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Dr. Jin: Episode 22 (Final)

After extensions and preemptions, weekend suckstravaganza Dr. Jin has finally come to an end. Some would say twenty-two episodes too late. Okay, I said it.

Shows as spectacularly awful as this don’t come around too often, and they aren’t a palate cleanser as much as a sledgehammer to the teeth. To the production team’s credit, I’m all for this kind of mildly forgettable bad (as opposed to completely forgettable blandness). I’ll certainly remember the clown car operating rooms, that time Hyuk cured cancer, and that time Song Seung-heon was so woefully miscast that he became the butt of every joke for the past three(-ish) months.

I’ll miss you, Inexcusably Terrible Show. I’ll miss you for five whole minutes.

 
FINAL EPISODE RECAP

It’s all out war on Ganghwa Island as French soldiers try to overtake a fort guarded by Korean soldiers. Cannon fire peppers the ground inside, and everything around Young-rae turns into chaos.

In a meeting of the Court, Ha-eung promises to take responsibility and lead additional forces to the island. Dae-gyun tries his hand at political scheming and gets taken to school by Ha-eung, who’s all, The adults are talking. Hee.

Ha-eung goes over the pros and cons of leading the troops with Officer Lee and Young-hwi, who have differing opinions – sure, it’ll be great for Ha-eung’s political career if he wins the war, but what if he loses?

In a move true to history, Ha-eung orders Young-hwi to gather together a special forces unit made of tiger hunters, planning to use their exceptional gunning skills as well as their balls of steel. He also wants Kyung-tak to join them, though Young-hwi isn’t sure that he can be won over.

And lastly, Hyuk crashes the meeting and asks to go with them to Ganghwa Island, because Young-rae is there.

Kyung-tak tries to drown his grief for Daddy Dearest in alcohol, and makes it clear to Young-hwi that he doesn’t want to hear one “I’m sorry” from him the second he shows up. So Young-hwi cuts to the chase – Ha-eung wants him to head to the front line with them tomorrow. In fact, Ha-eung has ordered it.

This earns a scoff from Kyung-tak, who wonders how much more ruin Ha-eung wants to bring upon his family. But Young-hwi paints a different picture – if Kyung-tak is successful in this war, then he has the chance to wipe away the infamy of the Andong Kim clan’s corrupt history and carry his clan into a new age.

Whether he does that, as Young-hwi says, is up to him. Young-hwi: “As a friend, I don’t know what to say. However, I hope you don’t just crumble away and find the will to get up again.”

He leaves Kyung-tak stewing, though Kyung-tak seems to remember that he does have a will, and murmurs Ha-eung’s name in an ominous, assassination-happy voice. If what I think is happening is happening… it better not be.

There’s plenty of fanfare as Ha-eung leads his merry band of extras through the streets as they head off to war. Hyuk and Heo Gwang bring up the rear, with the latter tearfully wishing for Hyuk’s safety as he sends him off.

And Hyuk, being such a historical genius, reminds us in voiceover that he doesn’t remember a history where Ha-eung went to war with the French. O rly? You don’t say. Gee golly, Hyuk, you sure do seem surprised that history is a little different than the way you remember it. How could this have happened?

They’re stopped on their way out by the sound of a horse neighing, which cues Kyung-tak’s reluctant hero entrance. Ha-eung sees him and thanks him (in voiceover), and continues, “Instead of your personal feelings, you have chosen the greater good. You won’t believe me, but I am truly sorry about the Left State Minister.”

Dae-gyun gets his very own alien queen hat and gleefully sits where his father once did as the new head of the Council of Evil, which by now is just the threesome of evil. Wait, that sounds bad.

Doctor Yoo reminds him of the trouble they’ll face if Ha-eung wins the war, but Dae-gyun’s already come up with a plan to stop that from happening. He wants to send men to contact the Western priest (I’m guessing he means Ridel), citing the old adage, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

We don’t know what the plan is, but we do know that Dae-gyun is going to try to tip the scales enough for Ha-eung to lose the war. But if he loses this war, isn’t it a loss for Joseon? Why are all these people excited about losing a war? There has got to be an easier way to oust Ha-eung than this sorry excuse for a plan, which is getting more nonsensical and convoluted by the second.

Ha-eung strategizes with his buddies (and Kyung-tak) about how they’ll defend a fort vastly outnumbered by French soldiers surrounding it. The isolated fort is in desperate need of a resupply, but there’s extra danger because the fort is in range of the French’s battleship cannons.

Something’s up with Kyung-tak’s silence throughout the planning session… almost like he’s listening in as a spy. Which, let’s face it, he probably is.

However, he pipes up and agrees with Ha-eung that a rash move would be dangerous – they have to wait for the right time to attack without mercy. I’d call that a good strategy if it wasn’t the unspoken and basic strategy of every war ever. How ’bout we contribute some actual strategy, Kyung-tak? I’m imagining a Braveheart level pep talk where he tells his men, “This isn’t the right timing and we’re making a rash move, but yeah! War! No mercy!”

In yet another unsurprisingly jarring cut, we see Young-rae try and fail to ward off starving peasants from stealing the clinic’s rice.

Ha-eung points out Jeongjok Fortress as their last strategic defense point to Kyung-tak, even though it’ll be hard to take the fortress when the French are better armed than they are.

Since they’re alone, Kyung-tak gives Ha-eung the hairy eyeball as he begins to draw his sword… Aww, come on, Kyung-tak. Really? You’re really going to go down this path? You really think assassinating Ha-eung will avenge your dad? You’re really going to not take one thing from your father’s sacrifice and do something stupid? Ugh. If you die this episode, I hope your daddy slaps you one in the afterlife.

Hyuk bursts into the tent (unknowingly waylaying Kyung-tak’s assassination attempt) and throws a temper tantrum. “I hear that people inside the fortress are starving. We should do something about it!” Hyuk yells. This man should not be in charge of anything.

Ha-eung has to finally point out, “When a doctor makes mistakes, you lose one patient. But when a commander makes mistakes, thousands of lives will be lost!” Ha-eung: 1,143. Hyuk: -5,000.

Dae-gyun arranges a secret meeting with Ridel and a French commander, giving them gold and the gift of Ha-eung’s strategy to bring supplies to the fort – if they can stop the supplies from going through, Ha-eung will lose the war.

The commander asks what Dae-gyun gets out of the deal, and Dae-gyun proudly proclaims that once Ha-eung is taken care of the country will be his, and he’ll be willing to work with the French.

O-kay, but then you have to trust that they’ll stop waging war after overtaking one island. Plus the thousands of troops you’re losing in this war which would leave you really open to attack. Basically, Dae-gyun, my grandma could strategize a war better than you.

It’s the middle of the day outside of a war zone and Ha-eung… is taking a nap? Whatever. This is the prone position Kyung-tak finds him in as he readies his dagger to do some assassinating, only to miss at the last second when Hyuk bursts through the tent flap.

He throws himself in front of Ha-eung for protection and tries to talk the ghost of Kyung-tak out of the plan, while Ha-eung tries to talk him into it, and offers his heart for the stabbing.

Hyuk keeps up his position as Ha-eung’s human shield. “If you must kill him, you have to go through me first,” he insists, and Kyung-tak seems fine to oblige. He’s ready to kill Hyuk when nearby cannon fire distracts them, and Hyuk uses the opportunity to body slam Kyung-tak onto a table, effectively disarming him.

