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My Lovely Liar: Episodes 3-4

Our heroine values honesty above all else, but it turns out the truth isn’t quite as simple as “not a lie.” So when our reclusive composer’s apparent honesty overturns her expectations, she’s both confused and deeply curious about what exactly he may or may not be hiding.

 
EPISODES 3-4

When Do-ha catches Sol-hee removing his mask, all Sol-hee can muster is a small bow and a quiet “Hello…” Shaken, he takes off to spend the night in a hotel, and she searches him up online, cringing over assumptions she’s made about him.

Do-ha’s hotel stay comes to a swift end the next day when he’s caught in a crowd of reporters (they’re here for a different celebrity, but the camera flashes and jostling send him into a flashback-induced panic attack). So back to his temporary home he goes, and Sol-hee just happens to exit the building right when he arrives. After he fails to hide behind the taxi (lol), Sol-hee apologizes for the unmasking.

He’s kept her literally at arm’s length throughout the conversation, but steps protectively in front of her when a desperate-looking man runs up begging to borrow a phone. Do-ha gawks as Sol-hee readily offers the guy hers, along with cash (from Do-ha’s wallet) for a taxi — she, of course, can tell this isn’t a scam, but Do-ha just shakes his head at how naively trusting she appears to be.

From there, little chance encounters continue to nudge them closer together. Like when Sol-hee’s mom drops by asking for money, but mistakenly knocks on Do-ha’s door instead. He overhears her mom accusing her of ruining their family — nine-year-old Sol-hee had innocently offered to help a victim of her mother’s real estate scam, only for the woman to run off with ALL of their money instead of just the amount she’d lost — and having a mother who’s afraid of you is something Do-ha is all too familiar with. When he and Sol-hee end up on their respective balconies that night, he commiserates with her about messy families.

On another night, Sol-hee finds herself at the jazz bar where Do-ha plays piano. While she immerses herself in the music, the gold-digging cheater from last week approaches and gets increasingly threatening. Do-ha again steps in front of her, and since she’s almost too drunk to function, he drives her home — not realizing until she points it out that he’s forgotten his mask.

On the way back, she insists on stopping for hangover soup, sweetly seating him with his back to the room so he’ll feel comfortable enough to eat. But trouble is waiting at their apartment building in the form of two reporters. Now it’s Sol-hee’s turn to protect Do-ha, which she does by bunny-hopping in front of him to hide his face and dragging him into her apartment to hide as the reporters camp out in the hallway.

Awkward cuteness ensues. Do-ha finally learns Sol-hee’s name, and since he doesn’t know she knows he’s Kim Do-ha, he gives her his real name, Kim Seung-joo. Sol-hee was prepared to accept a fake name, so it takes her a second to register that her lie alert didn’t go off. That, combined with Master’s Sun on the TV — in which the hero’s touch neutralizes the heroine’s ghost-seeing abilities — piques her curiosity. Does he never lie (“Everyone lies,” he says), or can she not detect his lies specifically?

Over the next several days, she tries everything she can think of to coax a lie out of him, from prying into his career (Deuk-chan answers for him) to asking outright for him to lie that she’s pretty (Do-ha: “You kind of are, though…”).

They won’t admit it yet, but these two are quickly developing an adorable fondness for each other. Except things get complicated for Sol-hee because an old flame reappears: Kang-min, the police officer we saw last week. He and Sol-hee were briefly engaged (we get glimpses of a magically beautiful proposal) before something happened and he started lying to her.

That’s her #1 dealbreaker, and they haven’t had contact in years — until now, when he transfers to the police station in her neighborhood. On purpose, because he wanted to apologize and knew she’d never meet up with him unless it was by “coincidence.”

The first time they meet, it is by coincidence, as he’s called to deal with the reporters who cornered Do-ha in Sol-hee’s apartment. But then Kang-min seeks her out at the tarot café at closing, and much as I want to like him (he seems genuine), there’s something slightly unsettling about it all. And yet again, Do-ha is there to step between them. Sol-hee lies that he’s her boyfriend, and he plays along, walking her home hand-in-hand just to be safe.

Meanwhile, Do-ha is dealing with a complicated relationship of his own. Or, rather, the relationship Sha-on wants to have with him. He’s been in her corner since before her debut, and now she’s desperate for his attention. When she exaggerates a dance injury to gain sympathy points, Do-ha realizes things have gone too far and talks to Deuk-chan about no longer writing exclusively for her.

Sha-on takes the news hard. She calls Do-ha to say goodbye, and it’s so similar to what happened with his ex-girlfriend, who threatened (and perhaps succeeded?) to kill herself when he broke up with her, that Do-ha panics. Sol-hee drives him to the beach where Sha-on is wading into the waves, and Do-ha wordlessly drags Sha-on out of the water and carries her to the car. Sha-on pouts when she sees Sol-hee, who chooses not to say anything when Sha-on’s pointed “I wanted to die” pings as falsehood.

After handing Sha-on off to her manager, Do-ha falls asleep, dreaming about his past interrogation when the officer screamed at him to confess. As Sol-hee tries to wake him up, he murmurs, “I didn’t kill her.” And there it is: the lie Sol-hee has been waiting for.

If there’s one thing this week hammered home, it’s that Sol-hee’s lie detection itself can be misleading. Her clients’ boyfriend was lying about being busy with work and cagey about marriage… because he was planning a surprise proposal. Do-ha dodges risky questions by giving technically true but vague answers. Nonverbal cues (like nodding in agreement with someone else’s lies) don’t have any effect on her at all. So I imagine Do-ha’s “lie” is more a case of him believing he’s responsible for the girl’s death, and not what it sounds like to Sol-hee. He considers it a lie, the words ping as false — but the truth may be a lot more complicated.

I’m also really interested in the conversation the show seems to be setting up about the dangers of being so wrapped up in another person that you can’t seem to exist separately from them anymore. Do-ha’s professional relationship with Sha-on was (and in some ways still is) supportive and sweet, but he’s right that its exclusivity, especially on her part, is unhealthy. Sentiments like “You’re all I have/need” are often romanticized in life and in Dramaland, so I appreciate that My Lovely Liar appears to be steering away from that in favor of building a relationship where the two people have support systems and interests both shared with and separate from each other.

 
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Sol-hee loves truth but the world is not black or white. She didn't ask the truth, she just thought it's a lie, it's bad. But she's the biggest liar. She was thinking to marry someone who doesn't know her real activity. I understand her mother accusing her of ruining their family made her not ready to tell her secret. The mother is the worst. But it's different in this case. He was the man of life in theory and she lied. And she lied about the boyfriend (but at least it's to watch her with Do-Ha).

Do-Ha is the worst at hidding... He's obvious in eberything he does. But I like the fact he doesn't lie but just doesn't tell all the truth. I was surprised his real name wasn't seen in her research as the son of politician or the suspect in a murder.

Yunayaaa is worst in this drama. At least she was kinda funny in Shooting Stars. But suicide blackmail is bad.

I need a first role for my Ji-Hoon.

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I like that Yunayaaa is still how we're calling her xD I can hear the voice of the manager.

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I don't think Sol-hee necessarily values truth over lies nor does she necessarily believe the world is black and white. She lives with a ringing sound in her ears to the constant lies (no matter how small) that people tell and it wears her out. We can see how little Sol-hee actually reacts with pain when the bell rings to the lies of the lady. She prefers to surround herself with people who speak little to no lies because its a more peaceful world for her. Her truth seeking abilities are clearly for the sake of money and she did mention that a few times last week. I don't think she explicitly lied to her boyfriend about her job but more like would he really believe her to be not crazy if she said that. In fact even after she tells him about hearing lies when she broke up he didn't actually believe her, we can see in their reunion he's still thinking of her tarot profession. I don't believe she can be blamed for ruining the family as a child because she reacted to what she believed was right and anyways the mother scamming people is wrong but Sol-hee was too young to understand the consequences of revealing the truth to a stranger.

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I also think Sol-hee thinks of herself as a truth seeker simply because she can hear lies. She also thinks its also fair for her to use small lies since she knows in her head that those lies aren't real but she can't apply that same sentiment to others because she can't read minds only hear their words.

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She didn't really let him a chance. First, let's break up then oh by the way i hear the lies, finally goodbye.

She never took the time to tell him the truth because she wasn't confident. It's sad, he's a cop, they would have made a good team :p

If now, she's starting to realize how her power can be tricky, in the past, she seemed to see everything in black and white, a relationship ends when there is a lie.

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She may have walked away from that conversation but he was the one who walked away from her life without even trying to win her back. Besides, what we see in that scene is just one small conversation which must have built up over weeks of him lying to her over and over. That's not okay in any relationship and whatever the circumstances were that forced him to lie the fact remains he chose not to share his burdens with her and that would not have been a happy marriage or relationship even if she couldn't hear lies. I'm not sad about them breaking up but yes Seo ji-hoon was amazing in the small scenes he's had so far and I loved the cute proposal scene and wish it had been longer.

