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Open Thread #733

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Watching today's cricket matches and live at reddit cricket.

The best part to see is how fans react. dishing your team. dishing other team. dishing your players based on race and religion and then going ahead with dishing another team for not performing well and not giving you the opportunity to throw eggs on the fans of a team.

Here you are not talking about a sport and a team but few nation states. It can ruin a lot of fun of sports but it can be pretty good entertainment drama where everyone is having a go at everyone other.

Social media atmosphere always remains on boil and that's where the most profit comes for these networks. The more the reaction the more the anger and hatred the more they affect and have control over you. Not so smart identities converse on these platforms and common sense is rarely prevails here.

You can't sum up everything in the name of trolling when intentions as well as actions are highly aggressive for not so cute reasons.

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Views - great.
Outcome - not much so.
To have some taste of good i left it in hands of family and yep things going well.

Festival season is on - religious festivals - Business season is up.

2021 - female sports in news for any reasons.
1st it was beach handball team -
The we have Chinese tennis and
we also have a high school guys doing verbal sexual attack on opposition team.

Cricket is too mild for any of this action - crciketers get lot of trolled comments from the spectators sitting near boundary and even get abuse when spectators get fully drunk but it remains till that. Racist words and discrimination also happen. But still things remain more or less calm but

But Yorkshire got what it deserved - These things do happen.

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Weather - These dudes are playing joke. They know they are rich and they have like 20-30 years to live so why care..
Do goals make any sense? better put money here and do the research and develop technologies that can reduce what have you done to mother earth. naah let's have fun few more years and then we will see as typhoon strikes. Thing is much of the population shows no interest or little interest and then cry when mother earth teaches them some lesson.

Cold season - Little Boy is in action once more.

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November brings about the lists, the best and worst of 2021. There was a recent drama poll that listed the best dramas of the year. A secondary poll showed the worst. Oddly, some shows were on both lists.

It may show a polarizing change in viewing habits and cookie-cutter script formulas running their course. This year I have noticed that I am more likely to drop a drama early than later. I also noticed that I will pause when interest fades but not really geared to pick it up again unless there is nothing else to do.

Part of the situation is that time is a finite commodity in people's lives. We do not want to waste it. Some believe entertainment is a waste of time but it does serve a relaxing, stress releasing purpose. Unless, of course, you get sucked into the quicksand of a story that goes off the rails over and over again.

In that vain, I think it is easier to nominate the WORST series of the year than the subjective best. To me the worst series starts with a good premise, good lead characters, fine actors, quirky plot then for no apparent reason falls off cliff after cliff of disappointing, illogical nonsense. I was left with many series thinking "this could have been better." My nominee for worst 2021 series was the promising then turned into dumpster fire OH MY LANDLORD.

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Or as many lists call it OH MY MASTER. In any event, it had a no-miss premise of an odd couple under one roof comedy that soured into the worst kind ending.

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"Soured" is a very polite term. To me, it was more like a "illegal lab exploded in basement taking half the street with it" kind of ending.

And I completely agree with this nomination.

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I will vote, and also vote again for this as worst drama. What an utter waste of talent and premise.

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Did you watch DoDo to the bitter end, by any chance? Certainly MM/ML was bad - but for sheer self assassination, and for making its audience feel like dodos for watching it, I think nothing beats DoDoโ€ฆ

Returning to memory wiping process.
Beep. Error. BSD. Reboot.
Returning to memory wiping process.
Beep. Error. BSD. Reboot.
Returningโ€ฆ

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@hebang you know it's still weird that whilst DoDo is absolutely objectively terrible and its betrayal awful, I didn't and still don't feel anything but morbid amusement by it all.

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@sicarius. Enlightenment has, our Queen.

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@hebang I think I watched one or two episodes of Do Do, and didn't care. To be fair, I finished very very few dramas in the last two years.

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Oh My Landlord was so inexplicably bad that I looked up the screenwriter. He (yes, a rare male screenwriter) has a history of sloppy hack work. I joked at the time that the producers of 'Melting Me Softly' must've bribed someone to make a K-drama worse that theirs.

