I was legitimately so excited for this but the first episode was so shallow and juvenile I found myself skipping to the last episode to see what ended up happening. The only thing that stuck out as worthy to me was the leads’ friendship. Ji Soo as an airhead puppy was cute for about five seconds and I’m not sure if it’s the acting skill or just the character that isn’t working out :/
It’s pretty much a rehash of Because This is The First Time starring SHINEE’s Minho and Park So Dam, but…dumber. I mean I can’t really be a fair judge because I only watched two episodes (first and last). I just thought it sucked because they took everything that made the first series so wonderful and replaced it with glitter and sparkles. I get it’s a ‘youth’ drama, but you can have depth while showing the simpleness of young people’s emotions (e.g. Reply 1997)
I’m still gonna tune in to the next season though because the last episode has an open ending and apparently they’ve shot 16 episodes of this (and I need to know if Ji Soo gets the fricking girl because as much as this disappointed me I still shipped the leads, they were cute)
yeah, i “watched” it with the preview button on netflix. i couldn’t believe what i was seeing, ugh. i liked the second couple better than anything in the series, though. i’m thinking i’ll just read comments on how the second part of the season goes, lol.
ryan gold is already softening up in ep 3 but he was such an ass in the first couple of episodes that i can\’t wait for him to fall to the ground and beg deok mi to step on him
yeah I was too quick to post this in the first 10 minutes if the third episode.😅 he already likes her by the end of it, no? which was unconvincing but 🤷♀️
i\’ve spent some time with MotS, listened to it about 4-5 times from start to finish, and the unsettling thing about it was that except for a few parts here and there, it was very hard to remember it was a _BTS_ album unless i actively reminded myself \”oh yes, this is BTS.\” even on Tear, (which I liked) and which some people did not like because it was Pop, you could still tell it was BTS, but here not so much.
i\’m seeing so much love for this album on my twitter and my guess is that a lot of the fans BTS has made since seeping into the american mainstream actually liked them _because_ of their close-to-pop sound, and since this took that to the next step, it makes sense that they\’re so happy.
this is not a comment on the inherent goodness of the musicality of their songs. i don\’t have enough music theory to talk about what works what doesn\’t but just my reaction as a fan on the overall mood of the album.
i\’m all here for bands exploring diverse sounds, be it pop or whichever, and growing musically, but i want to see what makes them _them_ in the new music as well. which is what i think is disappointing about this.
I have to agree. I do think Persona, the intro song, meets the standard. But the rest of it is disconnected – there’s nothing Jungian or philosophical about it. And the songs blend into one another. I do think they needed more time to produce this, and perhaps with all the big name western producers, BTS’s producers weren’t able to exert as much artistic control this time.
maybe that was part of the problem you know? when the title and persona came out i think we all expected it to be a high-concept art album but…. it’s not.
Yeah. I don’t think this is bad music per se. The songs are easy to listen to and I’ve been listening to them aaram se. The problem is my expectations from a BTS album with this Jungian concept were too high
Even as someone who hasn’t listened to a lot of BTS, I thought the same, that it wasn’t very BTS and more an the poppier side. BUT, such is the case of older artists. They sometimes change or try different things over time that might appeal some people/newer fans and totally not to others/older fans.
yeah. it was a bit of a throwback to the last time this happened for me which was with linkin park. i grew up on their hybrid theory/meteora era stuff and listening to their stuff on a thousand suns was a bit of a whiplash. i went back to one more light when i heard the news about chester [=(] and i found that i actually really liked the album even though it was really different from the LP i was used to. i hope in the next few albums BTS continues to explore if that’s what they want, but retain their character a bit more.
