are young. And the 2nd leads' couple is doing their best to be each other's support in parenting. Love that there is no love triangle or sth.

Thes are just my opinion and PEACE everyone ❤️

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. I also think this writer likes to give us what we think is a head scratcher to show us something different than expected in flashbacks as well. For example when DY was pressuring their ex teacher to get Botox sooner than later. He seemed kind of mean to us but then the reveal was more true to his character. Or when HN ignored JW’s question if she’s ok after they fainted and brought out her notebook to study (cold and ruthless) but later it is revealed that she wrote that encouraging note. This is why I think HN getting into KM’s car may seem stupid at face value but maybe we will get a more satisfying reveal later.

Also the writer plays on our typical trope expectations like when JW confesses that the uncle and brother made him drink and then threw him under the bus after vowing to protect him. She got that mean angry look on her face and did the illegal u turn that almost made him swoon because he and us may have thought she was the knight riding to save his princess’ honor but instead she just scolded him about not being responsible.

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Having a love-hate relationship with this drama.

I love how cute they were getting over their childhood hatred and getting together.

I hate the bad medical practice, cloying aegyo and most of all excessive and constant drinking by two doctors who can’t even google to learn that alcohol itself IS A DEPRESSANT, not to mention it shouldn’t be combined with anti-depressant meds. Talk about a missed PSA opportunity for a country with a serious drinking problem.

Also, if I owned Ambien I’d probably sue them. Pretty surprising they’re using the actual brand name unless someone thought this would be good PPL? 😒

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I think it may be a subtitle issue; they used a well known brand name as short hand for sleeping pill. I am sure they did it for US audience as I had to google what it was as it’s not a drug I have heard of.
The excessive drinking with minimal after effects was shown with Uncle and brother being bright and breezy whilst the one with the job where being drunk would be an issue has the after effects 😬

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They pronounce Zolpidem in that scene. But netflix always change it for audience like Behind the white tower to Grey's anatomy in the drama.

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Thanks for confirming that there is a bias to using US friendly drugs terms. I wonder if that is a generic term like paracetamol and aspirin and not a named brand.

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Confirming that zolpidem is the generic for Ambien.

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Thank you! I should have listened and not just read.

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Yes the aeygo was cringy, and if you followed my comments I wasn't satisfied with the whole crew acting from ep 1 too (everyone were exaggerating their every move and dialouge, I will be brave and say PSH was the best at portraying her character + Yoon park )
Anyway, what I didn't like in this show was not acting cute all the time or acting.
I'm already used to all that, and now I'm enjoying them a little kkkk
My problem with this show is, they don't have a plot, they don't know if this is a psychological show or a criminal or medical show , it seems to me they sit together and discuss what they should do for next ep after the previous ep aired!
I mean, there is no absolute point for this show. That's what bothers me, but I think I will stay for the cute scenes till the end

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This drama has the same issue from the beginning, they focused the love story on their teen years instead of the present and their adulthood. For these 2 episodes, they pushed the cursor way too much in the cuteness.

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Thanks for the weecap @lovepark
I have recently noticed that I may eagerly await a drama drop but I still dip in and out of the episode. I tend to rush back to see the end with those that have everything I love whilst there are others I forget I haven’t finished watching it. Forgetting to return has happened on more than one occasion with this show and it’s only when I read the weecap or see something on a fan wall gif that I realise I missed a bit. So I missed the truck of doom with this one. I think it was seeing the annoying hyung making a comeback that lead me to start feeling a sense of foreboding which I don’t like when I am enjoying a rom com. Hence my tendency to avoid thriller/mystery dramas. So it’s weird I exited Dr Slump but avidly searched for released too early episodes of The Impossible heir.

There is something about the different tones in Dr slump that meant the murder and break ins etc. didn’t work for me and yet the chaebol antics in Wedding impossible are not bothering me at all. It’s because I have these two dramas to compare Dr slump too that I realised why I am having problems with the show. It’s important for me to know what I am going into so I can get into the right frame of mind to watch a drama. Maybe I missed the memo but I went into Dr slump expecting it to be a Business Proposal lighter type of drama with some slice of life due to the crisis elements. As the genre mix is not as expected I will continue watching the parts that fit and walking away when it doesn’t work for me. It’s a shame because on the whole this has been a great rom com with slice of life elements.