Young-hwi arrives as backup and holds a sword to Kyung-tak’s neck. I feel kind of sad for what Kyung-tak has been reduced to – this is almost embarrassing. Scratch that, it’s actually embarrassing.

Ha-eung sees his supply ship go down in flames thanks to Dae-gyun, and decides that with their limited supplies, they can only fight one battle – so they have to make it count.

Hyuk takes himself away from his moping to offer up a war strategy – what if they coordinate an attack with the fortress, and sandwich (or would it be croissant?) the French between their forces and the fortress?

Everyone thinks that’s a great idea, but it depends on how synchronized the attack is. Hyuk volunteers to alert the fortress.

But he doesn’t want to go alone, since he recruits Kyung-tak to send the message to the fortress while he gets Young-rae out. He knows Kyung-tak loathes both him and Ha-eung but implores him to help save Young-rae, who might share the same bad fate with Mina.

Hasn’t it been like five minutes since Kyung-tak tried to kill him and Ha-eung? Why on earth would you trust someone like that with delivering a message that could decide the course of a war? In what universe does this make sense?

Ha-eung even sends him off with no hard feelings, which is almost sadder for Kyung-tak because no one takes him seriously. Assassination attempt? Pfft, it was just a Kyung-tak temper tantrum. No biggie.

Ha-eung: “The future of Joseon is in your hands, Doctor Jin.” (That is the worst possible place it could be.) Hyuk and Ha-eung share what sounds like their final goodbyes, even though Ha-eung asks if they’ll ever see each other alive again.

“We’ll meet again, definitely.” Hyuk says, and Ha-eung believes him.

In the dead of night, Hyuk and Kyung-tak try to find a way to sneak into the guarded fort. It’s not long before Hyuk is found by a French soldier, but Kyung-tak swiftly slices him down.

At Hyuk’s shocked face, Kyung-tak deadpans, “What? Are you going to perform surgery on him or something?” HA. Where was snarky, deadpan-y Kyung-tak this entire series?

Ha-eung readies his own troops, and tells Young-hwi that they’ll wait for Hyuk’s signal before they attack.

Our ambiguously heroic duo get caught by Korean soldiers, who drag them into the fortress thinking that they’re spies. Luckily, Young-rae spots them and clears them of suspicion.

When he finds out that Young-rae came to the fortress to die (since she found out about Mina dying in the future), Hyuk has a shining moment of finally being the second biggest idiot in the room instead of the first, and chastises her for believing that she shares the same fate as Mina. Even though he just told Kyung-tak that he believes she shares the same fate as Mina. Whatever, consistency was never Hyuk’s strong point.

Either way, idiocy loves company, and Hyuk decides to stay at the fortress with her.

Kyung-tak successfully delivers the strategy message to the soldiers in the fortress, and they wave the signal flag to Ha-eung the morning of the battle. Ha-eung prepares his men to execute the plan.

Kyung-tak battles throat cancer while his men battle the French, who’ve set up positions outside the fortress with guns and cannon fire. It’s all out war, and Hyuk and Young-rae are busy tending to the wounded.

Just when things are looking grim, Ha-eung’s men advance from the rear and start to move in on the French battalion. Cannon fire keeps pelting the fortress and it’s too close to the trauma tent for Hyuk’s liking, so he and Young-rae help move the patients to a safer spot.

Kyung-tak mans the front lines and throws himself into the thick of battle once the French break down the door and start funneling into the fortress. Hyuk finds Young-rae missing while they take a secret path out, and heads back toward the battle, finding her huddled near the clinic tent.

He protects her from nearby cannon fire, and she hurriedly hands him Mina’s ring, which she’d been keeping all this time. Their escape path is soon blocked by French soldiers, until Kyung-tak arrives to drunkenly swing his sword around, providing them an escape route while he keeps the soldiers busy, looking like he’s already got one foot in the afterlife.

Hyuk goes back to save Kyung-tak, but not soon enough to save him from getting two stomach stabs from a bayonet. Hyuk kills the soldier and does that thing where he looks at blood on his hands like he’s never seen it before, you know the one I’m talking about.

Young-rae panics over Kyung-tak’s condition, and it’s clear from Hyuk’s facial expression that he’s dying. Cue inappropriately timed romantic ballad while he delivers his dying words, which happen to be ones he’s said to her before: “No matter what the world says, you’re mine. My lover.”

And with that, Kyung-tak dies.

Now that I’m wearing black; remember the candlelit breast exam, when the romantic ballad cut off the second he found a lump? Same thing here, only the abrupt cutoff comes in the form of a cannonball exploding nearby.

However, Young-rae gets stabbed by shrapnel and loses consciousness. Hyuk gives that “What is this foreign substance?” look at his bloody hands again before he carries her to the clinic. Lordy, is that a rock wedged in her tummy?

Young-rae stops him from going through with the surgery, claiming that this is her fate, because it was Mina’s fate. She doesn’t want him to interfere and disappear like Chun-hong said, but Hyuk insists tearfully, “If I let you go like this, then all the time that I spent here will become meaningless. Even though I lost her… at least I will save you.”

He puts the anesthesia mask on her and prepares for surgery.

Meanwhile, Young-hwi informs Ha-eung that the French soldiers are on the retreat, which means they’re winning.

The Jar Fetus brain zaps Hyuk just as he’s about to start the surgery, with that disembodied voice saying: “I must go back.” I love that Hyuk is talking to the fetus in his brain by saying “No, not right now!” Ha.

Without gloves and with his hands shaking like a leaf, Hyuk pulls the rock out of Young-rae and starts suturing.

Meanwhile, soldiers bring Kyung-tak’s dead body to Young-hwi, who breaks my heart when he tearfully holds his old friend and speaks to him as though he were alive. This is surprisingly super, super sad.

Young-hwi eventually just devolves into sobs and makes me curse the day the writers gave up on Kyung-tak.

Hyuk finishes suturing Young-rae up and heads to the well, where a wounded French soldier bayonets him in the stomach. Hyuk has a vision of the Bandaged Man, and again, he doesn’t want to go back.

So he randomly crawls up a high wall, which I’m hoping is part of his back to the future plan and not just because it was in the script. He thinks of Young-rae, then Mina, before he falls off the wall.

Fade to white.

Hyuk wakes up in the hospital (of the fuuuture!) with a bandage on his head. Oh hell no, are they pulling a This was all a dream! on us?

His colleague tells him the surgery was successful, but Hyuk still stumbles down the hall to Mina’s room… where she’s not dead. He grabs her hand in relief and tells her: “Oppa is back. Oppa came back from very far away. Mina… you’ve been alright so far. So nothing will happen to you. Don’t worry, got it? Don’t worry.”

We find him back on the hospital roof trying to absorb that he’s really come back to the future. His colleague meets him for some verbal exposition – he disappeared from the hospital and was found on Ganghwa Island only a day after, wearing a “strange outfit.”

Best part? The colleague is all, Oh yeah! They found a strange tumor in your head and removed it. Which, like, what? He gets brain surgery and gets one whole decorative ribbon as a bandage? C’mon, people.

Hyuk wants to know about that other guy with the brain fetus they removed, but his colleague has no idea what he’s talking about. He tells Hyuk that the brain fetus was removed from his brain. There was no other patient or brain fetus.