LP is my favorite band and a very true statement indeed. Their sound changed and grew, but damn if it still wasn’t good – just evolved. But it was definitely unexpected and in the beginning almost jarring. But, looking back you can see the evolution. (Their last album is amazing btw)
I think it’s expected for groups to change up their sound if they have been around long enough. We would probably be complaining if their sound was still the same saying that all the songs sound alike lol
The LY era marked a change to their sound, I just see Persona as a natural follow up. I listen to BTS because their individual songs speak to me, not because their songs fit into a genre of music I prefer. As long as they keep making music that I enjoy I will keep listening 😊
yeah, we definitely would have complained if their sound had remained the same, lol. it’s true that persona seems like a logical follow up of the LY era ( which i liked) but something about it just didn’t work for my personal taste. maybe i just had too many expectations, idk. i just hope i get to like a future BTS album as much as i liked LP’s last album. ^^
i’m all here for bands exploring diverse sounds, be it pop or whichever, and growing musically, but i want to see what makes them _them_ in the new music as well.
This, this, and this again.
I was just talking about the album with greenfields and sicarius over on greenfields’ fanwall. Kaleidoscopic talked a bit more about the mixing here. So just know that you’re not alone in your disappointment and your feeling that this is a bad album.
i read the discussion on greenfields’ fan wall ( hard agree with everything said there) but just saw the thread on mixing… and yeah… i’m curious where they’ll go from here though, musically.
ok so i watched the first ep of argon and wow, the feels. some journalists are exactly as judgy, idealistic, and even if they\’re great journalists – high-key terrible people to work with (cont)
So I met @greenfields yesterday and it was great fun catching up over tteokbokki and makgeolli!! AND I met other friends (who were into dramas once upon a time) for dinner and had tteokbokki again!
It wasn’t the best drama but I liked it. Probably because it has two of the Model Avengers and I love all of them but oddly enough I haven’t liked but a few of their dramas.
Actually they kind of manage to nullify it. As in, the legal recourse re the step father – step daughter madness is the right path. Also the mum equation.
So it’s kind of fine, but also really weird. 🤣 The drama is alright. Watch it until you can’t.
I enjoyed it, but I still can’t get over how bizarre the OTP was. Like, what? They do try to resolve the stepfather thing during the course of the show, though.
came on DB to indulge in some romance is a bonus book fangirling (and run away from work and to-do list) but love, february posts have made me all senti. T_T
men in dramas are progressive now. The women can’t be cleaning robots ofc – that’s totally backward. But how can the man be the one doing the cleaning? Enter: the cleaning robot! A neat little solution to the problem,
that is usually my answer to everything i see in a drama.. “must be ppl” but some of these have been adapted off webtoons, which means it was a writerly choice (unless webtoons have ppl too? idk)
i always wonder, if love is all about money!
How we must show chaebol and the big emotional gap that a woman will fill.
In reality, a rich guy is a pampered guy. Rich women are exquisitely b’ful too. Rich guy can fall in love with a rich woman. if he is handsome, he is used to women falling for him and probably will be a playboy or experience. He has brain, so in all probability he understands society, humans and has his own point of view on every person he meets. He has lived a good life so probably is an happy person !!! 🙂
i don’t think all rich people are 100% socially functional or even happy. from some people i’ve seen, it’s almost like their basic material needs are met, so rich kids find absurd things to make themselves unhappy with.
rich or poor, everyone has their insecurities and failings, so i am not sure we can come to the conclusion that they understand everything and are happy!
ah!.. i never meant 100%.. but what i mean is that a person does not have to be broken to fall irrevocably in love with someone and neither do all poor girls awesome 🙂
oh man, being on here is making me realise that k drama twitter (as awesome as it is) is nowhere as near active as DB is. *resolves to lurk here more often*
What exactly does kdrama twitter constitute of? I haven’t really seen much hype there. Are there any good accounts/people to follow? DB is a really active place for drama followers.
i had mostly followed beanies’ twitter accounts (there was the mistake cause if they’re on db… they’re posting all the drama content, well, here) and a few accounts that post random screencaps haha
@Ana Thanks for sharing this. 🙂
It’s a great initiative and if you really want to learn Korean language then you should give it a try. It’s good to learn as many language as possible. I’ll give a thought about this too.
that’s such great news…. go for it. and 2500INR is good amount to br invested on a new language… do give it a try.