Sol-hee might not be oblivious to the loopholes in her power but it was the declaration by the client who chose to believe in her boyfriend over Sol-hee that shook her. She believed in his sincerity rather than the lies he apparently spoke in that conversation and Sol-hee was taken aback that her faith in boyfriend was actually worth it because he did love her. Sol-hee didn't think the boyfriend was wrong to lie to her for preparing the surprise when she figured out the scenario. Which is why I don't fully believe she only looks at the world as black and white but like I said she can't read minds so its easier for her to believe in the words that she hears and add her own interpretation to it.

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I'm speaking about what we know now.

We know nothing about their relationship but she talked about past days, not like he was always lying to her. And we don't know yet why he left suddenly.

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That's my point. She said it herself that he's been lying to her for a while and that's why she finally she decided to pull the plug. That conversation was her giving him one last chance to be truthful. It was a fair breakup she didn't deserve to be treated that way. He should have told her honestly what the situation was.

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They both lied to each other and the both of them don't know why the other lied. They're both guilty in their break-up. But she was the one who gave him back the ring and left and he didn't stop her.

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"She may have walked away from that conversation but he was the one who walked away from her life without even trying to win her back."

This! I know we don't know a lot of exactly what went down, but even if he has a valid reason for doing so, I think you're spot on in pointing out that he's at fault too for also just quitting cold turkey after they had that fight - especially because it was clear she was upset he wouldn't answer her question about marriage nor resolve the questions she had about what he was actually doing.

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@lapislazulii Exactly its clear that his lies were making her increasingly miserable and as someone who yearns for love its understandable why she jumped to the worst conclusion. Especially since he never gives her a clear response. The lack of communication between them (for whatever reason) is clearly visible and I don't fault her for breaking up with him at that point. Its also what has colored her view about romantic relationships and why she went into that proposal scene with a possible bias against the fiance.

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I originally put this on my Watchlist because I'm semi-interested in AoS cast members (Hwang Min) but once I found out Ji-hoon would be in the drama, my heart sank - another SML role. 😢😢 And although I knew Yunayaaa would be in the drama, I didn't recognize her at first.

Early press releases on the drama explain Ji-hoons character, but since they are keeping it a secret in the drama for now, I'll suffer through the angst, except to say there is a good reason why Mr. Puppy Eyes was chosen for the role.

Meanwhile, must wait for Ji Hoon's first main role in King of Saju

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Why can't he just be a jazz pianist (who studied classically, lmao?). Why does this have to be 1/3 idol drama. I don't LIKE idol dramas*. 😂😂😂
Jazz >>>>>>>>

(*not written by me and exception/s not included)

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for real! jazz pianist is so much cooler. and maybe shaon couldve been jazz singer? 😆

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Sha-on lacks the class!

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I guess you can’t be rich by just being a jazz pianist, plus again being musician is somewhat closer to real Minhyun probably

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Why on earth couldn't you be rich being a famous jazz pianist?
And he could still write music. Doesn't have to be for the idol world, even if that IS lucrative.

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Actually, for that matter, I'm not convinced "Rich" factors into his character enough for him to be making the exact amount of money as this version to even be an issue.
Writing out the idol side would require plenty of other changes too.
None of which I would have a problem with leaving behind. 😂

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Then I have another idea, they have too much respect to jazz singers to make Shaon a jazz singer, cuz she is so shallow, doesn’t have sophistication required, plus they probably are targeting young generation and Minhyun/Nuest fans, so thought including idol and K-pop will make it more appealing, I think too much into it 😁

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Lol! I mean yes, the questions posed initially were rhetorical.
I just think jazz would more interesting as a focal point, and don't like either idol side of it whether it's there for a justifiable reason or not, and don't like how Korea writes idol dramas anyway. 😅😂

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But jazz is the focal point. It’s where all the love and real humanity is. It’s where everyone can be themselves.

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@attiton
I am going to a Pedant (as usual) and say I disagree.
A potential thematic core or motif perhaps, yes, but not the focal point of the drama, or even the focal point of the music side; we do not spend nearly enough time on it for it to be that.
Indeed, we have not even spent enough time on it, nor paid it enough attention (focus) yet for it to be a proper thematic motif. 🤭

The show is, alas, too busy with its too many other moving parts.

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The only important places in the world are where you can express yourself freely and where you forget to wear your mask.

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@attition
If it develops that part of the show more, and allows that to be a recurring theme properly, and for jazz to facilitate the motif, I'm on board with it.
For truth, freedom and expression to prevail over constraint and lies, is a valuable Thematic direction, and it already has the narrative devices set up for it, that I will concede to you: jazz vs kpop, masks vs not, hiding vs being known, etc etc.

But the show hasn't earnt jazz being a "Focal Point" in my opinion yet. It needs to do MORE. We've had one scene where I have felt that that was really the purpose of the scene, and the facilitated thematic purpose, that Jazz was this escape for her (and so in parallel for him), a peace, a quiet that is not quiet.

So I stand by what I said previously.
I also think it still has too many moving parts to really deliver on that thematic nuance in a way I will find satisfying.

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(I forgot a scene, but it was half a scene, so 1.5 scenes, where they've used Jazz for that thematic purpose properly.)

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@attiton I'm sorry I'm still talking 🤣

And, even if they DID develop it well, it STILL wouldn't be the focal point, it would just be a narrative device and a central thematic motif/metaphor/whatever you wanna call it!
The focal point, thematically, would still be Truth vs Lies first, and literally, about whatever gets the most screentime, and whatever the plot is about, which is still not Jazz! Which is what I meant originally. 😂😂😂

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The only important places in the world are where you can express yourself freely and where you forget to wear your mask.

This is me agreeing with you, saying that the drama is about truth vs. lies. Jazz is where truth happens musically and, so far, environmentally.

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Lol! I gotcha! Just think of my replies as thematic rambles~ ;)

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Unless you are at the level of Chick Corea, that is rather hard! :-D

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I found the fact that he’s a jazz pianist who studied classical music funny too but I don’t think many people get it. 😅

I guess it would kinda make sense to think that he just got pushed into being a pop composer because he couldn’t do anything else especially if he’s trying to hide himself like that (and kpop is very relevant in the k world right now lol). Also, it’s more convenient for him to be closely associated with a popular idol to really drive the plot about the public’s interest in his identity and everyone trying to violate his privacy.

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Kekekeke Right?? Where's THAT drama 🤭🤭

Again, there doesn't actually have to be a realistic reason for it. 🤣
I just don't like the idol side of the drama, and I don't like idol dramas, and I could do without it, personally. Would that require other changes to make the story work? Sure. Would be impossible? No. Would I mind? Not in the slightest.
But then I like this drama a lot less than the average viewer and could do without a lot of other things also; I'm not particularly attached to any of it to overly justify its existence.

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Honestly though, before the drama I had no idea Minhyun is so good in piano, he definitely is one of those kids who had no childhood probably, school, music and sports

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Current KPop can be VERY sophisticated... sometimes. I recall hearing an IU song some years back and thinking 'Now she's singing German Lieder music!'

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He is a Jazz pianist who has studied classical music and is a famous K-pop composer (whom Idols chase to write music) and is a sort of super rich. This is now sounding like the plot of those Chinese novels written by amateur writers. (Hacker and medical genius heroine who is also a kung fu master)

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This writer LOVES idols, her last drama was even more idol-centered

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I quite liked our second two episodes. They were both funny (oh that bizarre trampoline assist jump 😂) and heartfelt. The ML’s growth arc was clear from the get-go but I appreciate now the FL also has something to learn. I didn’t think our 2ML was suspicious in any way; I think his arc is gonna be sad, and so am I. (I can hear you laughing Seon-ha).

I thought we were going with “she fell first” awfully quickly so I liked the brakes on that at the ending. And it ties in nicely with FL’s arc re her abilities. And I don’t mind the mystery in this rom-com since they’ve integrated it from the get-go.

Show has nicely passed my four episode test.

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Hmm. Beanies are not fond of 2ML. While his behavior was unacceptable, I think he’s going to be guilty of noble idiocy or something nuanced that FL’s lie-dar couldn’t discern. There’s just something sad and suffering about him. But early days.

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I like the SML (and not only because he is Seo Ji Hoon, who is so handsome... 😅). I think the same as you, there was a misunderdstanding in the past, FL thought he didn't love her anymore... But we already know that she sometimes misreads the "lies" (and she knows it too).

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Oh thank god I’m not the only one finding him appealing. Is he another idol? He’s definitely the better actor.

Hopefully, they’ll give an awful turn to his character so I won’t get SLS. 😂 Thankfully I also like the ML’s character and his budding romance with FL. She’s adorable. No chance of SLS with the 2FL so far.

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Right now I'm having SML, I admit it (and that's not something that usually happens to me), and I don't want him to be mean or to have a dark side, I want him to be a nice person, as it seems.
But that doesn't mean I dislike the ML, not at all. He is cute :)

Seo Ji Hoon is not an idol, as far as I know. You can see him as the swoony ML in Seasons of Blossom (I loved that drama) and as SML in other shows.

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SML acts really well. I almost had SLS watching him watching and talking to FL. My better judgment told me not to, though, given what he had done to her in the past.

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That proposal scene was so cute and that scene outside Seol hee's apartment when he said "i missed you" to her gave me feels lol.

