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Open Thread #604

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Hello Beanies~ Have a good weekend ! 😄 I'm excitedly waiting for Nokdu Flower ep 13-14 this Friday to see special appearance from Lee Jun Hyeok and Yoon Kyun Sang 😆 Six Fying Dragons reunion, a chance to see Yoon Kyun Sang and Yoon Si Yoon together in one drama. It feels nice~ 😊

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I did read about the special appearances. I just started this show, but already looking forward to seeing them!

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I'm so excited. This drama has been granting my wishes, I feel like Aladdin lol.

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@keiru,
Thanks for the reality check. I thought I spotted Yoon Kyun-sang / Moo-hyul when I watched ep. 13 raw. I agree, it's very nice to see uri two Yoons in the same show. ;-)

Since Park Hyuk-kwon / Gil Tae-mi is already in the house, it would be even better if Byun Yo-han / Ddang-sae could drop by and put him out of our misery.

Having just finished DOCTOR PRISONER, I'm going a bit batty every time I see Choi Won-young as a Confucian scholar instead of a homicidal chaebol heir. LOL.

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Hi Everyone and Happy OT! Thanks for an earlier OT this week @mary (I'm having difficulty selecting the correct @mary from the long auto-complete list!!! In fact I didn't see your usual handle with photo of SJR. Maybe the auto-complete list is only displaying the first 10 @marys?

I've finished the kdrama Confession, and I'm glad to report that I am happy with it. And this is inspite of the various weaknesses that were obvious and knowing full well how it could have been even better. Still, I'm amazingly satisfied.

Why satisfied, I wonder, when the show was not as solid as Healer or as intriguing as Signal or as well executed as Forest of Secrets? I was very pleased with the ending. Such poetic justice, and so apt that it takes place in court. I'd have liked to have been able to see to the very end, the justice meted out, with Do Hyun and that good lady judge impartially rendering judgement.

My thoughts on the show are here:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/03/confession-episode-1/comment-page-3/#comment-3461608

Absolute Boyfriend began stronger than I dared to hope. It only had to be likable with a leading lady who'd elicit my commiserations in order to work, and it's been more than that already in just 1-2 episodes. (How did the episodes get divided? were they half an hour each? I saw it as one unbroken episode). This one is likely for keeps and I'm so pleased!

However I can't say the same of Abyss which I've faithfully watched 4 episodes of already! It also only had to be likable with leads that I'd root for. Those feels are missing somehow. Problem with execution???

Still I'm reading what 'Bitches over Dramas' may have to say about Abyss. She has a different take on details that can make my viewing pleasure greater. For starters she has suggested, and I quote: "... in kdramas, the word “abyss” is often tied to Nietzsche’s famous quote from “Beyond Good and Evil”. It goes something like this: Whoever fights monsters should beware not to become a monster himself. For when he gazes long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into him." And maybe the abyss of what they dislike is what our leads have looked long into and so they have become what they hate.

You can read more of Bitches yourself at: http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/05/15/abyss-eps-1-2-first-impressions/

Now the fun shows are the cdramas. The Head on Shoulder is the fluffier of the 2 I'm watching with Le Coup De Foudre balancing between serious and light with touches of funny. They entertain without frustrating, which is what I appreciate right now!

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yes, Confession had its moments. i too was satisfied at the ending. My eyes tend to glaze over when things get all political intriguey, but Junho is so good to look at.

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@growingbeautifully I'm so thankful for the good judge in Confession! There's just no question that if another judge, like some of her colleagues we saw during that meeting, had been in that seat, this story would have ended completely differently.

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@korfan Yes, I was so grateful for all the good witnesses, as well as grey villains who managed to not get killed and who could and did testify! LOL. Seems that more than one of them perjured themselves, come to think of it, but they returned to testify anyway!!!

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Ah, I'd forgotten about Bitchesoverdramas...she does have good insights and knows her stuff! Thanks for the link.
I didn't like Healer (gasp!) or Signal, and have you tried watching Forest of Secrets a second time? I found several flaws with the execution the 2nd time around.
Le Coup De Foudre: I don't care for the male lead (since Oriental Odyssey) so I'm re-watching Oriental Odyssey instead. (He was okay as the 2nd lead in OO and I liked how he ended up with the 2nd female lead, they were more compatible.)
I just realized the Chinese fantasies I like the most are the ones that are tongue-in-cheek. (I had to look up the term to make sure it was the right definition!). Oriental Odyssey, Legend of Fuyao don't take themselves too seriously, nor are they too jokey/silly but are slyly humorous. I've found kdramas lately to either be too serious, gory, or too silly.
Absolute Boyfriend seems to be the right balance - so far.
I've started Absolute Boyfriend and was surprised at how well written and likeable it is. I've been very picky since Dazzling.

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ha ha.. someone agrees on healer and forest of secrets..

signal is ok in bits and pieces

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Thank you! Wow, it's nice to find someone who feels the same way (thought I was all alone).

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"I didn't like Healer (gasp!) or Signal, and have you tried watching Forest of Secrets a second time? I found several flaws with the execution the 2nd time around."

THANK YOU!

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I tell you, I never thought I'd ever enjoy a Chinese drama, I thought they were only good at action movies. But everything changed after I Watched AN ORIENTAL ODYSSEY, EVER NIGHT, and most recently THE DARK LORD. I liked everything about these shows except; I don't understand the ending of ODYSSEY, @linda palapala can enlighten me?

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So glad you loved Oriental Odyssey! I'm actually re-watching it now it's so much fun. What is Dark Lord?
It was a good ending - he got to come back to her. I've noticed in c-dramas when the lead male is true to his one and only love and is a good person who gives up power and isn't greedy, he gets a "happy" ending.
This reviewer is the best explanation of the ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOFe6VxsHL8&feature=player_embedded

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Thanks for the link, it's a good drama and I watched it twice back to back.
You can check out THE DARK LORD HERE https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEXBGg5OB0B-FK3r8hgXimLzB4gU54Ova it's also good.

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I like the idea of the Abyss characters becoming what they hate - it would make so much sense of Gold Digger Girl becoming her younger self that she left behind (including pale eyebrows and acne) and Mr SerialKiller becoming his father. As well as what's happened to our main characters of course.

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i know right.. the most that male lead hates are good looking men, lady hated her senior.. and so on

but just make our male lead tad bit smart.. he is just way too dumb

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I just don't like anybody in the show so far- annoying, frustrating etc. It is rare that I don't like anyone in a show, when it is also rare that I like everybody like in The Fiery Priest.

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I like the police detective not-boyfriend because I love his infatuation with his reincarnated new girlfriend. I'd happily watch the two of them date for a bit. And yes, I know I'm not going to get that.

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With you...
atleast people are sticking for PBY.. but me.. i am annoyed with her too..

this drama is epic stupid treatment.. how do you go from million stars in the sky treatment (minus the end) to this mess

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Happy Friday! I am taking a break from dramas after Possessed, but I have delved into British television. I love Killing Eve and Jodie Comer, so I have started a deep-dive into her body of work. Currently watching My Mad Fat Diary. Also watching Fleabag from Killing Eve showrunner Phoebe Waller-Bridge. It is hilarious and so unique. I love how she breaks the fourth wall for an instant and then the scene resumes. No plans to resume drama watching yet, although I am enticed by the second half of HPL (I've watched the first half, but put it on hold).

I will be on vacation in Las Vegas two weeks from now (my first vacation since Christmas!) and I am so excited to soak up some sun, lay by the pool, and spend time with my family. Hoping to come back refreshed and ready to return to dramaland.

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Have a great time during your vacation!

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My Mad Fat Diary is excellent! You'll love it, and once you've finished that, watch Doctor Foster as well for Jodie Comer just being an incredible actor!

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My Mad Fat Diary! I've watched that in the past when it was airing. You are in for a treat, it's one of those shows that touched upon the mental illness fairly well and done with respect without making it feel like it's glorified.

I've finished the first season of Killing Eve, I have nothing but praises for it, it is incredible. *fangirls*

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Hey there

Yep, climate change. that's it. Horrible needing to wear gloves in the middle of May.

Dramas:

Fellow Citizens: Been waiting for Big Sis to arrive and stir things up.
Doctor Prisoner: I felt a bit unsatisfied that the villain we love to hate has a happy ending and even gets promoted. He's killed folks, right? So cynical.

Abyss: Bring on more worldbuilding, you talkative crystal you! Slowly doling out important info is good, i guess but dang ...stuff we viewers are told at the last minute.Okay, big bad, use our crystal and let's see what a serial killer will do with his revival power.

