OUR BLOOMING YOUTH DB Group Watch/rewatch/binge-watch
Episodes 13 & 14
Episode 13 and 14 remain the highlight of my Our Blooming Youth watching experience.
These two episodes are difficult to summarise because they are an emotion.
For me the highlights were:
1) Hwan’s beautiful confessions. The man has now come to terms with the fact that he truly loves this woman. He wants her by his side. He does not yet know how he is going to accomplish it. He has deep romantic feelings, but his uncompromising moral compass keeps him in dilemma and ambiguity.
He is also torn between treating her like a woman and treating her as an equal (as in a man). Interestingly, he did not intervene when Tae Kang took her down. He let Tae Kang do his job in the absence of clarity, but later, he believed Jay Yi even though her memories made no sense to him. I loved it even more when he showed complete faith in her ability to tackle assassins.
Yet when she is distressed, he goes for that oh! so! delicious wrist-grab, until she protests. And then comes one of the most beautiful confessions, which was not even supposed to be a confession (this girl is in for a lifetime of poetry, I tell you).
But it’s his gaze – goodness heavens – if a gaze could melt ice and enflame embers, this would be it. The first one comes when he comes around and yay! finally handholds (and she in turns keeps the hand in a vice grip lol!) and then he turns on that gaze. How did she not become a puddle of water?
The second one is when she sleeping on the desk, exhausted. That almost-touch was equal to a hundred hugs. It sizzled and burned. This show took slow burn to the next level. And then he turned on that gaze.
2) Jay Yi’s hug: Need I say more? Everyone went – what happened? But I guess Hwan attributed that to her usual non-conformist attitude and distress. Still…..wow.
3) When he called her name…..I remember getting goosebumps. I still do.
4) I wish I didn’t have to see all that cackling.
5) It had some tough moments. To see a family massacred is stuff nightmares are made of. Kudos to the director for having the guts to show something so gut-wrenching.
6) The humour of course, continues. Hwan is jealous of himself… hahaha!! It’s one of my favourite funny sequences. Damn! No one, truly no one does comedy better.
7) The story now gallops towards the unpleasant realities.
Thank you for hosting us and preparing such a wonderful gif. Your comments perfectly capture the essence of these episodes. They are indeed an emotion.
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My favorite is his quick blink in the 4th gif down – I don’t think she actually spit when she said those words but she might as well have for his reaction!
acting is about reacting. For sure, one can *see* her dialogues by just looking at his face!!! 🥰😍 Confused, bewildered, befuddled in not how uri Seja Jeoha is but Hwan is definitely a fool for love. 😜
Guillermo del Toro says that movies [or shows] are made up of *looks* (which is never more evident for me than when I’m watching Pan’s Labyrinth) and it’s something I think kdramas in general, and PHS in particular, totally excel at.
Yup. Like she snarled at him 🤣. I found it quite funny how dense he is and how bold she became to just say it all (except who it is). I do believe he only thinks in his wildest dreams would this person who has told him he’s less attractive than her fiancé and wants to be the head eunuch would ever like him especially since he’s basically off limits to anyone who doesn’t fit the strict requirements for a crown princess.
They made it a running gag. Each scene of CP’s increasing frustration and bewilderment is my favorite. Without spoilers – he cracks me up each time when he wonders *who* could she be seeing.
The first time I found it funny, but later I was only slightly annoyed because I had the impression that the writers were obsessively trying to drag out this one storyline.
In their defense they had 20 episodes. 😊 I agree that from a strictly script point of view it dragged quite a bit and made Hwan a lovestruck fool. 💘 But (Sawry not Sorry) Park Hyung-sik cracked me up every single time. 🤣🤣🙃
I actually liked it. So much better than no-reason angst of lovers who can/cannot be lovers. They not only turned it into humour, it also maintained his status quo with Jay Yi without getting too mauldin. I mean he is to be married soon, and it can’t be the best news for two people in love.
Of course him being clueless is the highlight of this part. I believe we are many women watching this right now. And we all shake our head- yes, yes- I believe this could happen haha. Poor men, do they get tired of this??
I like the Soon Dol and Tae Gang interactions. Despite her accusations he not only apologized to her in the library but also was very empathetic with her predicament.
Of course Jae-yi pointing out the books with her leg (coz pointing with the finger would be a waste of energy) was just such a Jae-yi move.
I thought Tae Gang very wooden at first but it dawned that this boy grew up in a strict role as warrior and bodyguard and he has no idea how to really be smooth with people. I no longer think it is the acting that is wooden, but the character is supposed to be like that. frankly, later, when he tells Yae ji that it is his first time to meet a lady who doesnt fit in womans clothes and tsk tsks judgingly … lol. and he can be opinionated in a very, how to say, hasty and nonchalant way. so, I grew kind of fond of this lil Pinocchio.
It was a difficult role to pull off for sure. It could be too charismatic but just enough to be swift and agile and a warrior, intelligent enough to carry out Seja Jeoha’s order and as world wise as a solider is supposed to be … basically brawn over brains.
I still think this kid was wooden, though he did have great chemistry with both Hwan and Jay Yi. His eyes are rather flat, and his role needed a little more emoting later in the series. The reason I say this is because if you watch Choi Byung-chan in King’s Affection, very similar role with very similar motivations, and that kid aced it. However, Tae Kang grows on you and he has a very sweet smile.
And I can’t help but compare – PHS was same age as this kid in Sirius, where he played a double role. He was better than the adult actor in that series. Even if you don’t want to watch the entire thing, just watch the first 10 minutes of every episode just to see a very young Park blow two complicated characters out of the park. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lli3-LcEfMU
Won’t agree with the wooden part
… just a little bit forgiving about it because of that connect with the OTP. Of course a good actor (or even a halfway decent one) would have been welcome. In the beginning that one note expression was okay but later it became tedious. Eye acting is a pro level move much used in sageuks. I doesn’t hurt that he looks good standing with Park Hyung-sik – who knows perhaps he picked a tip or two about acting. 😂
😂😂😂 Cera I read that first line. Then read the rest. Then re-read the first line, then reread everything, and I was still trying to figure out when the tubelight came on 😂😂😂😂
@minniegupta1 yes, he is a little bit wooden, but I kind of started routing for the character more because of it. He´ll get better I´m sure. Hwaiting
Park Hyung Sik is a method actor so, he said in some interviews too that he delves quite deep into the thoughts of his character and tries to imagine their mind process, then implant it in his own mind and just flow with it. I think how people evolve in their profession is different and some reach some goalposts faster bc of their method but I have faith in all of them. I really want to follow this kids´ career and see him improve.
We have seen Hwan cry before (both times in front of his father) but this time when he suspects that both Jae-yi and the Sergeant have died his crying howls were heart wrenching. 😭
Also that “unspoken gwaenchanha” before dropping faint from loss of blood. It really struck home how hard their lives were and even a small injury if untreated could result in death.
Remember she ran on it? Like she sprinted and flew into his – well, not arms, though I am sure as you mentioned earlier, it must have taken a superhuman effort not to engulf her back.
And those two arrows piercing the bag and the blood spattered on the cliff also pierced his heart and smashed it to smithereens. He must have taken out the arrows because later the bag was just bloodied.