I am also thinking shall i go for it or not ?
his v-neck shirts are like Jun Ki’s hairstyle in My Girl iconic and forever associated to the drama x)
good watching to you and don’t worry if you start singing “three bears” song too often ^^’
My dad\’s been admitted to a hospital this last week and today a semi-cute doctor walked into the room for Physiotherapy and my mind screamed \”Bedside PT, Ye Seonsaengnim!\” xD
Haha I know! I get glimpses of the different doctors and nurses and keep imagining all the personal drama that must be going on, on top of all the work.
APAD – I was on the island, firmly, and enjoying joo young joo young and dae bang\’s romance, but but but now that one ship has sailed I am _incredibly_ sad about the other left behind. ㅠㅠ
Sa
April 23, 2019 at 10:40 AM
i miss hyung sik (it feels weird to type out that i miss someone don’t actually know? idk)
anyway, here’s a song <3
Bebe | Nessa❣️
April 23, 2019 at 1:38 PM
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
We all miss him to some capacity
Sa
April 18, 2019 at 9:39 AM
is it me or is \’my first first love\’ (jisoo\’s new drama on netflix) really that bad?
dopedramacongratz
April 18, 2019 at 1:00 PM
I was legitimately so excited for this but the first episode was so shallow and juvenile I found myself skipping to the last episode to see what ended up happening. The only thing that stuck out as worthy to me was the leads’ friendship. Ji Soo as an airhead puppy was cute for about five seconds and I’m not sure if it’s the acting skill or just the character that isn’t working out :/
Blue (@mayhemf)
April 18, 2019 at 1:31 PM
Arghh. WhAt a bummer. I needed something light and thought this will do.
dopedramacongratz
April 18, 2019 at 3:20 PM
It’s pretty much a rehash of Because This is The First Time starring SHINEE’s Minho and Park So Dam, but…dumber. I mean I can’t really be a fair judge because I only watched two episodes (first and last). I just thought it sucked because they took everything that made the first series so wonderful and replaced it with glitter and sparkles. I get it’s a ‘youth’ drama, but you can have depth while showing the simpleness of young people’s emotions (e.g. Reply 1997)
I’m still gonna tune in to the next season though because the last episode has an open ending and apparently they’ve shot 16 episodes of this (and I need to know if Ji Soo gets the fricking girl because as much as this disappointed me I still shipped the leads, they were cute)
Sa
April 20, 2019 at 3:44 AM
yeah, i “watched” it with the preview button on netflix. i couldn’t believe what i was seeing, ugh. i liked the second couple better than anything in the series, though. i’m thinking i’ll just read comments on how the second part of the season goes, lol.
wakimary
April 18, 2019 at 3:19 PM
i was so excited i had a reminder for it and five minutes in episode 1 is all too much already i had to stop.
sorry jisoo,noona had to pass this one up.
Sa
April 20, 2019 at 3:44 AM
what a wise decision!
Sa
April 17, 2019 at 10:57 PM
ryan gold is already softening up in ep 3 but he was such an ass in the first couple of episodes that i can\’t wait for him to fall to the ground and beg deok mi to step on him
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
April 18, 2019 at 12:21 AM
For half of ep3 all I did was hope he falls first
Sa
April 18, 2019 at 5:36 AM
yeah I was too quick to post this in the first 10 minutes if the third episode.😅 he already likes her by the end of it, no? which was unconvincing but 🤷♀️
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
April 18, 2019 at 5:48 AM
Maybe? but I’m not feeling it yet. More like there’s another guy that’s interested, I should start marking sort of feeling
Sa
April 18, 2019 at 8:26 AM
yeah, maybe. poor second lead. 🙁 he’s so brawnily wholesome
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
April 18, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Indeed, he’s bound for a heartbreak.