Hyuk deduces the obvious – something has changed. In this universe, he didn’t fall off the hospital roof, but just disappeared and reappeared on an island a day later. After four days of surgery he woke up, and no one remembers the Bandaged Man.

Lo and behold, he sees Chun-hong Lite wheel her way around with her rubik’s cube, but she wheels the other way as soon as she sees him. He doesn’t get a chance to follow her when chaos breaks out in Mina’s room, since she’s flatlining.

Hyuk starts emergency resuscitation, and actually stops in the middle to think of Chun-hong’s dying words that Mina was already dead. He refuses to believe it and doctors harder, eventually performing the holy grail of medical dramas: The Dramatic Defibrillator.

Cue flashback of all his times with Young-rae as he desperately tries to save Mina. I love that one of his memories is of her chest squirting blood during the cancer surgery.

His colleague urges him to give up, but Hyuk refuses and only pumps her chest harder, saying, “If it was going to end like this, then why?!”

Back in the past, we see Young-rae wake from surgery. And of course, at the same time, Mina’s heart starts beating again in the future.

Hyuk finds Mini Chun-hong in the hallway, and surprises her by knowing her name and where she came from. He assures her that she’ll get to go back to her own time, but asks for a favor: “Later, when you become an adult, you might see me again. When you see me then, make sure you mention this: That the person called Mina… woke up safely.”

He thanks her, and apologizes for misunderstanding her most of the time. He realizes that originally, Chun-hong heard that Mina was supposed to die from the Bandaged Man. Hyuk wonders if that man came back to this world to save Young-rae. Hyuk wonders, in voiceover: “Could he be… yet another me?”

So Hyuk runs to his local library (gasp! History he doesn’t already know? Pinch me.) and finds a faint record of Young-rae working as a doctor in Joseon. He sighs in relief that she lived, and wonders if that means Mina will be okay.

He keeps vigil by her bedside until she wakes up from her coma. He cries from relief, and she whispers, “I… had a very long and strange dream. For a dream, it was too vivid…” He’s stopped dead in his tracks when she calls him “Doctor Jin”, using the Joseon word that Young-rae always called him.

Mina claims that’s what she called him in her dream. “Isn’t it strange?” she wonders. “You probably won’t believe me if I say it to you.” But Hyuk is overwhelmed as he assures her that no, he’ll believe it.

“Thank you,” Mina ekes out. “And… I’m sorry, Oppa.” Hyuk just cries.

There’s a brief fake out when we see a good ol’ fashioned Joseon sword fight, but it’s just a show for the tourists. Hyuk is among them, and stands on the palace grounds where he once did with Ha-eung.

And then… Ha-eung stands right next to him, with Hyuk happy to see him. I’m sure it’s a vision but the fact that he’s talking to it is a little weird. Either way, Vision Ha-eung remarks on this modern Joseon happily, and Hyuk smiles: “No matter where we are, people’s joy, anger, happiness, and pleasure are all the same.”

He asks Ha-eung if he achieved the Joseon he dreamed of, and Ha-eung tells him that he can come back to the past if he’s so curious. Hyuk declines because he has Mina to protect, and Ha-eung nods his understanding.

Ha-eung: “Doctor Jin. I think I will miss you a lot.” Hyuk: “I… will never forget you.” Aww. This show is so awful, but this moment has me all choked up. Especially when they exchange inside jokes from their first meeting, and when Ha-eung calls him “100 Nyang”, just like old times.

As Ha-eung walks off into oblivion, Hyuk tells us that he didn’t ask if Young-rae was doing well, since he knows that if Mina is safe and happy here, so is Young-rae.

Hyuk brings the engagement ring (which was found in his “strange outfit”) to Mina, and slips it on her finger as he explains that he was going to propose the day of the accident.

Holding her hand, he asks, “Oppa’s not too late, right?” She smiles. He smiles.

 
COMMENTS

What.

WHAT.

WHAT?

I thought I was pretty resigned to having a terrible ending for a terrible show, but this finale was supercalijinilisticterribleidocious. On one end of the spectrum I’m both awed and amazed that the writers gave us such a hearty middle finger by not answering any of the problems they set up, and on the other, I’m just trying to figure out what story I was being told for the last twenty-two episodes, and for that matter, why that story needed to be told at all.

First thing’s first: Kyung-tak’s death. No surprise there, since his fate was pretty much guaranteed the moment he showed up on screen. For one of the few characters I actually found interesting, it was sad to see his trajectory spiral downward from episode one. There was potential for him to go places and do things, but he never went to those places, nor did he do those things. If the show had one message to convey that it actually worked at conveying, it’s that Kyung-tak’s life sucked, and then he died.

His trajectory was maybe one of the more thought-out ones in the series, and Jaejoong really did put his all into the role and acted his heart out until the bitter end. But let’s face it, Kyung-tak was a crappy character. Slightly less crappy than the other characters, but crappy nonetheless – and there’s only so much an actor can do.

There was such a wasted opportunity for him to make a redeeming change in this episode, but instead Kyung-tak felt like killing Ha-eung just so he could be magnanimously forgiven afterward, even though he almost killed Ha-eung once by, yunno, shooting him in the chest. I’m glad(?) all was forgiven but it just doesn’t make sense that Hyuk and Ha-eung would be chomping at the bit to trust Kyung-tak with country-saving information. Surely any other warm body would do, right? Unless they really just saw him and his assassination attempts as a cry for help and… you know what, I’m not even going to try. It’s just no use.

So then we went from Assassination Kyung-tak to Zombie Kyung-tak, and sort of glossed over the reason behind helping Hyuk, though I’d guess it had something to do with Young-rae. I don’t quite know what the intention was with having his final words be totally irrelevant, and it just cemented the fact that Kyung-tak never lived for himself because he thought it was his “fate”, which is one of the worst cop-outs. Ever.

Except that’s really just a cop-out blip on the cop-out radar that was this entire finale. I’d normally guess that the writers had no idea how they were going to end the show when they started it, but then I remember that this is an adaptation from a successful Japanese drama, and wonder why they couldn’t have just stolen that drama’s ending so at least this nonsense could make some godforsaken sense.

If I understood what this episode was trying to say, it’s that Young-rae and Mina have this metaphysical tie that only works sometimes, or one way – and either way, Young-rae’s health impacts Mina in the future. Hyuk figured this out at some point, or something, and got fatally wounded for no reason in the past so he could walk up a random wall and fall into the future, where his brain fetus was promptly removed offscreen. The end.

Except he fell into a world where the the Bandaged Man never existed. Where Chun-hong was still a child. Where no questions were ever answered. Where Mina and Young-rae are the same person kind of sort of because Mina dreamed she was Young-rae.

Most of all, a world where history vaguely remembers Young-rae but not the fact that Hyuk cured cholera, cancer, syphilis, arsenic poisoning, bullet wounds, shrapnel wounds, gastric ulcers, neck tumors, breech births, blood clots, ear bugs, brain tumors, tummy branches, and pretty much everything except Kyung-tak’s bayonet wounds.

Where all the questions this show initially set up (Brain fetus! Bandaged man!) were given a passing mention at best but no resolution at all. Where nothing made sense. Ever. Maybe it really is Jinception, and Hyuk is just in a parallel universe within a parallel universe where he gets to live happily with Mina. Or maybe he’s still dreaming this all up from a hospital bed. Or maybe he died in the past from that stomach wound and this is all the afterlife. Maybe any one of those explanations would be more palatable than the negative amount of explanations we were given.

