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You’re the Best, Lee Soon-shin: Episodes 29-30 [Open Thread]

There’s actual watchable goodness this week! If you’re trying to watch this show strategically, my recommendation is to watch the first 25 minutes of Episode 30. They’re thoroughly worth it. And then you can resume your usual fast-forward (or skipping) routine.

(Given the recent pattern of makjang and angst, I’m amazed that there’s as much as 25 honest-to-goodness minutes of squeal-worthy cuteness between these two episodes. It’s definitely our upper limit for all the episodes in recent memory.)

The rest, sadly, is more of the same.

 

 
The gist:

Mi-ryung is still on her rampage of I’m a good mother, I swears, because I’m taking charge now after twenty years of negligence, and has lined up a movie to act in alongside Soon-shin. Trouble is, Soon-shin is still in her denial stage and doesn’t want to act despite everybody and their mother (which includes her mother) recognizing that she’s happiest acting. They push her to not let this opportunity slip by, but she hears it through defensive ears and thinks her mother is trying to get rid of her because she’s the lovechild. She freaks out and storms out. Everyone’s miserable.

Mi-ryung assumes that Soon-shin is declining the movie because her adopted mother opposes it, and despite being told that that’s not true, she runs with that explanation. Unsurprisingly the press gets wind of it, and popular opinion becomes that Mom is holding Soon-shin back from a career and happiness and unicorns and rainbows. So Mom does the Bad Cop thing of telling Soon-shin to go ahead and move in with her birth mother and accept all that she has to give her, and agrees when Soon-shin asks if she’s kicking her out. It’s sorta nobly idiotic, only I have no goodwill left for Mom to concede to the noble part of that equation. It’s well-intentioned and obvious, and necessary for our My Two Moms story to keep going, I suppose.

So Soon-shin goes to Mi-ryung, looking like all the life has been sucked out of her soul, and agrees to move in and resume acting and accept whatever Mi-ryung has to send her way. Mi-ryung is thrilled. Soon-shin looks like a zombie.

Other sisters: Hye-shin’s flirtation with Bread Man continues, and Woo-joo hates it. Chicken Ajumma realizes there’s something going on between Chan-woo and Yoo-shin, but she consoles herself with the fact that they’re broken up and urges Yi-jung to keep at it, because lord knows that girl needs any encouragement. Yoo-shin is unhappy without him, and makes a drunken sorta-acceptance of his proposal. Sorta.

 
Highlights:

As Hye-shin tutors Bread Man, she gets a call from her viper of a mother-in-law that puts her in a dark mood. Bread Man insists on playing hooky today (because she was the model student who never played hooky), and takes her to the batting cage. It’s cute because while it’s a rather trite date venue, here it’s another instance of Bread Man urging Hye-shin to work out her frustrations when she would choose to bottle them up. (Too bad Woo-joo hates this and cries and orders her mom to stop hanging out with Bread Man, though you can understand why, now that the whole neighborhood is mocking her for her adulteratin’ grandpa and cheatin’ daddy. She doesn’t want her mother in the same category.)

Young-hoon invites Soon-shin to an MT with the restaurant family (MT = membership training, but really just an excuse to go on a retreat and drink and bond). She ends up going, and Young-hoon totally has fun pushing Jun-ho’s buttons by saying that they’re together and going to spend the night away. HA.

So Jun-ho follows them to the campsite with the really lame excuse that he’s here on business, but I don’t care because this leads him to play guitar and sing. (I would have ripped the mp3 but there’s talking through it. Just watch the beginning of Episode 30.) He puffs up adorably because Soon-shin is there, and when she leaves mid-song, he noticeably deflates and finishes in lackluster manner. JUST ADMIT YOU LIKE HER.

Jun-ho pushes her to admit she wants to act, and finally she does, but she also says that she can’t pursue acting while leaving her family behind and in the lurch. Thus if she does act, it’ll be on her terms.