Sa
April 13, 2019 at 12:32 AM
i\’ve spent some time with MotS, listened to it about 4-5 times from start to finish, and the unsettling thing about it was that except for a few parts here and there, it was very hard to remember it was a _BTS_ album unless i actively reminded myself \”oh yes, this is BTS.\” even on Tear, (which I liked) and which some people did not like because it was Pop, you could still tell it was BTS, but here not so much.
i\’m seeing so much love for this album on my twitter and my guess is that a lot of the fans BTS has made since seeping into the american mainstream actually liked them _because_ of their close-to-pop sound, and since this took that to the next step, it makes sense that they\’re so happy.
this is not a comment on the inherent goodness of the musicality of their songs. i don\’t have enough music theory to talk about what works what doesn\’t but just my reaction as a fan on the overall mood of the album.
i\’m all here for bands exploring diverse sounds, be it pop or whichever, and growing musically, but i want to see what makes them _them_ in the new music as well. which is what i think is disappointing about this.
greenfields
April 13, 2019 at 12:58 AM
I have to agree. I do think Persona, the intro song, meets the standard. But the rest of it is disconnected – there’s nothing Jungian or philosophical about it. And the songs blend into one another. I do think they needed more time to produce this, and perhaps with all the big name western producers, BTS’s producers weren’t able to exert as much artistic control this time.
This album is western pop for the western market.
Sa
April 13, 2019 at 1:10 AM
maybe that was part of the problem you know? when the title and persona came out i think we all expected it to be a high-concept art album but…. it’s not.
greenfields
April 13, 2019 at 2:20 AM
Yeah. I don’t think this is bad music per se. The songs are easy to listen to and I’ve been listening to them aaram se. The problem is my expectations from a BTS album with this Jungian concept were too high
Sa
April 13, 2019 at 7:04 AM
yeah. the highs and lows of the fangirl life. sigh.
하데스
April 13, 2019 at 2:44 AM
Even as someone who hasn’t listened to a lot of BTS, I thought the same, that it wasn’t very BTS and more an the poppier side. BUT, such is the case of older artists. They sometimes change or try different things over time that might appeal some people/newer fans and totally not to others/older fans.
Sa
April 13, 2019 at 6:59 AM
yeah. it was a bit of a throwback to the last time this happened for me which was with linkin park. i grew up on their hybrid theory/meteora era stuff and listening to their stuff on a thousand suns was a bit of a whiplash. i went back to one more light when i heard the news about chester [=(] and i found that i actually really liked the album even though it was really different from the LP i was used to. i hope in the next few albums BTS continues to explore if that’s what they want, but retain their character a bit more.
UmbrellaMan
April 13, 2019 at 7:36 AM
LP is my favorite band and a very true statement indeed. Their sound changed and grew, but damn if it still wasn’t good – just evolved. But it was definitely unexpected and in the beginning almost jarring. But, looking back you can see the evolution. (Their last album is amazing btw)
I think it’s expected for groups to change up their sound if they have been around long enough. We would probably be complaining if their sound was still the same saying that all the songs sound alike lol
The LY era marked a change to their sound, I just see Persona as a natural follow up. I listen to BTS because their individual songs speak to me, not because their songs fit into a genre of music I prefer. As long as they keep making music that I enjoy I will keep listening 😊
Sa
April 13, 2019 at 10:59 AM
yeah, we definitely would have complained if their sound had remained the same, lol. it’s true that persona seems like a logical follow up of the LY era ( which i liked) but something about it just didn’t work for my personal taste. maybe i just had too many expectations, idk. i just hope i get to like a future BTS album as much as i liked LP’s last album. ^^
PurpleTeapot
April 13, 2019 at 2:46 AM
This, this, and this again.
I was just talking about the album with greenfields and sicarius over on greenfields’ fanwall. Kaleidoscopic talked a bit more about the mixing here. So just know that you’re not alone in your disappointment and your feeling that this is a bad album.
Sa
April 13, 2019 at 7:03 AM
i read the discussion on greenfields’ fan wall ( hard agree with everything said there) but just saw the thread on mixing… and yeah… i’m curious where they’ll go from here though, musically.