Still, there’s only so much ranting to be done in the scope of this sheer level of fail, and I’m pretty sure I filled that quota. At the end of the day this show was one big kingly fart that we’re all waiting to air out of the room. Did that fart mean anything? No. Were the comments fun? Yes. You all helped turn Dr. Jin into something to look forward to, and for that I’m grateful. Thanks for the laughs. And as they say in Jin, we’ll meet again.

…But hopefully on a show that sucks just a little less.

 
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all i have to say is that thank god KSY didnt take the role

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Okay, I know this show SUCKS on a thousand level, but damn I'm DYING to know the explanation behind the time travel, the brain fetus, the parallel world and their friends.
For someone who already watch the Japanese version, please please explain to me what actually happen and ho the ending was in the Japanese version...
Thanks before!

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In the Japanese drama, Jin came to the Edo period after he fall down from the roof of the hospital. That part you know, since it's similar in Dr. Jin. The fetus brought Jin to the Edo period to save, Saki; his assistant. In JP history, Saki is probably inspired by Gingo Ogino, the first female physician. So she's one of those that needs to be saved, so it make sense that the fetus brought Jin back in time to save her. Jin is cold, and has a problem with doing surgery due to his failures on operating on his gf, Miki. She wanted him to operate on her when she developed cancer, but he didn't go through, instead it was his friend who did, and successfully put her in a coma state. So in Edo period, he thinks of it as fate that brought him there to save the incarnation of Miki. He accepts the fate, and is very calm, once in a while questions why he was brought there. He also have problems in doing what is right, or changing history, that's why he was hesitant to save people, but then he realized that if it's fate, then he should just give the medicine field a push, so medicine can advance and hopefully it can cure cancer in the future. Saki ( YR ) was his assistant in that period. She was brought up to be like other young women, when of age, she should be married, but she fell for Jin, however, in the drama, Jin kind of rejected her, so she determined to be a doctor one day, more career minded. Nokaze is the ancestor of Miki. She is an Oiran, not to be mistaken with Geisha. Oiran is prostitute, while Geisha is female entertainer using traditional art, no sex related. She likes Jin, but Jin knows who she is and attempted to find her a husband so she can reproduce. I think she has breast cancer or something, he did a surgery on her and it was successful, and she later married a foreigner, and gave birth to a daughter, who later adopted by Saki? Don't remembered clearly.

Edo period was a shift between powers, one of Jin's friend is a well known samurai in JP history, the way they weaved the story was Jin was there to save him a few times until the day of his birthday, that he was assassinated. After he was assassinated, war broke out, and Saki was hit by a bullet, there was not enough penicillin to save her, but Jin remembered the branded patient that he chased after stole a penicillin vial from the hospital, in the robe. They went and search for it. Jin remembered it was dropped at the hill where he landed. He went there, but fall and dropped in central park of Tokyo? I remembered it was a park they found him. Back in Edo period, Saki's older brother (?) found the vial, she's saved.

Back to modern time, Jin woke up in the hospital, and he questioned time travel. A colleague of his, the one who operated on him. Explains to him, all really confusing, but make sense at the same time. I think it's better if I give you an example.

All are one Jin, there is a College Jin, and a Graduated College, became a doctor Jin.

The Dr. Jin timeslip, and goes into Edo period, during that time, College Jin became Dr. Jin.

No, the College Jin became Dr. Jin. And Dr. Jin becomes Edo Dr. Jin.

Edo Dr. Jin, then gets back to the future with a brain cancer. Dr. Jin operated on him, found a fetus tumor, stored it away, now Edo Dr. Jin is a patient.

Patient woke up, all bandaged up, goes to steal some needles, surgery related tools, and a vial. Caught by Dr. Jin on the roof, murdered "I must go back". This tell us that he is in a hurry. Dr. Jin prevented him, then fall, goes to Edo period. Now all focuses on that Dr. Jin, now becomes Edo Dr. Jin. Patient Dr Jin now becomes... we don't know, cause they never show it to us.

What I take from this, somehow, Dr. Jin got timeslip, goes to Edo period, did something there, but fail to save Saki, supposed to be Japan first female physician. However, he improved the medical field a bit, which explains why Dr. Jin to successfully operated on himself and took out the tumor, who happened to be a magic fetus. Who dragged the current, more educated Dr. Jin to timeslip. Then he improved the medical field a bit more, and successfully saved the first female physician of JPN, because old Dr. Jin stole a penicillin vial. So he comes back with a tumor, but was taken out by a colleague, however, no magic fetus in his brain. Met Miki, and realized that he doesn't exist in Edo period, but there is a female physician who somewhat, remembered. The story, is probably telling people how JP medical field develop, and where the female physician learns her art from. That something great, only came from a futuristic figure who timeslip. That's what I take in the drama, idk about the manga. I heard it's different, the ending at least.

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I'm sorry for the grammatical errors, I was typing this while trying to remember what I watched months ago, while analyzing it over, as well as falling asleep in the middle of the day.

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I'm sorry for the grammatical errors, I was typing this while trying to remember what I watched months ago, while analyzing it over, as well as falling asleep in the middle of the day.

"no" = now
"branded" = bandaged
"murdered" = murmured.

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Well, this does make sense!!!

However something irkes me here...so the first female physician learnt her art from a futuristic figure? Why the first female physician and not some other physician? Because here it does seem like because she's a female, she cannot have learnt her art from someone else than a figure from the heavens or from the future...

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There are others who work with her and Jin that got recognition. They are the team that set up the Western Medical Clinic. I just put her because she's one of the main lead. And I think they wanted to have a loveline, and she's much more well known historical figure. So it sets up the story for them already. It's not just her that learns from a futuristic figure, but the whole Western Medical Clinic, team. And it also shows that Ryoma only got so far thanks to Jin, who saved him a few times so he can set up the events, before his assassinations.

The whole point is that, Jin went back to save historical figures, like Saki and Ryoma, as well as propelled their goals. If Jin didn't go back and save Saki's brother, then he wouldn't meat her, and she would've been married instead of going to the medical field, and no first female physician. If Jin goes back, but fail to save Saki, no first female physician.

I hope you understand that.

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Yes I do understand, don't worry I was joking a bit! ^^

Actually this Japanese version seems very good from what I've heard so far from you people, so I think I'm gonna watch it. :)

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Yeah, actually, if Korean were to make it, I wouldn't be surprised that they would make Saki or YR learn from a futuristic figure. Heck, they don't want her character to be a career minded one, they have her all sulky, desperately in love with a doctor.

At first, while watching the drama, it was good, but not as great until I research more on JP history. And after watching Dr. Jin, I realized why it happen, and further realizing that JP first female physician is during that time, it's all clear as what Jin is, in the story. And how, he changes history, but not really. unlike the Korean version, where Jin changes history, and let fate fix it. I think, it would make more sense if they tell us, when KT's father will die, what time period, in order for Jin to save him, many times, to make sense. Like they did in the JP version, Jin keep a look out for Ryoma because he knows when Ryoma should die, if Ryoma die in a different time, it's changing the course of history. So another bad part in Korean version is, not highlighting certain aspects of history. That, or not trusting the audience to research and think for themselves. Chun Hong didn't help when she kept telling Jin not to save who shouldn't be save, especially when Jin probably knows history, and knows when Kim Byung Hee should die. Or when Andon Kim Clan falls. So maybe all this time, he's saving Kim Byung Hee because it's not the right time, and doing so would change the course of history.

