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Beans of Wisdom: 50 sheets of grey

This week in Beans of Wisdom…

Afii asks an important question in comment #13 of “Tomorrow With You: Episode 13”:

I’m sorry to say this, but am i the only one that being bothered to the fact that they have not change their bed sheets? Or they do already change it and i’m being insensitive again? It’s been months, they should change it. Considering that they are pretty “active” in bed.

hyanggi:

I realize they had the same bed sheet even in the future ! When SJ went into the house and tadaa, still the same bed sheet. I guess they just really like that design and went on to buy 5 sets of it .

Amilia:

Maybe Ma Rin strips the bed after So Joon leaves for work, runs a load of laundry, and remakes the bed with the same sheets before So Joon gets home?

Kethy-chan:

lol oh come on guuuuuys!
maybe they simply have 50 of the same set. ha ha ha
it’s a funny comment but about as silly as wondering why the dirt poor girl in a kdrama manages to wear 44 different winter coats through the 24-episode span of the drama. And she never wears them twice!! ha ha ha ha
now THAT’s a real question!

(have a good day, folks)

<3

 

ar writes in “Chief Kim: Episode 16” comment #10:

I loved how they were like “we’ve got licenses”. Kdramas tend to depict characters as incompetent at their jobs or not committed or barely have any real work to do. I really like this depiction of an office where people work hard and are really good at what they do and that’s why they’re there.

WishfulToki:

That is so true. I was distracted by Myung Seok going ‘I have no license, so I’m afraid I can’t help bwahahaaa’ but you are right that Business Operations team is shown as hardworking, honest and competent. Their ongoing rivalry with the snobs in Accounting is a lot of fun. I still yell PIRARUCU every time I see the Accounting lady.

More seriously, I have come to the conclusion that corruption is a team effort. I’m with Yul on this one: it’s ironic/pathetic that those doing the corrupt work actually get little or nothing out of it.

 

While DramaDrama shares an analysis of our favorite bickering duo in #10.1.1.1.1:

Yul. Seems to start out on the “white” side (as a prosecutor) and is now firmly in the “grey” camp. He’s a pragmatist and realist. And, true, he seems to honestly want to fix things but with the pragmatic view that corruption exists but it should be “limited”. He gets exasperated when it goes extreme. He is also shown as someone who has a good idea what the limits are (no thugs, killing etc) and sticks by them.

Kim. He starts out on the “dark” side and gradually moves into the “grey” side. But his motivations appear petty..revenge or to feel good. So his motivation appears to be actually more superficial and it isn’t actually clear that he wants to make TQ a better company.

This cleverly designed drama shows how these two feed off each other to achieve what amounts to the same end goal. Kim finds the bad things and threatens to expose it while Yul works to fix what Kim discovers behind the scenes. Who is right? Neither actually, both have valid viewpoints. Yul thinks it better to quietly fix things but without Kim he would be less effective at pressuring the Chairman to do the right thing. Kim, meanwhile, doesn’t actually fix anything…he just exposes the situation. So neither Kim nor Yul would have been effective individually.

 

In comment #8.1 of “Strong Woman Do Bong-soon: Episode 7,” gadis writes:

I like how grandma view this super strength as a gift, a legacy she needs to pass down to the next generation so that they can do more good things, instead of a curse. And when Bong-soon lament how she didn’t hate the idea of having daughter anymore, it’s like she finally accept and love herself, super strength and all. Love that quiet moment of reflection.

 

While Cooler writes in comment #37:

Min Hyuk clarified his sexuality to the shareholders because–per the show–the rumors regarding his sexuality were having an effect on the company’s stock. While there are many countries that are accepting of homosexuality, I’m not clear why people pretend that’s the case everywhere and act shocked every time it’s presented as anything other than “normal.” Offended, fine. But shocked, nope.

The show is actually pushing acceptance and normalization of homosexuality. Even the two gangstas canoodling on the blanket with obvious sexual interest normalizes the concept for people. And notice, except for a “what am I looking at here” face, Bong Sooh doesn’t act particularly shocked about their behavior at all. The fact the majority of the characters don’t care that Min Hyuk is supposedly gay and some do is testament that the writers actually live in the real world.