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I don't dislike him the way some Beanies do, but I'm pretty far away from SLS too. I'm sure there were extenuating circumstances in the past, and it's all going to be sad but way too late when Sol-hee finds out about the whole situation in the present. And it does seem like he could have made different decisions at the time if he didn't want to lose her completely. But we'll have to see!

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I agree, love him and what they had was so cute and pure but I'm not getting any SLS. Do-ha and Sol-hee to me are the present and in this current present they seem better suited for each other.

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I like 2ML too. Just catching up on this. Not to add a spoiler, but from reading about the character in Wikipedia, it looks like there is a good reason for what he did

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I have deleted it now. But it was already there when they announced him as the leads.

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@kimjojo21 - Thanks, I've deleted my cranky outburst, too.

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It seems to me the opposite--the 2ML often gets way too much love from commentators here. Speaking for myself, its not the second male lead but the love triangle trope that bothers me, especially when the second male lead is so often a policeman. But that's because of a trauma in my childhood.

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Not laughing…I am empathetic.

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You are gracious indeed. I think the problem here is that ML is no Vampie. Hoping he ups his game.

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HAHAHA this should could've been a 10/10 if that was the case 😂 Could you imagine the chaos of vampire ML who is determined to hide and an FL with the superpower of truth/lie discerning determined to figure out what his deal is. But also now that I say it, he is quite very vampire coded if you think about it - with the wearing black, living in the dark, avoiding everyone and everything all the time, closed off aura.....

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He is a very competent actor. He has been playing supporting role for a long time so, I am not surprised if he came off as a better actor compared to ML ( who is still quite green).

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I love the leads together. Not many shows have made me swoon, but this one has. The leads have something to learn from the other, and they are learning perfectly well. They are more like good friends right now, and I’m sure this is a good foundation for a solid relationship, whichever form it takes.

I agree with the recapper that there is something fishy about the policeman. He broke off the engagement, and moved away right after that without giving her any explanation. That is a deal breaker in my book, as well as hers or anyone’s, apparently. The thing ML said was also right, “Why is he trying to meet you even after you told him you didn’t want to meet him anymore?”. There is something unsettling about this person.

I never liked KSH before. Her work never impressed me. But this one, THIS ONE, I think she is so natural here. The ML might look a bit green for me, but for me he’s just perfect. Their chemistry is so good, something I think often lacks in many dramas these days. I look forward to their stories in the next episodes.

And yes, I love their conversation about forever love. If I’m not mistaken, the ML said he didn’t think one could love the other forever as there were a lot of uncontrollable factors. I think he has a good point there, though I don’t think I agree with him. What I want to say is that I agree with @elinor that this show is extending in interesting directions while is still able to keep the old school feels to it.

I’m liking this one so far. 😇😊☺️

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*The ML might look a bit green for some

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He is definitely green BUT when I compare his Kim Doha to his Seo Yul in Alchemy of Souls, I can say I'm super impressed. No offense to anyone, but I barely saw ANY change of expression in Yul. I think @mayhemf said he is showing 2.5 expressions here but after this set of episodes I think it's at least 4 expressions (don't ask me to describe them though :P)
Anyways, he has good chemistry with Kim Sohyun and I like his character so it's all working well together in my opinion.
However, I need Kim Sohyun and Seo Jihoon in another cute drama ASAP.

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Agree on the 4! He even managed to look shocked 😅 and that shocked me.

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Shocks all around 😂😂
I mean, he even snapped at Shaon! Which was super cathartic. I did not expect him to have arranged a separate car for her! That was a good spot of writing. Never seen a drama lead cut off the obsessive second lead so strongly before. Very glad for him and Solhee that he didn't stand for that girl's gaslighting (please let's get her therapy).

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Well, it is his first role without special or lots of training, so I believe he will be fine with time, shy people are usually great at acting and adopting different pet personalities

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I'm always ready to defend BOTH of Seo Yul's expressions 🤣, and I'm trying not to be cynical about the mask covering Minhyun’s limited acting skills, but I didn't have super high hopes for him here. He's doing OK so far, but KSH is, as predicted, acting rings around him - without overacting or showing him up. So far he's showing a bit more range than previously but his physical acting (that secret agent spoof!) is more impressive than his ability to convey emotions with his face. It will feel like the sun coming out if we get to see a broad, genuine smile at some point.

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I wanted to see Sohyun with Jihoon for a long time but not as a SL, as we all know the fate of SL in kdrama. I hope they get reunited soon as leads.

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Completely agree with KSH & some of her previous works hence it was why I was on the fence on starting this drama but after going through eps 1-4 it wasn't too bad. She has improved quite abit.
Looking forward to the rest of the eps!

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Well he sold the beach scene for me. Minhyun acts more with his eyes but i feel his potential shows more when the scene is actually emotional.

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I can’t say I really loved ep 3 and 4, I mean show me Minhyun and I will sit for an hour like rabbit before the snake or snake at the sound of the flute, but to me several things are not quite believable, Kim So Hyun being engaged and planning to get married, not really aligns with what I thought of her character, plus she looks no older than 20, I don’t remember how old she is actually, but so young, but ok, that getting drunk and getting in trouble and conveniently saved by hot neighbor, ok, it is every drama’s staple, I can live with it, also, I was gonna say I wish I had hot neighbor that had to be stuck in my apartment too, but then imagined that my apartment would be awful mess, I prefer not to 😂, Shaon the singer is so annoying, she is the one of the most famous solo singer in Korea, but she is so immature and spoilt, I wonder how she is still on the top, no matter how good are the songs Do Ha writes for her, she lacks any depth, plus with her being that famous I don’t think some thugs would approach her to date like it was shown, I liked the actress who played the mother, she was good, that’s an experienced actor to you, she had so much presence even in few minutes she was on screen, policeman boyfriend has not impressed me so far and I am definitely not having even a hint of SLS. Good thing is Minhyun of course, he might be green but he chose good drama that suits his character, and his acting is better that some other idol actors (L and Eunwoo, I am looking at you) and I don’t even want to remember the abomination that was Lee Sungeyol in Numbers, he just shouldn’t have picked up such a complicated character to play, so Minhyun is treading lightly, and I think it is very smart of him, and in the end, some more of me swooning over Minhyun, he looks so good in anything he wears, such a stature, such a posture, and he also can play piano and peal apples, such a treasure, his face is so interesting, like take it apart and nothing impressive, but damn his soulful eyes, damn his cheeks, ok, I will stop now, tbh I have never even been much of a fan of him.

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“ his face is so interesting, like take it apart and nothing impressive”

For real? Minhyun is younger than me by around half a decade but damn his pouty lips. 😚 Soo jealous and 😳 at the same time!

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Yes, I maybe worded it wrong, but I just can’t pintpoint his visual for me, like he is handsome, but also you can say he is plain? I don’t really know how to explain, I am pretty sure in Nuest when they debuted I didn’t take interest because they were so young and I don’t think any of them impressed me visually that much, is it that he grew into his features or is it me being hypnotized?

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I know he is the type of visual Koreans love but he is just plain to me. He seems like a nice guy though.

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I don’t remember much talk about his visuals and him in general before he hit big in Produce 101, and it was not for his face, but for his ability to put together the best team ever

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All good! This is subjective anyway. I’d watch Minhyun do the lamest things (he’s done a lot) and I’d still swoon. I love how naturally handsome and graceful yet dorky he is and looks amazing even bare faced 🥲

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He is just my type. Really. I can look at him all day everyday. Being reserved, reclusive, and all.

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Same though, he is a fine man, it is not only his face, amazing skin btw, he also has height, nice body, really a perfect human being

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@lecintel sorry if it sounded otherwise but I wasn't commenting on his produce 101 days (which I don't know anything about). I'm just talking about how I perceive him in his acting roles. It is only my opinion and I don't mean anything bad by it. I still like him as Kim Doha as I think he suits the role.

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Hmm I think the script choice was good for him as it kinda goes with his personality, introverted & a bit reserved. And yeah, his acting is better than certain idol actors as u mentioned.

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That would make sense. He’s playing himself, Yul, Do-ha. The real test will come if he’s asked to stretch his range. But so far, he’s perfectly fine for a lightweight rom-com.

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I have not seen him in Alchemy of Souls, so yes, the real test will come when he would need to show range of emotions, I trust him to do well though, really want him to succeed as an actor

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I'm rooting for him ,too. His idol life was pretty messed up, so I hope he does well as an actor. He has to go a long way though.

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Yeah I found out that he is such organized in the recent Suchwita episode 😁

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Even during his Wanna One era they showed how he loves when everything is clean and organized, was it not him when everyone came to the dorm on something and we’re all running around and he was like “Everyone, take off your shoes!!!”, he put me to shame when I saw him in I live alone, everything so neat and clean, even his walk-in wardrobe, trust me to have everything in mess, lol

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And what you said about his idol life, it also is one thing why I have soft spot for him, Nuest we’re so young when they debuted, I remember how Yebosseo was pretty catchy and thought they would do fine, though it wasn’t my kind of music, sadly till Produce they didn’t hit big, but he was so good in Wanna One

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And poor Eunwoo!😅 I get that he didn’t do any better in his tsundere roles but he has grown so much I hope you give him a try again! Liked him enough in Rookie Historian and he delivered so much in Island.