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May I nominate Sisyphus the Myth? or Sisymess? or Sisyphus the Meth? or Sisymess the Fuss? You choose.

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I could endure Alice, but I could last only until ep8 of this one. That was surely something.

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I didn't make it a full episode of that one and also left very early into Oh My Landlord. I dropped so many dramas this year.

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You haven't got into the gist of Sisymess! You have to watch 7 more episodes and then drop it so that you could taste the bitterness of my heart when people speaking about it.

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But of course this show has never existed in @pickleddragon's universe. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Nope. The forever long almost plane crash did me in.

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They DID USE THAT RED DUCK TAPE OMG.
You are MISSING SO MANY THINGS such as the flying Coke missiles. You NEED TO LAST UNTIL THAT OFC.

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I guess my tolerance was just too low this year.

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Should I say that the show, the ONLY SHOW, that you and me like this year is Darli? Wow.. the curse is real.

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I watched Duct Tape Rescue Op. It is forever seared into my brain. From now on, duct tape will be an essential accessory in my luggage on flights.

But yes, this show doesn't exist. CSW cannot possibly have chosen to work on a masterpiece like this surely.

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Really, Pickle, it must have been a doppelgรคnger of CSW. ๐Ÿฅบ

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Right there with you mmmmm. Except Sisyphus lacks one of the criteria which is "good premise". It could become the "Plan 9 From Outer Space" of Kdramas though. Just thinking of the duct tape, coke bottle missiles, river searches by blind guys, a POS sedan taking out a passenger van - gosh we could go on and on, eh? Name your favorite plot hole.....

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The favorite plot hole is that I typed โ€œduck tapeโ€ instead of โ€œduct tapeโ€! ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿคฃ

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I'd nominate Oh My Ladylord anytime any day. It is one series I can't still bring myself to watch the finale because it was getting so annoying. Never have I been pissed at a male lead for been obnoxious and to think that male lead was LMK, its more heartbreaking.

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I also recommend Do Do Sol Sol. It started with so much funny potential, and good actors, but went downhill half way through the series when it was revealed the male character was only a high schooler. THEN it managed to even get worse.

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Under the criteria listed for worst series of the year my nominee might not qualify but I will submit it to the judges anyway:
OCN/tvNโ€™s DARK HOLE. Reviewing my viewing log for 2021 DH is definitely the โ€˜stinkerโ€™ of the year. I watched all 12 episodes for one reason: Lee Joon-hyuk (1984).

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Do dailies count? In that case, the worst series of the year is The Red Shoes. Most unlikable female protagonist I have ever seen in a drama.

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Not sure that A Good Supper doesn't beat that to the bottom. You have to search the reviews on Viki to find one that's not 1-star. Writer had a pretty good rep, the setup was interesting, the female lead looked to be star-material, and the plot seemed to have the potential of demonstrating how strength of character makes a hero(-ine), the last of which is what I look for in a drama. Instead (according to those who could persevere), we got a makjang teasing a taboo. At least Alice was never sappy and Kim Hee Sun's clear separation of the 2 characters made the taboo a little less grating.

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I've started over 40 dramas this year and liked only about 5. The worst is pretty hard to pick for me and would DEFINITELY be controversial even if I managed to narrow it down ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…

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This will be my lowest bean count so far.

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I think my completion rate this year is probably pretty good BUT there has been liberal embracing of the fast forward button.

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I don't know if it's too early to call. But I have a feeling Jirisan may be a prime contender for a top3 position. Certainly for wasting a fine fine ensemble cast.

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!
November again, Nanowrimo again. I am not participating, but good luck and happy writing to Beanies who are taking part!โœ๏ธ

On that note: Is anyone up for another end of the year challenge? I am continuing my end of the year review tradition in December, but the more the merrier! Last year some Beanies made a December Drama roundup for 2020 and I was wondering if there would be candidates willing to create, participate in or just read a December Drama roundup 2021. Things still are not great in the world, so a nice reminder of great K-drama moments in 2021 might do wonders!๐Ÿ˜Š

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Iโ€™m up for that!