Private life: although we all figured ryan and shi an were related, i really do not like this lost/abandoned child trope. i shall have to endure.

Beautiful World. Oh Man Seok is sooooooooooooo good! I fell in love with him way back in wang family and have adored him ever since.

cdramas --listening snow tower. Very pretty. clothing is kinda subdued. i'm suspecting tragedy lies ahead.

Saw Misbehavior, a korean movie with Kim Ha Neul. So good but tragic. Yep, it doesn't end well. It's on Amazon Prime.

That's about it. Have a great weekend, all.

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Regarding My Fellow Citizens, with the arrival of Big Sis, difficulties are going to be (hilariously) raining down on Hoo-ja from every direction, I think ...... and we're all looking forward to that!

It was interesting that Doctor Prisoner ended the way it did, wasn't it? I'm insisting that Dr. Na's plan is still unfolding, we just won't get to see it.

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i guess it's realistic for bad guys to win....but.... aaargh. or is it that the writer became so enamored of her bad guy and did fan service? i'm so cynical.

I suspect oori assemblyman and hooja will have to team up. Hooja gets more airtime than our lovey-dovey couple methinks.

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@scifiwritir Good question regarding the writer. You know, I've often wondered if some of these things end the way they do because the writer is writing this stuff as they go along (as they're filming) or if what we see is his/her original intention since the beginning? I suppose in pre-produced/filmed shows this isn't really a question that applies. But who knows.

It's either going to be assemblyman and Hoo-ja or assemblyman and Big Sis together. Ooooo, now I'm wondering if he'll make each one believe that he's teamed up with only her. Now I'm also wondering if there are enough episodes for that! Heh!

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ooooh, yes! We need to see our con guy's skillz~!

I remember cheese in the pie (?) or whatever it was called. That definitely felt as if the writer either fell in love with second lead or was listening to the netizens, giving so much space to the second lead.

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In a “just world” our trio (loan shark family, police family, fraudster family) who gang together and just take over. Don’t think the writer/PD will go unconventional, but it would make for a much more different and interesting story.

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@korfan, @scifiwritir CaroleMcDonnell,

Did I miss an announcement somewhere that DOCTOR PRISONER had been cut down from the 40 episodes stated in the Premiere Watch? It just sort of ended at 32, and I was left scratching my head.

Since the corporate world and governmental institutions in the show are so corrupt and intertwined, it stands to reason that Dr. Na will have his work cut out for him -- along with life-time employment ministering to the medical needs of succeeding generations of incarcerated chaebol heirs.

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@pakalanapikake If there was ever an announcement, I also missed it! It was a total surprise when I saw that it was the final two episodes as I was, up until that moment, under the impression it would be 20 episodes (40). Oh well.

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"Beautiful World. Oh Man Seok is sooooooooooooo good!"

He is so dang talented. I've been watching some of his musicals cause I can't get enough of him lol.

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I love him in beautiful world too. He is so charismatic with this dark roles. But I wish he got more screen time more.

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That's always my complain with dramas that he in, like SQUAD 38. Too short. Need more screen time.

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Oh Man Seok in Beautiful world command a screen presence everytime he is on screen. It's such a shame his char hasn't get much an exploration in this well made beautiful drama. He finally in a well made drama and his character along with his wife scene in drama is so good to watch. It's a shame this drama only has 16 episode. The character is layer, And Kim Ji Woo is back!

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hey Carole! About the lost/abandoned child trope - I was thinking about that, too. Since it something that appears in more than one K-drama to be sure, it dawned on me that it is something that touches the lives of Koreans in a way that isn't as familiar to us as a collective experience. Although on a smaller scale, it strikes me as being along the lines of "Have you eaten?" - something that Koreans ask each other as a greeting of sorts, that is a reflection of their collective historical experience. Of course the writing may make the trope tedious. Anyhoot, I have so much love for this show that perhaps (no, definitely) I am blinded by the charm!

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oh definitely! Yesterday i was reading about Mr Crasper and him having been deported to korea which he was adopted out of when he was 3. I think that has happened to about 16 or so adoptees. Now he's suing Korea for not following up on the orphaned kids they sent to the US. It would be good if life was full of coincidences and he was reunited with some loving family there since he is now separated from his wife and kids. What a world, though! I figure this is all psychic communal grief from when kids were korea's major export sadly., But in dramas it happens so often that it kinda traumatizes me. I just get very stressed by it and i tend to drop shows whenthere are identity issues or when babies are switched, stolen etc. Just my own issues.

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Like in Kill It, also airing. Just the whole recent Korean history of (the need for) orphanages in general is saddening. Or Romania, well - quite a number of countries whose politics ravage the people and hurt children the most. "What a world, though!"

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I heard good things about Snow Tower from a reviewer, but for me to watch a C-fantasy it has to somehow be different from the norm. Quirky, tongue-in-cheek, or like Bloody Romance, just plain weird.

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I'm waiting for princess silver to come so am holding up. so far my fave cdramas were also quirky or different: ashes of love, eternal love, ever night. Minglan, Pushing hands, All is well

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Have you seen Bloody Romance? It's fairly weird.

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no, a reviewer didn't like it so i skipped it. will check it out if i can. thanks.

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@scifiwritir
If you check out Bloody Romance, I know how the ending is supposed to be interpreted - it isn't obvious and many thought it was a sad ending (no, it wasn't).
It is kind of weird, a bit sadistic, (the females love to torture the males) but the last episode makes a fairly powerful statement, imo.
True to a c-drama, the hero and heroine only love each other and are true to themselves, though too much time is spent on her totally misunderstanding his motives. Etc.

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I don't get why Doctor Prisoner had such high ratings (I thought it was too repetitive), while Fellow Citizens has low ratings. MFC is one of dramas I enjoy the most these days- along with Beautiful World and Nokdu flower.

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Hi Everyone! ..... I hope you are all doing well today!

My Fellow Citizens - You just can't get tired of watching Jung-gook inadvertently messing up Hoo-ja's plans as he's trying to be an upright assemblyman.

Doctor Prisoner - I was totally surprised this ended this week because I was under the impression that this drama was 20 episodes long. Anyway, really enjoyed this show. ..... Loved watching Namgoong Min and Kim Byung-chul go at each other. Kudos to Choi won-young for giving us a character that was a memorable mix of villainy, illness and entitlement. ..... A bit surprised that even after all that work Dr. Na put into his grand plan, some of the baddies are, at least, not in jail. I'm just going to assume that the end we saw was not completely the end of Dr. Na's plan. The time will come to get the others, just not now.

Confession - It's now over and I'll miss our trusty quartet. We didn't get some answers and we were left with some suspicions that certain things didn't exactly end like they appeared to. However, I'm certainly happy that Choi-Do-hyun and his father are now reunited.

Nokdu Flower - Just started this one and so far so good. I already know it'll be a mix of heroes and heartbreak, especially with those two brothers.

Her Private Life - This seems to be the show I'm now always behind on, so once again I haven't watched what's going on with Deok-mi and Ryan Gold. *sadface* I'll hopefully get to it this weekend.

That's all for now. Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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Those two chaebol brothers were seriously good! I liked them both and wanted neither of them to triumph. But eh, when elephants fight, the tiny grass gets trampled, as the saying goes. The infighting of the rich doesn't concern us commoners.

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Have a good weekend @korfan!

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@ndlessjoie Thanks!

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Hey korfan! I'm glad to read your comments on DP because (as you will read below) I was growing weary . I will finish it, and I am encouraged by your enthusiasm for the ending. I'm visiting Mom this weekend and I usually watch a K-drama with my brother. I'm thinking of Prison Playbook on Netflix. Take care!

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@owl22 I just thought it was a fun watch overall ..... the oneupsmanship, the trying to outdo each other, etc. I think the actors had a lot to do with my liking this. Had other actors been in these roles, things could've gone downhill quickly given that some things were repetitive.

Have a great weekend with your Mom and brother!

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I'm definitely in for the actors and I will finish it, hopefully with a good taste.

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YES! to Prison Playbook with your brother, and hey your mother might like it as well! great ensemble cast.

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ha, Mom doesn't get that there are umpteen episodes and always wanders in and asks, "I that your Korean show? Is that still on?"

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I had dropped Doctor Prisoner because none of the main characters had any moral principles, especially the doctors. Then I watched the clip recap show, so I decided to watch the last few episodes. The whole show was too much Machiavellian punch-counter punch with no uplifting resolution. It was like a horrific boxing match to the death without a referee. There was no growth or change in the characters. The last episode seemed to be rushed but at the same time I got a cynical vibe that the show runners would want a second season.