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Don’t worry, I wine about L all the time, but I like him and hoping he will improve some day, I don’t hate Eunwoo tbh, his face is so pleasing, glad to know he is getting better, I will wait till his new project

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I liked that they addressed the flaw in her lie detecting system. Once we recognize a lie, we assume the plausible opposite to be the truth. But a lie has many contexts & is rather complex than it appears to be.

Also, what got into Doha that night? He kept forgetting his mask lol. ( Ik it was for the sake of the plot, but he seems so accustomed with his mask that I wonder how come he didn't feel something was missing until she pointed it out.)

This show seems to have potential ( both in lead's chemistry & plot ). Excited to see where it leads to.

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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, life can’t be black and white, and now we see her gift is also her curse, as when you are lied to you feel betrayed, and you don’t know the motives in her case, I love how Do Ha for her is so difficult to decipher) And that cute scene when Do Ha didn’t want her to think he is unemployed, cute)

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Ah yes, subconsciously he wants to look cool in front of her 🤭

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And I find that is very cute from a reserved, quiet guy.

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While a part of me does think the show is treading the line on possibly having one too many subplots, I am enjoying this quite a bit. Sol-hee and Do-ha (or should we say Seung-joo?) have such perfect chemistry and their every interaction is just lightning in a bottle. The scene at the restaurant... I was swooning by the end. Ugh, they're so cute!

On the other hand, I am not a fan of the second leads in the slightest. Sha-on, for obvious reasons. She's a grown ass woman and one of the country's top celebrities, but is obsessively infatuated with her colleague to the point of sabotaging her stage performances, going out in the middle of the night to stalk him, and then faking a suicide attempt. That's beyond entitled, bratty behaviour - it's criminal. Methinks she needs serious mental health counselling. As for Kang-min, idk. I can't say I find him outright suspicious yet, but I'm also not at all endeared towards him. While it's true that Sol-hee was apparently paranoid and unable to trust him, it's also true that he evaded all her questions and seemed to have done nothing to dissuade her of her assumptions and try to save their engagement. That, to me, is the real red flag in that relationship. Him showing up after years of silence and trying to manufacture a 'coincidental' meeting is just gross to me. I would feel angry and gaslighted if I ever found out a partner or ex-partner of mine did something like that. It feels creepy and violating to me and I don't want him around Sol-hee. And even without all that baggage, I just won't succumb to second lead syndrome here. Our leads are too damn good together. Sucks for Seo Ji-hoon, I guess, but that's the way I like it.

A rarity for me, but I actually rather like how they've incorporated murder mystery elements relatively smoothly. Yes, I know we all hate the unnecessary darkness forced into our romcoms, but this one (so far!! pls don't betray me, show) has made it into an integral part of the male lead's characterization and past in a manner that doesn't feel unnatural. Now, all the writer has to do is keep that up and my god, I hope against all odds that they do. I already love our OTP too much for it to not hurt me if the tower comes crashing down by the end.

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True. The murder mystery doesn't seem forced & I'm liking it this way. Hope they keep it up.

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It was so weird that Sol-hee looked touched to hear he moved to the neighbourhood for her. That's not sweet! That's properly creepy!

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I like the mystery too! It doesn't feel like it was dropped into this drama from another one and it's nicely incorporated with the ML's characterization, and both leads' previous connection, so I'm here for it. Hopefully it continues to be relevant but not the entire story!

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I agree with you. The murder mystery plot is incorporated well in the sense that it really challenges the limits and context under which our heroine hears the lies. I also really liked our leads and how they both have a hard time with things and have learnt to accept that but seem to be providing each other comfort and respite.

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I agree they've made good use of the mystery elements by writing it directly into the background of the male lead and how the female lead can effectively use her powers to both help and heal him from the trauma of that past.

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Let's just hope the SML is not an undercover agent that cannot reveal the nature of his mission because she is not his family member. Similar to you, I am actually interested in the murder mystery element; however, whether this plot can hold my interest for 16 episodes is yet to be seen. The first 4 episodes have been very solid in introducing the setup and characters but the real challenge for any drama starts from here on.

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So happy that the show is getting so much love here! I don’t know how else I can say that I am so in love with it right now! Haven’t felt like this since Alchemy of Souls S1!

I really love how all the aspects of this drama are no nicely interwoven and natural so even the cliches and tropey ones don’t feel forced. I love how FL seemed OP in the beginning but learned in these episodes that she still has so much to learn and I wonder what she’ll think of Doha now since she initially thought that her powers weren’t working.

Minhyun too of course! He’s just too gorgeous and we all know he still has a long way to go in terms of acting but I love how he suits the role. He’s been picking great dramas from AoS to this. He’s also confirmed in Study Group and I know he’ll kill the action scenes there. So excited for all the opportunities he’s getting!

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I read that he will be in Study Group, as I understand based on webtoon or anime, but didn’t know there would be action scenes, do you know if Minhyun did taekwondo or something? Him being from Busan, I would think so

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Well, Study Group is an action manhwa so there should be loads! :) I’m not sure but I think I’ve seen some taekwondo photos from his childhood before? In AoS though, he said he was comfortable to do the action scenes because he danced a lot as an idol.

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Minhyun once said that he auditioned for a different role in AoS, but they decided they wanted him for Yul - partly because of his introverted personality but also - and significantly - because of his dance/athletic background. There is a video out there from when he and In-soo first began to train for the stunts in AoS.

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as a long time minhyun fan, its so nice to see his acting career grow. still sad nuest is over, but at least he seems to be getting what he wanted from a solo artist.

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Side note: I just realized you are new here (or at least new to commenting)! Welcome!

I also loved AoS and him in it. And if the fun secret agent sequence in the first week was any indication, he'll do great in an action role! I agree that he's not blowing me away with his acting or anything, but I think what he's doing is working with this character, and I certainly don't find his acting distracting at all.

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Yes, welcome! And I know I'm watching Minhyun more closely and critically than I would another actor because there's been SO much humorous commentary, especially during/right after AoS, about his limited expressions. I've been judging every scene - does he have an expression? What is it? Is it distinguishable from others? Was that the hint of a smile? It's not really fair (or enjoyable) to watch the whole show through that lens; he's well cast in this and doing fine.

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What about his ability to portray different physical types? Based on his portrayal of a sensitive, somewhat frail, physically traumatized mage in Alchemy, I've been impressed by his range, in portraying a sensitive, somewhat frail, psychologically traumatized musician. That's some acting, right there! (Nonetheless I am enjoying this show, and he's fine for the role.)

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I think Minhyun fans here need a support group -me included. What is wrong with having limited expressions?!? He looks so good and charming with the 4 expressions (referring to above comments) he has!

Omoni!!! 🤣🤣🤣

On a more serious note, I didn’t think it was out of his character at all to have only a couple of expressions. He is traumatized, likes to work alone, avoids people. I love that the bunny-hopping FL will make him become more relaxed and bold in expressing his emotions. And we WILL get to see his bright smiles, hopefully soon.

I love that the relationship between them seems to make his and her life better.

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Omo! I was late to the AoS party, but had I been there I’d have defended him and his character! 😭 I LOVED Yul in AoS. Probably the character I liked the most. So cute and charming. 🥰

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Can’t reply to your comment above so I’m here! I completely agree - how else should a very calm and collected genius noble act? Or a traumatized recluse that eats unseasoned microwaved whatever it is? We’re not asking anyone to give him acting awards. Some people just want to be hateful and rude. I do hope to see Minhyun really grow as an actor though! He is very passionate in what he does and I know he’ll always try to do better.🫶🏻

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Poor Min Hyun. Dusing AoS filming, Jaewook and Insoo would ad-lib constantly but when he attempted, the director said STOP. We don't want you to smile. We want you to be stoic/wooden. (I'm paraphrasing here) I just know that he was frustrated that he was told to follow the script/direction while the other guys were having fun.

My boy is In-soo-- (loving Uncanny Counter 2). Having a hard time investing in this drama but it does have certain charms. (No. 1 being Seo Ji-hoon 😊)

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it his eyes that talks tho! and im actually convinced about his trauma. there's no inconsistently at all in that part. 😆

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Thanks! Been lurking in DB since forever but yeah, just made an account because I wanted to spread more appreciation for Minhyun! And the drama and KSH too 🤗🍑

I’m so distracted though. I rewatch some scenes a lot because his visuals are just 😮‍💨 I hope he gets an OST too but I can be not too greedy if he covers an OST during his concert tour 🤭 He did that in AoS 1 so not impossible but his generosity is endless as he sang his character’s theme in part 2. I love him too much and how he spoils his fans 🥹

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🥳 welcome to the comments section I hope you have fun here.