Sa
April 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM
ok so i watched the first ep of argon and wow, the feels. some journalists are exactly as judgy, idealistic, and even if they\’re great journalists – high-key terrible people to work with (cont)
Sa
April 12, 2019 at 11:37 PM
and this is weird but i don’t know if i miss the newsroom _more_ now or if i am relieved i no longer work in one
Sa
April 7, 2019 at 11:27 AM
So I met @greenfields yesterday and it was great fun catching up over tteokbokki and makgeolli!! AND I met other friends (who were into dramas once upon a time) for dinner and had tteokbokki again!
greenfields
April 7, 2019 at 6:08 PM
💕💕💕 hope you had fun here in Mumbai! 😊
Sa
March 26, 2019 at 11:21 AM
me watching the drama the man living in our house: ah this is breezy, a little funny, nice!
male lead at the end of ep1 of to female lead: hi im your stepfather
me:
greenfields
March 26, 2019 at 11:23 AM
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that was definitely one of the WRIEDEST OTPs in drama land.
Sa
March 26, 2019 at 11:25 AM
i’m still like ??? this is the premise of the show?? i don’t know if i should continue watching 🤔
thatstp
March 26, 2019 at 1:27 PM
It wasn’t the best drama but I liked it. Probably because it has two of the Model Avengers and I love all of them but oddly enough I haven’t liked but a few of their dramas.
Ally
March 26, 2019 at 2:47 PM
I kind of liked it too. And the model avengers made it watchable. And Do-han’s first role as well!
Sa
March 26, 2019 at 10:04 PM
ah! okay, with all your endorsements, i will give it a go 😀
greenfields
March 26, 2019 at 6:36 PM
Actually they kind of manage to nullify it. As in, the legal recourse re the step father – step daughter madness is the right path. Also the mum equation.
So it’s kind of fine, but also really weird. 🤣 The drama is alright. Watch it until you can’t.
moana
March 27, 2019 at 4:47 AM
I enjoyed it, but I still can’t get over how bizarre the OTP was. Like, what? They do try to resolve the stepfather thing during the course of the show, though.
Sa
March 13, 2019 at 3:54 AM
OMG OMG OMG OMG ZOMGGGGGG
Just finished Ep 10 of The Light in Your Eyes/Radiant
bam 🐢🐌💖~
March 13, 2019 at 11:11 AM
*hugs you*
*S C R E A M S*
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
March 13, 2019 at 2:24 PM
That’s pretty well everyone else’s reaction, yes
Sa
February 11, 2019 at 9:57 PM
came on DB to indulge in some romance is a bonus book fangirling (and run away from work and to-do list) but love, february posts have made me all senti. T_T
Sa
January 17, 2019 at 4:43 AM
squeeeeeeeee
Sa
November 27, 2018 at 3:09 AM
seriously, what\’s with socially awkward chaebol men and their obsession with cleaning robots in dramas
greenfields
November 27, 2018 at 3:58 AM
men in dramas are progressive now. The women can’t be cleaning robots ofc – that’s totally backward. But how can the man be the one doing the cleaning? Enter: the cleaning robot! A neat little solution to the problem,
alasecond
November 27, 2018 at 5:59 AM
isn’t it PPL.. from gosling to kdramas, all tech products being shown in action 🙂
lol..i’ve been meaning to buy one.. and if i could earn more even driverless car
Sa
November 28, 2018 at 12:09 AM
that is usually my answer to everything i see in a drama.. “must be ppl” but some of these have been adapted off webtoons, which means it was a writerly choice (unless webtoons have ppl too? idk)
Sa
November 28, 2018 at 12:08 AM
hahaha… filed under *sad but true*
alasecond
November 27, 2018 at 5:58 AM
i always wonder, if love is all about money!
How we must show chaebol and the big emotional gap that a woman will fill.
In reality, a rich guy is a pampered guy. Rich women are exquisitely b’ful too. Rich guy can fall in love with a rich woman. if he is handsome, he is used to women falling for him and probably will be a playboy or experience. He has brain, so in all probability he understands society, humans and has his own point of view on every person he meets. He has lived a good life so probably is an happy person !!! 🙂
Sa
November 28, 2018 at 12:16 AM
i don’t think all rich people are 100% socially functional or even happy. from some people i’ve seen, it’s almost like their basic material needs are met, so rich kids find absurd things to make themselves unhappy with.
rich or poor, everyone has their insecurities and failings, so i am not sure we can come to the conclusion that they understand everything and are happy!