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I watched to the end, but I didn't like the characters.(Why was I expecting a heart-warming show about a doctor defending prisoners or something like that) Yes it was hinted for second season, but I hope not.

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Hi everybody,

Just a quick reminder that everybody interested is invited to the local meet-up for dramafans in Germany next Saturday, 25th May 2019. Meeting point is right in front of Frankfurt main station. There will be a sign to make it easy to find each other. Not only k-drama but c-drama, j-dorama and and lakorn fans are welcome.

We will go to a korean restaurant for lunch and chat. The meeting will end in the early afternoon to enable people with a longer journey to make a one day trip.

Feel free to pass the news about the meet-up on to drama friends.

See you in Frankfurt!

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I wish I lived near Frankfurt!!! 😆

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Sounds SO fun!

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You're having a sign? I'm jealous

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Lovely weather here. Everything is blooming, birds chirping, bees buzzing.

Looking forward to this week’s eps of Nokdu Flower.

Giving Absolute Boyfriend a try, leery of abusive Chaebol heiress. ☹️
Not being familiar with the source material, I had to look into it.
Wikipedia discusses the difference between the manga, the J and T live adaptations. No abusive heiress, only in Korea.🙄 Why writer ?

The Boy Next Door , lol 😂❤️❗️

Finished C drama White Snake. Yesterday, my wife rescued a little tiny snake from one of our cats.

Started a C drama, The Legends

K dating show, Love Me Actually

J drama, Annatsuraru, (Unnatural)

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I keep on reading how funny The Boy Next Door is. I want to check it out!

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It’s hilarious . Choi Woo Shik and Jang Ki Yong are both good comedic actors.

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oh it is super funny and amazing ..
what 2 good actors can do is awesome

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where are you watching Boy Next Door?

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It's on YouTube :)

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thank you!

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I watched at dramac***, it’s available on youtube as single episodes, along with some “making of” videos.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCjiLtwgqAef6fxAbVzWHQuQ/videos

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So glad you asked as I am having a difficult time trying to find where to watch a lot of dramas lately. It was simple when I could just rely on DramaFever or Viki and occasionally YouTube. Now I have to make a list of shows I want to see, shows that are on Viki that are unlocked (I am still boycotting Kocowa pricing on Viki), shows on Netflix, shows I have to hunt down on YouTube with the hope there are English subtitles somewhere/sometime, etc.

This has definitely added to my drama watching slump! I have a whole notebook of lists!

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I've been mostly disappointed with the Kocowa dramas on Viki. Very few are any good. I noticed on Viki they're adding more and more reality shows and even the "Coming Soon" section is down to 18.

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I thought about subscribing to Kocowa directly but then realized that it would not have the TvN or JTBC dramas. So complicated! I guess I am still a K-drama junkie but am missing a dealer?

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Could be the reason for my slump, too.

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Love Me Actually - I find the editing interesting, there must be a LOT more going on than we see, natch. It's fun. I think. I get tickled by the genuine efforts to show charms - and the way everyone positively acknowledges those attempts (for the most part).

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It’s fun to watch. Looks like someone is jealous of new friendships in this week’s preview.

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It's a twist that participants can leave and return, too. Amusement parks and seaside cafes are such nice date spots!

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There have been a few departures, new folk coming in. So many tall guys. They have had some good dates.

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I only watched J-version of Absolute Boyfriend. I remember it didn't have happy ending? I'm curious how they will make this version. So far so good.

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Bittersweet perhaps? Riiko still has Soshi after Night passes.

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happy weekend everyone!!
I just want to say hi, this week went by from early morning to late night studies.
Adulthood hit me hard last couple of months with some reality, career-wise. Now, I’m alone trying to travel to Dubai for an important exam next month. Not everything is sunshines and rainbows. But, I’m being hopeful and positive again. I guess, that’s all it takes to be happy, isn’t it?

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Safe travels and best of luck on your exam.

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Adulthood can be trying. Wishing you a safe trip and good luck on the exam!

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I am currently working on staying hopeful in 2019 no matter what. While it is quite a challenge at times, it is true that a hopeful and positive attitude alone gets you very far already, and does wonders for your mental health :) Keep up the good vibes my dear ;) Do not worry about that adulthood thingy, even the best of us suffer from it more often than you might think ;)

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Good luck with the exam. I've been on flights this week, too. Stumbled on two good films: the swing kids (lead actor D. O) and million dollar man (lead actor the same one in r kenshin). The first is tap dancing in a Pow camp and the latter on attitude towards money. Really uplifting stories. (tried posting this earlier but before logging in. Apologies if double post)

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Oops, this should have been a reply to cw, the wanderlust.

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Hi beanies! It's a rainy, rainy day. Her Private Life is very satisfying - I love how Deok Mi and Ryan show their genuine charms to each other and actually talk about what it takes to grow closer in a relationship (my new definition of romance). Ryan even makes room in their relationship and tells Deok Min to do so as well for Eun Ki's feelings. Jae Wook is INCREDIBLY handsome, sexy, charming, and a great actor. I loved him in Temperature of Love where his character was similar in a lot of ways to Ryan. Park Min Young is a lovely actress - don't they make the couple of the year in every way! Here's to #1 fangirl and #1 fanboy! \/

I can't find where to watch Nokdu Flower, boo!

I'm dragging my toes on finishing Doctor Prisoner - the behind the bars dueling is wearing me out. Same with Kill It - need to finish but I'm dragging. Absolute Boyfriend, ep 1, interesting though not my top genre.

Just picked up a new book, The Island of Sea Women by Lisa See, about the haenyeo (women divers) of Jeju Island. Next Friday I'll drive cross the Continental Divide again to visit Mom. See you in a couple of weeks!

I see BTS t-shirts in the unlikeliest places! They've make their mark on the world, so happy for their success and love the adorable 24/7 grins that they just can't wipe off! Happy weekend!

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Her Private Life is great and the leads quite lovely. I'm behind on this show but I have plans to catch up this weekend.

I'm curious about Absolute Boyfriend, but I'll hold off a little bit on starting this. Happy weekend to you too!

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Nokdu Flower isn't on any legal sites except Kocowa in the US. I just bought Island of Sea Women too! We'll have to compare notes.

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I’m so sad about Nokdu Flower...

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I know, YSY!!! ♥

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That would be fun! I've seen a couple of documentaries and of course the women divers of Jeju are woven into a few dramas, but wow - what an amazing cultural/social development under Japanese occupation. Intriguing, as is most of the history of the Korean people.

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Have a great trip!

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I didn't have room for this on JJS post below.
Life bar with JJS (and Kim Jae-wook bonus.), 4/2019.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFwAQ8CSBIc

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Why thank you, fan. It was my after-dinner mint. (Natural elegance.)

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Thanks for that wonderful link, @fanwho. These guys are so doggone talented. And there's Oh Man-seok, another of my faves.

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Happy Friday fellow Beanies! I hope everyone had a lovely week and will have a lovely weekend! ❤️

Kill It 8/10 I'm really liking this but I'm not sure how this will end (I have 2 episodes left). I can't see a happy ending as Kim Soo-Hyun IS a murderer and Do Hyun-Jin is all about justice. My only problem is I feel Chang Ki-Yong lacks as an actor. In the last 2 dramas (this and Come and Hug Me) he has been a block of wood. I know both characters were these cold, stoic type characters but he makes the characters so unbelievably boring with his single, unchanged expression through an entire drama.

Romance Is a Bonus Book 7.5/10 This was cute and I liked the slow burn of the romance. It made sense in the context of the drama and their initial relationship. Cha Eun-Ho was an adorable puppy, especially with her. Kang Dan-Yi was sweet but wore the MOST HIDEOUS outfits ever. The running joke with me and my mom was what hideous sack would she wear this time. The drama also made me rage. Is Korea really that biased towards older people? She is in her late 30s but despite being extremely qualified for all these jobs she kept being rejected because she took a break? Absolutely asinine. Why would companies rather hire less experienced people then those with clear experience? And then she wasn't going to be hired on at this company because she was a contract worker despite her being extremely talented and a hard worker? Yes, I raged hard at the stupidity of it all.

His is Psychometric 8/10 I liked this more in the beginning then the end. I also knew who the perpetrator was by episode 3 as it was made blatantly obvious, so when it was revealed I was not surprised at all. I’ve never seen the actors before but they all did a great job in their roles. It was quite an enjoyable watch despite the inconsistencies in the overall plot and pacing.