Jun-ho finds out that she left early that morning and totally follows her to the train station. He insists on letting the employee take a couple photo of them (all, If you INSIST….) and then when she falls asleep, he shades her from the sun with his hands. She nods off on his shoulder, and he is SO happy about it.

Then he purposely gets off on the wrong stop, dragging Soon-shin along, and makes up the lame excuse that it was because, uh, scenery? Pictures? Soon-shin wonders why he’s being so nice to her—is it out of guilt? Or because she’s that pathetic?

Jun-ho says no: “Looking at you is like looking at the past me.” He admits he was happy singing but gave that up, and cautions her against running as he did. He shocks her by telling her she’s pretty: “So have confidence, because you’re plenty beautiful. At least in my eyes.”

I actually liked Yoo-shin’s roundabout acceptance of Chan-woo’s proposal, which is done in her typically gruff way. But it feels honest, and maybe that’s why I respond to it. She’s drinking and miserable, and at first thinks that he’s a hallucination when he appears in front of her. Then as she starts to cry, she tells him she won’t make him breakfast every morning and she’ll give her paycheck to her mother (assuming they marry), and wails, “Why did you have to be ajumma’s son?” Honey, we’re all wondering that.

 
Lowlights:

There are actually still more lowlights than highlights, but I think I was appeased by the amount of Jun-ho and Soon-shin we got. The lowlights are really more of the same old same old:

Mi-ryung remains insane about how she’s just trying to be a good mother, but continues to do everything her way, without consulting with anybody.

Mom playing noble idiot. Meh. I don’t really care that she’s urging Soon-shin to follow her dream now, after she was SO SO SO vociferous about blocking her path earlier.

Soon-shin acting out of guilt for her mother more than recognizing that anything anybody says is sensible and true.

Yi-jung moaning and groaning that Chan-woo doesn’t like her. He tells her firmly that if she keeps seeking him out at the clinic he’ll change jobs, and her reaction is to cry about it instead of, you know, recognizing that he has a point.

There’s a weird beat where Yeon-ah pays a visit to the Shin ladies, and they commiserate (in their passive-aggressive condescending way) about Mi-ryung’s news being hard on her. Yeon-ah asks Jun-ho’s mother to take cooking classes together, and Jun-ho’s mother is happy to agree. If she’s doing it because she wants to weasel her way in with Jun-ho’s family, that’s one thing. But to me it smacks of ditching one mother figure for another. Which is sad, really.

Mi-ryung gets huffy about Soon-shin declining the movie and legit asks her, in full seriousness, “Why do you hate me so much?” Facepalm moment if ever there was one.

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I'm sorry to say I just can't watch this train wreck any longer. It was billed as a rom com and it's just far too makjang for me to enjoy anymore -_-

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My routine is normally skippppppppppppppp, aww that's cute, omg are we back to this, why is she so annoying, ugh skipppppppp, I should slap you, wtf that's the end for this week... where's my cute?!?!?!?

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Hello Pabo :-)
I love your routine, and your question at the end :-). How is that routine working for you? Is it... (working for you)?

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lol it's working much better than if i had to recapped the show that's for sure. i completely understand jb's decision to drop it. from the beginning i was already skipping around and only watching the other stuff enough to get the gist of things. now if someone cut and uploaded only the cute parts, i would be golden :D

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I guess that's why they had a Uee-Joo won cut for Ojaggyo? You can with Yoo shin and Hye shin but Soon Shin's relationship with anyone has been on the backburner for really long. Any interaction she has with President Shin is based on the boring makjang, so it's hard to cut soon shin's cute out.

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I'm struggling to watch and am very tempted to miss the next 5-10 episodes (even the skip-watchign) in hope that it will pick up again then.

1) DO NOT LIKE Soon Shin going to Miryung. That woman needs to be cut out of her life. How can she even think of living with her? I'd go insane. MR is delusional and so, so selfish. MR needs to fall really, really low because she truly believes she does nothing wrong ever when in fact one second she's as cruel as can be, and the next she flashes the sweetest smile because things are going her way. There is NOTHING that can redeem that woman for me in the 20 episodes that are left, she has shown herself to be toxic in every day. I don't understand why people don't run far from her... whether it's Soon Shin, Junho, Yeonah or whoever.