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Nice! If all goes well you should notice something on the fan walls next month!๐Ÿ˜

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Hello Turtle. *waves*

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Turtie I'm so sorry! The autocorrect thing happened and when I realized it I already clicked "send"! ๐Ÿ˜ญ I tried to undo it but it didn't work. So again -take 2

Hello Turtie! *waves*

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Aww, now I got greeted twice by a lovely Beanie friend!๐Ÿฅฐ Any turtle variant gets my attention, no harm done!๐Ÿ˜‰

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Ok! โ™ฅ๏ธ

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I'd be up for it, but I also know nothing about anything, lol.

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No pressure! There is no need to contribute/participate or even read anything! I am just trying to include anyone who might be interested!๐Ÿ˜Š

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Yay, good one, Turtie! You've brought drama roundup back! I remember that last year it was really fun. Maybe we could put some new prompts together. Beanies, any ideas?

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Good thing you asked....๐ŸคญLook what I keep around for this purpose!๐Ÿคฃ
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/flyingcolours/activity/1168418/?nid=3270484&nidwpc=1168418

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Yay! That sure makes it easier. Eazal thought them out and it was really fun. So @eazal, what do you think about reusing them? I'd just like to suggest a change: given the amount of fantastic creatures going around Dramaland (just on the top of my head, I can think of gumihos, reappers, demons, assorted gods and counters) this year, I'd like to contemplate them in a prompt - "Best magical creature", maybe? I'm sure Beanies' input about that one can get really fun and unexpected

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Oh, I've been taking notes on some possible new themes, teheee.
I will try and make a new list during this week and post both in the wall and in the OT.
I wanted to add some fun, like: best abs, best Song Kang... and keeping some old ones.
Let's have fun!!!

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Yay! I'm all for fun themes. "Best Song Kang" got me laughing, there's been a lot of him, indeed. Can we also have "Best idol turned actor/ actor turned idol"? There's been some of those too, and there'll also be a couple more of idol dramas before the end of the year ๐Ÿค”

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So, you ask and I obey.
I've been working on a list, but it can change, of course. I'm posting it now here and also on my wall.
Any suggestions will be welcomed!

1- FL you will never forget (for better or worse).
2- ML you will never forget (for better or worse).
3- PPL well done.
4- The drama you just finished for the bean.
5- The drama you know you will rewacth.
6- The OST you are obsessed with.
7- The OTP you didnโ€™t think you would adore.
8- The drama beanies convinced you to watch and you canโ€™t be grateful enough.
9- The oldie (not 2021) you loved the most.
10- The drama that could have been but it wasnโ€™t (If only they listened to beanies).
11- Secondary character that stole your heart and the show (SL, villains, kidโ€ฆ).
12- Best quote / oneliner.
13- The drama that made you emotional.
14- Most memorable scene.
15- That unexpected cameo that blew up your mind.
16- Best mythological / magical creature.
17- Best idol turned actor/ actor turned idol.
18- Best Song King (or any other ML who got at least three dramas as a lead this year).
19- Best SooYoung (or any other FL who got at leas three dramas a as lead this year).
20- Best abs (hehe).
21- That cute little drama.
22- That character that deserved its own drama.

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Woahhh!! Already excited!
Wait, but how do we do it, all these?

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It's one a day, from December 1. You participate in the ones you want, just like that.
This Friday I will post the updated list and if you want to check the latest list and make suggestions, please visit my wall.

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Got it!! One question: the dramas here should be from those which aired in 2021 or which we saw in 2021?! Cause I started watching dramas this year and most of them aired before 21.confused!!

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It would be better to talk about dramas aired in 2021, but you can choose whatever you want.
Please visit my wall and you will see my last post about โ€œwhat is this about?โ€ It can help you!

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Coffee, anyone? ๐Ÿ’œ
Got myself a Fredit BTS Vanilla Latte.

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This week was not my favourite ever - had a scary overnight hospital stay with my smallest one needing oxygen and half-hourly inhalers to deal with a breathing issue she suddenly developed. Iโ€™ve spent the days since trying to relax but still feeling very tense. But, sheโ€™s now fine and I am glad we live in a place where hospital care is easily accessible and affordable.

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Oh.. beffels I'm so happy that your smallest is doing fine now! That must have been very scary for you. How relieving this news is!