I like the scene where Hwan and Jae-yi go to the place where the previous CP used to take Hwan. His declaration that “I will protect my people… with you” is a perfect continuation of their pervious promise to protect each other.
That’s my favourirte confession scene. To b honest, that is how a love confession would like to Confucian ears. I am sure they did not utter the word love lightly, or even ever. So the fact that Jay Yi knew he was in love with her was quite evident, though she kept it hidden. It was only when she thought she would lose him did her patience break.
It also would be why she does not name him and His Dumbness can’t read the air.
I think I tagged people, but for whom hasn’t seen it, I made a couple of gifs and posted them while waiting impatiently for this space to open. Here are they: https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1569317/
Right? He knew the cackling minister wouldn’t have done that for no reason, so he threw everyone out so he could find out what really happened. Good thing!
It seemed like such an uncharacteristic move. But very well done. 👏
He’s already planning to reduce the Cho family’s influence by having a wife for Hwan from another family. Visiting the Prime Minister’s house would also be pretty unprecedented IMO.
I LOVED that frustrated confession scene!!! 🤣 It was sooo funny and felt so real!!
Seriously, it was so funny. How does he not even think once it could be him? Like he is the one sitting on her bed while she is talking to him in that same eunuch uniform.
Having a really hard time getting a good link to @claire2009. I’m just going to post this here. Maybe the server gods are mad at all of her pictures🤣
Episode 11 and 12- My Title: If you Lack Compassion, You are not Human. Put compassion into Action! https://www.dramabeans.com/members/claire2009/
Link to our amazing Claire and her review and photos
I’m going to say right up front that I felt both 11 and 12 were a bit flat. With 20 episodes, they can’t all be perfect. To me these were filler- but when this amazing cast is on the screen who can really complain. There was a lot of background about the past and the Village that was destroyed. I also can’t stand time wasted for plot sake- 1 month in the room for the Crown Prince??? I understand the point at the end. I would have been happy if we could have seen a daily account of the development of the relationship between TG and CP but no, just wasted time. I usually have a hard time with the family parts of Dramas and the King didn’t help me change my mind in this one. I see the story, but would like it to be shorter. This is about when I start thinking it should have had less episodes. But after reading all of the great comments from my fellow watch beanies I was reminded why overall this was such a great show-the Fab 4. How can you go wrong with this team!!
Now that I got that off my chest-
There was some great development of the friendship. Thank you for having that part to look forward to Writer/Director.
Sargeant wins the award for eye rolls in this show!
Best Part of the Show for Me- Shadows! And she does it not once but lots. To me this expresses everything we love about this couple. She is headstrong, but soft and playful, he thinks he is in charge, but loves everything she does. She wins and I love it.
To me this expresses everything we love about this couple. She is headstrong, but soft and playful, he thinks he is in charge, but loves everything she does. She wins and I love it.
I’ve been having trouble accessing my fanwall too. It’s so frustrating that I had to ask if anyone was having the same problem on the main page. I couldn’t even get to my fanwall to ask that.
And out comes one of the best OSTs out there. This is such a beautiful song and it grows on you. I have been listening to it since it was released and I never tire of listening to it. His range and that sooting melodious voice never gets old. I am not as big a fan of his other songs, but I love Bud.
Did you know, when this episode came out, I didn’t know Hyung Sik could sing (had no clue he was an idol). I think it was one of the beanies who mentioned something about his 3+ octaves (I think it was @Gikata) that clued me in.
Oh, my ‘muggleness’ didn’t go away until I heard him doing that ‘Do Intern’ in Bong Soon. I am sure my face was priceless because I didn’t believe it was his voice 😂😂😂
You can’t blame me though, What Happens To My Family preceded this. How would I know he made an effort to sound so terrible in that family karaoke? 😂😂
Yep, likely me it was))) Btw, he wasn’t just any idol – he was THE main vocalist in his group. Tho they had a few of them – another one would be ML of GORYEO-KHITAN WAR – and he quickly became more known for other things than his singing, which is why not many these days are aware of this.
P.S. Anyone needs recommendations from good ol’ idol days? As much as I appreciate his OSTs, there were some real bangers way before that…
he was THE main vocalist in his group. Tho they had a few of them – another one would be ML of GORYEO-KHITAN WAR
Dang! Looks like I am still a muggle 🤦♀️ Lead vocalist? GKW guy is his bandmate? Wow.
It would be lovely to see if he has sung something good. His OSTs are good, actually some of them quite memorable, but not something I would like to listen to all the time. I like the SWDBS OST, but mostly for the way he sang it rather the actual music.
@seeker Sissennim, I defer to you respectfully *folds hands and bows* ❤️❤️❤️
In Doctor Slump he was bad in that karaoke bar until in one small segment he forgot to be bad 😂😂😂😂😂
@seeker: I only know of Si-wan and that too because I watched him. There is another guy I know of but cannot remember the name – the one who took PHS’s recent interview and keeps hugging him while PHS looks quite pained 😂
I generally don’t see much promotional/ variety shows and prefer the “undiluted” drama experience as I find it’s a rabbit hole difficult to get out from.
But I do respect and appreciate our multi-talented artists. Like Byeon Woo-seok who has actually sung the songs in Carry Sun-Jae and Run or Kim Min-jae who actually played the piano in Do You Like Brahms.
Oh @seeker you got my attention!!! Kim Min Jae is a fantastic pianist and singer. I read once online that someone said he learned to play for Brahms- not true. But he did practice a lot!! He’s got some great songs out there. Many of him rapping as that was his direction for awhile. It’s his musical talents that gave him the opportunity to serve now in the Army military band. And then we get to see him💜💜💜
I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that video of Kim Min-jae playing Traumerei. Also where he’s playing live in some show.
Park Eun-bin learned to play violin for her role but as you said Min-jae practiced really really hard and could play ALL the pieces in the show flawlessly.
We (husband and I) got really excited at ‘Do Intern’ and immediately looked up his music- and were really disappointed. Croony music not for us. Which is not trying to be negative, its great that so many people Like it- its just that we would really love to hear him sing some Opera! ( or even Queen!)
These are some of my favorite episodes too. The anguish when Hwan thought his loved ones were dead, Jae-i’s desperation to find him despite being hurt, her hug when they found him wandering in despair, him calling her real name, her confession, their total trust in each other. This honestly didn’t even feel like a slow-burn romance to me, because it was so clear that they were aware of their own feelings, even if they weren’t fully aware of each other’s. Watching Hwan war with himself because he doesn’t feel allowed to love his best friend’s betrothed is so delicious.
Watching Hwan war with himself because he doesn’t feel allowed to love his best friend’s betrothed is so delicious.
It’s so poignant and was beautifully done. It’s possibly my favourite romance, despite seeing some truly great romances before and since, my feelings towards this couple hasn’t changed.
I had posted this earlier, but I wanted to post it here too:
Why Hwan might not consider it’s him……
The archaic bottling up of sexual desire was a trumped up virtue in most Eastern societies. The wives living completely separate from husbands and not able to meet them at will seems so ridiculous today but that’s how this Prince was brought up, so him trampling down on any of these ‘ghastly’ feelings probablyi another of his ‘virtue’ he is so proud of holding.