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Did this week’s episode confirm my earlier suspicions that the Audi is Haneul’s car which she rarely uses for work hence why we don’t see her driving it that often?

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For what it’s worth, I thought exactly the same thing: “So Reply was right, and it was Haneul’s car after all!” 😂(Meanwhile, Audi making slightly disappointed PPL noises in the background for not being featured as often.)

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Maybe there will be a car chase to hunt down the baddies😆

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Yes, they established Audi is hers in ep 4.

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I share the fragile hope of the very real good bits of this drama not being thrown away in the remaining episodes.
To me, until Sunday's episode the drama has been a very meaningful tour through some common problems that seriously need to be addressed - everywhere, but not less in SK where mental health problems are so taboo, and suicide rates are horribly high.
And I think it's lovely to address this in a show without turning the whole thing into a gloomy documentary.
Kyung-min is unquestionably a very bad person but one wonders what kind of situation he is in, since someone is sending at least one - maybe even two - Truck(s) of Doom after him.
I would really have liked this show to go on without this kind of drama, since the more everyday drama is so engaging.
I do not mind the foolish parts of the story ... it's like small intervals of Commedia Dell'Arte, and doesn't ruin the story for me. But the long drinking tour in the 12th episode, and Ha-neul's decision to meet alone with someone who may have attempted to murder Honey-sik and be part of the murder he was framed for, and getting in his car to accuse him there ... all that was the kind of stuff you hope agains hope will not happen in a show that you love.
I giffed some of it as a verse of the cautionary tale hit "Dumb ways to die". https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1545020/#acomment-1545116
I also sincerely recommend going to @attiton 's wall and experience her musical exploration of a male pillow fight.

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I do feel the trucks were actual accidents and not on purpose. They spun right into the middle of traffic. While the truck could have stopped - or maybe could not because the object was unexpected in the middle of the road and it’s impossible to stop a truck at that close range without turning turtle.

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It seemed to me the first one was driving against the direction of the traffic in that lane. The other one was a different story, since they were stopped in the middle of the road, sideways.
Of course, you are supposed to not drive faster than you can stop when something is on a standstill in front of you, but the accident is more understandable.

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Yes, the pros to cons of this drama are shifting for me like for many other comments I have read. However, I have enough pros or interest to keep going and see what they will do.
This drama feels like an onion in some ways, always peeling away a layer to show you that what you thought was the story isn't exactly all the story. And that general concept is intriguing to me, I just wish I didn't feel the gear changes so jarringly....
I like how the writers keep peeling back layers- No one's story is quite as it appeared on the surface at first.
I like how the mystery storyline seems well-embedded from the first ep. The draw back is that many viewers seem to want that storyline to be over and it looks like it is designed to be a thread throughout the whole thing. Ugh, I knew Slimy Sunbae was not out of the picture yet as much as I wished he were.

What I find most interesting is how they keep circling back to a central question/problem and the characters keep learning about more about themselves and life each time. That problem (or human flaw if you like) is wanting to ignore pain in order to keep your life "happy" or "successful". When we first meet Haneul and Jungwoo they are both in pretty hard denial about their pain and have done a pretty good job of shoving it down and ignoring issues in order to keep going for their goals. That seriously breaks of course.
Then when they first start dating they want to imagine that since the trial is "over" they can go on easily now without confronting how the psychological issues are far from resolved and because they try and ignore that they almost immediately break up.
They circle back around and are doing a better job of communicating, showing growth and understanding. And of course they would like to leave the betrayers and drama in the past and just have this happy life where they are both healing.
I think we are in for another circle around to dealing with the issues at another deeper level and I'd like to see the growth our leads have made so far serve them at this next hurdle in their lives, banding together in strength rather than isolating themselves in self-recrimination and misery....
So yeah, I like this possible growth process and the respect and support they almost always show each other and how they are doing such a good job of showing apologies and taking responsibility. I do not however trust that the execution or pacing in the show is going to be my fav but is my interest in the characters' growth arc enough to hold me through another couple weeks..... I don't know.