It's such a pity when you look further in and realize how much potentials this drama had.

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Wow, thanks very much!
So in the Japanese one, they emphasize the importance of Saki (YR) character, right? Whereas in here, she is reduced into just a romance fodder. I still despise that almost 90% of her actions is to save Hyuk, or to accomodate with Hyuk, or to not burden Hyuk. What the hell? It irks me more that in Japanese version she actually has an important role, a model of one of very first female physician!
Even tho I love Korean drama, but this is what I hate the most about them: everything HAS to have a loveline that they reduce the character to be love driven.... Ugh.
Because of this abomination of a drama, at first I hesitate to watch the Jap version, but I think I'll give it a chance now :D

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This is really interesting, thank you for sharing it with us, Mice!
Dr Jin seems an intelligent character in the japanese drama, and I like that the show wasn't focused on the love story. I can feel your love for that show through your words!
It is really a pity that the korean version did screw up that much...

Am gonna watch the japanese version! :)

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Finally~ I was waiting for somebody to explain about the Japanese version. I watched the japanese version first before the Korean version. And since I heard that both seasons of JIN achieved high ratings, it makes me even more excited to watch. And few weeks before the first ep of TSDJ aired, I finished watching both 2 seasons of JIN. I loved JIN, so much. I regard JIN as one of my favourite jdorama ever. I even did research on japanese history to understand what's going on with the storyline. And since I'm studying medical also, I kinda have an attachment with all the advancement in medical field way back in Edo-jidai. Love how Minakata sensei tried to explain to the Edo people how modern medicine work. They even invented the penicilin together. ^_^

But then I watched the first episode of TSDJ, hoping that the show will be as good as JIN, and I give up. Right after the first episode. If only they follow exactly the storyline of JIN..but then they have to fit it with Korean history..Hmm. After that, I just came here to read the recaps and it turns out that my initial feeling about TSDJ was right after all. Although this drama has my favourite Jaejoong in it..such a waste of talent.

My point being..LOVE JIN. not so love TSDJ..the storyline in JIN makes sense, the cast in JIN were awesome, even the OSTs were amazing. Love the little detail that they created to reproduce the Edo-jidai, especially the place where Minakata-sensei broods about his future, Miki and the purpose of being time-slipped into Edo-jidai. Love Ryoma's accent..=)

Thanks for the short and accurate recaps of JIN.=)

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This review is making me laugh so much. I love these reviews. Dr. Jin makes no sense to me and the ending didn't answer any questions writers set up.

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Also, Han Hee, the Director for this drama. Needs to go back to directing school. Before Dr. Jin, the last drama he directed was Over the Rainbow, back in 2006. 6 years ago! That explains the awkward outdated editing.

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Your recaps were more fun than the show. Makes me sad that something with such great source material and potential got so effed up. More than anything, I blame the production team more than the actors. Bad or god, they all tried their best in this. The production team, I don't think so. *sigh*

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Congrats on finishing the series! Thanks for making me laugh when I couldn't stand watching this crappy show. Ugh I seriously felt that this show had so much potential but failed...like hardcore. Sigh, I was actually looking forward to the show from the beginning too...oh was I so stupid to what was in store for me.
Aw well, onward to less crappy shows!

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Oh man. I love your comments and humor. Basically this show was even hard to read about, and I'll admit I skipped a couple of recaps, and skimmed through a lot just to see your funny commentary on different scenes. "What is this foreign substance?!" Lol. You're a great recapper Heads! I wish I could buy you a drink for putting up with this batshit crazy drama.

It's too bad for Jaejoong that his character (well, and the entire drama I guess) was written so poorly, it seems like he's doing well as an actor, I thought he was great in protect the boss. Hopefully his next drama pick isn't so catastrophic.

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That was one heck of an unforgettable drama...for reasons I won't bother to mention.

Thank you for the recaps HeadsNo2, they were really funny:)

And so much lol@JINCEPTION. That's perfect!

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If you did not watch the show you can probably enjoy Faith more. Unfortunately for me, I did, and now get immediately repelled when I think about a doctor time traveling to the past.
I have watched the first two episodes of Faith, but periodically during them I would think "Why am I doing this to myself. Do I really want to be Jinned again?"
I am ready to bolt and quit at the first sign of weird, pieced together, fan fiction level writing.

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"Do I really want to be Jinned again?”

:D I swear, "Jin" is going to remain in our vocabulary forever...

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Heads~

Thank you for taking one for the team.

I had just finished watching both seasons of the J Drama Jin prior to this show's debut. I loved Ayase Haruka as Saki.

I also loved Park Min-young in Sungkyunkwan Scandal.

I couldn't bring myself to see her in this dog of a show.

(vows)<-- Must keep images of cute PMY from Sungkyunkwan Scandal and act as though this show never happened.

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Thanks for the Recap.

From the beginning, I compared this show with the original Japanese Version, and decide that I like the Japanese one better!

For those who haven't been watching the Japanese version, even though it less romantic as most of the Japanese TV show compare to Korean TV Show it's still interesting since the shows were maintaining the miraculous of medical things , there were some plots about politics too but the Japanese Jin is more "tough"and not cheesy like SSH who always confuse and worry towards Agashi (probably it is not his mistake though perhaps because the story line, in Japanese version the lover is the Geisha not the noble lady).

But I do interested and admit that LBS and Jaejoong are the ones who keep me watch till its end.

As usual LBS is a great actor and perform the character very well but I've never thought of Jaejoong ..he is awesome, his acting ability is progressing and of course the song that he sang for the soundtrack..gosh! I could not get it out of my head hahahaha

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Song Seung Heon is disappointing as an actor. For more than ten years now, he still haven't prove himself worthy as an actor. He is very beautiful to look at, but he can not act that well at all. It's like he have a hard time getting into characters.

When I read that he said that acting could be fun after My Princess, I was hoping that he would become a better actor after that drama, but Dr. Jin just proves that he still have a long way to go.

When I first saw Song in Autumn Story, he was my bias. I even choose Won Bin over him. However, for the past few years now, Won Bin has proven himself to be a better actor than Song.

In Dr. Jin, I feel that even Jaejoong acting is better than Song.

I'll apologize if I come off as very critical of Song, but he really disappoints as an actor, especially when he already have more than ten years of experience in the industry. I feel like some actors who have less experience than him are better actors than he is....

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I am virtually sending you lotsa soju, kalbi and makgulli :)
I salute your determination in finishing this sucky drama till the bitter end :)
Imagine watching this drama for 22 hours and it ends with a WTF fart - just boggles my mind. I am speechless!

You ROCK HeadsNo2!!!

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Thank you so much HeadsNo2, for the hilarious recap. You made my day!

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I have no shame in admitting i read the recaps just for headsno2's snarkiness

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I have no shame in admitting i read the recaps just for headsno2's snarkiness... XD

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LOLOLOL AHAHAHA. I do believe this will officially get "WORST DRAMA EVER" among its respective titles (Weirdest? Most bloody? Most pointless?). It was so horrible...I didn't even try watching after the first 15 minutes or so, but your recaps, HeadsNo2, were amazing.

Every week was lol-worthy just because I was able to read this. Thank you for not giving up on the recaps! Made my days haha.