What I love about this show is the consistency of characters shown.
Jay Yi on her behalf has given plenty of hints she is interested in him, but they have been too subtle (even for us audience). So when she hugs him, and knows that he would be waiting in th east, he is thrilled. Yet he does not read anything into it.
Thing is, Hwan is used to Jay-yi being ….. Jay-yi. She keeps doing most unconventional things – she gets drunk (the first sticker shock for our very uptight and prudish prince), and she has actually spoken to him about ‘ghastly’ things like ‘kissing’ and ‘smelling’ and ‘checking the guy out before spending rest of the her life in her husband’s bed’ in a complete drunken state – and yet at one poignant moment when he lets his guard down and tells her she could have asked him to buy her ribbons, she is shocked that he could even think she would ask something so personal from him – so Jay-yi too has gone above and beyond to maintain the very personal distance of physical intimacy in a sexual form. She is in a very intimate setting with him everyday – she dresses him up – and yet she is all professional.
Just not that. She holds the royal guard by collar. He does not even blink before taking her flying into the mountains to chase the male assasins. She tosses Eunuchs around and soundly beats them up for their transgression.
Nothing that Jay-yi has done in his eyes points at anything but her being the first order of servant at his feet. So when she finally tells him she is in love, he cannot bring himself to even consider himself – the girl would not even have him hold her hand or tell him that she wanted ribbons……consistency.
Coupled with the fact he seldom lets his guard down around her, he is almost afraid that on misstep from him might make him lose her. He is so desperately friend zoning her, it’s heartbreakingly funny. The only time he truly let his guard down is when he sees her sleeping – that gentle reaching out to touch her broke my heart (and that typical PHS look, someone kill me please) . He looks at her unguardedly for the very first time, before he calls out her name. That scene is so beautifully done.
Jay yi though knows her Prince has fallen for her, and her exasperation at his denseness is endearing and hilarious. “One who keeps coming in and out of palace’ – I laughed so hard at that.
The conversation on this hilltop is my favourite. The cinematography of this scene is wallpaper worthy. It creates a sense of how small humans are to nature and the endless flow of time. After all, personal power and greed are just short lived things compared to the existance of a kingdom that is grounded from generation to generation by ordinary people. This scene induces in me a calm feeling just like when I watch the sunset on my way home every day.
I have loved this scene so very much. Your words are so true. This scene painted the larger picture so effectively.
And this would be the mini confession a Joseon King would say to his Queen. In absence of true ‘romantic love’ that was terribly frowned upon, this could have been considered as close to a confession from a stuck up prince as possible.
Jay Yi of course, is a woman who needs words that are said ‘properly, with length, complexity and detail’… 😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe I’m dense too, because I didn’t see a confession in this scene 😂 I just saw two souls that understand each other so deeply it goes beyond romantic love 😅
Nah! I think it was not romantic per se, but rather a bond that stemmed from a deep need for each other. This is what makes their relationship so beautiful and fulfilling. They understood each other, even when they were upset. For example, he knew she was distressed, and he went into her room because he knew she was in pain and would never asked for help. Jay Yi also is someone who does not speak about her deeper feelings lightly or share as much of what she feels, even though she is articulate about everything else.
” I will gladly protect you with all my strength”. That is a love confession. Coded of course. But the man protects his family and the ones he loves. It’s an offer to be responsibly for her and her happiness.
I like that this show gives us very calm characters. They are calm because they believe in their righteousness. I like how he says it simply that he’s innocent, just like she is.
This scene was the epitome of her showing her feelings and him trying to suppress his own. Wowza. 🫠 How he could refrain from returning that hug automatically is just ingrained self-restraint. I bet he very much wished that he could.
Very much wished that he could.. But also what he thinks of, and looks to, is the Sergeant. He is caught between wanting to return the hug, not being able to ( as the Crown Prince) and not being able to ( as the friend of the Sergeant)
Myungjin’s happy knowing someone loves him for who he is 😍
I remember the first time I watched OBY, I laughed out loud at PHS delivering this line 🤣 How can he make us laugh with a simple line like this, while his face remains perplexed, I don’t know 😂
I dont have the self control to deliver funny lines in a serious face. and yet I want to do stand-up… hopeless. I need PHS tutoring though I wonder if I would just grin through the whole thing
I know we are all getting a little tired of his laugh but at least it’s a happy fun laugh unlike the Rt Minister who I just have to Ff through at this point 🤣😫
i think it is a laughter that briefly allows peoplr to relax, and takr mind off heavy stuff. When you cant hep but think, “ah, ok, im going to endure this bc it signals safe moments”
Our Blooming Youth- Episode 13 My Title: Tae Kang’s Eyes
The fun part about posting late is that I already know your feelings about the episode. And my opinion is going against the majority, because I love Tae Kang and His Eyes!!
Our Guardian Warrior has impressed me from the beginning. And as the show has grown and developed, so has his role and his acting. Ep. 13 was when his place in the show is really becoming established. And mystery is starting to surround him.
We see that he is completely devoted to the CP. Their’s is a much deeper relationship than most- more to come later in the show.
“I love that he asks permission- “”Please excuse my rudeness”” as he tackles JY and takes away the sword she had. He knows that the CP has some crazy feelings for her, so he is very respectful. Even if he doesn’t understand. ”
Tae Kang and Jae Yi are playing he said she said
she says he is bad- he says she is guilty and shouldn’t be around
she knows his eyes, she saw them under the mask- he said I was with the prince- in the Palace, hunting grounds
she says he started the fire and gave the snake to the shaman- he said he is the CP protector and friend.
And then the game switches to the CP and JY
she said please believe me- he said it is impossible. I am the proof that he is innocent.
Our Tae Kang has his own internal dialogue going on- she is a women?? How long has the CP knows?? That’s why she has the private room?? Did she really kill her family??
When you add in his sarcasm, dislike for JY and smile he really is a great character.
His story is key for the rest of the show. I like that it is fairly unique. And for a young man of 21 when they filmed this, I am glad that the director took a chance on him. It’s really his first main role. I look forward to seeing him in other productions.
Maybe @seeker or @clare2009 could post a great picture of his eyes for me. I did on my fan page, but still don’t know how to here.
13 was such a fantastic episode, I need to add one thing I loved about the CP
Because you came:
I could come to my painful place- on mountain
I gained strength to fight against my fate
I could come out in the world and meet people- my people who I will protect.
“Episode 14- “”My heart will still be here, unchanging…..”” Lyrics from song in episode”
Outstanding lines: The writing is sooo good in this show
Jae-Yi!
You came to the East
Even if you kick me out
Loyalty test passed!
I was glad you worried
I never regretted it, even if I could go back in time, I still would have come to you. It was the only decision I made as a woman that I would never regret.
You fall in love with your heart.
It is someone very stupid I always send sparks with loving looks, but he has no idea!! (Pang Pang with fingers)
I know some folks weren’t impressed by this kid’s acting, but I thought he absolutely did his job and I really liked his role! He was never jarring or took me out of the scene or anything, and alongside really fantastic acting, that’s all I’m really asking for.