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Thanks โค๏ธ It all happened very fast which is what makes it so scary!

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Oh no. I'm glad your little one is doing ok now, but how scary for you.

We went through this same situation a couple of times when my kiddo was younger, and it's extremely tense and frustrating. Good luck and much power to you.

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Thanks โค๏ธ Itโ€™s apparently really common but itโ€™s never happened for my kids before so it freaked me out a lot!

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We were caught unawares the first time too. Total panic, trip to the emergency room, etc. Parenting is hard.

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O/n hospital experiences with a child are the pits. It's like being in a nether world, a liminal space. Reality is distorted. The sounds. The smells. The worry. It's good you are back home. You'd need time to catch up on sleep too. Be kind to yourself on re-entry.

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Thanks โค๏ธ I think that was the least sleep Iโ€™ve had overnight since she was brand new.

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Given a choice between happiness or melancholia I choose HAPPINESS. Welcome back Park Hyun-sik. Good luck to the subtitling team at Viki.

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Hello Beanies! Happy Friday!

Yesterday was Diwali, which is a big thing in my family. So even though it was just us and I only have half of a working kitchen these days, I did put in some effort, got dressed up, etc. It was fun, but I'm over it, lol.

Now that the first season of Yumi's Cells is done, and Dali and Gamjatang only has a couple of episode left in its run, I'm feeling a bit bereft of k-drama right now. Also, the new info re: all the US remakes of some hit dramas is giving me a bit of pause. Sigh.

Anyone have any good drama recs to share? Older stuff is fine, as is fluff that's done well. But what I really want is something that will make me laugh out loud.

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What news about US remakes? I haven't heard anything on that front for a while. There seem to have been a number of projects over the last few years that were announced but ended up in development limbo, like Nine Time Travels and W.

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And given what happened to The Good Doctor, maybe it's a good thing if they do end up in limbo. Just sayin' - it's just another revolving-door-cast multi-season medical drama in the US.

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Oh my gosh. It's W (to be called Angel City), it's the CW, and, well, the 100 or so fans of Batwoman and Supergirl will be happy. I guess.

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The CW being involved with W feels a bit on the nose, given their track record for rebooting things.

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It will be terrible.

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It is really hard to imagine Crash Landing On You in another setting, but you never know. It might never happen of course - a while ago there was a lot of talk about remaking Strong Woman Bong Soon using a UFC fighter as the lead (which completely ignores the whole concept of Bong Soon not looking strong) but nothing seems to have come of it.

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One idea I saw tossed around was a US protagonist crash landing in Cuba.

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American production companies were also going to remake Sky Castle and Hotel Del Luna but the premises are so steeped in Korean culture to be almost untransferrable. A drama about children of the American rich studying too hard? The CW did do the series 'Frequency' which was a poor man's 'Signal', though they deny the connection.

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Not sure what dramas you've already seen so I'll recommend some older rom-coms I don't see mentioned often:
- Witch's Romance (with adorable young Park Seo-joon)
- Wish Upon a Star (fast-forward through every scene with the second female lead though!)
- Among sageuks - Arang and the Magistrate, Queen In-hyun's Man
- 20th Century Boy and Girl (friends to lovers done right)

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I haven't seen any of these, so thank you for the rec!

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I'll recommend Queen Inhyuns man any day. Best OTP. Actually I recommended it to someone in the last week's open thread.

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My favourite older drama, which genuinely makes me laugh is The Greatest Love (Best Love).

More recently The Secret Life of My Secretary is nice and fluffy.

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Thank you!

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I second TSLOMS, because Veronica Park!!! And fish resuscitation!

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Ex Girlfriend Club is funny.

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Thank you!

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(Also amazing theme song haha)

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I remember enjoying that one when it aired and was bummed when it got cut down to 12 episodes midway.

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Thinking of LOL, Chief Kim comes to mind ๐Ÿ˜†

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Oh, and also Marriage Not Dating! Iโ€™m inspired to watch it right now myself.

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Love that one. Just so funny.

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Be Melo/Melo is My Nature made me laugh out loud and tear up with nearly every episode. First couple eps are a little rough, but hang in.