 

Looks like everyone is in love with Min-hyuk. sylvia shares her reasons in “Strong Woman Do Bong-soon: Episode 8” comment #1.2:

Ya know, by k-drama standards Minhyk is one of the least crazy heroes out there. No jerking the heroine around, no 24/7 angst fest (though how come no brooding shower yet lmao), no holier-than-thou noble idiocy (fingers crossed!), no therapist on stand-by or some kind of psychiatric disorder, no vampiric or immortal or alien or birth secret double identity. Just a doofus with a massive crush on a girl who he thinks is an angel guided to him by his mother. Oh and he says it like he means it. Yasss, kdrama, good job. You’ve come a long way since the days when true love was supposed to result in everyone floating belly up like dead fish.

charlie:

I also love how naturally ok he is with her strength. Like after training when she gives him the water bottle and he passes it back to her to open it for him. I don’t ever see GD being ok with him not being the all-powerful man in their relationship. Even the way he describes his love for her sounds patronizing: in his eyes she’s this silly puppy that cannot manage without him (grr). Contrast this with MH’s I’m on your side; if you want to go after the big baddie on your own I’ll do my best to help you succeed; I respect your choices and I’ll help you get what you want even if that it’s not me. BS would have to be the biggest idiot ever not to chose MH after all that.

And Fish N’ Chips in #36:

One thing I really love about Min Hyuk is how he’s literally the only person who’s offered to support Bong Soon. Not just with what she wants to do in life, but in general too.

Like her kids, as much as I’m sure they genuinely like her, really just want Bong Soon to be their personal street justice hero. The gangsters would love to have her on the payroll. Gook Du has been incredibly patronising with his long long list of all the things she must and must not do, so I’m pretty sure that even if he DID know about her strength he’d just take her on her family’s attitude of say not, show not, want not. You wouldn’t ever see him training her in self defence.

And speaking of her family, they really are the worst offenders here. Yes, sure, they only want Bong Soon to hide her strength for her own good, but they’ve made that decision completley unilaterally. They’ve never sat her down and talked about it, never ASKED her what she wanted to do, never took her opinion into consideration.

And as much as I’m sure they love her and want the best for her, none of them –not mom or dad or grandma or bong gi or even her best friend– have ever seemed to consider guiding her or helping her out during her struggle to keep a low profile. Bong Soon was pretty much just left her on her own and told to sort it out herself, with no support system beyond the occasional scolding when she’s caught using her strength without permission.

In fact, Bong Soon’s whole life seems to have been this cycle of being underestimated and thus unsupported and thus unsuccessful and thus underestimated again. She didn’t do well in school, didn’t get into college, didn’t find a job — and while the biggest culprt for this is her own lack of motivation, things might have been very different if she’d gotten even half of the support her twin brother got. Instead, she grew up with hearing people constantly comparing her to her sibling or berating her for being unsuccessful or telling her to control her strength without showing her HOW. She’s been like a lone boat adrift at sea.

Until Min Hyuk, and his adorably fervent efforts as part of Team Bong Soon. He sees her feel bad about her strength, and tells her it’s not her fault. He sees her deficiencies with English, and gets her study materials. He hears she wants to make a game, and gets her a laptop. He hears her say she wants to use her powers for good, and tells her he’ll help. He sees her unable to control her strength, and makes her a training schedule. He makes note of everything in her life that gives her a hard time and immediately reaches out his hand to support her as much as possible — without her even having to ask.

Min Hyuk has been the only one who doesn’t constantly tell Bong Soon ‘you can’t do this’ or ‘you can’t do that’. Instead, he says, “Look, you could totally do this, you just need a little help.”

And I suspect that those words are exactly what Bong Soon has been needing to hear for a very long time.

 

Imbuk talks about living in the now in “Tomorrow With You: Episode 13” comment #12:

Also, it is interesting how ma rin needs to be consoled and needs support when It comes to her past (from her dad to being called bap soon) whereas for so joon, its the future (the news about the accident). I just love that after meeting each other they have considerably reduced worrying about those times and started concentrating on the present because they have finally found someone who makes them want to live in the present. I am glad that it did not happen instantly and that it was a slow process which made it all the more gratifying to watch when they have finally achieved this place. I seriously want a happy ending for this couple, director kim and time be damned.

 

Luc expresses a wish in comment #19 of “Tomorrow With You: Episode 14”:

Omniscience is such a gift and a curse.

As a viewer who knows what has happened, is happening, and will happen, I feel frustrated that everyone in the drama is so short-sighted and naive. Even our time-travellers. You know what could and might happen, yet you don’t have backup plans? And you go off on your own, send people to go off on their own, and not utilize the police or any form of security? I mean, here I thought So Joon is a millionaire and he doesn’t have any foresight to hire any kind of security details for himself and his wife.