Agree that there were some incredible lines in these episodes!
I actually didn’t mind him at all. He was surrounded by such pure talent that his lack of acting didn’t matter at all. And his chemistry with all the actors is great, and his quips with Jay Yi was a highlight. He is very young and very raw, and has a long time to get better and grow, especially if he works hard. Taecyeon can’t act either, but he is absolutely adorable.
@claire2009 Oh my heart! The cinematography of this series will kill me. What a perfect construction of frame…..Thank you, you are such a sweetheart Claire!
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Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 9:54 AM
OUR BLOOMING YOUTH DB Group Watch/rewatch/binge-watch
Episodes 13 & 14
Episode 13 and 14 remain the highlight of my Our Blooming Youth watching experience.
These two episodes are difficult to summarise because they are an emotion.
For me the highlights were:
1) Hwan’s beautiful confessions. The man has now come to terms with the fact that he truly loves this woman. He wants her by his side. He does not yet know how he is going to accomplish it. He has deep romantic feelings, but his uncompromising moral compass keeps him in dilemma and ambiguity.
He is also torn between treating her like a woman and treating her as an equal (as in a man). Interestingly, he did not intervene when Tae Kang took her down. He let Tae Kang do his job in the absence of clarity, but later, he believed Jay Yi even though her memories made no sense to him. I loved it even more when he showed complete faith in her ability to tackle assassins.
Yet when she is distressed, he goes for that oh! so! delicious wrist-grab, until she protests. And then comes one of the most beautiful confessions, which was not even supposed to be a confession (this girl is in for a lifetime of poetry, I tell you).
But it’s his gaze – goodness heavens – if a gaze could melt ice and enflame embers, this would be it. The first one comes when he comes around and yay! finally handholds (and she in turns keeps the hand in a vice grip lol!) and then he turns on that gaze. How did she not become a puddle of water?
The second one is when she sleeping on the desk, exhausted. That almost-touch was equal to a hundred hugs. It sizzled and burned. This show took slow burn to the next level. And then he turned on that gaze.
2) Jay Yi’s hug: Need I say more? Everyone went – what happened? But I guess Hwan attributed that to her usual non-conformist attitude and distress. Still…..wow.
3) When he called her name…..I remember getting goosebumps. I still do.
4) I wish I didn’t have to see all that cackling.
5) It had some tough moments. To see a family massacred is stuff nightmares are made of. Kudos to the director for having the guts to show something so gut-wrenching.
6) The humour of course, continues. Hwan is jealous of himself… hahaha!! It’s one of my favourite funny sequences. Damn! No one, truly no one does comedy better.
7) The story now gallops towards the unpleasant realities.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 9:57 AM
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:48 AM
Thank you for hosting us and preparing such a wonderful gif. Your comments perfectly capture the essence of these episodes. They are indeed an emotion.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:48 AM
^^ @amany
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April 25, 2024 at 11:58 AM
me!
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 3:22 PM
Dang! I missed tagging you, sorry Cecile!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 5:54 PM
♥️😘
redfox
April 25, 2024 at 2:24 PM
i finished but im here.
Hwan is one of the warmest royals of recent times. boy feels more like Gandhi such attentive, thoughtful and kind spirit
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 3:23 PM
@redfox I am sure I had an updated list somewhere. I think I used an old tag list. Sorry to have missed you!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 5:56 PM
He’s a pacifist for sure! 😊
Healer’s
April 25, 2024 at 5:59 PM
@skiee @mazarin
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:02 PM
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Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 6:58 PM
I am sure I noted this somewhere and I don’t know how I lost it.
23new2kdrama
April 27, 2024 at 3:30 PM
Thanks for this! It’s awesome to see it growing!!
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 27, 2024 at 3:20 PM
@skiee @23new2kdrama @amany @mazarin @ceciliedk @seeker @redfox
Just wanted to say sorry for missing to tag you people. 🙏
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 27, 2024 at 6:43 PM
Gwaenchanha Gwaenchanha
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 27, 2024 at 7:09 PM
❤️😂❤️
Skiee
April 27, 2024 at 9:27 PM
❤️❤️❤️
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 10:59 AM
Unaspirated
April 25, 2024 at 3:12 PM
My favorite is his quick blink in the 4th gif down – I don’t think she actually spit when she said those words but she might as well have for his reaction!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:03 PM
acting is about reacting. For sure, one can *see* her dialogues by just looking at his face!!! 🥰😍 Confused, bewildered, befuddled in not how uri Seja Jeoha is but Hwan is definitely a fool for love. 😜
Unaspirated
April 26, 2024 at 4:56 AM
Guillermo del Toro says that movies [or shows] are made up of *looks* (which is never more evident for me than when I’m watching Pan’s Labyrinth) and it’s something I think kdramas in general, and PHS in particular, totally excel at.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 6:02 AM
I’ve read actors talking g about how once they “nail” the look they are able to get into that character.
Koalatown
April 27, 2024 at 11:48 AM
Yup. Like she snarled at him 🤣. I found it quite funny how dense he is and how bold she became to just say it all (except who it is). I do believe he only thinks in his wildest dreams would this person who has told him he’s less attractive than her fiancé and wants to be the head eunuch would ever like him especially since he’s basically off limits to anyone who doesn’t fit the strict requirements for a crown princess.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 9:21 AM
It’s funny how he tries to suppress himself, just giving her that sulking hurtful look, but then has to burst out asking her who could it be 😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 9:41 AM
He can’t even *pretend* to be cool about it. His nonchalance doesn’t even last a second.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:20 AM
This of course is the confession!! 😍♥️
https://www.tumblr.com/dramashii/712819569892442112/i-have-feelings-for-someone-else-im-not-saying
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 11:31 AM
Why, o why is he so dum dum?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:37 AM
They made it a running gag. Each scene of CP’s increasing frustration and bewilderment is my favorite. Without spoilers – he cracks me up each time when he wonders *who* could she be seeing.
Nefret
April 25, 2024 at 1:53 PM
The first time I found it funny, but later I was only slightly annoyed because I had the impression that the writers were obsessively trying to drag out this one storyline.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:08 PM
In their defense they had 20 episodes. 😊 I agree that from a strictly script point of view it dragged quite a bit and made Hwan a lovestruck fool. 💘 But (Sawry not Sorry) Park Hyung-sik cracked me up every single time. 🤣🤣🙃
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 6:58 PM
I actually liked it. So much better than no-reason angst of lovers who can/cannot be lovers. They not only turned it into humour, it also maintained his status quo with Jay Yi without getting too mauldin. I mean he is to be married soon, and it can’t be the best news for two people in love.
DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
April 25, 2024 at 12:03 PM
The last of those gifs … he can look so dreamy and so dumb at one time. 😂😍😂😍
23new2kdrama
April 25, 2024 at 12:55 PM
Of course him being clueless is the highlight of this part. I believe we are many women watching this right now. And we all shake our head- yes, yes- I believe this could happen haha. Poor men, do they get tired of this??