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I found these two episodes better now that the show has settled into the story and I do like the premise overall.
The female lead is great but I don't think the male lead has the acting ability to be the lead in a show quite yet (I'm probably in the minority from reading the reviews so far).
It feels very uneven in ability with the other actors and doesn't flow well at times.
I know the character is supposed to be a recluse, quiet, withdrawn and is dealing with trauma (half of kdrama characters are written with these traits) but it feels very wooden and lacks any emotional depth. It doesn't help when he takes the mask off as he doesn't have much variation in expression.
Good on him for getting the lead role in such a competitive industry. This may be another case like The Forbidden Marriage where the second lead outshines and acts rings around the lead. 

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You're not alone. Minhyun is very pretty but lacks charisma on screen. There is no depth in his acting.

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I'm watching this drama with an internet friend and we both think the same. Exactly what you said.

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Song Hye Geo made whole career of acting the same everywhere, I would not cast Minhyun away yet, yes, he is green, but I do beleive he has potential

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And she was heavily criticized for it.

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Yes, for two decades, didn't stop her from becoming the powerhouse actress) I am just hoping if Minhyun decides seriously on acting career he will work on his skills, if not, hope he will follow Ho Gyo's steps of being famous, haha

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Minhyun's acting had criticism from Knetz when the drama initially aired. So you're definitely not in the minority. Sadly, some people are just more easy on male actors as long as they have the visuals. The way he delivers his line is pretty good but he needs to work on his expressions and emoting with his eyes. Thankfully his acting style happens to work with the character so it doesn't bother me that much. I feel like the ML and SML should have switched actors though...that would have elevated this drama so much more.

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Well, when it comes to visuals I think plenty of female actresses also get cast because they are loved by knetz or public or considered beautiful, Suzy, IU ( tell me whatever you want she was awful in Scarlet Heart), Song Hye Gyo, Jun Ji Hyun many say is just an Ok actress, Hwang Jung Eum, kept being cast as lead with her awful acting, Gu Hye Sun the most obvious example, never was good in acting, but was so loved before her divorce scandal, Kim Tae Hee, Go Ara,and many more, so I would say many female actresses have it easy as well as they are pretty, male actors get their share of criticism, so I would say let's be fair, knetz are pretty equal when it comes to criticzing acting chops or giving pass to beatiful humans either male or female, in general more viewers are female, maybe that's why you say that males get less criticism, which is also the case.

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I agree with switching the males but even then I don't think Minhyun would be able to convey the subtlety needed for the more emotional scenes. The female leads backstory with the second male lead is so far full of heartbreak, unanswered questions and possibly regret/longing ( SML moved and changed jobs to find her again) The SML is doing a great job with this so far, I don't love him or hate him but I'm curious to find out more.

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These things can be so subjective though - I *loved* the lead in The Forbidden Marriage (admittedly maybe it helped that he was super hot 🔥 I am not immune to such things) and didn’t notice the second lead being a better actor at all.

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True, and thank you for your nice comment) Truly, everything is subjective, I for example don’t get Korean beauty standards sometimes, such as to me Kim So Hyun looks pretty plain, but everyone is praising her visuals, I can’t judge regarding acting chops, people say she is good

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I adore Kim Young-dae, though I don’t think I’ll watch the Forbidden Marriage just for him. I still have sageuk allergy.

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I generally don’t do sageuks (not even fusion/fantasy ones) and it’s the first time I’ve finished one in ages, so I would say don’t let that put you off.

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I don't mind Kim Young-dae, I do think he was miscast in The Forbidden Marriage though.
I personally don't think he has the gravitas to play a king, let alone someone who has been morning the death of his wife for 7 years and is so overcome with grief.
He was fine in the lighter more comedic moments but in the more emotional scenes his acting ability, for me was lacking.
Kim Woo-seok, the 2ML in comparison was amazing with less dialogue and screen time he was able to convey so much more, even just with his eyes.
In the end I wanted him to have the happy ever after with the female lead as I didnt buy the relationship with the two leads.
But, yes as you say beffels - it can be so subjective 😊

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Phew. So relieved that I liked these two episodes. 60% of the drama is fun and those are the KSH parts!

The second lead looks good!

The interaction between the leads also got better. I like that he is the one who is affected by her. The little changes in him are nice to see.

He really needs to leave that Saoh (whatever that artists name is) because she is awful. No girl, blackmailing with suicide is just wrong.

I liked the jazz bar scenes. And the bar owner. And the tarot room scenes.

The ML still looks a bit stiff. But not as bad as the earlier episodes. Glad I can continue!
The premise of lie detection being flawed to form conclusions is interesting.

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Kim so-hyun is so chaotic in this I love her. Her scenes with her mother are still the most fun for me but also kinda sad because how badly she yearns for her affection. The jazz bar owner is a nice sub plot and hopefully he has nothing to do with the ex-girlfriend and her disappearance.

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I don’t think I have seen her so lively in a drama before. She really is working this role and owning every scene she is in. Ngl, with another ML she would have made some scenes even better. I am all for giving people time to improve but I think the ML needed some more practice before being cast as a ML. I already feel 2ML has so much more presence.
My doubt is on the entertainment ceo and the other chap (very sus) regarding the disappearance of the ex.

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She was lively in Bring It On Ghost and Tale of Nokdu. Especially ghost Hyun-ji was just adorable but Sol-hee is crazy and chaotic. Her drunk scenes are insane and the whole car scene was so much fun. Minhyun is definitely not in the same league but its still a marked improvement from what I remember of him in Alchemy. His eyes are quite expressive or rather they are quite sorrowful and match his current character so I'm quite okay with it for now. Its their chemistry and visuals that has me hooked in every scene. Him and Kim so-hyun are so visually stunning together it makes me swoon.

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So she doesn't necessarily perceive lies, just the intent behind the lie. If a person believes themselves to be lying than they are. So she went to the older woman's place and asked her younger lover if he loved her, it was true because he was looking at someone else and saying it about her. When Seung Joo says he killed his ex, it is because he believes it. It looks like her arc is going to be learning to distinguish that context matters in lies and that two things can be true at once. Do Ha and Seung Joo being the same person. The fact that it didn't occur to her that it was a stage name is wild. I am really enjoying this drama, our leads have good chemistry. As for the 2nd leads, the 2FL is trash( I thought we left this in the past, but this and heartbeat are bringing it back), and the 2ML, with his beautiful sad eyes is I'm sure going to have some noble idiocy happening( because men get to be more nuanced than women, sigh).

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This is really helpful - thanks! I was trying to get my head round the final "lie" of Do-ha and why suddenly it would sound a bell, and this sorted it out for me. Which opens up a great arc for our FL - learning to differentiate the true lie from the believed lie, and learning to understand what that means for trusting people.

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I want to strongly believe there will be a redemption arc for Sha-on. Her character might be a bit more layered than we've seen so far.

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I hope so, 2D 2FLs are the worse. It is such lazy writing and I want us to be pass that.

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I feel like they are doing a decent job of foiling tropes in this drama so I'm keeping faith that the character isn't as shallow and clingy as we've seen.

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I think there is more to the SFL character. I’m quite sure she will have her own important arc. Just only 4 eps in, we see her so broken already (e.g., limited eating because of the order, mentally attached to and depending solely on ML and attention seeker.

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You are very kind person, hopefully so, I think there’s already hint of her romance with the fan there, I am not sure, is he also a driver of FL?

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Well, one more guy who comes back in 30 years like in Not Others, I loved you but life got in the way, was he terminally ill, did he lose all his fortune, what exactly happened that a preson who was like, yes, I am rrrreeeady, you are the One, let's get married started being like, I am busy, can't see, yes, we marry, cuz we have to, I know there will be an excuse, but boy, you had your chance, now give way to Do Ha.

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He was sick or he had a sick parent is my belief. Or a family member in trouble.

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I am glad to know I am so versed in dramas that I actually got one of my predictions right, I was just brainstorming without much thought, but then saw spoiler, haha, well, not much of other reasons tbh, it was pretty obvious, reasons for noble idiocy are usually pretty much same *pats herself *

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Oh this is a guess on my part, not a spoiler. This is a fairly lightweight drama that is why I said sickness or family member in trouble. Only kdramas do people not tell their partners these things in an effort not to burden them, lol. Unless you are mentioning the deleted spoiler down below, then please disregard this comment, lol.

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I have noticed that the PD has been very selective when we do and do not hear her "tells." In that scene, there was only silence, right?

It's like a lie of omisson on the sound editor's part :)

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I approve of this interpretation.

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I like this idea, but I don't think he's completely there yet. He still seems more in the not-completely-aware-shy-crush phase of liking her to me, so I'm not sure he would have internalized that desire to the extent he would need to in order to "fool" the lie gong.

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I actually think, that because he is unaware, it is a subconscious want. So because it is subconscious, he is very sincere in it, even if he doesn't realize why.

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That seems like the right phase for him, and although I did go back and rewatch, I can't distinguish between Korean "oh" meaning "yeah" and Korean "oh" meaning just "oh" - and as you rightly pointed out, subs are always suspect.

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I am TRYING to confirm this for you but SOMETHING keeps getting caught in the filter and it won't let me comment and I don't know WHY.
He says "AH" she says "EO (어)". Ergo he neither confirms nor has time to deny that he is dating her.

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OH FINALLY. Fifth time lucky.