2) I don't feel sorry for Yeonah because she's not a nice person either, but she should be smart enough to realise that MR has treated her terribly too (liked her when it suited her, dropped her when she could replace her with her "real" daughter). She should cut her losses – because when MR decides she wants Yeonah back in her life, she should realise that you can't treat people like commodities. Relationships are built on mutual caring. Note for Yeonha: Joonho's mom is a terrible substitute mom as well.

3) I'm getting a little tired of Woojo's hissy fits. It was cute in the beginning, but I'm beginning to feel that her mom isn't parenting her very well. Yes, Woojo has a lot of emotional pain to deal with, but that's not a permission card to be constantly rude to a person that's being nice. Little kids also don't get to run their parents' love life. Of course, they should come first, but the oldest sister needs to start being proactive, by helping Woojo deal with her pain, resolving whatever needs to be resolved with her ex-husband and moving on with her life.

4) Chanwoo – please quit your job and move out of your house, or something. I don't want to see more Yijung and of Mom meddling.... it's a boring storyline. Chanwoo needs to act, and stop being good Mommy's son. Take charge of your life because that's the only way you'll get a happy ever after with your girl.

5) Lee Soon Shin's mom.... *sigh* I can't be bothered to comment on this even...

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The only thing I disagree with is the Soon-shin going to Mi-ryung thing. We all know everyone would be better off if she got hit by a truck or something, but since that's not going to happen she's still there and annoying and has to be dealt with. By now, I'm just so SICK AND TIRED of the Mi-ryung-chasing-after-Soon-shin thing that ANY change there is welcome. Even if it means Soon-shin is going to live with Mi-ryung for a while, at least this could prove that NO this is NOT a MOM-COMPETITION and NO she can not make Soon-shin happier because she's an awful person.

I don't know. We might even get a flash-forward now with Soon-shin having gone to the Dark Side, and the rest of the drama is to Bring Her Back. Or something.

Honestly, anything is better than having her running away all the time with a delusional woman chasing after her.

But... I agree with the rest~

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I guess it gets the plot moving... but I just have problems with it. You don't go live with someone who is essentially a stranger (even if they are related by blood) and who has treated you pretty shittily.

There's no guarantee of anything – I mean, in real life, I'd feel like that's sealing your fate. Miryung could just continue to be deluded and think that she's doing wonderful things, being the best mom ever and that if Lee Soon Shin isn't happy, she'll just chalk it up to her being ungrateful and not knowing what's good for her. Meanwhile, SS is going to create distance between herself and her actual family.

I'm worried we'll get a storyline where SS living with Miryung is going to make her feel sorry / feel sympathy for Miryung (possibly with an illness thrown in – remember, she's been drinking and popping pills), but it isn't her that should be empathising with Miryung at this point, it's Miryung who needs to start realising that it's not just her feelings that matter.

It should be possible to stop a delusional woman (or ANYONE) chasing after you, even if it's with a stalking order – if it's not, then I think we're screwed.

Also, I would have just so much preferred for SS to start making it as an actress on her own, not as "Miryung's daughter".

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I agree that there's probably better ways to solve the Mi-ryung problem. But since this puts an effective end to the otherwise endless stalking, I'll take it.

And I wish Soon-shin got to make it on her own before this whole Mi-ryung thing anyway, but now their names have been linked by the media, I don't think that could happen. Unless she moved abroad or something. The thing is, even before that, she was kindof being pushed by Jun-ho as well, rather than doing it with her own abilities, so that wasn't really a better alternative.

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Well, being pushed by Junho was quite different IMO. With Miryung, she's riding on Miryung's fame and name, i.e. people being interested in her primarily (and, sadly, in some cases, only) because she is related to Miryung. With Junho, some people may respect his choices as CEO picking potential stars and be interested in her for that, but mostly it would have been so much more based on her talent.