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:09 PM
I say his expressions are pure gold and it was a fun way to expose the ONE chink in his armor.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:50 PM
Oh he has plenty of chinks lol! I loved uri flawed Crown Prince, the present king of dumassyness and future king of Joseon 😀
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:43 AM
I like the Soon Dol and Tae Gang interactions. Despite her accusations he not only apologized to her in the library but also was very empathetic with her predicament.
Of course Jae-yi pointing out the books with her leg (coz pointing with the finger would be a waste of energy) was just such a Jae-yi move.
redfox
April 25, 2024 at 2:18 PM
I thought Tae Gang very wooden at first but it dawned that this boy grew up in a strict role as warrior and bodyguard and he has no idea how to really be smooth with people. I no longer think it is the acting that is wooden, but the character is supposed to be like that. frankly, later, when he tells Yae ji that it is his first time to meet a lady who doesnt fit in womans clothes and tsk tsks judgingly … lol. and he can be opinionated in a very, how to say, hasty and nonchalant way. so, I grew kind of fond of this lil Pinocchio.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:12 PM
It was a difficult role to pull off for sure. It could be too charismatic but just enough to be swift and agile and a warrior, intelligent enough to carry out Seja Jeoha’s order and as world wise as a solider is supposed to be … basically brawn over brains.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:14 PM
His interactions with Jae-yi always had that irritating elder brother vibe. And he’s never forgotten their first meeting and her well-aimed kick. 🤣
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:07 PM
I still think this kid was wooden, though he did have great chemistry with both Hwan and Jay Yi. His eyes are rather flat, and his role needed a little more emoting later in the series. The reason I say this is because if you watch Choi Byung-chan in King’s Affection, very similar role with very similar motivations, and that kid aced it. However, Tae Kang grows on you and he has a very sweet smile.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:26 PM
And I can’t help but compare – PHS was same age as this kid in Sirius, where he played a double role. He was better than the adult actor in that series. Even if you don’t want to watch the entire thing, just watch the first 10 minutes of every episode just to see a very young Park blow two complicated characters out of the park.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lli3-LcEfMU
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 7:34 PM
Won’t agree with the wooden part
… just a little bit forgiving about it because of that connect with the OTP. Of course a good actor (or even a halfway decent one) would have been welcome. In the beginning that one note expression was okay but later it became tedious. Eye acting is a pro level move much used in sageuks. I doesn’t hurt that he looks good standing with Park Hyung-sik – who knows perhaps he picked a tip or two about acting. 😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 7:53 PM
* won’t disagree 🤦♀️
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 8:02 PM
😂😂😂 Cera I read that first line. Then read the rest. Then re-read the first line, then reread everything, and I was still trying to figure out when the tubelight came on 😂😂😂😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 9:59 PM
🙈
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 4:33 AM
Same, Minnie 😅 And then I exhaled in relief when I saw Cera’s correction 🤣
redfox
April 26, 2024 at 1:11 AM
@minniegupta1 yes, he is a little bit wooden, but I kind of started routing for the character more because of it. He´ll get better I´m sure. Hwaiting
Park Hyung Sik is a method actor so, he said in some interviews too that he delves quite deep into the thoughts of his character and tries to imagine their mind process, then implant it in his own mind and just flow with it. I think how people evolve in their profession is different and some reach some goalposts faster bc of their method but I have faith in all of them. I really want to follow this kids´ career and see him improve.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 1:47 AM
The King and Woody
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:53 AM
His smile though is electric.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 9:55 AM
Perfect for a toothpaste ad.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:46 AM
We have seen Hwan cry before (both times in front of his father) but this time when he suspects that both Jae-yi and the Sergeant have died his crying howls were heart wrenching. 😭
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 6:28 AM
Yes, he truly broke down. It felt so raw. That hope and that look when he realises they are alive….
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 6:58 AM
Also that “unspoken gwaenchanha” before dropping faint from loss of blood. It really struck home how hard their lives were and even a small injury if untreated could result in death.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 7:31 AM
His after injury takes were incredibly authentic. For the first time I saw an actor ‘actually’ looking sick in a k-drama.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 7:56 AM
At the same time Jae-yi who had injured her leg rather badly was hopping about and beating up
thugseununchs who were testing her loyalty.Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:51 AM
Remember she ran on it? Like she sprinted and flew into his – well, not arms, though I am sure as you mentioned earlier, it must have taken a superhuman effort not to engulf her back.
They really look good together.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 9:57 AM
Also he didn’t really object to or was surprised by the hug but took it surprising well. 😂
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 9:30 AM
The way he held onto Jaeyi’s last belonging is so heart wrenching. It carried all his feeling for her that hasn’t been uttered.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 9:40 AM
And those two arrows piercing the bag and the blood spattered on the cliff also pierced his heart and smashed it to smithereens. He must have taken out the arrows because later the bag was just bloodied.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:54 AM
That’s a great observation.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 11:52 AM
I like the scene where Hwan and Jae-yi go to the place where the previous CP used to take Hwan. His declaration that “I will protect my people… with you” is a perfect continuation of their pervious promise to protect each other.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 1:45 PM
That’s my favourirte confession scene. To b honest, that is how a love confession would like to Confucian ears. I am sure they did not utter the word love lightly, or even ever. So the fact that Jay Yi knew he was in love with her was quite evident, though she kept it hidden. It was only when she thought she would lose him did her patience break.
It also would be why she does not name him and His Dumbness can’t read the air.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:16 PM
OMG Minnie – His Dumbness – hahaha.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 4:36 AM
😆😆😆
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 11:44 AM
Though I have to say – there was so much angst in his one line – “You should never have come to me -”
Darn. That hit home. His entire burlap sac of his feelings encapsulated in that one line.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 11:48 AM
Also 180° turn from his midnight musings when he had kicked her out of the palace – when he said – I’ve waited my whole life for someone like you. ♥️🥰
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 12:00 PM
As @jls943 rightly pointed out, his war within himself for Jay Yi is delicious.
DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
April 25, 2024 at 12:05 PM
I think I tagged people, but for whom hasn’t seen it, I made a couple of gifs and posted them while waiting impatiently for this space to open. Here are they:
https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1569317/
Midnight
April 25, 2024 at 12:17 PM
I LOVED that frustrated confession scene!!! 🤣 It was sooo funny and felt so real!!
I like that for once the king went to see for himself, and immediately threw everybody out. Yes sir, that is how you king.
Unaspirated
April 25, 2024 at 3:27 PM
Right? He knew the cackling minister wouldn’t have done that for no reason, so he threw everyone out so he could find out what really happened. Good thing!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 6:20 PM
It seemed like such an uncharacteristic move. But very well done. 👏
He’s already planning to reduce the Cho family’s influence by having a wife for Hwan from another family. Visiting the Prime Minister’s house would also be pretty unprecedented IMO.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:43 PM
I think by this time the King is indeed losing his shit.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 8:00 PM
Seriously, it was so funny. How does he not even think once it could be him? Like he is the one sitting on her bed while she is talking to him in that same eunuch uniform.
23new2kdrama
April 25, 2024 at 12:47 PM
I’m playing catch-up. Please take a look at these links for my posts for the past 4 espisodes. Even though I’m late I would still love your feedback if you have time.