I went and rewatched the scene 6+ times to check between the Ah and the Eo 😭😭😂. If he's saying 어 then his pronunciation is shocking 😂.

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Eo (어) is an informal affirmation. Ah is just a filler.

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@sicarius, thanks for the confirmation, noncommittal ahh it is.

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@sicarius Ah! So much trouble over one little syllable. I appreciate the effort and am not the least bit sorry to have occasioned it. 😈

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😅😅 you're welcome

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No, he didn't say he was her boyfriend, he didn't actually confirm that. He moved to say something else to Seo Ji Hoon (character names, what are those), but Sol Hee (oh, there we go) said Yes before he could confirm or deny properly, and then he didn't say anything after that, so the lie bell didn't ring.
He says "Ah-", but it sounds a bit like "어" ( "eo", informal affirmative), which is what she says right afterwards.
(I went and rewatched the scene 5 times to check 😭😭😂)

The show has been very careful with him to endeavour to show him never lying to her, until seemingly the last scene of episode 4, on purpose.

(Although they missed one casual point here. When she tells him to sit down for just five minutes and he says, okay just five minutes, but then stays for longer... We have to presume, pretty logically too, he very much meant the "only five minutes" but then changed his mind lol. It's not big, but when so many of the lies she hears are small everyday covers, and it's been so intentional about what he says to her, I thought they'd match it by making it extra clear there as well 😂😂😂)

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Aiya!!! It has posted now???
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Welp. *Gives self an award for messing up this thread* lol

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Ok, I went back and watched that scene again because I was so curious, and I'm not confident he verbally confirms that he's her boyfriend. Kang-min asks if he is, and then Do-ha uses that word that could be an affirmative answer, but could also be someone saying "Oh" in mild surprise, before Sol-hee quickly confirms it. The subtitles say that he's saying "yes" but we all know that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Can anyone with more language knowledge than I have weigh in? And then Do-ha says a couple of other things that aren't lies, like that he was worried about her. So I don't know. Was it convenience on the part of the staff not to reveal that the lie detector works just as well on him? Or was his reply in that moment noncommittal enough to slide past?

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I thought the lie detector didn’t work on him before she heard the gong sound when he mumbled that he didn’t kill her (his ex). I think thinking too much about this and my brain will explode.

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She thought it didn't work on him because when she asked him for his name, he gave her one and she didn't hear the sound. She was expecting him either to say "Kim DO-ha" or hear the gong sound because anything else would be a lie. But she didn't realize that "Kim Do-ha" is a stage name, and the name he gave her is his birth name. So she was operating under the assumption that her lie gong didn't work for him (and was trying to get him to lie about things in front of her to test/confirm it). And that made it extra shocking when she discovers that it actually does work for him at the end when he says he didn't kill his ex.

It's a lot hahaha! But I thought it was so cool that they could fake us out like that with his name, until we see his birth name somewhere else later.

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No you're right, he says "Ah" but gets cut off by her saying "Eo (어)". Ergo he neither confirms nor has time to deny that he is dating her.

The show has been very careful with him to endeavour to show him never lying to her, until seemingly the last scene of episode 4, on purpose. This scene included.
It doesn't ring here merely because there is no lie being spoken on his side at all.

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Eo (어) is an informal affirmation, Ah is just a filler.
I've had so much trouble posting these, I am now all over the place and you're all getting multiple replies. Lol.

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Yeah, I think this would be easier for me to distinguish if it weren't for the mask he's wearing (and the subs which led us astray). But glad to have a second opinion!

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The Mask helps nothing lel.

My subs had
SJ/DH: "Well-"
SH: "Yes."

And I subsequently doubted that I misunderstood that scene the first time round reading this thread myself; "No, he didn't? Surely he didn't say yes... Let me check... Oh no, he didn't". 😂🤣

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I know some Beanies think the real murderer is Deuk-chan, but I really hope not because he’s one of my favorites! I really love the easy relationship he has with Do-ha/Seung-joo, and he’s really thoughtful about the things he needs and how to protect him. Plus, all MLs need a bit of teasing when it comes to their soon to bloom feelings for the FL. Also falling into this category for me is the jazz club owner, who I hope sticks around the whole show because he’s great.

That is in stark contrast to how I feel about Sha-on. Last week I thought she was just being annoying when she wouldn’t leave his apartment and started the whole dating rumor. But this week showed it’s actually a really unhealthy obsession. Does she not care at all about his desire for privacy? She must know that if reporters followed her to his apartment building the first time, they could follow her again, and yet she still drives around the neighborhood he’s living in trying to find him and attracting attention. I would feel uncomfortable having a close working relationship with a stalker too. I get why she feels like her whole career is dependent on him, but I hope she can learn to have a healthier relationship with him, and with her own body.

That proposal scene was so well done and super relatable honestly. It didn’t happen to me, but I know so many people who were upset with their boyfriends immediately before they were proposed to because the boyfriend was behaving strangely, or vaguely, or seemed to be dishonest about something small. And it was such a smart way to illustrate how Sol-hee’s power can be working totally correctly, but still be interpreted completely wrong. I’m also loving the exploration of what a lie really is, with Do-ha’s first ping of the show. It’s heartbreaking that he feels responsible for his ex’s death (that’s what I’m assuming it is - this is not the show that’s going to make its ML an actual murderer right?), and I bet the interrogation and constant accusations have done nothing to help that.

This has quickly become my favorite live-watch of the moment and I’m so impatient for Monday to come again!

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Also, while "Spoiler" is undeniably catchy, it's "Run" that has been living rent-free in my brain since I started watching this drama last week. Well played soundtrack people, well played.

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I am obssessed with Run omg, I just added the track to my 'Running' (like literally music for when I go on a run) Spotify playlist 😂

I also can relate to what you're saying about the proposal scene! I was literally jumping to the exact same conclusions, right off the bat, that Sol-hee was (which is what they were trying to do with that set-up of course) and then was sitting there like :O when the truth was revealed. It also makes me wonder how many times I've just assumed someone is being untruthful or lying without really asking properly, or just based on my own assumptions and interpretations of other cues!

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It is my favorite live watch, too!

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It's my only live watch and am very happy with it. Except the waiting for new episodes is so difficult.

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How big that murder was in media and for what reason? I mean for him to be recognized by people in public for murder it should have been everywhere, I don't remember, did the murder happen in Seoul? Or is it becasue his mother was politician that drew so much attaention? I probably need to re-watch the first two episodes cuz I missed a lot it seems

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I don't think we've been given tons of detail yet, but from the flashbacks it seems like it happened at a beach. And they are assuming it was a murder because she disappeared, but no body was ever found. They did find her bloody shoes, and her brother clearly thinks he knows what happened, but I think we need to wait for more info. As for why it was a big deal, maybe just a beautiful young woman disappearing was enough to make a media storm. Or if he was already starting to make a name for himself as a composer, a semi-famous person being suspected of murder is certainly enough for the media to grab hold of.

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But then again, when Sol-Hee googled his real name she hadn’t found anything, interesting

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My guess is that the CEO hyung helped clear his real names from the internet somehow. His real name must have been on the internet when they investigated the case. I guess that is why he uses the new name now, and the search for his real name didn’t have any hits.

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Ok. This is a very niche comment that I expect most of you won't get. But when watching this show I often get the song "Hazard" by Richard Marx in my head. https://youtu.be/gdmHHoI9beM haha
"🎶I swear I left her by the river..."🎵

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One of the things I liked most about this week’s episodes was the way that the background music made itself part of the narrative—so many of the little catchy musical phrases are from very well-known pieces…the type you learn when you first learn an instrument, “Für Elise” or the “Chop Waltz” (a.k.a. Chopsticks) that sort of thing. It’s a nice counterpoint to the more intense musicality—jazz-based or otherwise :)—of our ML. I find it delightful.

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Yes to this!! I also enjoyed this, and I really love the way you put it as the music becoming a part of the narrative and also you observation about it being a nice counterpoint to the ML's musical wheelhouse!

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It's still a little weird seeing Kim So-hyun drive xD weird good of course. Like she's grown so much!

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same lol my brain KNOWS these kids grew up, but it still takes more years for me to not have a moment of weird when they take adult roles. more than real-life years lol it was the same thing with yoo seungho and I'm sure it will be the same with name dareum, for example.

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Yes, and we'll be seeing NDR driving soon since he just finished his military enlistment.

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She's 24 and I know mentally that she's an adult plus she's had a driving license for a while now but I was still shocked when I saw her driving. Its surreal how its the little scenes like driving that makes you realize how much time has passed on how long we've been seeing her on screen.