alasecond
November 28, 2018 at 7:26 AM
ah!.. i never meant 100%.. but what i mean is that a person does not have to be broken to fall irrevocably in love with someone and neither do all poor girls awesome 🙂
Sa
November 27, 2018 at 2:48 AM
finally watching #TheSmileHasLeftYourEyes and i like how they use different undereye makeup for each eye to make seo in guk look slightly demented
Sa
November 4, 2018 at 11:35 PM
oh man, being on here is making me realise that k drama twitter (as awesome as it is) is nowhere as near active as DB is. *resolves to lurk here more often*
wapz
November 5, 2018 at 3:25 AM
What exactly does kdrama twitter constitute of? I haven’t really seen much hype there. Are there any good accounts/people to follow? DB is a really active place for drama followers.
Sa
November 6, 2018 at 7:03 AM
i had mostly followed beanies’ twitter accounts (there was the mistake cause if they’re on db… they’re posting all the drama content, well, here) and a few accounts that post random screencaps haha
Sa
November 4, 2018 at 11:29 PM
db\’s latest feature on SIG reminded me of this. not a big fan of his other music but this one is a BOP! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NK9tN33ymg
Sa
July 26, 2018 at 5:35 AM
Paging all Indian beanies: what do you think of this? I am wondering if I should give it a go!
Mimu
July 26, 2018 at 5:41 AM
@Ana Thanks for sharing this. 🙂
It’s a great initiative and if you really want to learn Korean language then you should give it a try. It’s good to learn as many language as possible. I’ll give a thought about this too.
greenfields
July 26, 2018 at 6:14 AM
Oh! Nice idea. Distant learning is great! And 2,500 is not much at all!
🧛♂️ 💔💔 but 👧💔💔💔💔
July 26, 2018 at 6:57 AM
that’s such great news…. go for it. and 2500INR is good amount to br invested on a new language… do give it a try.
I am also thinking shall i go for it or not ?
Sa
July 20, 2018 at 10:43 AM
It’s like this pigeon is judging me for watching dramas. WHAT DO YOU KNOW PIGEON. SHOO
Sa
July 20, 2018 at 11:05 AM
Hahah, duly noted, member of the fellowship (which I may join soon given how I’ve given sleep to binge-watch it now)
Sa
June 26, 2018 at 7:37 AM
I am watching Full House (2004), which is on Netflix now, and I feel like Rain\’s chest should get a special casting mention.
Kudo Ran
June 26, 2018 at 7:47 AM
his v-neck shirts are like Jun Ki’s hairstyle in My Girl iconic and forever associated to the drama x)
good watching to you and don’t worry if you start singing “three bears” song too often ^^’
natzillagorilla
June 26, 2018 at 9:56 AM
Truer words!
Sa
June 16, 2018 at 9:31 PM
Binge-watched Just Between Lovers. What a nice drama! *happy sigh*
Sa
June 8, 2018 at 11:37 PM
My dad\’s been admitted to a hospital this last week and today a semi-cute doctor walked into the room for Physiotherapy and my mind screamed \”Bedside PT, Ye Seonsaengnim!\” xD
🧛♂️ 💔💔 but 👧💔💔💔💔
June 8, 2018 at 11:51 PM
Dr. Yeffect….APAD is so deep in our minds..😉😉
Hope your Dad is feeling better and gets well soon…
Sa
June 9, 2018 at 12:46 AM
Haha I know! I get glimpses of the different doctors and nurses and keep imagining all the personal drama that must be going on, on top of all the work.
Thank you! 🙂
Jellybn
June 9, 2018 at 9:01 AM
If only, right! I hope your dad gets better soon!
Sa
June 14, 2018 at 12:11 AM
Thank you! We’re out of the hospital and back home now
Jellybn
June 14, 2018 at 8:31 AM
That’s great!😀
Sa
May 1, 2018 at 10:52 AM
APAD – I was on the island, firmly, and enjoying joo young joo young and dae bang\’s romance, but but but now that one ship has sailed I am _incredibly_ sad about the other left behind. ㅠㅠ