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/Seeker/activity/1562528/?nid=4962167&nidwpc=1565237#acomment-1565237
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/claire2009/
Our dear PHS sang a beautiful song on the OST. I like this video from YouTube because it has the English also
https://youtu.be/9raHP07JzPg?si=LEZMCq2-agUFzX4B
I’m going to re-watch the next four episodes before I write my thoughts for 13-16.
23new2kdrama
April 25, 2024 at 2:29 PM
Having a really hard time getting a good link to @claire2009. I’m just going to post this here. Maybe the server gods are mad at all of her pictures🤣
Episode 11 and 12- My Title: If you Lack Compassion, You are not Human. Put compassion into Action!
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/claire2009/
Link to our amazing Claire and her review and photos
I’m going to say right up front that I felt both 11 and 12 were a bit flat. With 20 episodes, they can’t all be perfect. To me these were filler- but when this amazing cast is on the screen who can really complain. There was a lot of background about the past and the Village that was destroyed. I also can’t stand time wasted for plot sake- 1 month in the room for the Crown Prince??? I understand the point at the end. I would have been happy if we could have seen a daily account of the development of the relationship between TG and CP but no, just wasted time. I usually have a hard time with the family parts of Dramas and the King didn’t help me change my mind in this one. I see the story, but would like it to be shorter. This is about when I start thinking it should have had less episodes. But after reading all of the great comments from my fellow watch beanies I was reminded why overall this was such a great show-the Fab 4. How can you go wrong with this team!!
Now that I got that off my chest-
There was some great development of the friendship. Thank you for having that part to look forward to Writer/Director.
Sargeant wins the award for eye rolls in this show!
Best Part of the Show for Me- Shadows! And she does it not once but lots. To me this expresses everything we love about this couple. She is headstrong, but soft and playful, he thinks he is in charge, but loves everything she does. She wins and I love it.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 3:26 PM
So beautifully said @23new2kdrama
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 9:33 AM
I’ve been having trouble accessing my fanwall too. It’s so frustrating that I had to ask if anyone was having the same problem on the main page. I couldn’t even get to my fanwall to ask that.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:13 PM
Hwan: I can’t sing.
And out comes one of the best OSTs out there. This is such a beautiful song and it grows on you. I have been listening to it since it was released and I never tire of listening to it. His range and that sooting melodious voice never gets old. I am not as big a fan of his other songs, but I love Bud.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 7:36 PM
💯 I was so hoping Hwan would be “convinced” to sing!
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 8:27 PM
Did you know, when this episode came out, I didn’t know Hyung Sik could sing (had no clue he was an idol). I think it was one of the beanies who mentioned something about his 3+ octaves (I think it was @Gikata) that clued me in.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 25, 2024 at 10:03 PM
Gosh! You were really a muggle back then! Kekekeke!
You have really come far *pats head lovingly* good job!! 👍
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 6:26 AM
Oh, my ‘muggleness’ didn’t go away until I heard him doing that ‘Do Intern’ in Bong Soon. I am sure my face was priceless because I didn’t believe it was his voice 😂😂😂
You can’t blame me though, What Happens To My Family preceded this. How would I know he made an effort to sound so terrible in that family karaoke? 😂😂
Gikata
April 26, 2024 at 6:54 AM
Yep, likely me it was))) Btw, he wasn’t just any idol – he was THE main vocalist in his group. Tho they had a few of them – another one would be ML of GORYEO-KHITAN WAR – and he quickly became more known for other things than his singing, which is why not many these days are aware of this.
P.S. Anyone needs recommendations from good ol’ idol days? As much as I appreciate his OSTs, there were some real bangers way before that…
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 6:59 AM
Oh! I totally blame you. Don’t you know it’s a trope to have idols sing embarrassingly BAD in dramas.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 7:01 AM
Tut tut. *shakes head in
mockdespair at to HOW MUCH I have to teach this muggle*🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 7:01 AM
* as to
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 7:03 AM
Any / All recommendations from you are always welcome @Gikata 😘
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 7:26 AM
Dang! Looks like I am still a muggle 🤦♀️ Lead vocalist? GKW guy is his bandmate? Wow.
It would be lovely to see if he has sung something good. His OSTs are good, actually some of them quite memorable, but not something I would like to listen to all the time. I like the SWDBS OST, but mostly for the way he sang it rather the actual music.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 7:37 AM
@seeker Sissennim, I defer to you respectfully *folds hands and bows* ❤️❤️❤️
In Doctor Slump he was bad in that karaoke bar until in one small segment he forgot to be bad 😂😂😂😂😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 7:50 AM
I hope you’ve heard of *cough* Im Si-wan *cough*.
Google is your friend, my friend.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 7:54 AM
Ah! I can’t even pretend to teach a teacher, can I now!! 🙃
Yeah … it is very difficult to sing / dance bad for an idol which the dramas force them to do. 🤦♀️🤷♀️
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:44 AM
@seeker: I only know of Si-wan and that too because I watched him. There is another guy I know of but cannot remember the name – the one who took PHS’s recent interview and keeps hugging him while PHS looks quite pained 😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 9:48 AM
You mean his band member?
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 10:32 AM
@seeker Yes, I believe so.
I am such a bad k-pop follower – if you asked me, I can only name three, maybe four out of seven BTS members. ZE-A is from another planet 😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 10:43 AM
I generally don’t see much promotional/ variety shows and prefer the “undiluted” drama experience as I find it’s a rabbit hole difficult to get out from.
But I do respect and appreciate our multi-talented artists. Like Byeon Woo-seok who has actually sung the songs in Carry Sun-Jae and Run or Kim Min-jae who actually played the piano in Do You Like Brahms.
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 1:47 PM
Oh @seeker you got my attention!!! Kim Min Jae is a fantastic pianist and singer. I read once online that someone said he learned to play for Brahms- not true. But he did practice a lot!! He’s got some great songs out there. Many of him rapping as that was his direction for awhile. It’s his musical talents that gave him the opportunity to serve now in the Army military band. And then we get to see him💜💜💜
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
April 26, 2024 at 6:09 PM
I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that video of Kim Min-jae playing Traumerei. Also where he’s playing live in some show.
Park Eun-bin learned to play violin for her role but as you said Min-jae practiced really really hard and could play ALL the pieces in the show flawlessly.
Neolttwigi
April 27, 2024 at 9:57 PM
We (husband and I) got really excited at ‘Do Intern’ and immediately looked up his music- and were really disappointed. Croony music not for us. Which is not trying to be negative, its great that so many people Like it- its just that we would really love to hear him sing some Opera! ( or even Queen!)
Unaspirated
April 25, 2024 at 3:34 PM
These are some of my favorite episodes too. The anguish when Hwan thought his loved ones were dead, Jae-i’s desperation to find him despite being hurt, her hug when they found him wandering in despair, him calling her real name, her confession, their total trust in each other. This honestly didn’t even feel like a slow-burn romance to me, because it was so clear that they were aware of their own feelings, even if they weren’t fully aware of each other’s. Watching Hwan war with himself because he doesn’t feel allowed to love his best friend’s betrothed is so delicious.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:16 PM
It’s so poignant and was beautifully done. It’s possibly my favourite romance, despite seeing some truly great romances before and since, my feelings towards this couple hasn’t changed.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 8:24 PM
I had posted this earlier, but I wanted to post it here too:
Why Hwan might not consider it’s him……
The archaic bottling up of sexual desire was a trumped up virtue in most Eastern societies. The wives living completely separate from husbands and not able to meet them at will seems so ridiculous today but that’s how this Prince was brought up, so him trampling down on any of these ‘ghastly’ feelings probablyi another of his ‘virtue’ he is so proud of holding.