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Ikr. Time flies~ dang, we're getting older as well xD

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The ending of episode 3 was so hilarious and Kim so-hyun is an absolute riot in this. The bunny hop scene was the highlight of this week. Mok sol-hee is so beautifully layered with pathos and chaos its great to watch Kim so-hyun bring out the nuances of the character and I'm absolutely loving the sweet chemistry between the leads which builds from simple things like eating together or watching soccer. While I'm still lenient towards Sha-on her actions in episode 4 were the worst but I'm hoping it comes with character growth and finding her own romance (with the cute bodyguard). The backstory about child Mok sol-hee makes you realize why she's jaded by lies and even though she realizes that half truths exists its hard for her comprehend the difference between them so she relies on the words she hears to understand the world. I also do believe she suffers from arrested development as she still feels like that 9 year old vying for her mother's attention and love. The breakup scene was sad too because she wants so badly to believe in him but isn't able to as the bell keeps ringing. Still she hoped he would reach out to her even after she broke up with him and was probably waiting for him to make any excuse to stay with her. I wonder how that will play into her relationship with Do-ha who as rightfully pointed out speaks in vague terms so he never fully lies but honestly has many layers too. Truth and lies are two sides of the same coin. The lie at the end of episode 4 now opens up a whole new world of possibilities for our two main leads because at least now Sol-hee knows for sure that abilities work on him but she doubts till what extent her abilities reveal the 'truth' about someone.

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Very. Memorable.
The Bunny Hops.

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Well, I am probably the minority who doesn't find it that great, but I have to live with it, Korean females should be cute and all.

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I really loved the recap @mistyiles. It didn't strike me while watching the episode but there is seems to be a theme here of the context of words spoken and whether they are true or false. I liked that the ending of episode 4 will force our FL to re-evaluate what her powers mean and learning how to trust others even when it may be contrary to the ringing in her ears.
I loved the scene where they had their meals together. Do Ha seems okay with his solitary existence but the scene where he had meals with her showed how much he might have missed having a meal outside with someone. I have felt that way before and it was relatable.

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The scenes of them eating together are truly healing. Simple scenes like that are why I love them so much as couple.

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The difference in light between their apartment one warm where the other is cold tell all we need to know about their mental state. I love that SH is gently trying to help him getting out of his comfort zone.
The gentle and comforting report between them is so cozy to watch and him growing a crush on her even being protective is cute.

Like other mention her lie detector can not get the complicated human minds and the reason for people to lie. our girl gonna learn a lesson on that as what we saw in ep 3 with the couple as she start to question her ability. As now both leads have what the other need to grow together.

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So Hyun is so animated in this. I love her and that jump was so unexpected lol. Her chemistry with both the boys is good too. I am not yet impressed with ML, he is not yet experienced and it shows. Can't wait for more episodes.

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I watched the first 4 episodes at once and while I'm digging our leads interactions and chemistry a lot, I couldn't care less about anyone else in the drama even if I tried.

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A drama that’s wacky AND with feeling is my catnip. Sol-hee’s mom is going to keep bugging me, but the rest of the show is developing lots of interesting wrinkles. Sol-hee using Master’s Sun as a discussion prompt was great (and wow, does that show look dated). It was also clever to use a riff on “Für Elise” as the background music when Deuk-chan is lying that Do-ha is an unemployed student of classical music.

Donuts cause Sol-hee to switch from lying to truth-telling. 😂

I’m not wild about the show presenting women who talk about or attempt suicide only as doing it to manipulate men, though. And the village idiots shopkeepers are useless so far - why does every show need to wedge in these time-wasting ‘colorful’ characters?

The show needs more football rivalry, especially since it gives Do-ha a chance to let loose as much as Sol-hee does. I'm neutral on Liverpool vs Man United - let the lead who looks best in red win.

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I like the theme that mistyisles brought up of overly codependent love (Master's Sun was also a clever example to pull in here. IIRC, I think she lost the ability to see ghosts by the end so it doesn't follow all the way, but it works for the setup of love crossing into dependency) and I respect the foil set up between Sha-on and what happened in the past, but I do hope they get a little bit deeper on mental illness than suicide as a women's manipulation tactic. If anything, I think it'd work really well with a healing arc for Do-ha— whatever his girlfriend did was about her and her mental health, not solely on him

Also yes more football rivalry! Also winner-neutral (writers, there are more teams that don't wear red) but I'd love to see Do-ha go full team spirit

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Band I want more scenes of them eating together again, be it at their place, or at other places. I like watching them eat together. Feel for the ML, I suppose. He has been keeping to himself this whole time.

I’m pretty sure the ex girlfriend is alive, though I suspect the show would dig deep into mental health issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if it did, though, because so far the show has been doing something quite special that looks like a normal romcom (e.g., FL’s ability and lie of omission, SFL’s physical and mental health issues being a celebrity).

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I didn't think about that angle with Master's Sun, but you're right!! :O

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She did not loose her ability to see ghosts, she just made peace with it (and money from house exorcism).

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yup, you're right! for some reason i remembered the fakeout at the start of the final episode but not the rest? i'll plead old age since it's been (oh god) ten years lol

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I think in this case I’ll have to be on the FL’s side: My father has been a fan of Manchester United since forever.

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Great recap. Very on point. An interesting couple of episodes. The leading couple looks good together. The (bad) relationship with the mothers and the inherent solitude of the leads present a nice facet to be explored. Looking forward to seeing how they will develop the question of the truth being relative to our perceptions. It´s a slippery road to take. Finally, great to see the shout-out to Master´s Sun.

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Finally caught up with this drama after seeing clips of it almost everywhere (I cant believe each ep was an hour long???? I started ep1 in the morning and finished ep4 in the afternoon my god)

Apart from that, this drama is quite enjoyable! I loved the set up and storyline so far. The ending of ep4 shocked me as I wasn't expecting it to be a lie at all omg??
Also I'm really glad they chose to use those sounds to show us if it was a lie of not. I got too invested in the show and completely forgot she had that ability till the sound came on so thank heavens for that.

Minhyun in a romcom after seeing him in AOS is such a delight but his character, despite being quite complicated and full of severe trauma, still reminds me of Seo Yul:')

Aside from that, that singer chick working with Seo Yul was so sick to pull that stunt at the beach. Serious pick me girl right there.

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Two rational leads in a drama, I am sold. This reminds me so much of The Nonesuch by Georgette Heyer. The main characters are so sensible that all the dramas start from the people around them. Sensible here means they explain and apologise when they crossed a line. Also, they act like normal human beings in those situations. I really love the whole sequence of Sol-hee driving Doha to the beach, her stilted conversation with Yuuunayaaa (because she does not want to agitate her further), and the slight shouting from Doha. Further, the fact that Doha wants to draw the line between him and Yuuunayaaa because he knows that she likes him and he cannot reciprocate her feelings is a bonus in my book.

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Exactly. How refreshing if it to see two rational people slowly getting to know one another and developing their feelings for the other. I liked that she apologized to him for doing what she wasn’t supposed to, too! And he was so cute. Sometimes rational people are shy and don’t know much about feelings and how to act when they are flustered. The way he tried to hide away from her behind a taxi was super super cute. I just liked them already.

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Yes this!! Very refreshing indeed :D

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I really like the FL, it’s nice to see a story about a precocious grew-up-too-soon woman who maybe isn’t as worldly or tough as she thought. And getting the chance to breathe and open up a little. It’s much more nuanced than I expected from this actress, and she is doing a good job.

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Skeptical with this at first, but after these episodes, I am sold. I like the fact that the FL's ability is being put to the test, and there is an underlying debate about what is truth and what is a lie. There is also a good backstory (and a real trauma) behind the ML's present behaviour - and there is also an underlying theme about codependency. In summary, there is substance to this story on top of the obvious chemistry of the leads.

Most of all, there is a sprinkling of jazz. Very rare in kdramas, I think.

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I agree with your comments on appreciating the themes and nuances this show is bringing up for discussion! I like that both of the leads also have a 'past' as well, gives their characters much more dimension and also drives that point home about neither of them existing soley for the other - as characters in a script even.

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Everything in K-dramaland is relative. This drama is like an unpretencious breath of fresh air compared to... 'See You In My 19th Life', for example.

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I don't think Sha On was suicidal when she called Do Ha. He assumed she was after he was reminded of his ex-girlfriend and he panicked. Sol Hee caught her lie about wanting to die. I think she was upset during the phone call, but also regretful about how she acted. She realized she had gone too far in chasing after him.

She got riled up when she saw Sol Hee though so she was immature and told Do Ha the last line to hurt him.

It would be better if the show didn't use two similar setups of suicidal characters.

I thought the scene of Sha On giving the cute bodyguard the egg was really nice. It was mildly surprising that the show didn't have her recognize him at the fanmeet. Maybe they are prolonging this part for later.

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I really love this episode when Sol-hee realize that the lie alarm that she keeps listen could be wrong, she experience it through her client and later she might found out the same thing with his boyfriend and with Do-ha.

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Thanks for the recap! I like your insight about how dramas like to valorize an unhealthy couple dynamic of people that can only rely on one another. In this one, even the socially-isolated male lead has at least three friends he really likes. It's true they're all friends from music, but honestly, that is real.
I see you all complaining about Minhyun and Lee Si-Woo. Why? Minhyun is bringing Do-Ha to life just fine. The actor always looks a little spacey, but I think the director has helped him here. He seems to be playing a character who is distracted, sad and traumatized rather than one who looks like he was just concussed. (If you watched him in Alchemy of Souls you know what I mean and how the script writers tried to address the actor's spacey looks in the characterization.) I really believed his panic attack in episode 4. I really like how Sol-hee and Do-ha seem like allies right away.