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This. I think you read it exactly as I did. There are two kinds of reactions to misfortune:
1) those who will try to forget the bad and simply try to live in the present, pretending everything is good because superficially it is, without addressing the core problem.
2) those who will mop around at the tiniest problem and keep dragging it back until ppl stop listening to them (it’s kind of a spoof but Dr Bin’s character is a bit like that, even though he never speaks about the worst - his divorce and the reason behind it).

JW and HN are in that phase. I think I really liked the way it turned on its head. This is one of the things I’ve really liked about this drama - I don’t know what to expect next and it’s kept me intrigued. Coupled with some really heartwarming characters - even Bada has managed to endear himself now - it’s been a delightful ride and, cringe and all. We are heading into melo but the way this writer has surprised us every single time, I’m still not sure if we can expect the usual.

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I think this show ran out of steam. Something which is supposed to be cute and endearing induced a cringe in me. Well, I never find thirty somethings acting like kids in their relationships attractive. What bothers me the most is that both leads are going through mental health issues and taking medications then get drunk. They are medical doctors on top of it and involved in intricate surgeries. On top of all that ML is still nervous when operating.
This whole drugging a friend and framing him is just not interesting or intriguing.

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I don’t know - I never read it as a cute feel good drama. Healing yes. But what rom com that is supposed to be only cute starts with gangsters in first episode? Or introduces shady people planting cameras and following people? The intent of the writer was clear from the start. I was disappointed when they just folded it in episode 7 so quickly though I was happy that they turned it into something very positive after that.

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Am I the only one that looks forward to the PSH and PHS fight scenes? I think this is the one romcom that I WANT to see the leads fighting. I'm already on record in saying that the aegyo is too over the top but their fights are actually funny. Their facial expressions kill me. When PSH gets mad and gets wide eyed, she becomes a lifelike anime character. Ironic how she is known for her crying as I am genuinely shocked that there isn't a flood watch declared in the immediate area of where she is standing when she is crying given how big her eyes can get.

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Their fight scenes are adorable. You are right - she does look like an anime character!

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Based on some of the comments, I’m really happy that I wasn’t drawn to this drama at all as I can’t stand anything but minimal aegyo and even that is too much for me at times. What were they thinking?

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1 think about their core audience?. There has to be a demand for this else it’s not possible the makers would put money behind this. And to be honest baby cringe talk is plenty common between couples its just that we are

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Never privy to it

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I know you love PHS so it is probably a bit hard on you to see any criticisms of his character!

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Nopes. You are most welcome to your thoughts. I have been the first one to say I am not a fan of cheesy PHS. I absolutely prefer his Happiness avatar, which is why I am looking forward to the next episodes. My answer was rhetorical too, because cheesy aiego is an integral part of these rom coms, and even some rom-coms and had me scratching my head in the beginning because I have never seen it before I started watching K-dramas, before I realised it's deliberate and caters to the audience. It kinda hit me in that butt touch series and I made my peace with it.

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For sure. My question was rhetorical though.
And, hank the Goddess that we’re not privy to it. Some things should stay behind closed doors.

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I find the primary couple somewhat dull and annoying, but I’m here for the secondary couple! Watching the single parents support each other is really cute.

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Spoiler alert. One of the two trucks of doom in this week's episode is being sent abroad to work on foreign accidents for two years. They will be reunited in episode 16.

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I was hugely disappointed in the sudden appearance of the White Truck Of Doom. It does occur to me though that our FL was probably not the target- the scumbag driving the car was the intended target and our FL is simply collateral damage. Still, was the TOD really necessary for this story?

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Of course not. But, it's on the K-drama checklist, so it has to happen.