What I love about this show is the consistency of characters shown.
Jay Yi on her behalf has given plenty of hints she is interested in him, but they have been too subtle (even for us audience). So when she hugs him, and knows that he would be waiting in th east, he is thrilled. Yet he does not read anything into it.
Thing is, Hwan is used to Jay-yi being ….. Jay-yi. She keeps doing most unconventional things – she gets drunk (the first sticker shock for our very uptight and prudish prince), and she has actually spoken to him about ‘ghastly’ things like ‘kissing’ and ‘smelling’ and ‘checking the guy out before spending rest of the her life in her husband’s bed’ in a complete drunken state – and yet at one poignant moment when he lets his guard down and tells her she could have asked him to buy her ribbons, she is shocked that he could even think she would ask something so personal from him – so Jay-yi too has gone above and beyond to maintain the very personal distance of physical intimacy in a sexual form. She is in a very intimate setting with him everyday – she dresses him up – and yet she is all professional.
Just not that. She holds the royal guard by collar. He does not even blink before taking her flying into the mountains to chase the male assasins. She tosses Eunuchs around and soundly beats them up for their transgression.
Nothing that Jay-yi has done in his eyes points at anything but her being the first order of servant at his feet. So when she finally tells him she is in love, he cannot bring himself to even consider himself – the girl would not even have him hold her hand or tell him that she wanted ribbons……consistency.
Coupled with the fact he seldom lets his guard down around her, he is almost afraid that on misstep from him might make him lose her. He is so desperately friend zoning her, it’s heartbreakingly funny. The only time he truly let his guard down is when he sees her sleeping – that gentle reaching out to touch her broke my heart (and that typical PHS look, someone kill me please) . He looks at her unguardedly for the very first time, before he calls out her name. That scene is so beautifully done.
Jay yi though knows her Prince has fallen for her, and her exasperation at his denseness is endearing and hilarious. “One who keeps coming in and out of palace’ – I laughed so hard at that.
Healer’s
April 25, 2024 at 6:02 PM
Thank you, Minnie, for the beautifully written post.
I’m a sucker for slow-burn romance and OBY masterfully delivered it!!
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 7:16 PM
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Skiee
April 25, 2024 at 9:32 PM
My favorite two episodes..I love every part of it..the hug and when hwan calls her name..it felt so intimate
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 25, 2024 at 10:11 PM
Intimate is the right word.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 2:04 AM
A brief moment of skinship, @ceciliedk
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 11:32 AM
And the one in which he lifts her chin so he can tend to her hairline scratch personally….😂
A future royal highness’ face can’t be marred.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 2:43 AM
The conversation on this hilltop is my favourite. The cinematography of this scene is wallpaper worthy. It creates a sense of how small humans are to nature and the endless flow of time. After all, personal power and greed are just short lived things compared to the existance of a kingdom that is grounded from generation to generation by ordinary people. This scene induces in me a calm feeling just like when I watch the sunset on my way home every day.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 6:59 AM
I have loved this scene so very much. Your words are so true. This scene painted the larger picture so effectively.
And this would be the mini confession a Joseon King would say to his Queen. In absence of true ‘romantic love’ that was terribly frowned upon, this could have been considered as close to a confession from a stuck up prince as possible.
Jay Yi of course, is a woman who needs words that are said ‘properly, with length, complexity and detail’… 😂😂😂😂😂
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 9:43 AM
Maybe I’m dense too, because I didn’t see a confession in this scene 😂 I just saw two souls that understand each other so deeply it goes beyond romantic love 😅
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:58 AM
Nah! I think it was not romantic per se, but rather a bond that stemmed from a deep need for each other. This is what makes their relationship so beautiful and fulfilling. They understood each other, even when they were upset. For example, he knew she was distressed, and he went into her room because he knew she was in pain and would never asked for help. Jay Yi also is someone who does not speak about her deeper feelings lightly or share as much of what she feels, even though she is articulate about everything else.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 10:28 AM
When I said nah, I forgot to quote you –
You are dense in grey cells ❤️❤️❤️
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:59 AM
I think the OST ‘Bud’ was very carefully written, keeping them in mind.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:27 PM
That song is ethereal. And PHS sings it so beautifully.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 3:47 PM
Agree. There is something so other wordly about that song. It’s not catchy, but once you are hooked, it stays.
Neolttwigi
April 27, 2024 at 10:02 PM
” I will gladly protect you with all my strength”. That is a love confession. Coded of course. But the man protects his family and the ones he loves. It’s an offer to be responsibly for her and her happiness.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 2:50 AM
Taekang’s moments
He’s obviously still traumatised LOL
I like that this show gives us very calm characters. They are calm because they believe in their righteousness. I like how he says it simply that he’s innocent, just like she is.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 2:54 AM
Garam’s and Myungjin’s moments
The way Myungjin walks in LOL
and walks out LOL
Unaspirated
April 26, 2024 at 5:36 AM
Literally sitting at my desk at work trying not to laugh too loudly at Myung-jin 🤣🤣🤣
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 2:56 AM
Nothing to say here except that there’s too much handsomeness in a scene 😅
Skiee
April 26, 2024 at 3:04 AM
True 💯😂
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 6:40 AM
When you go out to catch someone with your traffic stopping beauty, chances of your success are ‘wild’…😅
Sargent’s army would have drawn less attention 😂😂
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 9:44 AM
Ok by now I can see that the cameraman loved PHS 😂
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 9:48 AM
See?? It never fails. The amount of close ups this guy gets in insane 😂😂 Even when it’s not his scene, they still somehow end up focussing on him 😂😂😂
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 4:45 PM
Love this scene💚💚💚 I want a field with a guy in it- not with arrows but you know….
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:03 AM
I like how the whole fighting and reunion sequences were filmed, it’s woeful and majestic at the same time. And bravo Jaeyi, she can fight!!
sonai
April 26, 2024 at 3:26 AM
This scene was the epitome of her showing her feelings and him trying to suppress his own. Wowza. 🫠 How he could refrain from returning that hug automatically is just ingrained self-restraint. I bet he very much wished that he could.