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The long-awaited Dr. Jin finale recap <3 ! I felt like I couldn't get a closure for this show without Heads' closing comments lol. Thank you so much for the fun ride <3 !!!

As for the episode itself......
Nah. Nothing I can say that has not already been said much better in the above recap. The take-away for me from Dr. Jin are some memorable, well-acted scenes here and there, Young-hwi & his actor Jin Yi-han, my crazily fun twitter TL during the show's airing, Heads' hilarious recaps, and Jaejoong's remarkable growth as an actor (not saying he's perfect, but STILL!!!). And surprisingly, these are sufficient to make this insane and often frustrating journey worthwhile for me =)

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Hats off to HeadsNo2!!!

I was thinking how much a bad drama is like a bad marriage for actors. If you stay in it you suffer terribly but if you leave (think Spy Myung Wol - sp?) you suffer even more. I think that the actors deserve respect for going down with the ship.

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Sorry for the duplicate comment. My computer said that it didn't go through (both times). Sorry, sorry, sorry!!!

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Hats off to HeadsNo2!!!

I was thinking how much a bad drama is like a bad marriage for actors. If you stay in it you suffer terribly but if you leave you can even suffer even more (Spy Myung Wol). I think that the actors deserve respect just for sticking it out.

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Heads!
You recapped it!!
I've been eagerly checking Dramabeans a few times a day waiting for your recap. I thought you had gone into hiding to avoid doing it :D
Thank you so much for hanging in there! I forced myself to watch until episode 4, but after that I couldn't do it anymore. Thank god for your hilarious recaps!
I have nothing to say about the drama, because you, and the fabulous commenters, have said it all. And said it much better than I ever could have.
Bravo for sticking it out until the end. I don't know how you did it.
Once again, thank you so much for making a truly shitty trainwreck of a drama entertaining :)

Although I didn't like the plot, I initially had hope for this drama. That changed as soon as I watched the first couple of episodes.
Jae, I may love you, but YOU HAD BETTER CHOOSE A BETTER DRAMA NEXT TIME!

The only good thing about this drama- Jae's OST.
And of course the recaps :D

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LOL hearty middle finger. All I can picture now is a entire staff photo of everyone flipping the bird.

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comedy hit of the summer.

howwwwwww do you take 2 seasons and a completed manga's worth of source material and create this abortion of a drama?! howwwwww

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I wish I saw these recaps earlier to save me all that time lost.

I kept up with this drama for the first 12 or so episodes then just had to stop watching because of how much it sucked and dragged. I spent the past week watching the remainder and I am just dumbfounded on how much worse it ended up being. The story continued becoming a god awful mess that I must have thought to myself "I'm sure everything will be explained eventually!" I admit I did like the cast though so perhaps a part of me chose to finish it for their sake.

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Well I guess we can say that it consitently provided a WTF resolution to a WTF story.

Thank you! I loved your History of the Salaryman recaps, and Dr. Jin caps for what the story was worth. Let us hope Lee Bum Soo's next project is miles better. Thanks for being a great sport!

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"Hyuk kills the soldier and does that thing where he looks at blood on his hands like he’s never seen it before, you know the one I’m talking about." --> Pffft! LOL! I know you what you're talking about!

Thank you for recapping this awful series and for making it probably the funniest set of recaps I've ever read. If I ever need a laugh, I'll just stop on by your Dr.Jin recaps!

From the size of Hyuk's bandage, Hyuk's tumor must be the size of a raisin! The series went all out to be bloody and sort of gross, but with Hyuk's post-surgery look, they have him looking uber pretty. Don't get it...

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"...which is almost sadder for Kyung-tak because no one takes him seriously. Assassination attempt? Pfft, it was just a Kyung-tak temper tantrum. No biggie."

LOL, soo agree with you about this,but kind funny by the way seeing how many time hae eung almost get killed by Kyung tak but he didnt even think that incident is something serious, still remember in the first eps somehow ha eung mocking how kyung tak as a concubine son can be arrogant like that but now it's kind funny seeing how he just see kyung tak like a little brother who anger coz no one pay attention to him,
aah i hope i can see more ha eung-kyung tak moment a little bit more, did kyung tak will still hate ha eung if he know his evil brother actually the reason his father died?

anyway, many people say this is a happy ending but not for kyung tak and young hwi fans..to sad its like after Jin back to the future i don't feel anything about this two bromance, that they are exist and have a tragic story life for the whole 22 epis..sigh..

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O yes. Kyungtak finding out about his brother would have made such an interesting turn of events rather than him attempting to kill Ha eung. ugh.

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Weird. You managed to save yourself from the most stupid/horrible/pathetic drama of 2012 - Fashion King, after 2 episode, but you couldn't save yourself from Dr. Jin. I wonder what made you to continue although you realized long before about the close competition with FK.

But hey, HeadsNo2, that's why I truly love you. I think you're the only person who can get the good from the bad - to take something seriously lags in levels and make it witty, sharp and pungent is God's blessing and you, my dear, very blessed... Now, will I challenge you?

60 episode. Estorical. Sorta medical. Great(!) cast. Did I say 60 episodes? Think about it.

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this show suck so bad... I stop watching it for my health. I develop a brain tumor from it and i had to be hospitalized. And my Dr. name was Jin... i seriously had a mental break down and thought I was going insane.

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Thank God it's over!! I watched all 22 eps! I don't know why! Maybe it was a challenge to myself. I snorted with laughter the entire time. I'm not even going to analyze the last ep. It was bizarre! On to the next drama...

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This show just plain sucked for me. Sorry for the people that worked hard in it for nothing.

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Honestly, the only part I cared about this finale was

1. YH screaming with KT's death.

2. Vision Ha Eung meeting in the future. Regardless of if it was a vision or if it was some randomless of him actually getting there somehow and then vanishing in the middle of GyP, it was those moments which made it seem like, those 2 chrs actually had some nice synergy since they first met.

The actor who pulled off Ha Eung really did a great job

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I dont't know which is worst....Dr Jin or Fashion King?/

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I just don't get it, so...jumping from the hill made him go back to the future? What the...? Heads, congrats...u finaly made it, recaping the whole hell lot. I'm positively wont watch the show, but I did read the whole recap you wrote. Thanks a bunch Heads!

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Congratulations for making it to the end!! And thanks for recapping!! I don't know if watching this drama is painful, but reading your recaps is a pleasure. Dr. Jin may be a bad drama, but it sure makes for a great recap reading experience. I can't tell you how many times I snorted in laughter at your acerbic observations. I don't know about you, but I think I'll forever associate breast exams with the candle lit, glistening eyed, romantic ballad overlaid one of Dr. Jin. One can't help selfishly wishing that you'd recap another lame drama. I will miss your great sense of humor :(

I wasn't surprised at all by the endings because I've seen comments about parallel universes made by people who have seen the Japanese version. However, the more one thinks about the Korean ending, the more unsatisfied one gets. So I'll try not to think about it, lol.

And zomg, how hilarious is it that Hyuk had brain surgery and yet still has his full head of perfectly styled hair.

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hahah holy crap. i just realized the hair thing!

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I have been waiting for your final recap all week! Thanks for your razor sharp Observations and too many laugh out loud moments!