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Legend of Hao Lan 7/10 This drama is ok but it spun its wheels for so long that I lost some interest by the time it actually started going somewhere. I liked the first about 5 episodes but then it spent the next about 20 with absolutely no plot progression. It was literally plot after plot after plot to try and take the 3 main people down. People would plot against them just for them to come out safely by luck or wits over and over and over. Haolan was sentenced to be executed 3 times just for them to luckily escape. Yiren tried to escape 5 times just to be caught everytime and weasel their way out of punishment by their wits and luck. Over and over and over. As well as I am tired of the princess and her crazy over-the-top obsession with Yiren. But once the drama actually started moving somewhere it started picking up and becoming enjoyable again. I love the actors but sadly this is no Story of Yanxi Palace which is one of my favorite cdramas (and has almost the same cast in it).

Goodbye My Princess 7/10 I did enjoy this for the most part despite both guys being assholes. I was pretty sure there couldn’t be a happy ending after what Li Chengyin did to Xiaofeng in the beginning and then especially what he did within the last 5 or so ep. So I wasn’t surprised with how this ended (it was the only way I could see things ending and plus, he deserved it). I loved Xiaofeng as a character. She was spunky, cheerful, but had a spine of steal. Gu Jian was creepy. Lying to her when she lost her memory to be close to her is just gross. Li Chengyin was a selfish asshole. Totally ignoring her happiness and desires for his own (which Xiaofeng called him out on) and then thinking they could be happy after all the bullshit he pulled. And then being confused when she resisted. However, the actors did a great job and hope to see them in more upcoming dramas.

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Hi Beanies, happy Friday!

I was happily watching an old family drama on the KBS World YouTube channel, only to ... run out of episodes. Even though Wonderful Days originally aired in 2014, KBS seemed to be releasing one episode a day and none on the weekend. I had got to ep 32 and caught up with what was available.

I feel cheated! And also, I calculated that as there are 18 eps left to go it will be almost a month before I'll have finished it! I'm seriously peeved. But not peeved enough to go watch it somewhere illegal. I'll be patient.

Catching up with My Fellow Citizens in the mean time. That drama is just so giffable (is that a word? it should be a word)

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Happy Friday! I have yet to tackle a drama longer than 24 episodes and that was rough.

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The only drama of 50 episodes or more that I watched in its entirety (without skipping an hour here and there) is the amazingly brilliant Nirvana in Fire (54 eps).

Normally with a family drama, I am really gripped at the beginning and then get a bit bored. So maybe one episode a day is actually a good thing.

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My Fellow Citizens is indeed a gifable show! (New word approved)

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Uuu..i like gifable dramas. My theory is gifable drama = fun 🤣. I will have to contiue My Fellow Citizens sometime.

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Has anyone ever noticed how many actors have cleft chins (aka butt chin, dimple chin)?
Any theories? Is there something about a cleft chin that makes their brains cleft too so they're better actors? I find them very distracting.

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Oh geez, now I will be looking for “butt chins” during my drama watching.

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Some people think they're really sexy but I find it not so much.

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The Burning Sun scandal is lurching and stumbling to an unsatisfactory end. The police investigation of its own corruption came back (surprise) with no charges. The paths to the upper class, international organized crime links and entertainment leaders seem to have lost all traction in the media reports. Disappointing.

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Ah, another Open Thread Friday. Woot! Haven't been watching anything too new lately. I've found that I don't have the patience to watch live airings. Marathons are more my style. This time of year, I have a little side business sewing pop culture-related aprons to sell at cons and handmade fairs over the year. So setting shows on autoplay is the best.

A couple of days ago I realized something was missing from my drama viewing: The Walk. Thanks to Fiery Priest, watching Kim Nam-gil do his slo-mo catwalk strut has ruined me. Then I got to thinking, why don't all men walk pretty? Because K-dra has taken over my life, I tend to notice these things, especially if The Walk is missing or not natural.

It's even more glaring in English-speaking tv shows. There's nothing like a long strided, confident, loose-limbed walk of a tall man. Then I wonder if it has anything to do with perceived masculinity in America. Let's face it, some men can wear the heck out of a flowered shirt (I'm looking very hard at you, Lee Min-ho!)

Thinking back, I'm pretty sure it was Song Seung-heon who initially brought The Walk to my attention. He's been in some not-so-good shows, but dang it, I will watch just to see him walk. Player was my favorite, but seeing him in all black in the show Black got me giddy. Jang Hyuk has a great thug walk, especially in Greasy Melo. Park Seo Joon with his hand in pocket, quick walk is fantastic too...

Anyway, end of walking rant. Finally watching Come Here and Hug Me (WOW this show), and Doctor Prisoner (full of strutting peacocks!). Have a good weekend and happy watching!

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I wish I could like this post ten times 😄👍

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Hee hee thanks!

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Secret life of my secretary episodes 3-4 :
He doesn't know she is not the real Veronica, right ?

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I don’t think he does. But how refreshing will it be if he knows already without dragging along until the end?

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This mini deception made me balk a bit and yes, they better not drag it out.

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I'm not watching Game of Thrones, but I've been enjoying reading about it the past few weeks, with the photon-deprived episode, coffee-cup, etc, etc. So I'm looking forward to reading in a few ways about how lots of people are throwing one last fit about the finale :)

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Game of Thrones fan here! My fb feed is like drama beans now! Except it is all about GOT and the million fan theories and hissy fits! Haha! I like the way it’s headed. It didn’t come as a surprise to me.

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I think that Daenerys going "mad" so fast was the problem. If we had 8 episodes, instead of 6, they could have drawn it out a bit and we could believe it more. This season is just too fast, but I do like the overall storyline.

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But I get it though. She went through so much in her young life to get to the iron throne. But in the end, the iron throne is not even hers. It’s Jons. Even though he said he will support her, him rejecting her advances established the fact that inside he is not Jon Snow anymore but Aegon Targyren, the rightful heir to the throne. She lost her best friend, her 2 dragons, her chief advisor and she just wanted to burn everything down. She knows she has lost. This was her final act of loss and desperation.

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Totally! I just hope that she lives and just moves to Essos where they all love her.

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Having sex with your aunt can be a little bit disturbing if you're not a Targaryen or a Lannister... So it's not about the throne for Jon.

For her madness, they showed a lot of time that her solution was to burn everything. People of Westeros don't like her like they liked her in Essos, so between all happened, her lost, etc. it wasn't really surprising.

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Same. I stopped watching after season 6 and having fun with all the rant going on.

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I haven't watched it at all (not an HBO subscriber). But I'm partway thru reading the first book for the 2nd time (first time was at least 20 years ago, so I don't remember many details).
Meanwhile, discs of previous seasons are reasonable affordable on Amazon, so maybe someday....

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Like you, I will read the book... maybe someday.

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You have the time. It's really frustrating to wait for the next book...

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Happy weekend Beanies!

OT seems pretty quiet these last few weeks. Since I have not been weekly OT-ing for a year yet, I wondered if May is a busy month elsewhere too? :) I just came back from a job exam that did not go well, but since I am already working and gave it my all I am fine with it. Or I am just too exhausted to care, since I am not sleeping or introverting enough these days. It seems like I will have to hold on until June comes around, with all the festivities and job interviews after work hours. :)

The last few weeks I have been worrying about getting fired, because I was told that I worked too slow. My lack of speed was holding me back from receiving formations and therefore also from growing and learning new tasks. There was also the language minority problem. I made the nasty discovery at work that those two problems are related. It turns out that the major language speakers have been discriminating the minor language speakers for ages. A couple of colleagues who share my native language and have been rallying against this for ages, were very frank with me about my place in the company.

These sunbaes were also denied the necessary formations, and had to do the same simple tasks for months before they suddenly had to do other tasks and figure out how to perform them on their own. And yet they are also the first ones to get scolded for mistakes. Fortunately my sunbaes are not only warning me about this, but also encouraging and teaching me. One sunbae performed his scheduled task, while at the same time teaching me how to perform that task in the near future myself, and in a manner that was a lot faster and easier to grasp for me than any formation would.

While I am disgusted by the discovery, I am actually more relieved. It is not my personality, it is not my lack of speed (but I do admit it needs to improve), I just speak the wrong language and do not have the fake doll profile my superiors love so much. In short, they will never view me as a good employee anyway. So I plan to lay low for as long as I can to keep my job safe, and to get the necessary instructions from my sunbaes. It seems that I will be getting a lot of those in the near future, since a lot of staff members are on leave during the summer holidays and they need enough people to keep everything going. ;)

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Just hang in there. They will still have need of you as you speak the language where you are now. Just find your simple joys in db community and the dramas. There is more to life than the job.