Awesome GIFs & clips again, thank you, @seeker @minniegupta1 @claire2009 !!!! 👏🫰👏🥳
☕️☕️☕️
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 10:30 AM
Sigh!! It has got so much feelz…seriously…
Neolttwigi
April 27, 2024 at 10:06 PM
Very much wished that he could.. But also what he thinks of, and looks to, is the Sergeant. He is caught between wanting to return the hug, not being able to ( as the Crown Prince) and not being able to ( as the friend of the Sergeant)
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:09 AM
Fangirl mode ON 😅
sonai
April 26, 2024 at 3:19 AM
This was very sweet indeed! 👏🫰👏
Unaspirated
April 26, 2024 at 5:38 AM
If PHS ever called my name, I would not have kept it together as well as she did.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:09 AM
Myungjin’s happy knowing someone loves him for who he is 😍
I remember the first time I watched OBY, I laughed out loud at PHS delivering this line 🤣 How can he make us laugh with a simple line like this, while his face remains perplexed, I don’t know 😂
redfox
April 26, 2024 at 5:05 AM
I dont have the self control to deliver funny lines in a serious face. and yet I want to do stand-up… hopeless. I need PHS tutoring though I wonder if I would just grin through the whole thing
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 7:10 AM
This guy has to be funny in real life. You cannot deadpan this successfully if you are not 😂😂😂
Unaspirated
April 26, 2024 at 5:39 AM
His reactions to Myung-jin just get better and better! I snorted when he said this!
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 4:43 PM
I know we are all getting a little tired of his laugh but at least it’s a happy fun laugh unlike the Rt Minister who I just have to Ff through at this point 🤣😫
redfox
April 26, 2024 at 8:39 PM
i think it is a laughter that briefly allows peoplr to relax, and takr mind off heavy stuff. When you cant hep but think, “ah, ok, im going to endure this bc it signals safe moments”
23new2kdrama
April 27, 2024 at 1:02 PM
Great insight!!
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:12 AM
Hwan doesn’t bother hiding he’s proud of Jaeyi. I feel for those eunuchs if Jaeyi really became the head eunuch 😁
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 7:10 AM
Poor guys, forever scarred.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:19 AM
And like that, she calls out the dimwit in him 🤣😂
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 11:40 AM
I mean, she literally serves herself on a platter – Will you really be ok if I went and married the Sargent? And he hedges.
Serves him right 😂
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 3:28 AM
Someone’s still bitter LOL
I haven’t seen this walk in any other actors apart from PHS LOL
Jaeyi be like “How much dumber can he get?” LOL
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 7:08 AM
And I love how indiscriminating he is when he lists the possibilities. And she is like ‘a eunuch? Are you crazy?” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 4:39 PM
@claire2009 @minniegupta1 @midnight @sonai @koalatown @nefret @isagc @bebeswtz @skiee @seeker @jls943 @mmmmm
Our Blooming Youth- Episode 13 My Title: Tae Kang’s Eyes
The fun part about posting late is that I already know your feelings about the episode. And my opinion is going against the majority, because I love Tae Kang and His Eyes!!
Our Guardian Warrior has impressed me from the beginning. And as the show has grown and developed, so has his role and his acting. Ep. 13 was when his place in the show is really becoming established. And mystery is starting to surround him.
We see that he is completely devoted to the CP. Their’s is a much deeper relationship than most- more to come later in the show.
“I love that he asks permission- “”Please excuse my rudeness”” as he tackles JY and takes away the sword she had. He knows that the CP has some crazy feelings for her, so he is very respectful. Even if he doesn’t understand. ”
Tae Kang and Jae Yi are playing he said she said
she says he is bad- he says she is guilty and shouldn’t be around
she knows his eyes, she saw them under the mask- he said I was with the prince- in the Palace, hunting grounds
she says he started the fire and gave the snake to the shaman- he said he is the CP protector and friend.
And then the game switches to the CP and JY
she said please believe me- he said it is impossible. I am the proof that he is innocent.
Our Tae Kang has his own internal dialogue going on- she is a women?? How long has the CP knows?? That’s why she has the private room?? Did she really kill her family??
When you add in his sarcasm, dislike for JY and smile he really is a great character.
His story is key for the rest of the show. I like that it is fairly unique. And for a young man of 21 when they filmed this, I am glad that the director took a chance on him. It’s really his first main role. I look forward to seeing him in other productions.
Maybe @seeker or @clare2009 could post a great picture of his eyes for me. I did on my fan page, but still don’t know how to here.
13 was such a fantastic episode, I need to add one thing I loved about the CP
Because you came:
I could come to my painful place- on mountain
I gained strength to fight against my fate
I could come out in the world and meet people- my people who I will protect.
“Episode 14- “”My heart will still be here, unchanging…..”” Lyrics from song in episode”
Outstanding lines: The writing is sooo good in this show
Jae-Yi!
You came to the East
Even if you kick me out
Loyalty test passed!
I was glad you worried
I never regretted it, even if I could go back in time, I still would have come to you. It was the only decision I made as a woman that I would never regret.
You fall in love with your heart.
It is someone very stupid I always send sparks with loving looks, but he has no idea!! (Pang Pang with fingers)
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 26, 2024 at 5:37 PM
I love all the OSTs in this series. But Hoping has a special place because it’s so poignant and beautifully written.
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 7:59 PM
I forgot to thank you for your great insights!! I appreciate the show so much more after reading everyones views
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 7:12 PM
Taekang’s eyes
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 7:26 PM
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 7:59 PM
Thank you thank you!!! He’s gorgeous💙💙💙
23new2kdrama
April 26, 2024 at 8:02 PM
Maybe a young Woo Do Hwan? Maybe that’s why I think that
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 11:06 PM
Many young actors have turned into very charming charismatic main leads later on and I’ll look forward to see how this actor would turn out.
Isa is always time travelling
April 27, 2024 at 3:58 AM
He is a cutie but I think he looks more like a young Li Xian (a chinese actor Who has starred in several c-dramas).
I am looking forward to watching him in more main roles.
Healer’s
April 26, 2024 at 11:04 PM
I liked that scene too, and liked it that Taekang easily took the sword from Jaeyi’s hand. He’s the CP guard after all.
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 27, 2024 at 3:50 AM
She only gets past him if she is sneaky. That was a good thing the show did.
Unaspirated
April 27, 2024 at 4:58 AM
I know some folks weren’t impressed by this kid’s acting, but I thought he absolutely did his job and I really liked his role! He was never jarring or took me out of the scene or anything, and alongside really fantastic acting, that’s all I’m really asking for.
Agree that there were some incredible lines in these episodes!
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 27, 2024 at 11:09 AM
I actually didn’t mind him at all. He was surrounded by such pure talent that his lack of acting didn’t matter at all. And his chemistry with all the actors is great, and his quips with Jay Yi was a highlight. He is very young and very raw, and has a long time to get better and grow, especially if he works hard. Taecyeon can’t act either, but he is absolutely adorable.
Healer’s
April 28, 2024 at 5:31 AM
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Skiee
April 29, 2024 at 11:59 AM
Just wanted to post this edit here..It’s one of my favorite 😍
https://twitter.com/capsaisikii_/status/1715969989495394697?t=KPL7N2PVeBLBjVgMx0vrDg&s=19
Healer’s
April 29, 2024 at 6:13 PM
Wow, amazing editing. I love it!!
Healer’s
April 29, 2024 at 6:10 PM
This shot is spectacular, so I want you to have it, Minnie
Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
April 29, 2024 at 6:56 PM
@claire2009 Oh my heart! The cinematography of this series will kill me. What a perfect construction of frame…..Thank you, you are such a sweetheart Claire!