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That would need some decent writing and we don't get it in this drama

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"Honestly, anything is better than having her running away all the time with a delusional woman chasing after her."

LOL, hilarious! Yes indeed that woman is delusional, not just the hour-of-therapy type but the straight-jacket-and-padded-cell one. I at first assumed she was just a bit off her rocker but as the show progressed I realized she is a full tilt wacko. Perhaps I may be exagerrating a wee-bit but unless she levels her self and realizes her serious denial issues, I'm calling the men in white for that diva! hehe

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Speaking of Woo-joo... I can't stand her scenes even though she's a kid. All her temper tantrums has got to stop. Such a rude brat, shouting and screaming at her mum all the time.

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Absolutely. mom is too tolerant of her bad behavior but that is in keeping with her mostly passive nature

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Agreed 100%. I don't understand why no one has truly put MR in her place, not even Jun-Ho, especially when he can clearly see that MR is just using MR.

Also pissed that LSS has yet to speak for herself. She's just a lost sheep and everybody gets to do whatever the hell they want, without asking her. But she also doesn't speak up for herself at all! It's so frustrating to watch. From the moment she was forced to do her first TV interview with her "new Mom", she has just let herself be used. I'm starting to not care about her anymore.

Truly, the best part was JH and LSS on their little train ride.

ChanWoo's mom needs to jump off a bridge. I can't believe what a trifflin' ghetto harpie she is. Always screeching at everything and everyone.

WooJoo needs a spanking. Like now. I understand being upset about her parents and being teased, but there is no way in hell that little girl should be allowed to speak to an adult the way she does.

This series could have been neatly tied up in 24 episodes, if they just left out 60% of the useless angst. We get 10 solid minutes of plot development and the rest spent in a timesuck of useless feelings and reactions.

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Totally agree with your #3. I first saw this girl while she was much younger in the drama, "Invincible Lee Pyung Kang. She had much more script and she was really good As young as she was. Her script only has her as a bratty Hissy fit, Short outburst. Doubt if this will give her anymore Future cast roles, Surprisingly terrible. #4, I actually like Yi jung, She's a funny brat aching for attention. She's the only One keeping me going in this drama. 50 episodes is much Too long, It is getting boring and the screenwriters have Nothing to fill for the actors except Grief!

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I think that train wreck is an understatement. I am still not sure how a plot idea that could have been decent got so far off the rails into the Makjang Swamp.

Aside from the stupid selfish screaming moms and grannys, I just don't see how so many people could consciously make SO many bad decisions and not get caught by Darwin's rules of survival.

But above all, I think the single biggest turnoff for me in this whole series is the totally idiotic guilt driven(?) passive behavior of Soon-Shin who just caves into anyone that yells at her, no matter how bad the reason is. To say that she is in denial is being very kind - she is just a freeking idiot.

At this point the only reason I watched even the 15 min (of 124) is to come up with more points to rant about. Previously, I considered "Feast of the Gods" the worst ever, but it has moved up a notch to 2nd worst.

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I'm still waiting for Ep 30 with subs so I still have to wait for the couple moments...

Can't we just shoot Mi Ryung (SO delusional), Chicken Ajumma, Yi Jung and all the other really annoying caracters and just have Soon-Shin and Jun-Ho moments with some interference from Young-Hoon (because I LOVE it how he makes Jun-Ho jealous^^) and bread man, Hye-Shin and Woo-Joo?

I am still watching every single second of this drama because I really don't like giving up on dramas once I am half way through (well BOF is an exception but there I just couldn't stand the music anymore :P) but this one is testing me...