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Thatโ€™s one of my favorites, and I routinely recommend it to others too.

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Beanies, I accidentally sent a message to my boss at work meant for my colleague. Just me slightly venting about a patient being late and a ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ emoji. Oh SO embarrassing!

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Argh, itโ€™s so easily done! At least you werenโ€™t venting about your boss!

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True but now I'll quadruple check my threads from now on.

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I'm riting for dramalover4ever. They call me Bo and tell me I'm a ๐Ÿ• She walks me and feeds me now my REAL family has gone to NZ, wotever that means. They tell me I'm going there too soon, flying. Not sure how that happens. I hope it means lots of trets becuz I'm ๐Ÿ‘Œ with trets. Anyway I just popped by to say ๐Ÿ‘‹ while she's watching Bad Guys, Vile City. Lots of fighting, by the looks. She thinks I'm just an ordinary dog, but there's nothing ordinary about me. I rite critikal revews for The Dog House. u can see I can rite and do not suffer any deficits from not having opposable thumbs. She tells me there are ๐Ÿ‘ in NZ and ๐Ÿ‡. Looking forward to meeting them too. I hope they are frendli.

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Iโ€™m very impressed at your typing and vocabulary, Bo ๐Ÿ˜‚ none of the NZ dogs I know are so clever ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I've been edukated. I'm an ekul opportunity ๐Ÿ•

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For shame NZ eye dogs are very clever, and The Dog would love to disagree ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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The Dog is a legnd. I Bo want to be The Dog when I gro up, so when I arrive I hope we can meet up for a sniffathon. .

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I think The Dog would be very proud of such a goal. The first step is to be raised by cats, however.

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Razed by Kats?!!! That will never do. I have a kollectn of kats notched on my koller. I ned to met them, if u get my drift. I'll be razing them. Digging holes, planting them face down and watering them frekuentli. That's the way it is with kats here. I can see changes will ned to be made in NZ.

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... The is Meg, the current Royal Court cat of Melonia. If you want to be The Dog when you grow up, you will have to learn the superiority of cats.
However from the sounds of it, you might be on our royal hit list for your razing and planting of cats... unless you're planning on starting a cat clone army, in which case the crown will be seizing your property shortly. ;) For definitely not nefarious means, at all.

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Ur quite strict in NZ, Meg, I can see, but u'll neva know until the bodies turn up. *growly lauff*

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You underestimate my Queen.

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If the Queen has a wily and untrustworthy self-seeking kat, I must revise my opinion of her realm. She needs a Bo boi to reinstate ๐Ÿ• rules.

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ wait till you find out she's part cat herself...

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Part kat explains much: the voice like the wind shuffling dry leaves, hissing...

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Hi Bo. Iโ€™m Cookie, a dog of M. She is extremely cute. *Im saying this because Iโ€™m bribed*
Donโ€™t try to kill and eat sheep in NZ. The poor thing canโ€™t even stand again by itself it something bumps into them and makes them fall.

You should learn to write correctly, Bo.

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Hi Cookie, you sound cute too. Do u mean the sheep fall over? That sounds like fun. Nok em over sheep. Wanna play? But wot do u mean, "write correctly"? Are you a superior Cookie?

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This is Dobby & Sirius, cat-masters over Lord Cobol. Did you get permission from your human to use the keyboard? What a wuss. You're supposed to brainwash/bully them into petting you, feeding you, and otherwise just letting you do what you want.

And oh yes, make the spell-check for you :)

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Please see above re kats.

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BTW I thought Dobby was a House Elf

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I am Bobo, Great Cat of the Center of the Americas. ๐Ÿ˜ผ

I was with you, Bo, and hoped you would enjoy meeting the sheep of NZ but . . . Dude, you are โ€˜way barking up the wrong tree to mess with the Queen of Melonia. May you get whatโ€™s coming to you now! ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ˜พ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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Meow~

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Bobo, All Hail, Great Cat of Central America. I come in Pece.

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Oh nOW you don't want to plant cats! I see, I see how it is...

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Pece and Kat planting go nicely together. Pece for me. Pece for the kats. Everyone's peceful.