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"There is more to life than the job". I absolutely agree and thank you for repeating it to me. I am learning not to let my job (hunting) dictate my life, but bad habits are hard to get rid off ;) Sadly I rarely have time to watch K-dramas, but Beanies are present every week! :)

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Hi @turtuallysarcastic I'm glad to know that you're not totally alone and struggling. Yes, taking it positively, if it's the language that's the barrier, then you know where you stand and have more realistic expectations. You'll know not to be disappointed and that once you've done your best, there is even less reason for any apparent 'failure' to be taken to heart.

Sunbaes can really be the best. Definitely, they'll teach you more than a formation course might.

I wish I too had a couple of work mates who'd lunch with me in 'my language'. Since it's seldom the case, I often lunch alone or look for a lunch companion outside my office.

May you continue to grow and gain much from the ups and downs of real life, and take care of yourself! 😃

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As always, thank you for your support! I view you as a sunbae of sorts (and your recruitment knowledge is a nice bonus ;)), so I feel relieved after reading your take on this.

I actually have the opposite problem. I share a workspace with 50 other people and lots of office noise, so I love/need to introvert during lunch break. Try to explain that to extravert colleagues ;)

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@turtuallysarcastic that's sweet of you to consider me sunbae (do I call you hoobae? Heheheh!) . I don't have a wide variety of experiences, but the little I have, I'm happy to share. Although having said that, I think what I mentioned above was just like 'common sense' and nothing special LOL.

For introspection ... Would you be able to establish a me-time lunch hour once a week when you bring your own lunch and hide out somewhere to relax? If your colleagues get used to it, at least once a week they won't insist on eating with you! 😜

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I actually started hiding out a few times already, and so far no problems there. The funny things is that those extraverts practically insisted at the beginning, but once we were seated, they talked among themselves, and I was literally just sitting with them. :P Excellent excuse to sneak off on my own, don't you think? ;)

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@turtuallysarcastic Hah! High-5! That happened to me too, several times. Since I was superfluous I decided to lunch alone.

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TGIF! Aw another nice drama has ended- I felt so relieved after finishing Confession- I was worried if something bad would happen to dad. Plot didn't have twists(no new surprise on the big bad) and there was no romance in this drama, but it was so well written that I never felt bored. Kudoes to the writer! (Did I hear he was publishing scripts into two-volume book?) Hope there are some interviews. Btw There was one interview I wanted to cover in all interviews done on casts from the Fiery Priest (I liked all characters, which is rare). Paek Ji-won (46) who played the nun delightfully had a few interviews.
[Nocut Interview, 2019.05.04; Starnews, 2019.05.07] Paek who played the role of sister Kim In-kyung, the head of the Gutam cathedral in the Fiery Priest received a lot of love from the viewers with the twist in her plot. After debuting as a theater actress in the play "My big-mouth dad got cancer" in 1996, she did her first TV drama JTBC's Wife's Credential in 2012. As a veteran actress doing projects consistently, with looks resembling Hollywood actress Sandra Oh, Paek became familiar face to the public. Here is Q&A session.

Q: How did you feel after finishing the show which was loved by many people?
Paek: I do not feel it is over yet. Sister Kim had many twists and turns as having taken a dramatic life. Kim was a person who made me to see many different sides of myself. There was a lot of discovery. I wish I could keep good parts reflected in acting and personal life. I want to send her after spending some more time with her by my side because I want to get more good influences- I can hear her nagging when I am wrong, her worry about what I do and comforting me.

Q: It is drama which caught both of the rating and the issue. Did you anticipate the popularity of the show?
Paek: I thought it would do well. It was not so much about the viewer ratings, but the combination of actors and their spirits which were very good. All of lead characters acted well and tried to be considerate of all supporting actors. I watched them not being greedy as individuals, but gathering power without being selfish from the beginning. So I thought that the drama could not fail. Because I know it's not easy for actors to do that. I'm glad ratings came out well.

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Q: What do you think is the secret of the popularity of the show you felt while acting directly?
Paek: It maybe a nonsense situation, but it seems that viewers felt satisfaction vicariously. We showed the priest we had not seen before. There have been many righteous characters, but there were no priests like Kim Hae-il, an ex-special agent. I think such twist of a character was one of the secrets of popularity. And the main characters were really good at acting. I think because actors acted believing that the situation was 100% genuine, the scenes came out well.

Q: How did you take on a nun role?
Paek: By chance I had a meeting for casting. My character was different from my image in the past, and I felt that it was a character who could show various aspects. At first, the setup of the nun was ex-idol, so I wondered how I could do that. I can't sing, I can't dance, my appearance is not idol. (Laughter) Fortunately, I got the message that I was changed to a tajja(card scammer) in the middle. Sister Kim's narrative melted in the whole story well, and I am grateful for my contribution.

Q: Wasn't it difficult to digest the role?
Paek: Every time I take a character, I feel difficulty. In this work, it was a little harder because she was a nun. I do not know anyone personally, and I can't meet them easily, so I couldn't guess how actual nuns spend their daily routine or what kind of ideas they have. The only way I could learn was through the Internet or my acquaintances. Btw writer-nim opened up a lot of things saying we could be comfortable with scripts and dialogues. I was very grateful for that. And the script was really funny. When I read the script, I had idea like this scene would be done this way, or we could make that scene fun, but people came to the set prepared even more. I learned so much watching them.

Q: It is a strong comedy drama. Was there a hard time to act?
Paek: I personally tolerate laughter relatively well. However, One scene I almost had NG because I was laughing was when I was filming with priest Han Sung-kyu (Jun Sung-woo). After the acquaintance of Kim Hae-il looked at sister Kim and said he saw her somewhere, (ep.21) Kim got nervous, walked the corridor talking to herself "Can't be, maybe not", and there was a scene in which Han said, 'What is not it?' and I was startled. But then I had an unexpected laugh. Jun Sung-woo ssi looks so innocent when you see him. When the actor who was really innocent surprised with his eyes open wide, it was so cute that I laughed. Unfortunately it was edited out so it was not broadcasted.

Q: You looked like a real nun. Is your religion Catholic?
Paek: Yes, but I haven't been to the church for too long. I had a lot of reflection while doing this work, and I had a lot of worries. There was a line of Father Kim Hae-il- "Do not reflect, but to practice," and when I heard the line, I felt guilty. So I plan to go to the church to attend the service.

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Q: It left a lot of great scenes for viewers. Are there any memorable or want-to-erase scenes?
Paek: My favorite scene was when Father Kim Hae-il received a priesthood ordination. And it was not the scene that I wanted to erase, but there was time I thought I caused trouble for others. At the final ep. I was kidnapped and caused trouble to Father Kim. Also, I remember action scenes. It was amazing to watch the broadcast. The action scenes of the actors were wonderful.

Q: Many viewers were surprised by the twist for sister Kim. In the drama, you showed tajja skill playing a big role in solving the case. It was great when you appeared as "fox with 10 tails". It was literally "Scene stealer" that caught the attention of the viewers.
Paek: I have practiced but made NG many times. I've never played the card game before. I was informed that the setup was changed in the middle of shooting. So I did not have much time to actually prepare myself. I practiced thinking I should at least be able to mix cards and throw cards. I am glad it came out well. I used to hear the word 'Scene stealer' when I did "I have a lover" too in the past, but I still feel strange when I hear that. I'm thankful for viewing me favorably. However, I think that Scene stealer is created by actors who appear together.
In this show, assistant in Prosecutor Park Kyung-seon's office described sister Kim as a great person/legendary tajja (ep 30). It is important having good performance in expressing the character, but I think how that character is drawn by the people around her, and how other actors act along with her make up more than half to be a "Scene stealer", so I always thank the actors I work with.

Q: In addition to Kim Nam-gil, what was it like working with actors such as Jeon Sung-woo (Priest Han Seong-gyu), Kim Sung-gyun (Detective Go Dae-young), and Honey Lee(Prosecutor Park Kyung-sun)?
Paek: It was really good. Actors had a lot of pre-meetings before shooting. The same was true for the staff members. So I think we all got close on first script reading day. The leading actors did a lot of lead. From the beginning they seemed to have given us the belief that we all were on the same ship. The main actors gave much consideration to the supporting actors. So, in the supporting role actors' view, we had voluntary desire to contribute to the hero's narrative. It made us to prepare emotionally and actively more. I think that it is very fortunate that such synergy has been passed out to the screen.