But I will tune in again next week^^ and for episode 30 of course

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Almost PAAAAAAAARADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE~

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Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

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That was just mean. Funny, but mean:)

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I'm sorry =(
But I really couldn't help myself =)

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xD seriously this song sends shivers down my spine whenever I hear it^^ So overused in the drama :P Which I don't get... I mean other dramas manage to have an amazing OST without the songs being a pain in the ass :D

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Can’t we just shoot Mi Ryung (SO delusional), Chicken Ajumma, Yi Jung and all the other really annoying caracters and just have Soon-Shin and Jun-Ho moments with some interference from Young-Hoon (because I LOVE it how he makes Jun-Ho jealous^^) and bread man, Hye-Shin and Woo-Joo?

That would be so lovely, wouldn't it? Alas, too lovely to actually happen. :( I could do with a minimum of snits from Woo-Joo. That would be nice.

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I really want the next episode to be Grandma, Chicken Ajumma, Mi Ryong and Yi Jung all randomly getting locked in a room. Forever.

After a while of Grandma and chicken lady scolding everyone and each other and telling everyone about their epic sons, Mi Ryong goes off about how great she is and how no one appreciates her. Finally, Yi Jung complains about how mean everyone is to her.

Instead of a whole episode of stupidity, we have a five minute check up each episode on whether they are all still alive and then we get on with, you know, something interesting.

Seriosuly, why aren't I writing this?

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I never had the energy or time to actually watch this show, but I always read the recaps, but I found that I lacked the energy to even read those, this show was getting so bad. So I'm really psyched about these OT's and weecaps that have been posted recently, as it takes five minutes to read, total. It makes my Sundays!!

Thanks, Javabeans!!

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I'm so gonna watch the first 25 minutes of episode 30. I wanna knock off now and zoom home to watch! Thanks javabeans!

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Yay, Bread man had much more screen time this week! The batting cage scene was cute. While I think him and Hye-shin are cute together, I'm looking forward to him winning over Woo-joo. I love seeing them together.

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Haha, I loved the bit where he was talking to Hye-shin:

"Does your sister run away from home a lot? Because I used to do that as well. She'll come back when she's hungry. It's fine, as long as she doesn't do anything that could land her in jail."

".. What?"

"....Um... errr... Nothing... Eh... Do you want to eat bread?!!!"

We're sorta kinda getting tiny bits of his backstory, which is nice.

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Well agree with Breadman+Hyesin getting cuter together. Her little cranky daughter Woo-joo is a tough nut to crack. Might take a very big incident, e.g. saving her life that will change her mind about Breadguy.

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The part when Jun-ho had the guitar and at first he wasn't going to sing and then Young-hoon takes it from him for a minute (to goad him into playing) in my head I was shouting 'SING OFF, SING OFF!'. Because that would have been all kinds of awesome.

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Yeah, that would've been great. Young-hoon is good at prodding Jun-ho without him realizing what's going on. Thankfully, Young-hoon only uses his powers for good. ;)

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YAY for some goodness!! I tried watching through ep 29 yesterday and after fast clicking the highlights to see Junho's #XX?! FORLORN STARE at Soonshin crying into another guy's arms, I closed the page.

Very cheered that there is good things to see in ep 30... and really hope things will pick up now... Its all getting really repetitive and boring...

Thanks for still posting the Open thread with screenshots dear javabeans! ♥♥♥

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Well, I thought that hug was okay. It would have been pretty inhumane to stand there and let Soonshin cry. Yeah, not nice for Junho to see but even he should understand that a person that is deeply upset deserves to be comforted. No one took advantage of her being upset, it was a hug to make her feel better.

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I'm curious whether young-hoon habors romantic feeling for soonshin or just being protective of her coz they are both adopted.

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I'm not sure. Either he harbours romantic feelings OR he is pushing Junho's buttons to get him to make a move (the guitar thing seemed like the latter).

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Oh my goodness yes,it's totally watchable this week.All couples moved ahead in the lovelines .I have no idea why we still have so much attention paid to the MR story.Is it because the older actresses are like important? Because they are totally boring.And appear totally heartless and self -centred.

Let me reserve a moment to gush about JJS' acting. He is so good wt minute gestures.This Isaac guy who was totally rapt with happiness at being in SS' company after so many days being shoved aside. The scene where his whole body and face became so dejected after she walked away? Masterful acting.