Bad things have to happen, but boy did I wish everyone was smarter with how they go about things in this drama.

 

And Peeps talks about the dangers of time-travelling. She writes in comment #25:

DooShik seems like a tragic character to me. If SoJoon was addicted to time-travelling, DooShik was obsessed… with “fixing” his daughter’s fate.

So obsessed that he missed her growing up, so obsessed that he lost his present to her future, so obsessed that the tiny little girl he could give his life up for ended up becoming a stranger he dearly loved but couldn’t meet.

Because of time-travelling, DooShik lost his life.

 

Beanies are having trust issues in “Strawberry-sweet posters and moonlit teasers for My Secret Romance.” Callie writes in #1:

I’m still unnerved that OCN is doing a romcom…

The cake is poison right?

FrabbyCrabsis:

Maybe there’s a kidnapper with seven wives on the loose.

Grapes:

Maybe he’s a sexy psychopathic chaebol, who lures young girls to sleep with him to drink thier blood to keep his youth but he fell asleep when he was with the heroine so she escaped safely. But he will finish his unfulfilled mission 3 years later!

ObsessedMuch:

Maybe she is an undercover agent, out to arrest all the chaebol playboys of kdrama-land, one hottie at a time?

 

In “Ji Hyun-woo offered weekend drama Thief-nom, Thief-nim opposite Seohyun,” Miranda writes about the value of slowly building acting experience in comment #1.2.2:

The qualifiers are a problem again. This is the Suzy conundrum: an idol who keeps getting cast in headline roles but who should actually take a lot of smaller roles until she’s better at the work.

This isn’t specifically a criticism of the idols, by the way – everyone needs to learn how to do a job, but most people get to learn how to do it slowly, perfecting as they go. But management companies and broadcasters keep taking insane gambles on very MARKETABLE idols instead of picking the person with the best audition. It’s a business decision, but for the viewer it sucks because you’re watching an apprentice muddle through something that plenty of experienced people would have happily done.

Potential is great. Hard-working attitude is great. Effort is great. But none of it should earn idols roles in dramas that they clearly aren’t ready to take on. It’s harmful to the actors as well, putting a ton of expectation and responsibility on them when they’re hardly prepared. Casting them in smaller roles and letting them learn by degrees and observe veterans is the way to create a GOOD actor. Otherwise you’re just hoping to strike it lucky and find that one born natural actor in a sea of singers – and those guys don’t need more than one drama to make it clear that they’re the genuine article.

“She’s getting better compared to the last drama she was in” is not particularly compelling to me. I’m watching TV, not funding a scholarship program.

 

Michykdrama shares her wish in “School 2017 gears up for July broadcast on KBS” comment #26:

I echo those people asking for a more female centric drama. I love my bromance but girls are just as capable of having awesome life changing friendships too!

And preferably without one of them turning into a jealous catty snake, or having them both like the same guy. Please?

High school in an all girl’s school was the best time of my life. The friendships, sleepovers, waterfights, clothespegs fights (don’t ask), teasing teachers and crazy antics in class… Just a bit of this in a drama would make me very happy.

Please dramagods? I don’t need it to be just girls but please let’s have some awesome female friendships!

Elianne:

A female-centric friendship would just be the best thing ever honestly, the friends I made in high school were a huge part of my teenage years, and yeah life-changing friendships occur for both sexes too!

Plus it’s so rarely depicted well in high school dramas (or just dramas in general period) that now I’m going to be letdown if this drama doesn’t even attempt to include it.

 

Speaking of female leads, Sera The Ms Temper writes in “Perfect Wife: Episode 8” comment #8:

You know why I love this drama? Because the main focus are female leads’ parts and we have one of the female lead playing a psycho, mentally unstable – this is rare, role like this always played by an actor.

Go Soo Young & Jo Yeo Jeong are both perfectly fit in their own roles. Hopefully next week the rating will be increased.

Gwinna:

That’s one of the things I really appreciate about this drama as well. The two ladies are really the “main” leads and the focus of the story is on the interplay between them. And yeah, it is rare to even have a female villain who is not just the underling or sidekick of a male villain, but here we have two (EH and her mom). There might even be more female characters than male characters total in the drama.