Q: You've performed in about 9 dramas including the Fiery Priest. You must be familiar with TV grammar by now.
Paek: No. I'm still a rookie in media acting. The acting, the way of approaching the character, and living as the character are not different whether it is the stage acting or the acting for the medium. I thought I would get used to it after 10 years of stage acting. But the more I stand on the stage, the more frightening and trembling it...

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...feels. So it is still long way to get used to it, and I'm always nervous about the part if getting used to it is good as an actress, or if it'll just become a habit.

Q: What is the charm of acting in TV dramas, different from the stage play?
Paek: Improvisation? Stage acting has improvisation too, because the stage plays are scripted and the target point is accurately described, so they are practiced in a shared way with one direction. Even if an impromptu part comes out, it is being done within a big frame. But with the drama you do not know how the script will come out, so the actors are looking forward to seeing it, anxiously waiting. Every time a script comes out, a narrative of the character is piled up. Then I see how I should live in the future. I think it is different in that what life my character should live is revealed little by little. In the Fiery Priest, actors also showed adlibbing at the set. I had to endure laughter because I had to concentrate on the situation. That seems to be the attraction of TV drama.

Q: Do you have a genre or character you want to challenge as an actress?
Paek: I would like to meet a person who has no emotional fluctuation, or a person who does not have feelings or emotion. Sister Kim is a person who is soft but has a narrative with much emotional part. If I have the chance, I want to live the opposite life once. I want to see if there is a person who does not weaver and does not feel emotion at all. I wonder what that is like. Sometimes I wonder if they actually feel nothing, or feel something but filter it out. It is vague, and I want to challenge because it is a person I haven't played yet.

Q: You look like a sister in the usual way. What was the greatest deviation in the life of Paek Ji-won?
Paek: I have never did wild things in my life. When I look back, it was boring. If I have to say it, it is tango and salsa that I did as a hobby. I sometimes dance The Argentine tango, and I go out with a friend who can go with me.
Q: If there is a reason to dance?
Paek: I tell actors to learn to do couple dance, because there is a chance to communicate. If you do not concentrate from head to toe when you dance, you can't dance. I did it for emotion training at first, but I like it because it is an opportunity to communicate with my partner.

Q: How did you become an actress when you have such shy personality?
Paek: I was model student in high school. Then I met a unique friend. In my eyes, she looked so carefree. I found that she belonged in a play club, so I decided to do acting to understand her. And I joined the acting club in college and after graduating, I became a member of the theater company Yeonwoo Moodae. (She mentioned her father objected to her acting, but when he watched her debut play in 1996, he approved her career choice saying "Since you decided, do well and work hard. Now I understand why you wanted to do this.")

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Q: Is there my own "something" different from other actresses?
Paek: I do not have much Um ... . Maybe I'm an actress who is sensitive to the nuances of the word? An actress who wants to save the nuances of the words of the dialogue? The reason Korean language is really difficult is that, I think, Korean is a language that sounds very different depending on the nuances of the situation even though it is the same word. I think it is hardest to be good at Korean. People might think it is easy because we use it all the time, but I think that it contains different meaning as soon as I speak as an actress. So the weight of the word is not so light and I want to be an actress who can put meanings very delicately in every single word and breath.

Q:Actress Paek Ji-won- How do you want the public to look at you? What is your goal as an actress?
Paek: I want them to look at me as an actress who has no qualifier. I want to hear "actress Paek Ji-won". The word "actress" seems to be a very easy and difficult word for me. I think I am still 50% short to say I am an actress. I would like viewers to say, "She is an actress." And as goal as an actress, I would like to be able to give faith, trust, and sense of security to the actors I work with. When I played with Kim Nam-gil this time, I felt I could rely on and trust him. I want to be an actress with such a presence.

Q: What is your goal or dream as an individual not as an actress?
Paek: I want to live happily without hurting others. I want to live while giving, and I want to live simple and quietly, understanding and taking care of the people next to me. I think I'd like to be a small seed that gives a good aura to people next to me. I am trying not to lose the thought that I can do something- "I can still make progress, and I am not late yet. I can live in a good way."

PJW fighting! I can't wait to see her as badass Hoo-ja's sis (equally badass?) Jin-hee in My Fellow Citizens. Monday, come faster!

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Being impressed with Choi Won-young's acting this week, who played Lee Jae-joon in Dr. Prisoner, I thought about actors who stand out with their acting in currently airing dramas (to me at least), and one of such actors is Jo Jung-suk who plays Paek Yi-kang in the Nokdu flower. So I looked him up. Actually I'm surprised I didn't do one on him already as he made such impression in a few previous projects.
[namuwiki] Jo Jung-suk(39) was born as only child (but he has 3 step siblings with big age gap -like 18 years). His father died in 2000 so he was exempted from military service as the head of the family to support his mother. He wanted to be a guitarist, but he went to major in Theater in college with the recommendation of a church evangelist who recognized his talents. In the publicity interview of the film "The Face Reader", when Lee Jung-jae(Abyss) asked why he felt Patho/suffering in Jo Jung-suk's acting, Jo mentioned the experience that his nephew died early might be the cause. In addition to losing his father before he entered the college in 2000, the sudden death of his nephew three months before his debut in 2004 hit him so hard that he even had bad thoughts(suicide). (Good he had his mother)

Jo debuted in musical "Nutcracker" in 2004. His nickname is 'PPo' which he got doing the musical Hedwig. In the case of a play or a musical, when multiple people cast for a single character, a nick is created using the front letter of their real name and some of character name, so it would be Jo-deu-wig, but Jo Seung-woo(Life) already had it, thus Jo Jung-suk became "Ppo-deu-wig" because he had milky skin (His skin is very white and clean). Since then, in the theater and musical world, 'Ppo' has become a word to indicate Jo Jung-suk. Not just musicals, Jo has been actively involved in film, drama, and stage play. He made news by dating and marrying the singer Gummy in late 2018.

His drama debut was 2011's "What's Up". In 2012, Jo gained popularity by playing a royal guard chief Eun Si-kyung in the drama "King 2 Hearts", and the lead's friend "Napdeuk-yi" in the movie "Introduction to Architecture" giving different charms. The gap between comic acting in the movie and the serious role in the drama were so big that they said many people couldn't recognize them as same person. Jo also appeared in the drama "Oh My Ghost" in 2015 and enjoyed success. In 2016, he was considered having his "life character" in the drama "Jealousy Incarnate" which got him many commercial opportunities. Since then he appeared in Legend of blue sea (2016), Two cops(2017), Knowing wife(2018) and Nokdu flower(2019). His first award was new actor award in Korean Musical Grand Prix in 2008, and the latest one was Best Actor Award for "Two Cops" in MBC drama awards in 2017.

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His sight was very bad and he even gained teasing nickname(Ggubung-yi). However after the Jealousy Incarnate, he did lens implanting surgery and fixed this problem. In addition to playing guitar and singing, Jo can dance. In variety Radio Star, Jo said he was one of the students who did B-boying dance(Break dance) in festivals and training occasions at high school and showed off his ability instantly. He digested the dance move in the promotion video for Jealousy Incarnate too (He also sang OST). In the variety Running Man, he showed multi-talents by doing jegi-kicking(hit a small object to the air with feet) like nothing, or juggling with three potatoes.

Jo is also known for being good at reading. There is a reputation he acts with a unique breath that is slightly different from other actors. In the scene with kissing or skinship, his ears get often red which was noted in Oh My Ghost and Jealousy Incarnate. (Methinks there are actually a few actors whose ears turn red on those scenes heh) In Jealousy Incarnate, his fierce kissing scene with Gong Hyo-jin in ep.14 led to a huge number of hits on Naver TV, in addition to real-time search for hours- with it he gained the image of manly man, erasing all his previous images. Unlike a face that looks younger than his age, as well as his white and clean skin, he is famous for his ajae(old man) speaking ways.

He also has serious and masculine personality, as actress Lee Mi-suk said. She who worked with Jo in 3 projects (including Jealousy Incarnate) complemented Jo saying his private life was upright and clean. Gong Hyo-jin also said that Jo was surprisingly manly, and that he was atmosphere maker at the set because he is pleasant and has sense of humor. Jo said that his personality is the same as what was shown in "Youth over Flowers". In his first fan meet, Jo cited Eun Shi-kyung(The King 2 Hearts) as the character who most resembled his real personality.