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Wow. Just wow. I really fail to see the plot, but I was sad to see that Kyung-Tak died and did not grow as a person, and I felt for his relationship with Young-Hwi. That was pretty much it...But really HeadsNo2 thanks so much for making this series into something because without your hilarious comments, I really could not come up with a reason for this to exist.

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Thank you for your amazing work, Heads! :) Sorry that this turned out be a lot more work than this series ever truly deserved. For what it's worth, your commentary alone made this series so worth reading.

Enjoy the time you have off between projects friend! Have I mentioned how amazing you are? <3

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Wow. The end.
was dr.jin in cahoots with Big ?
fingers crossed that this doesn't become a new trend in k-drama land.
Headsno2, my appreciation for you has grown a bunch. Thank you so much for your witty and hilarious comments that probably made alot of peoples day.
*Raises makgeolli to heads.*

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And i dont think anyone would have minded if you dropped the series midway, although alot of us would miss your laugh-out-loud commentary.

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Thank you, Heads, for the snark and the new Jin-based vocabulary. :D

Now, as for this episode...so...much....nonsense. Nearly every scene was ridiculous/unbelievable/nonsensical. This may sound like an exaggeration, but it really really isn't.

I knew that kyung-tak was gonna die, but couldn't they have let him die in ANY way that had some meaning? For Young-hwi, perhaps? For a new Joseon? Why was Young-rae still stupidly sitting there in the line of fire anyway? She stayed to protect....Jin's ring?! And THAT'S WHY KT DIED? SMH.

Oh, and did anybody notice in the failed-assassination scene when Hyuk was restraining Kyung tak - he was holding down his neck and right arm. And what about KT's LEFT arm? Oh, it was just lying beside him on the table like a dead carp. Right.

So then Hyuk and KT are trying to sneak into the fort, acting all stealthy and whatnot, and the camera pans out and.....oops, they're surrounded by 20 soldiers. How EXACTLY did they miss all those guys tromping through the woods?

"Kyung-tak deadpans, “What? Are you going to perform surgery on him or something?” <-- I think this was the only good line in the show. I'm was thinking the writers had never even SAID anything funny, let alone written it down.

I could go on, but really, I don't have the strength.

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3 things.

1--Thank you, everyone. Thanks Heads2No for the awesome sauce recaps. Thanks to everyone for busting my gut with hilarity over this crap-tastic drama. I'll never forget you..this..the humor over flowers. thank you.

2--Really glad this drama is over. Betting the cast and crew are too. JJ...thanks for allowing us to watch you transform your craft during this drama. It was a privledge.

3--Show...you suck for giving us a sucky final episode. I was unable to blink for the entire episode because you crammed 8 episodes into one. And believe it or not, I'm actually grateful you did that. Get over it, already.

Good bye Show.

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This drama IS indeed the worst ever K-drama I've ever seen. When I saw the 1st two episodes, I thought it was very different to the JP version. I was already very touched and drawn to the JP version from the beginning. Every time I watched the K ver, I hoped it will get better but it never ever did. I never ever shed a tear for the K version and I cried a river for the JP version.

And yes, I admire your patience and persistant to finish recapping the whole 22 episodes. It must be very difficult for you. I find myself just playing the video & let it run to the end, for the sake of well, SSH and also wanting to know how they'll end the story.

It's very very disappointing and I don't know how one can direct and write such a badly scripted drama. I don't think the audiences should blame it all on the actors/actresses. I can see the fault lies in the script and the constant miscontradiction of what the characters have said in the whole drama. Is there like more than one script writers for this drama? (forgive me since I don't know Korean and I could not be arsed to google who the script writers are in case I couldn't restrain myself from sending them some sort of biohazardous bomb to end their life for ruining such a surposedly good story)

If, and just if the script were written better and that the characters were more well-developed and thought through, I am very sure everyone including SSH would have done a good job. He did well in My Princess for god sake's and that I must say the storyline was kinda crappy too but at least the characters were fun to play!

And like everyone else...what the hell is the script writer thinking by killing off KT? Seriously! Jaejoong has the most PITIFUL character in Dr. Jin. What the hell is his purpose in this drama??? What significant role does he really play in the history? OH MY GOD. Did the script writers even watched the JP version or read the comic books? All the characters in JP drama played such an important role around Jin, all of them left such a strong lasting impression on the audiences (especially Dr. Ogata). The whole time I was waiting for them to put someone equivalent to Dr. Ogata in the drama that will take my breath away for the sacrifices he made for medicine but it never happened so I can only assume there is no such person in Joseon history. What the heck is Chun Hong's purpose? Young-Rae supposed to be Saki in JP version but what the hell did she do in the whole 22 ep? Saki was the most important role in Jin's life in edo period, she was his mental support, his assistant, his friend, his family and in the end his lover!!! All Young Rae does is let Hyuk worries about her and her supposedly encouragement to Hyuk did not really sound so convincing at all. She learns absolutely NOTHING from Hyuk in terms of medicine because all she does in the drama is cry, whine, do STUPID things and get herself hurt many many times so that Hyuk can see her naked body! Hahahaha! Sorry...can't help the sarcasm...

MICE was very right about the JP ver. of Jin always constantly questioning himself whether he should save the people and change history. But he found out that (as how it was played out) even though at first he might have saved someone who was supposed to die, in the end that person will still die because fate will reset the history he changed. However, he did change history a little because Miki is no longer the same Miki in the future he returned to. They were no longer lovers, she doesn't know him and he loves Saki. And of course...K-drama was completely different and the ending is STUPID. My condolescence is to the actors...f*** if I were them I'd wanna just quit the drama entirely instead of going through to the end. I wouldn't want such a bad drama under my filmography! ~"~

Another stupid thing I could not stop thinking is how in the world that Hyuk can still look so healthy with a tumour in his brain? Where is the medical supervisor for this drama? Obviously there is none! And yeah, what's with the bandage around his head and wow, the technology is so advance that you can keep your hair now when you go through an intensive brain surgery. And wow you can walk around and even run around the hospital after 4 days of the surgery????!!!

HONESTLY script writer!!! Whoever let the script passes through should be shot. I'm sorry about the ranting but damn it...I sat through the whole 22 episodes of poo crap, so I think I'm allowed to rant about how shit this drama has been made. I feel sorry for the original author of Dr JIN.

Word of advice for SSH...STOP acting in MBC's drama!!! Go to SBS for a change.
I'm glad for now I am still enjoying FAITH, although I am deeply scarred by Dr. JIN.
But I'm sure Lee Min-ho can carry me through to the end and somehow I've more "faith" in SBS than MBC.

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The best thing that ever come from this show is your recap, Heads. You, lady, who has the power to endure such painful journey by watching it then turn it over into such entertaining recap and garner lots of loyal audience here (to your recap not the show). Bravo Heads, and thank you!

*pop* open a bottle of champagne for you to mark the end of your suffering and the beginning of better era of dramas. Cheers! Kombe! ^^

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Heads, I know you are busy but just wanted to say I'm looking forward for your next movie review.

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Gosh this Series made me mad. I'm so in Love with The wonderful j-Drama version and than they had to do this one. The Script changes they made were all bad and made no sense at all.

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im curious as to why they didnt go into more detail of JIN as a kid.... in the past.... how was it that the the adult and child version were able to exist in the same time period.... that part confused the heck outa me..

and yea i got through all the episodes.. there were soo many potential story lines that could have been executed well... but instead it was thrown all over the place causing a whirl wind of back lash........... =( and yes i think my most fav part of the drama was the kyung tak and yong hwi scene...that should have lasted more than a few seconds.......... =( i literally almost cried..