 

sorrynotsorry shares good advice in “Radiant Office: Episode 4” comment #3:

One final thing I like about this drama….the secretary. I worked in offices for years, and I always give this advice to people starting out: be nice to the front desk receptionist. The company I worked for threw away resumes after interviews if the party involved was rude to the receptionist. And always always always realize that is not “just” a secretary. They know EVERYTHING.

 

latteholic writes in comment #8 of “Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: Episode 15”:

I secretly wanting Gil Dong to answer Eunuch Kim’s and the shaman’s warnings with “I didn’t choose the thug life, the thug life chose me”. Missed opportunity, show!

 

While the-basketcase notices a pattern in Kdramas. She writes in comment #10 of “Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: Episode 16”:

I keep noticing the same pattern of formula of romance in dramas for our main couples, especially sagueks. While it is not surprising that men tend to be more developed character in k-dramas (thanks patriarchy), I feel there is a complete lack of imagination in crafting the strong women that help these men (even though by now we really need some more women-centered dramas – women tearing down women doesn’t count). In this drama, Rebel, Ga-ryung is an innocent young girl. In Inspiring Generation, the main love interest, Ok-ryun, is a naive young girl, obsessed with her hero. In Gaksital, our main girl, Mok Dan, is young and chaste, obsessed with our hero. In Joseon Gunman, our main girl Soo-in is naive, chaste, and completely in love with the hero. I don’t know how many more drama’s I have to name, but they follow the same pattern. What bothers me even more is that in every single one of those dramas there is always a second lady who is seen more as “damaged” or “scarred” is attracted to our hero, and our hero is usually attracted to her a bit, but she will NEVER prevail over our young, chaste, innocent girl. In Rebel, we have Nok-soo, in Inspiring Gen. we have Kaya, in Gaksital we have Rie, in Jose Gunman we have Hye-won.

I don’t want to bash on any naive, chaste girls out there. You are totally a legitimate romantic partner who deserves a happy ending. But if you keep seeing these girls’ love win over the love of a more “storied” woman what kind of message does that tell girls watching these dramas? If you’ve been scarred from love or had a difficult life, you’re essentially “damaged goods”? All of these second women have had to sacrifice, forcibly or voluntarily, their chastity or innocence to survive. I just want a drama where these women get to shine and achieve the love they want! I’m reminded of how much I loved the drama Hogu’s Love where UEE played a girl who get her happy ending even though she wasn’t chaste or innocent.

Furthermore, I just completely find it ridiculous that those poor naive girls always win their man by waiting it out. These girls wait years for their man to notice them. What kind of a message is that sending to girl as well? If he doesn’t love you now, just wait 5 years! Don’t bother finding someone that can treat you better! When are we going to see a saguek where the man waits years for his lady love to notice him (have I not seen these dramas? tell me!)

I’m not saying that you shouldn’t enjoy these tropes play out, but who can’t appreciate diversity in storytelling? I just want all girls, not just cute and innocent ones (which I am absolutely not) to see a characters like them find love. And for men who aren’t natural leaders or alpha’s to see characters like them find love!

Also, why do all of these stories have dead or missing sisters?

We don’t know about missing sisters! But other beanies have answered the call for differently-written dramas here.

 

Schera talks about the heroine’s problem in “Yoo Seung-ho becomes the prince behind the mask in new Ruler–Master of the Mask teaser” comment #13:

” Kim So-hyun (Bring It On, Ghost) co-stars as a young woman determined to get revenge on the prince for ordering the execution of her father, but that revenge will take a big turn when she falls in love with the prince instead.”

Pfft, women…You had one job.

Cliche Love:

I’m sure what happened was that she was planning on killing a super old, super ugly and super mean guy, and then BAM!!!

It’s hottie prince, Yoo Seung Ho.

clover:

Cue flower petals rain, sunshine, plus birds chirping.

Klurker:

Don’t forget the slo-mo, flashbacks, lingering eye contact, and Goblin OST.
Sword falls dramatically to the ground. slo-mos 10x slower.
years of hate forgotten in one fell swoop.
So-hyun gets lost in Seung-ho’s always-about-to-cry gaze.
lol

Kidding aside, can’t wait for May 10!!!

 

We’re excited too! See you next week (which is not yet May 10) *sadface*

 
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Thank you, I think my comments lately have been put among the Beans of Wisdom few times already ??