Jo had a few interviews after the movie "Ppangban/Hit-and-Run Squad" opened in the theater early this year.(with casts like Gong Hyo-jin, Ryu Joon-yeol, Yeom Jung-ah, Jun Hye-jin, Key- talking about familiar faces) [Daily Economic Star Today, m.sedaily, Sports Chosun 2019.01.28-02.10]
Jo Jung-suk, who was loved as a cheerful and warm character in the movies such as "Introduction to Architecture", "Face reader", and the drama "Oh My Ghost" and "Jealousy Incarnate", challenged with the transformation of acting in Hit-and-Run Squad. As the reasons for choosing this project, Jo said, "It is completely different from what I have done so far, so I wanted to do more, feeling interested. And I like to challenge myself."

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Regarding his "out of control" speed maniac businessman Jae-chul character, Jo said, "Even though he is a villain, I tried to approach as weird guy rather than a dangerous person." It is also his first villain role challenge. "When I thought about what the person was thinking, I thought his way to survive was just bad. I wanted him to look like a character who doesn't care about means... I felt good to be able to show a person who has very different texture. When the actors act something they never did before, they say, "I saw the face I never saw before.". When I looked at the mirror while shooting the film, I did not feel it's my face, which was refreshing. When I was shooting doing monitoring, I felt satisfied when the faces I did not know came out." Jo also said, "I felt free as I let go. I was on the stage a lot. It takes more energy consumption in acting on the stage than in front of camera. It is different depending on the size of theater, but with bigger theater, you have to produce more energy. As such a person I think I acted feeling refreshed doing this film. I felt relieved as I shouted without care."

About how he prepared his evil character role, Jo said "I felt the person was strange when I first read the scenario, so acting was difficult and there was time I struggled. I worried if the setup he stuttered would become interrupting factor. So I thought how I had to add it well technically. I had a friend who was stuttering in high school, and I got help from him. I watched how there was change in his body as he stuttered. I didn't try to adopt other evil characters in other projects. I only thought and analyzed the character. Actually I tried to act not to adopt other roles."

When mentioned that audience response was enthusiastic during the premiere, Jo said, "It is thanks to Ryu Joon-yeol (Reply 1988). He is the trend these days. It's been a long time since I've had such reaction, and I felt the same way when I did the stage greeting with Do Kyoung-su ssi for the film "Hyung". I am thankful to Joon-yeol." He continued, "In case of Joon-yeol, I really like him. He is the guy who works the hardest and most adventurous in his age group. Not because he does many projects, but he always does new acting without taking a break. So I want to work with Joon-yeol more."

Jo also mentioned about friendly set atmosphere. "Three of us(with Ryu Joon-yeol, Gong Hyo-jin) were close, but I filmed myself- When three of us filmed together, they rode together, but I road alone so they teased me." About Gong Hyo-jin who worked together in Jealousy Incarnate, Jo said, "Hyo-jin's personality is really good. And by now we click just by looking. I think if we do romcom together again, we'll do incredibly. I think we reach the level we understand each other just by looking at each other's eyes. I think romance can be made well by director. But for comedy, actors have to match in acting breath and texture. Hyo-jin...

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...and I complement each other really well. I think if we do one more time, we can go like a bomb."

To put it in a word for his acting, it can be summarized as "worry a lot, act fast", Jo stated. "When I have a new work, I usually do a lot of thinking. I think if the anxiety about the character is accumulated, it would be embodied in the acting. Then I think whatever I say is what he says. Even if someone says "No, it is Jo Jung-suk". That is the foundation of acting. I have many thoughts and worries first, but when I act I approach it nonchalantly. I am the type approaching the acting so simple that people might feel unrefined. Of course, there is no right answer to acting."

He continued, "I act with the idea that the actor should be self-confident. You don't need to feel timid if someone says you can't do well, and you don't need to feel all proud when someone praises you. The right idea is that acting is to do as you feel. I don't think I can do this line of work without conviction and confidence. It is the actor who actually implements to make people believe the writing in letter form through the work."

Jo didn't have all shinny successful years in his acting career even with such confidence. Jo said that he was trained through failed projects. "Of course, I don't feel good when I hear bad comments about acting. But I am trained. I did a project which was so good that I did Encore performance, as well as terribly failed one. I had time when I climbed to an empty stage, as well as an stage where the audience was so full that atmosphere was overwhelming. I experienced difference clearly in the early 20's. So when juniors come to me worrying about acting, I say, 'Your anxiety may not be a problem in reality. It will work if you do with confidence." There's time when it's better if you just do it without worrying." His philosophy is "Always challenge". "I have attitude toward the life like "Life is a challenge," Even though it might not work, I want to try. I do not want to do only the ones I do well. When people say "Jo Jung-suk", they first think "romantic comedy", but I want to try different things. It is my desire to make filmography with variety. I want to continue my challenge and adventure to the end. "Failure is the mother of success." you know."

Jo stated that his acting roots are "stage". "There are movies and dramas, but I think the stage is my root. There are a lot of things I've experienced on the stage. I did a lot of them. I even have done 4 works in one year. I wonder the stage career I've done has become the basis of my acting." Jo also said there is no secret for his acting skill. "There is no secret. I just work hard. It is important it has to be delicious. I think it is important that you do a lot of thoughts/worries, and find how good a variation you can give to the acting. I prepare well and rehearse it on the set matching to the acting partner."

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Jo recently married to singer Gummy (late 2018). He met his wife in 2013 with the introduction of their friends, and they became close by building trust with the common interests in music. When asked about the change after marriage, Jo said, "It seems that everything is good after marriage. My mind changed to feel stable and secure. Actor can't act if his mind is uneasy, unconscious, or unorganized. I concentrate on the acting more as I feel settled. As a person whose job is acting, it helps a lot." Previously, Jung Sang-hoon(Legal high) said that he heard JJS and Gummy were motivated to marry while watching Jung and his wife. Jo said, "I can't deny it. They really influenced us a lot. They really looked happy. Sang-hoon hyung has been a friendly hyung, -even when he was a bachelor, he worried about acting with me, and there was time we sucked fingers together(starving), and we had a lot of precious memories. As I watch him happy when he got married, I was naturally influenced by that. I was latest getting married among all my friends, and I was influenced watching their happy married life."

Jo said The musical Charlie Brown made him realize what the happiness is. "I played Charlie Brown in 2006. The cartoon is philosophical. In the last number, it says happiness is picking up a pencil, a very small thing. I feel happy when very small, trivial joy accumulates. Then I think happiness index is also increased." Jo also concerned about health more. "Now maybe because I become forty and I am married. I found myself telling my friends "Let's get healthy" more than ever. Before that, I used to say to live happily. But I am not alone anymore. As I feel responsible as a head of a family, I think about my health." He added, "I do not know what it feels like to be fully-grown. I just want to ripe as the head of a family and the actor. Not a cool daddy, a wonderful husband, a great actor but a well-ripen person, going along with getting older, getting more wrinkled, playing fitting to the age with better motivation."

Guerrilla date with JJS, 2016.11.28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FppuprwurwU

I saw JJS first time in the drama "What's Up" which I enjoyed, and loved him(and everyone else-Jung Sang-hoon, Jung Woo and Kang Ha-neul) in Youth over flowers:Iceland episode. They impressed me with their frugal spending ways which they became accustomed to after years of financial hardship pursuing their careers (You remember? In addition to multiple plastic bags filled with free breads they saved in restaurants, they had so much money left at the end of trip unlike other teams like Reply 88 team in Youth over flowers:Africa episode). And how can I forget- beanies were so sad for JJS(and upset with writer) in King 2 Hearts (I even remember to read the fanfic of him and princess' happy ending). Btw another Romcom with Gong Hyo-jin please, dramagods!

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Thanks @fanwho for your hard work. You bring us so much info that would otherwise be lost to us.

Jo Jung Suk is such fun actor to watch. It's great to know that he's upright and a person of integrity. I liked how in Oh My Ghostess he was trying not to laugh at Park Bo Young's antics. I'm not surprised that he says he's most like the character in King2Hearts. And no wonder his acting is 'full-body-language' acting, since he started off on stage. With both failures and success, he gives all of us hope and confidence to keep at it. Thanks again! 😊

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Thanks for translating interviews every week!

I discovered him in What's Up too and follow him since then. It's nice to know his thoughts on acting and theater. He always gives everything he has.

Hit-and-run squad was a nice movie and JJS's portrayal of stuttering was great. I stutter so it made me happy to not see a caricature. Hopefully, it will lead him to more diverse roles.

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Dear @fanwho, thanks for translating and commenting on the articles on Jo Jung-seok. Daebak!

JEALOUSY INCARNATE was my introduction to his work, which prompted me to watch THE KING 2HEARTS, which I also loved. Ditto his merman cameo in LEGEND OF THE BLUE SEA, which was very touching. TWO COPS wasn't the greatest drama, but JJS's dual role was terrific. He and Kim Sun-ho were marvelous together.