Sha-on is so pretty and is getting a lot of screen time. That says to me that we're going to see character dynamism and transformation. I feel like every screen writer goes for that with this actress, because she has a sweet adorable smile and a punchable pout. It's not fun for her to become more bratty, therefore she must start bratty and get more mature.

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Agree with your thoughts on the acting!

And I too hope Sha-on gets proper character development. She's infuriating me rn with the blackmailing and all that but they've also spent a fair bit of time showing us a bit about her past and also the kind of world she lives in now which gives me hope! Yes she's awful at the moment, but she hasn't been painted as being irredeemably awful or an outright villain, so I'll take that as a sign for possible growth and development further into the drama.

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OKAY time to go wild with the theories!

I also think him saying ‘I didn’t kill her’ is a lie because he himself thinks he is the reason that his ex-girlfriend died, not necessarily that he literally killed her. It makes sense with what we've gathered about who Do-ha is as a person and also the nuances of ‘truth’ and ‘lie’ that they’ve introduced this week (I also love that they did this, because the world is never black and white and superhero’s powers are never foolproof). I’ve got this unsettling feeling that President Jo is involved with it all somehow - he’s a bit TOO friendly and nice and he’s got a vested interest in keeping a genius composer like Kim Do-ha tied to him. Also, I just KNEW from literally ep 2 that the first lie she’d hear from Do-ha would be something to do with the beach case and I’m so glad that was what happened, because it’s satisfying and also really ups the ante in terms of intrigue.

I also agree that there’s something off about the police officer ex, but honestly that could be because I finished watching Revenge of Others not too long ago and there’s some of that bleeding into this (don’t want to spoil for anyone who hasn’t seen RoO but if you know, you know 👀). Sha-on is reminding me a lot of Won Ji-an’s character from If You Wish Upon Me, with the dangerous level of co-dependance and also emotional blackmailing, albeit not as bluntly violent as her. That final fifteen minutes of ep 4 was hard to watch, my blood was boiling for Do-ha but I’m really glad he had Sol-hee there with him. And further, like you said, @mistyisles, I’m glad this is a discussion that the show is not only raising but is actively pointing out as red flag behaviour. Because you’re absolutely right - it’s something that is often heavily romanticised, when in reality is an indication of a really unhealthy state of mind.

And finally, I’m going to pitch in for the Minhyun camp here, I think he’s doing a pretty fine job for the brief he was likely given. His character is quite very reserved and doesn’t have a chance to express much as other characters, but I’m not personally finding him super wooden or plain! I think the panic attack scene sort of cemented that for me, esp the quiet fury when he told Sayeon to GTFO out of the car. And for what it’s worth, although Seo Yul from AoS is similar-ish, I think there’s a marked difference between the two characters (which comes from a combination of script, acting and direction) - Yul was reserved but you could tell that he was a very righteous, uptight and confident kind of reserved, where Do-ha is reserved but more because he’s scared and would literally like to melt into the floor or blend into the wallpaper if given a chance. A lot of that is seen in body language too, Yul was literally upright almost all the time and walked with absolute confidence and skill, where as Do-ha looks like he’s holding himself back from cowering and crawling. Which is all to say, I don’t think...

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(continued from above...) Minhyun is playing Do-ha as he did Yul, and I’m buying what he’s selling so far. Is he as good as Kim Sohyun or Seo Ji-hoon? Nope, but he’s holding his own pretty well so far I think!

Disclaimer: Yes I’m a fan so I’m biased but I’m also an Eunwoo fan and can admit that the acting criticisms levelled against him are usually right - but even then it was after watching like a fair few of his projects and being like okay, he’s playing all his characters within a really tiny range and not fantastically at that either. I see why some people aren’t sold on Minhyun - fair enough! - but think he's doing a pretty good job so far and am keen to see how he goes for the rest of this drama.

As for my thoughts on the blossoming something between the leads: ❤️🌸 🌈 🥰 😍 💕 ✨🌹🌺 😃 I absolutely LOVE that he’s almost instinctively jumping in to protect her, and stepping out his shell without realising that way!! ITS SO CUTE.

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ONE LAST THOUGHT (no guarantees) - not the PPL they were going for but it had the same effect in a way; watching Minhyun play the piano makes me want to crack open my neglected one and dust off my piano playing skills 😂

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Yes. With the trauma and everything the way he instinctively trying to protect her and showing subtle interest in her business card was like CHEF'S KISS. *happy sighs* They are just ADORABLE together. I don't know why or what made it this bad for me, but I just am so invested in their growth and relationship. Two reclusive people trying to come out off their shells to meet the other is too cute for words. My heart.

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Couldn't agree more!! I also can't pinpoint exactly what made me this invested in them but here we are 🤷‍♀️

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I'm in hard denial about Deuk-chan being anything other than kind and beautiful and supportive, but I'm sure I'll be proven wrong soon. *sigh*

I am also Team Minhyun in this show, and I love your analysis of the differences between his portrayal of Do-ha vs. Seo Yul. Now I want to go back and watch his scenes of the panic attack and telling Sayeon to get out of the car!

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I'm also not sure why these alarm bells are ringing for me about Deuk-chan, I'd be more than happy if I was proved wrong and it was a red herring/me just confusing myself (though it'd also be neat seeing Yoon Ji-on turn the dial from sweet and supportive President to cold scheming psycho or something).

And yay for Team Minhyun ✨ ! I'm also just about rewatch that bit and the rest of the episodes to see if I missed out on any tiny details etc.

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For me I genuinely got scared of the CEO when he was telling his brother off. I actually told myself, “Wow, Deuk-chan can be really scary if he needs to.” As far as I remember I haven’t watched the actor in anything else yet, but that change in his eyes caught me by surprise and made me watch out for him. I can’t get it out of my head. So far though, in all of his scenes he’s just being a really good and protective hyung to Doha. However, I don’t like the way he’s being too strict on Shaon.

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Scratch that, I just found out the actor was in Memorist and Sweet Home and I have watched those (but I don’t really remember him 😅).

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Yea me too!! Specifically that bit where his brother off about saying Do-ha owed them for the alibi, his eyes were scary as! I've only seen him in Tomorrow and I liked his character there too, but the plot of the drama is episodic in nature and there was more of a focus placed on that and the overarching themes, so I don't recall too much detail about his specific arc in the show!

I also feel like, he's also a bit ignorant about Shaon's clearly not great mental state? I get that he maybe doesn't want to step into her business with Do-ha or speak for him but it's clear - esp. after the hospital stunt she pulled - that she's not in a healthy state of mind.

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@lapislazulii

He had a great arc with his mother in the past and in the present.

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@kurama I defs need to revisit because I'm drawing blanks even after you said that 😭 I think I was so caught up on wanting more time spent on the Ryeon x Joon-gil backstory, that I didn't pay proper attention to the other character arcs!

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@lapislazulii

Some people said to him she was a prostitutee and when he saw men getting out from his house, he said to his mother he wanted her to be his mum, he was humiliated, etc. She took her own life. After he understood, she has been raped by these men and he found them and killed them.
In the present, he's following the reincarnation of his mother who is in pain.
They shared a scene when he can talk to her as his real mother and tell her goodbye.

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His panic attack looked so real. Who said he didn't act well should pay attention to that scene. He might not be a very good one out there, but that scene he nailed it. He just nailed it. I almost felt suffocated on his behalf.

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Am I the only one having difficulties differentiating the ding-truth and dong-lie ? Half the time I just hear a bell and I have difficulties deciphering its meaning. I wish they used two sound that were more different.

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I think there is only one sound. A little bell/gong goes off when someone is lying, but if there is no sound at all (or sometimes a dramatic staring-into-a-void sound) then it's a truth. Was there a specific instance that was confusing?

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There is a bell also for a truth. But it does not ring all the time (it would be tiring for us, but also would be closer to her experience of the world).
I do not have an example, I'll try to keep it in mind for next eps.

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I also think the ding sounds are only for lies. When another person speaks the truth, the there is no sound. Sometimes, the ding sound comes a bit late, though.

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This series will help me get over the completion of King the Land and as of today... Heartbeat.

I'm enjoying this series and its wonderful cast.

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Love the jazz music, and the main characters. Also appreciate that codependency is shown as unhealthy rather than romantic. Taking a risk with a live watch with this one, I'm enjoying it so far and I hope that continues!

Watching Sha-on's bid for attention via pretend suicide gave me that cold chills gut punch feeling. She and Do-ha have known each other for a long time, and Sha-on must be one of few people aware of his backstory with his missing ex girlfriend. So I found it inexcusably atrocious that she used this knowledge of his past trauma to bring him to her, knowing this was the only way to do it after her unsuccessful bid to prey on his emotions with the hospital stint.

She went to the SAME BEACH where Do-ha lost his ex girlfriend and used similar words to feign suicide, knowing that he's still traumatized by this exact scenario. How despicable!! I get that she has mental health issues but wow, to use the trauma of someone she supposedly cares about to manipulate him is just awful. I'm so glad he was so angry with her, his quiet controlled rage was very effective.

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