More powerful female leads in kdrama coming, hopefully. Not exactly need to be female centric drama, just give female lead more things to do aside from being naive, and love the hero unconditionally. Another one, stop making second female lead as clingy ex gf etc, give them some good stories too. Or if she is a villain, make her real villain, and not just some home wrecker,or bitchy second lead.

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I second that. Also I like my villainesses (is it a word) bitchy, in the sense of feisty. But that is sadly not what dramas serve us.

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Here, Here!!! I totally agree. I just started SAIMDANG, LIGHTS DIARY this past weekend, and was hoping to see a strong female lead here, but not holding my breath. The misogynistic professor in the first episode with the female lead groveling at his feet was SO disappointing.

Maybe it's growing up in a very Westernized society, but it bothers me to no end that Asian dramas are not more empowering to women. However, it probably bothers my husband even more. (We're feminists, can you tell?) I work as hard as my male counterparts and am paid and respected just as much--I know that is rare, even in the US, but it can and does happen. My family has an equal (maybe my husband does even more) division of labor, and you are right, real life doesn't depend on naïve, unconditional love, from either party, let alone the woman for her "hero."

My husband was interested in me first, and most men like strong women who can be independent, that will be an empowering force in his life as well. What's the saying? "Behind every good man is a greater woman." Dramagods, can we please see this? Heck, I'll tell you my story and you can put it on screen. There would be at least two people watching it!

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I hyperventilated a little when I saw I'd made Beans of Wisdom.

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It's like having your name on a wall of fame !

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Same! *Cue Oscar acceptance speech*

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Lol

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Haha!

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lol me too !!!

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Agree with bascetcase! it would be nice to have those women 'with a story' (that do not fit the drama heroine/Candy) take the spotlight or at least be a contender for OTP! 'course nok soo is history but garyung is typical kdrama stuff... how about some real development between nok soo and gil dong - he's going to meet her again and she will have been villified to hell whilst he's going on a similar path but will have had something to make him better?

Quick question: if the show is about reducing the nobles/king's power/the system, doesn't the same system continue after this king's dethronement? Or was there an actual change at the time?

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Was that bed sheet pure grey or white? In that case, on their defense I could also say that I have a thing for monochrome colors lol.

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Nope, flower pattern.

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Regarding the comments about Perfect Wife, it's true that you don't see a drama like this too often. ..... It's certainly turning into one intriguing watch. ..... It's a shame it doesn't have more viewers.

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Am I the only one that washes her sheets on the weekend and puts them right back on the bed? I have other sets, but I'm too lazy in the folding department, so I just put the sheets right back on the bed. My cat flies to my bed when she sees me replacing the sheets because they are straight out of the dryer.

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Me too ? I am quite minimalist, normally I only have one piece of sheet only and use it until it is worn out. Washing it every week.

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I thought everyone did this? Who has multiple sets of sheets? I have some I guess, but they're more worn out than the ones I use currently.

TWY has been somewhat unique in having characters actually wear the same article of clothing twice.

In conclusion, they do their laundry.

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I... I have a ton of sheets. I love getting new ones; it's so satisfying carrying them home in those rectangular plastic bags.

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Okay...I can relate to the plastic bag thing...

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Lmao!!! So who forgets to wash here's because she barely sleeps there?

*looks around, background chuckling stops*...*awkward silence*...

Haha, no one right? pffft, who wouldn't wash their sheets, right? *runs off in shame!!!*

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As i remember my mom has more than 10 sets... From spiderman to flowery set. That's why i wonder why they wore the same sheets for months hahahaha

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Well my family have multiple sets but we rarely change it. Only change every 2 weeks or month. I dislike full white sheet since it gets dirty easily so we have colorful sheets.

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I used to do this in college quite a bit. Our beds were extra long twin sizes, which you only see in college dorms. I bought 2 sets. The material was super wrinkle-proned. You'd think it was paper or something, the way the wrinkles set in. If you want to put them away after laundry and use new sheets, you'd have to iron out the laundered sheets. So sometimes, I would just wash, dry, and stretch them back onto the bed before the wrinkles cool and set in.

Now, I have 3 sets of sheets though I alternate between 2 sets. I only have so many since I leak a lot during my period.

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the_basketcase brought up a great thought!
I wish sageuks we have more of the male leads waiting out for the females or at least make it more prevalent in kdramas where at the beginning you see the male making more of the effort (not to say the female shouldn't make any effort). Kdramas tend to veer more so on the female pinning for male. Would like more variety. Although I would usually turn to cdramas lol for that. So many pinning males.