I'm really enjoying his performance in NOKDU FLOWER.

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Thank you very much!

I love this actor since What's up ! His singind and acting were so great! I'm sad they didn't release the OST.

Since I watched all his dramas ! Seeing in Radio Star playing his different roles was really funny and I was really impressed!

It's funny because he acted with almost all the very famous young idols like IU, Suzy, Hyeri and now Yoona.

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@fanwho

Thanks for sharing these interviews with us!

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Thanks for this! That was a good read.

I used to not have a "favourite" actor since I just watch the drama if it interests me but after Jealousy Incarnate, I thought Jo Jungseok is the best! He's very sincere and works hard. YoF made me love him more seeing that the sincerity I saw through his acting is still there when he's not in the spotlight. His love for stage is also very admirable. When he was asked in Life Bar why he decided to do a musical the day after OMG ended filming, he said the stage is rest for him. It's not work, it's a place he can rest and feel comfortable in. I've teared up watching him say that. What an inspirational man.

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There were also interviews from the casts in "Waikiki 2" now that the show ended, and one of them was Moon Ga-young (23). Per Wiki, debuted with film "To Sir, with Love", and drama "Fallen Angel, Jenny" in 2006, she is veteran actress with over 10 years of acting experience. Her father was a physicist and her mother was a musician, and they went to Germany to study and married. So Moon was born and grew up in Germany until she returned home when she was in the third grade of elementary school. She can speak Korean, English and German (but she says she speaks zero language because they are lacking). She started acting as a coincidence when her uncles submitted her and her sister's pictures in a playful fashion to a company looking for advertising model.

[Starnews, 2019.05.17] Moon played Han Soo-yeon who was the first love of Cha Woo-sik (Kim Sun-ho), Lee Jun-ki (Lee Yi-kyung), and Kook Gi-bong (Shin Hyun-soo) showing the image of youth living in this period struggling. Her acting drew viewers' attention through comical acting. Here is Q&A session.
Q: How do you feel now that "Waikiki 2" ended?
Moon: I still think about the set. I feel strange because I don't report after having reported every day. The film set is in Paju, and I still feel like I need to go.

Q: What does this work mean to Moon Ga-young?
Moon: I enjoyed filming. I wonder if I can find another project I get ruined like in Waikiki. I did it because I thought I wouldn't be able to do it if I don't do it now. I hope people remember the most youthful and innocent 20's Moon Ga-young with this show.

Q: Season 1 was loved so much. Did you feel burdensome doing the season 2?
Moon: It seems that there was a burden to meet expectations and love season 1 enjoyed. Since season 1 received much love, I thought people might love season 2 too.

Q: This time, you attracted the attention of viewers doing comical acting, risking of ruining your image. What was it like doing the comic acting? You didn't feel burdened?
Moon: No. I didn't have any burden. I did male disguise as well as action before. It was challenge and joy. I plan to keep challenging. Unless I do a web drama, I don't have chance to do exaggerated comical acting. After the drama "The Great Seducer" was over, I tried to show a different image. So I was more excited than having fear. There was no burden of comic acting.

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Q: What is it if you had memorable comical performance that made viewers laugh?
Moon: There was a scene I had a lot of worries, and it was to show the tone deaf image. I thought people might feel uncomfortable if I don't do it right. Director-nim told me to be lovely and not to cause trouble. So, it was a burden for two weeks before shooting.

Q: There was even response wondering if you were really tone deaf. Are you really tone deaf?
Moon: If you are confused, I have succeeded. I worried if people might think I actually sing that way, while I had sense of achievement. I found a lot of Seo Min-jung sunbae-nim(High kick 1)'s tone deaf video clips. I also watched "I see your voice". The point of tone deaf was doing shamelessly. I thought it would work if I did proudly without feeling embarrassed.

Q: There was a response to image of "first love" in the show. How did you try to portray it?
Moon: I am grateful viewers saw it favorably. I wanted to show a different kind of first love even though I had desire to match the image of first love many people had in mind. I thought I'd show the figure Cha Woo-sik, Lee Jun-Ki, and Kook Gi-bong would love, rather than everybody's pure and innocent first love.

Q: How was acting breath with Kim Sun-ho you had romance-line with, which made the viewers flustered?
Moon: Actually we are 10 years apart in ages. Many people stunned about that saying we didn't look like that, and we looked good together. I talked with Sun-ho oppa a lot. He took my acting in so well that our acting breath matched good. It was enjoyable work.

Q: How was working with other casts?
Moon: It was good and I got closer to them than any other time. Lee Yi-kyung was laughter bomb. I did "The mirror of Witch" with him so I knew him. I had hard time that time too. I had to hold my laughter. He is a character who triggers laugh on the set. Lee Yi-kyung oppa was hard-carry(carry the team to victory) in Waikiki 2. He was oppa and colleague I could trust and felt assured.
For Kim Ye-won, I did "Jealousy Incarnate" with her. This time too female casts used the same waiting room. So we had lots of time to spend together and talked a lot. Since the set was cheerful, we became close.

Q: There was good reaction, but viewer ratings were poor. Is there any disappointment in that part?
Moon: I don't feel disappointed. It is ok since even 1% of viewers watched in good faith to the end. It seems that many people showed interests through the issue and itself became the greatest strength. Also since it was the work produced for exact age group, I don't feel disappointed in ratings.

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Q: Some felt that it wrapped up in a hurry in the ending. What do you think?
Moon: A lot of things prepared were not resolved. I wonder it was wrapped up quickly because we didn't have enough time. I thought that there were lots of materials to tell such as how their dating relationship went after Soo-yeon and Woo-sik kissed.

Q: "Waikiki" became season drama. If there is a production of Season 3, do you plan to join?
Moon: I think I will if viewers want. Actually I want to do it. Since it is a work to be shown and it is a work to show, I should pay back if people want. My door to the role is always open.

Q: Is there anything else you'd like to challenge besides comical acting?
Moon: I did action acting in "Mirror of the Witch" before. I want to do an action scene properly. I want to play the lead in an action project like Jeon Ji-hyun and Ha Ji-won sunbae-nim. And I want people say they watched not feeling awkward.

Q: From childhood to this "Waikiki 2", you've digested many works and characters. Who is your "life character" when you think back?
Moon: There are a lot of people who remember me as Hae-bak in King's family and Ppal-gang(Red) in Jealousy Incarnate. I hope people remember me as Ppal-gang. She was not a character similar to me, but she was intense.

Q: What do you think is your charm being able to do steady work activities?
Moon: I work hard even though it is not awesome acting to appeal to the public and audiences. I don't know what the next work will be, but I want to show another aspect of me challenging new things.

I also remember her as Ppal-gang(JI) the most. Lee Yi-kyung mentioned in his interview that he was surprised with Moon Ga-young the most because she acted so well and her smartness was clearly shown.MGY fighting!

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Been so long since I last joined an Open Thread! How's everyone doing?

I'm going to the NCT concert in Vancouver on Sunday. Anybody else going? Let's be friends!

As for the dramas, of course, I haven't been watching... This always happens to me. Like midway, I just stop no matter how I like the show. I'm two weeks behind on Her Private Life and Nokdu Flower. I just can't make myself watch them. Sigh. And it's not the show, it's me.

Interestingly, I have no problem rewatching dramas. While on this slump, I've rewatched Tree (SFD is not available on viki anymore booo) and Signal. Rewatching Signal made me more frustrated with all the injustice that's happening in this world. Like ugh if you have money, you get away with crime. It's so freaking unfair and we all know it's happening. This has been going on for centuries and I feel so hopeless at the thought of us living through all of that forever. On that note, I'd be really mad if Oh Jinpyo (from Beautiful World) does not get at least jailed. Seon-ho, wake up soon!

That wa just me mostly ranting lol. May everyone have an awesome weekend!

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Hi @earthna Glad you're back. I'm a bit on the slumpish side myself, at least with regards to kdramas. Absolute Boyfriend does however look promising. :-D

I may consider more re-watches too. I'll probably see more things with 'new' eyes, another time around!

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Is that the one with Yeo Jingoo? Wow. Time flies. I still see him as our little boy so I cant get used to seeing him as the lead adult. Lol.

Rewatches are awesome!

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Yes, with Yeo Jin Goo and he still looks like a bigger sized, little boy to me!!! Heheheh!

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Guess we can just never escape that lol

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Hi everyone!

Dropping in to share that tomorrow Shin Sung Rok will have a fansigning event. Ehehehe

That's all. And no. I'm not going. 🤣

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