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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
mmmhmmmmmmm. Weโ€™ve got our eyes on you now. Keep your wits about you, is my advice ๐Ÿ˜ผ

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Iโ€™ve been a terribly naughty girl this week. I wrote a terribly long dramatic essay of โ€ฆ 425 wordsโ€ฆ when there was just NO need to! None at all!
Iโ€™ll try be a better girl next weekโ€ฆ I might write 426 words instead.

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From Hollywood Reporter.

"Why are Netflix's Subtitles So Bad?"
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/why-are-netflix-subtitles-so-bad-1235043051/

In short, cheaply done and no quality control.

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Amazing and horrifying ๐Ÿ˜ฎ what the hell??? 10 or 20 thousand dollars is nothing in a Netflix budget. Iโ€™m appalled.

Odd that they didnโ€™t even mention subtitlers like Viki.

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Probably like most American media, they tend to ignore or have low awareness of non-Western platforms.

Don't know what Viki's subbing teams are like now. Before Rakuten took over, Viki's all-volunteer subbing teams were generally very concerned with training and quality control.

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I have recently noticed some โ€˜shoddyโ€™ subtitles on Viki particularly in episode 11 of THE VEIL for example.

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One thing I noticed with Netflix is that they often hire different translators for each episode of a show. Each translator will translate words/expressions differently. Thereโ€™s a lack of consistency in how the dialogue is translated, which can lead to confusion especially when the same dialogue appears in more than one episode. Another thing that annoys me in particular is when they translate the culture. Example: In the French subtitles for Forest of Secrets, all the Korean justice systemโ€™s terminology was translated using words, titles, and names taken from the French justice system. Iโ€™m not French so I had no idea what they were talking about, which was frustrating. But most importantly, it erased an important part of the Korean culture. It was similar to someone calling the building were the Korean federal government work ยซย The White Houseย ยป or ยซย The Parlementย ยป instead of ยซย The Blue Houseย ยป.

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You can have different subbers but they need to be part of an organized team with an experienced leadership to make/use glossaries and rules for consistency.

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Thanks @snickers for sharing this important article. My response is: disgraceful.
I have said before, Netflix if it wanted to, could donate to the UN, the UN translation service. Netflix should be setting the standard not going on the cheap.
Why am I not surprised. David (Viki volunteers) continue to outclass Goliath (Netflix).

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Apologies to all. It appears that Bo, the dog, slipped his leash this morning and was behaving in an arrogant and inflammatory manner on Open Thread #733. To all those cats who were offended, my apologies, especially to Dobby and Sirius (aka Sinus) @lordcobol , Meg @sicarius (oh, and also to the part-cat sikky). Bobo, Great Cat of the Center of the Americas @bbstl has no need to take offense, and instead should offer an apology, but I'm prepared to overlook that because Bo has been suitably chastised and is now quietly snoring on the couch, having exhausted himself, his typing skills and most of all his spelling efforts. There are some suspicious well-watered mounds in the garden that I don't want to know about. It won't happen again (hopefully). BTW Cookie @mmmmm Bo was wondering if the knock-em-down sheep game was still on?

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Hopefully the suspicious mounds if well looked after will flourish nicely into a new generation of cats that definitely will not take over the world. Cats do have 9 lives ofc ;)

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Bo says not to put your faith in cats.

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Meg says not to put your faith in Bo ;)

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Sagwa, jincha? Bobo thinks not.

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All is forgiven

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Have an apple

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Hello there. My apologies to you for my dogโ€™s action last night. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Cookie loves to boss around another dog we have here, so I think the knock-em down game wonโ€™t be possible for her. ๐Ÿ˜… You know, that self-esteem thing. But again, I hope your dog wonโ€™t knock down too many sheep.. ๐Ÿ‘

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Never mind. Give Cookie a big hug and tell her she is a good girl. Meanwhile Bo will take her great idea to NZ when he goes. He's sure he'll find like minded frens.

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๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ• ๐Ÿ• ๐Ÿ•
๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ
Seems about right

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11-11 and watching all the edits on YouTube for Eternal Monarch because Jo Yeong and Lee Gon were better written as a couple!

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