I absolutely recommend Hogu's Love for anyone wanting to see a male ,who is not alpha, has a crush on the female and his perseverance and understanding of her situation won her over in the end <3 So swooning~

Speaking of strong, revenge seeking female lead,
Is anyone excited for Lee Bo Young's drama?! I really hope they do a good job and I can't wait to see some kick-butt from our female! Or rather from LBY!

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YES that's basically the reason why I'm so excited for that drama. Can't wait to tune in to some female badassery!

Also care to share some recommendations on cdramas where the male lead pines? ☺

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Eternal Love (10 miles of peach blossom)
Singing All Along (Chang Ge Xing)<--- didn't really pine but very very dedicated to his empress
My Sunshine starring Wallace Chung <--- he waited for 7 years!
Princess Wei Young <--- the girl obviously tried to avoid him but the male guy is like totally into her...despite all the crazy plot

Throw in "Sound of the Desert" for swooning male leads lol. But the second male lead was so ;__;

"Because of You" staring Deng Lun and Sun Yi <3 So cute. This is the c version of Jang Bo Ri, and if you focus on the couple storyline alone then it's very cute. The male is very dedicated to the female and nothing wavers their love.

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Yes for Ten miles of peach blossom - Eternal Love! The dedication in the male lead will rip you to shreds. Just finished watching this last and still so not over it. Really recommend this to everyone.

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Aw, I'm so pleased to see bits of wisdom from the Chief Kim comments. The writing is so good and unpretentious that it just asks viewers to sit back and enjoy the show. So there is not much to analyse, except for those who really want to understand Seo Yul the puppy villain. :)

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"I keep noticing the same pattern of formula of romance in dramas for our main couples, especially sagueks."

I understand what you are saying about Ga Ryun and yes she seems to fit the typical love interest but I think she is strong in her own way. The fact that she survived being sold as a slave to the gibang, becomes a servant with no place to go is a lot for a young girl to go through. What would you do if you were in her shoes?
People don't date in Joseon. Their marriage are arranged. She chose what was best for her and not what's required of her.

If you just tuned in to the latest modernized fantasy eye rolling fluff called dress up sageuks that we have been bombarded with lately then you've been missing out. This is not what sageuks used to be or the sageuk standard. They are far removed from the actual history and reality.

Sageuk has always been more female centric than modern dramas if you go back a few more years or way back to the golden era of sageuks.

I'm going to disagree with the "especially sageuk" part of your comment.
Have you seen Queen In-soo, Shin Don's Queen No-guk and Empress Ki, Empress Myeongseong, Princess’ Man, Hwang Jin Yi, Jumong's Queen Soseono, Jang Hee-bin, Jang Nook-so, King's Daughter Soo Baek Hyang, Empress Chun-chu, Dae Jang geum, Queen Seon Deok, Merchant Kim Man Deok, Princess Ja Myung Go etc etc etc.....?
You might want to give some of it a try.

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Aaaah, thank you for reminding all those oldies but goldies ones.
Princess Ja Myung Go's love story was so angst but beautiful <3
Queen Seon Deok... Bi Dam ;__;
I feel like Korea should come back to those type of sageuks instead of the fluffy ones. But that's just my preference.

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I have some problem wuth fluffy sageuk that I was quite reluctant to watch some of current sageuk. Sometimes I go back to watch those sageuk like @Kiara mentioned above. This year we have Rebel, and I cannot wait to see Ruler, and hopefully Seven Days Queen is interesting too.

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@the-basketcase

"When are we going to see a saguek where the man waits years for his lady love to notice him (have I not seen these dramas? tell me!)"

In Gu Family Book, Choi Kang Chi waited 400 yrs so that he could be reunited with his love when she re-incarnates. Does this count?

Unfortunately, she didn't recognise him.

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Lmao, Gosh Gu Family Book!! I just remember the Chai department's valiant struggle with Sung Joon's hair and giving up completely when there was no way to make it look reasonable!!

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"Looks like everyone is in love with Min-hyuk"

I like him, i really do. I like myself a bit less for it, because what does it say about me if i like a character who makes passes on his new employee office mascot. In the last ep he didn't even try to pretend that he hired DBS to be a productive member of his company.
So this satire made me revise all my previously loved subordinate-boss romances like 'Protect the Boss' or 'High School King of Savvy,...