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Arrived at episode 12 and with each episode I swear it is my last. Nevertheless, I persist. I persist ever though I am SO, SO, SO angry at the writers on this one. As a former mental health counselor (retired), I was so happy to see the issue of mental health being addressed in such an open and refreshing way. She actually books an appointment with a Psychiatrist. Yea! She took the Beck Depression Inventory. Yea! He prescribed her medication. Yea! Did he warn her not to take anti-depressants and anti-anxiety with alcohol? No! Now you combine these medications with alcohol....and not a little alcohol...but falling down drunk alcohol and not just once, but over and over again. ACK! Symptoms of combining these medications and alcohol include increased depression, drowziness and in the worst case scenario, coma and death. Now we reach Episode 12 and we learn of his friend spiking his drink with Ambien and the character, who plays a doctor, says, with a straight face, that she is concerned about mixing medication with alcohol. The writers had a duty to warn and they messed up. I'm mad. Can you tell? (And thanks for letting me vent)

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👋🏾welcome to the comments, sorry you had to jump in because of a frustration rather than joy. There are a few mental health professionals on the site and we all joined you in that collective sigh and we ALL commented on the meds and copious alcohol combo showing up multiple times with no consequences. There were other elements we commented on because of the rarity of addressing mental health front and centre we worried about the messages it might send out to these in need of services; therapy rooms with a lack of soundproofing and the glass in the doors so clients can be seen and heard by others being just two of the other areas of concern. Did you watch Daily dose of sunshine that was another one where they included some very helpful elements for raising awareness but some areas were of serious concern. That one was written by a nurse who worked in mental health and showed inpatient and community based interventions.

Hopefully, you will have more fun in other drama comments sections.

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I was so mad when I penned that comment last night, I almost started watching Encounter for the 14th time in the spirit of needing some joy. :) I cannot begin to thank you enough for your quick and thoughtful reply. At least this issue is on the radar of some. Hopefully, this collective sigh will be heard and heeded by the film industry in Korea. I wonder if there is a way to contact Netflix. And, yes, Viriginia, there is a Santa Claus. :) (That quote reveals my age--79). I just found your website while watching My Dearest. You saved me a couple of battles, a recapture and directed me to all the tender, not to be missed moments. And without intending to, you sent me on a Namgoong-min binge. Speaking joy.

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I am glad all is well now and you have been calmed by the dramas that suit you best.
I looked up the quote as it meant nothing to me and found the info online.
What's the website you were referring too was it Noona's Noonchi? I mentioned her somewhere else on the site, I can't remember which post now.
She is a Family Therapist (like me) who uses k dramas in her therapy and has written a book about it.

Good to know DB caters across the age range it's fascinating that teenagers and grandparents can all join in the banter on one site.

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Thanks for introducing me to Noona's Noonchi. I love podcasts and I will give her a listen. I was reminded of a popular book (2001) called "Watch two movies and call me in the morning" by an author who also incorporated film into his therapy.
In that same spirit, I just recommended CLOY to an old friend from HS (Class of '62). She recently broke her hip and was in need of a distraction. She LOVED this drama and has also found comfort in the piano tune "Song for my Brother". (Korean OST's--a whole other discussion). In the truest sense, it has proved to be good therapy.
And speaking of good therapy, it is heartwarming to connect with people much younger than myself and find that a common interest supersedes age. I love meeting up with my friend's granddaughter and geeking out about the BTS concert we both attended.
This is a great website. So glad to have found you.

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It really is a great site for meeting like minded people. I now have a group of real life K drama friends I met on here who I have met up with in person and we meet monthly on a video call discussing a different drama each month.
Let me know how you get on with the podcast.
Was that the website you were talking about?

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I think I was referring to this website! :) How cool that you have met KDrama friends! I have one good KD friend, (someone who seems so unlikely to be a KD fan), and we meet up once a month. Everyone else thinks I'm nuts. "Nuts" is fine with me--no therapy needed as I am not seeking a cure. Right?

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Thanks for clarifying you meant DB it is indeed the best place for drama info from the very knowledgeable beanies and the weecap posts☺️

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