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“The future of Joseon is in your hands, Doctor Jin.” (That is the worst possible place it could be.
Just think if they had made this the tag line on the promotional material - how much trouble would that have saved the audience? :D
I didn't watch this show (as I among many have sanely chosen to abstain) but thank you so much for your wonderful and witty recaps - they were literally the best part of this show.

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I ended giving up on "Dr. Jin" - even the unintentional humor, along w/ the acting of Lee Beom soo and Lee So yeon, weren't enough to hold my interest, tho I probably lasted longer than I should have.

I'll probably get around to finishing reading the recaps, but frankly I'm a bit surprised that HN2 finished recapping what was a wreck of a show, esp. when there were other shows much more deserving of the recap treatment (but still, thanks HN2).

Basically what I got out this show were 3 things,

1. SSH is a baaad actor.

The only other thing I had seen SSH in was "My Princess" - where I thought he did a pretty decent job (granted, his role didn't require much; SSH just had to act suave and charming whereas KTH was the one tasked w/ the emotional scenes), prior to that, I had only heard of his poor acting, and "Dr. Jin" confirmed it for me.

Granted, the craptastic script didn't help (as well as a crappy PD), but Lee Beom soo, Lee So yeon and much of the rest of the seasoned cast still performed ably despite the shoddy material that they had to work with.

2. Don't get the deal with Park Min Young.

This is the 1st time seeing Park Min Young in anything and can't quite understand why she is as big of a star as she is.

Didn't impress me w/ her acting in either the Joseon or modern times; and let's just say that her face looks a bit weird when she tries to emote.

3. Jaejoong fans are loony and a bit scary.

Jaejoong started off shaky but he did improve as time went on, but to think that his acting was topnotch? lol

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Despite SSH's shortcomings as an actor, at least he had the good sense to realize that drumming up the romance angle w/ his fiance's Joseon doppleganger was a mistake.

Based on his interview, he seemed pretty upset w/ that and I wonder if he would have taken this role if he had known that was going to be the case.

Still don't get the reasons for all the warnings about Dr. Jin saving people and changing history (not that he listened) b/c history still went merrily on its way despite Dr. Jin's best attempts to change it (that is, unless things changed since I stopped watching).

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Yes you did.

"3. Jaejoong fans are loony and a bit scary"
You didn't write "SOME Jaejoong fans" or "there are Jaejoong fans who are scary".

Learning to express yourself correctly wouldn't kill you.

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Let me guess. You read SSH's interview and are regurgitating everything you read in the comments section. Typical. As a JJ fan I NEVER thought he was the best actor ever because he is still learning hence why he takes supporting roles and this is his second Korean drama so where you are getting all this"hype" I don't know. Maybe you visit websites where all the people are rabid fans or maybe you are just copying 90% of the comments you read (which I strongly suspect is the case) but either way I'll spell it out for you: The fellow JJ fans that I PERSONALLY know agree that he has improved but that he still has a long way to go and that Dr. Jin was a joke.

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Did I say ALL Jaejoong fans were like that?

If you're not one of them, then what's the problem?

People really need to chill on the sensitivity meter.

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Ok, you know what? It's getting annoying here. You already said in the "Song Seung-heon on acting, ratings, and Dr. Jin" topic these wonderful words:
"Btw, those Jaejoong fans are crazy (in more ways than one) – they actually think his acting was great in “Dr. Jin” (it did improve, but “great”?).
But then again, they actually think “Dr. Jin” is a really good sageuk."

And we did already answer to you about it, so it would be nice if you would go and read our answers and actually think over it a bit.

Yes, I know than fans can be excessive and spout nonsense about their idols, but all Jaejoong's fans are not like this, and being Jaejoong's fan does not mean we actually find the Dr Jin show good.

Jaejoong did some great job as a rookie actor so please let your anti-idol thingie aside and stop mocking his fans. I do believe he has potential to actually become a great actor, what's wrong with that? People think what they want, and nobody detains the holy truth. What's more, these fans you're talking about do not flood Dramabeans' comments, so if you wanna rant about them, go rant against them in some site where they do rage. I do believe that Dramabeans is a place to share some constructive or/and humorous comments, not a bashing place.

Also, how can you judge PMY's acting solely on Dr Jin when we all agreed that the problem here was the directing? To be fair, I'll tell you that I don't like her either. I saw her in Sungkyunkwan Scandal and while I liked her in the first part of the drama, her never-ending tears annoyed the Hell of me in the second part; it was the same here, I got really annoyed by Young-Rae's character. But I do feel that PMY simply needs to be directed carefully and play good characters, not cliched characters like Young-Rae. That was my feeling after seeing her as Kim Yoon Shik in SKK Scandal, and it's still what I am thinking despite having plain hated her during the whole Dr Jin serie.

Now I do hope you'll read our answers and think a little over it, that would be nice, thank you.

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Again, if you're not one of THOSE Jaejoong fans - then just take a chill pill.

As for PMY, I'm basing her on just what I have seen and despite the cruddy script, Lee Beom soo, Lee Seo yeon, Jin Yi han, Lee Won jong and most of the rest of the cast were able to turn out pretty decent performances.

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The problem isn't really WHAT you're saying, it is HOW you say it that can lead people to misunderstand you. You answered to Michelle "Did I say ALL Jaejoong fans were like that?", and well, even if it wasn't your intention, it IS basically what you've said.
If you're talking about some fans, and not all fans, then please don't use generalities like "Jaejoong fans are loony and a bit scary...", "Those Jaejoong fans are crazy...they actually think...", because you know, grammatically speaking, these sentences do mean you're talking about all fans. Because these are generalities. And because these were harsh words ("crazy" isn't exactly kind), people are more inclined to get hurt. If you don't want people to misunderstand you, please change the way you write. You could have said "There are Jaejoong fans who are crazy, those actually think..."

As for PMY, I actually agree with you, I can't understand why she's just a big star, but I still think I should watch more of her acting before judging her. You said that the rest of the cast were able to turn out pretty decent performances, and that's true, but do you know why? Because most of them were male characters. PMY's character was probably, with Hyuk, one of the worst character of the show, and mostly because she was a female character which was reduced to the cliched theme of I-am-in-love-with-the-hero-but-as-I-am-a-sweet-girl-I-will-sacrifice-myself-for-him-thus-I-will-cry-all-the-time. I don't think anyone here could have pulled off that role successfully.

Anyway, I am not telling all this to start a war or whatever; just please be careful with what you say because it is very easy to be misunderstood when posting critical comments. It is something that happened to me as well, so I wouldn't want that to happen to you as well.

Well then, have a nice day. And take a chill pill too.

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Thank you. I find that many people make their comments and then try to make it seem like "that isn't what I meant" and that somehow people should know what they mean to say.

I also completely agree about PMY but part of it is her fault because she keeps picking these kinds of Mary-Sue characters. I don't know if her agency pushes her to do it but if she were to challenge herself under the guidance of senior actors and a competent director I think she could surprise us.

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....At Hyuk’s shocked face, Kyung-tak deadpans, “What? Are you going to perform surgery on him or something?” ....
hahahahahaha!!
just for this line KKT wins the award !!

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Thanks, Heads. You are awesome.

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