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At least Minhyuk is aware of the personal bias and didn't send her straight to the team of the best and brightest people. He knows she's inexperienced and generally underqualified, so he tries to get her up to speed and prep her for the demand of the job. He still comes from a place of concern for her being bullied, but what's separation between business and pleasure in dramaland anyway? He put in the work to groom her for her dream job instead of putting a parachute on her and landing her on the said job, so I'd give him credit for that.

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But he doesn't teach her either. She is inexperienced, sure but that's why she needs to start at the R&D team with simple tasks, like manual QA f.e.
There's a lot to do and learn and eben inexperienced employees can help a lot before a version update. Instead she's kept as the ceo's pet.

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I disagree a little with the "CEO's pet". He asked her about her "business plan" for the game she had in mind. I don't know anything about games but her explanation was SO vague and unrealistic that I rolled my eyes and sighed.
Do you remember her CV? empty.
She's LUCKY to even be under his tutelage!

Now, if only they'd BOTH sit down and actually WORK... lol

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Who'll respect her and would want to work with her after that?
And it's not her fault, she said she's ready to enter the team and work hard so why not give her a chance?

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“She’s getting better compared to the last drama she was in” is not particularly compelling to me. I’m watching TV, not funding a scholarship program.

Was drinking water and almost did a spit-take reading this! Seriously, I can't tell you how many times I've read of 'improvement' being used as a defence against acting criticism when really, all I care about is the performance being shown in front of me. I don't see why I should be impressed by an idol/actor going from terrible to mediocre, not when another actor could've done a much better job in the first place.

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@Miranda's comment is truly gold; short and precise. She basically sum up everything in one short sentence.

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I'm glad this now has a name: 'The Suzy Conundrum'.

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Yes! I'm tempted to just link to it whenever I see another argument about just giving bad actors 'another chance' *eyerolls*

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I love the Min Hyuk analysis! He really is an awesome character!

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Is it possible to hug a web page? So happy to see my comment included ;-; And then seeing all the fellow commenters on the episode page who sent my clumsy tidal wave of words so much love omddddddd thank you guys so much <3

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I'm so glad to see your comment again here in Beans of Wisdom, Fish N' Chips! It was a big favorite for me when I first read it, too. Beautifully said, have a bouquet this time ?

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Gahhh, thank you that's so sweettt >////<

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Queen of Reversals is a must-watch for those seeking an interesting, non-conventional female lead. Hwang Tae Hee to this day is one of my favorite heroines, and we get to follow her through two love stories, the second of which is so addicting and sweet (and reminds me a lot of the Min Hyuk-Bong Soon dynamic in that the guy loves and supports the girl in all her strength and ability). Seriously, it's long and hard to stick through at times, but so worth it.

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Damn... Never knew my sheets question going to be relevant...

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In “Ji Hyun-woo offered weekend drama Thief-nom, Thief-nim opposite Seohyun,” Miranda writes about the value of slowly building acting experience in comment #1.2.2

Adding to above, the decision also affect the idols/actors/actresses. Han Chae Young actually mentioned it on Sisters' Slam Dunk. When she was casted in her debut drama, Autumn in My Heart, she was a totally newbie with no training given. She was critized heavily on her awkward acting and her parts got reduced. She said that she felt embarrassed and sad that she could not do a better job at it. She even added that she enjoyed her subsequent project more even though it never matched the popularity of her debut drama.

Anyway, it always better to start small and gain experience. I personally believe it builds character.

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It makes me wonder about the Idols themselves, their willingness or lack thereof in the whole thing. Must be hard on them but the company really does them no favours.

Aww, Han Chae Young. I miss her and wish she'd come back. I remember her as Reporter Jin Bo Bae where she was unglamorous and just the average one compared to the hero's Second-In-Comand. Quite the shocker to Google her and find out her nickname. And then I watched BOF where she was so pretty. She may not be a very good actress but I think she's my bias.

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On friday I was travelling from Prague on train. A man asked me the name of that amazing book I was reading. I was reading Open Threads on my phone. I must have smiled quite widely,as usual. He was a little disappointed to hear that I was reading "just" a chat thread with my friends.
So I just wanted to thank you for your comments because they always make my day brighter.

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I smiled reading this. I feel the same way.

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I stopped watching Strong Woman Do Bong Soon and I also stopped reading people's comments regarding its treatment of homosexuality because, while most people were respectful, there were some abusive comments. But since Beans of Wisdom seems to have opened the can of worms again, I just want to point out that I saw no evidence in any of the comments that people who objected to the drama's portrayal of homosexuality "pretend" that homosexuality is accepted everywhere and "act shocked anytime it's presented as anything other than 'normal.'" On the contrary, people who expressed discomfort with the drama seemed to be all too aware that homosexuality continues to be considered aberrant and an object of ridicule by many people in many, if not most, countries. It's fine to disagree about how well or how poorly the drama handles homosexuality but it's not fine to engage in a straw man fallacy.

Look, I get that (1) the drama is a comedy, (2) many people love the show, and (3) many of you, as well as the Dramabeans editors, evidently feel that the show is actually pushing acceptance and normalization of homosexuality. I happen to think: (1) Comedy shouldn't give the writer and director a pass. (Some of the most offensive comments I've heard in my life were racist jokes.) (2) I understand why people love the drama; there are a lot of great things about it and I've never thought that people who love the drama must be homophobes. (3) I happen to think that arguing that the drama is pushing acceptance and normalization of homosexuality gives the writer and director too much credit. This is how it looks to me: The characters fail to react when the drama uses homosexuality as a punch line just as the characters fail to react when mom beats up dad and as the characters fail to react when the stock falls due to rumors about Min Hyuk's sexuality, other than to quickly deny that he is gay. I think that the writer and director think homosexuality and homosexuals are funny, just as they think that mom beating up dad is funny. Many of you do not agree. But can I can just say that my opinion, as invalid or as wrong-headed as you may think it is, is entitled to be heard and treated as seriously as I try to treat yours.

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Strong stance and I understand. We are all privy to our opinions and I actually agree with yours. I think a lot of sensible Beanies would applaud you for dropping the show.
I, for one, haven't dropped the show. I'm not a fan of slap stick humour but for some reason, I just take only the good things I like about the show and keep watching it. One of those guilty pleasures you can't properly justify.

example: listening to ANY The Weeknd song when ALL of his lyrics are misogynistic.

PS: you're writing as if someone told you your opinion wasn't valid... DID someone tell you that? if yes, that sucks.

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...you’re writing as if someone told you your opinion wasn’t valid… DID someone tell you that? if yes, that sucks.

I think @Alaska is referring to the following comment from this Beans of Wisdom thread:

While there are many countries that are accepting of homosexuality, I’m not clear why people pretend that’s the case everywhere and act shocked every time it’s presented as anything other than “normal.” Offended, fine. But shocked, nope.

(Emphasis mine.)

Like @Alaska, I think that comment misrepresents the feelings and positions of many people who had issues with the portrayal of homosexuality in the show (myself included).

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I summarized my opinion better in a later post this morning:
I like the show (mostly the DBS & AMH interactions) but I wish they would stop trying to be “progressive” about LGBT issues while STILL using non-heterosexual people as their source of comic relief. it just tends to leave a very sour taste more than anything else…

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Thanks for writing this.

I too dropped SWDBS because of the way the show portrayed homosexuality, and you are right: in the comments I saw on the issue (which I paid close attention to as I was (1) a part of many of the comment threads and (2) this is an issue close to my LGBTQ heart), no one who had complaints about the show pretended that homosexuality was viewed as "normal" and "accepted" in South Korea. Many people -- myself included -- argued that it should be normal and accepted, but there is a difference between what should be and what is, and I think everyone who had issues with the show is acutely aware of that.

I co-sign everything you wrote in your comment; please know that you are not alone in your opinion! ^_^

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I got featured in Beans of Wisdom !! YAAAAAY !!!

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I've wandered the same thing as Kethy-chan about the coats. Characters will live in a half-basement and not be able to afford shoes, but by God, they will rock some of the flyest, most expensive looking coats I have ever seen.

I've ended many a winter-set drama episode certain that I absolutely NEED to purchase at least one $1500 shearling. That a $700 fur-lined, hooded puffy coat really was something I should own. And that it's something like a tragedy to not own white, cream, navy, red, and black wool coats that cost as much as a small car.

Meanwhile, Subway can't convince me to buy even one $6 footlong sub no matter how many times it pops on my screen.

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*wondered

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Hahaha, poor Subway. I bet some hapless marketing intern is going to read your comment and be like: "Egad! Let us create a coat made entirely of SUBWAY WRAPPERS! That'll bring 'em in!". :-P

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