Loving it. I was in this total state of happiness for the first half of ep 30.

IU can act really expressively but it would be even better if whoever is coaching for acting teaches her to portray it throughout. She always has this straight posture even though her face shows a crying or devastated expression.

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this. everytime i noticed scenes like that I just wanted to gush about JJS's amazingness LOL

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I totally agree with you, JJS is doing a great job portraying the sweet and dorky CEO in love, he was basically exercising the muscles of his face during the the first 25 minutes of episode 30 showing so many different expressions, and most of them only to express happiness. This episode I actually only skipped the conversations between the ajummas (any ajummas), and anything related to the chicken lady... so, good episodes this week overall.

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Hello ck1Oz, what did you mean here please, "This Isaac guy?"

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I think she meant to sat "This is a guy..."
Typo

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Yeah sorry was on the phone. Too lazy to correct it.

I am a really happy fan to discover JJS. He makes his character so much more memorable and lovable. Normally I don't ship or go all giggly when a male lead falls in love.

He has admitted he likes SS hasn't he? I don't think so right?

Actually all 3 guys marrying into the family are pretty darn cool.

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come to think of it, when junho told soon shin she's pretty in his eyes, she's kinda fidget with the mirror handle in bewilderment . that is the first time i noticed iu's body acting.

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I'll have to skip around to watch for the other two couples but you're spot on about JJS.
Honestly though, I'd watch him romance a tree if that's what it took to see more of him onscreen. He's like the brightest gem on this show.

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I'll join you in the gushing.

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Me three. I'm in love.

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I used to love watching this show (and rewatching) because it was full of so much goodness, but just reading these highs and lows is getting draggy. I don't even know if the cute is enough for me to tune in anymore. I actually skipped my weekend fast forward of these two episodes this week. I still want to see where the characters are headed and how everything will end, but how to do it without watching the show and super scanning through these open threads? Ha. (I really do appreciate these posts though!) I think I will go watch Jo Jungseok serenade Soonshin (and me) though. Hahaha.

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Still have to watch the episodes....

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Me, too. I'm finding it's taking longer for the episodes to be fully subbed. No surprise there. It has to be hard to stick with a lackluster project.

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Probably because the translators are as tired of the stupid antics as the rest of us are :)

And they don't have the luxury of being able to fast-forward...

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Hmm... it's only Tuesday and they are both subbed on gooddrama and dramacrazy. Pretty fast, I'd say.

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i'm with you on this one chickletta, the subs have come pretty fast lately.

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I'd be a million times happier about this show if we just focused on the 3 daughters' relationships and leave all the makjang behind. Who cares about the mothers, godamnit?!

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THIS.

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Hmm...Soon Shin was in total zombie mode...ugh...this two Moms drama. Why does no one have sympathy for the Mom that raised her (though she was very annoying too)

Chanwoo said he would change hospitals...what will it take to get through to Yi Jung?

Yoon shin having to be drunk to admit she can't get over him was funny to me but at least he clearly knows she loves him too

And then Chanwoo is all, "I've followed you for 20 years...I'm not letting you get away." Damn when you put it that way...though he has been very clear on his position and strategy since the first confession.

She was all I won't cook breakfast and I'm giving my paycheck to Mom...and then crying about him being ahjumma's son and a good son LOL

I'm sure she'll deny all this once she sobers up but he's got her now.

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Haha, Chan-woo's stalking would be creepy if we didn't know that it came from such a nice guy. I mean, he's been non-pushy and sweet for twenty years. They've been FRIENDS for twenty years. And Yoo-shin is someone who NEEDS pushing to get her to admit what she feels.

I still kindof made a parallel with Yijung though. But the difference is that Chanwoo is rejecting her reasonably - they barely know eachother. And Yooshin is just known for never meaning what she says.

So it's cute that he's finally got her now. Can they just elope and run far far far away from the chicken shop?

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Yijung's storyline is the most pointless in this drama.

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Yay, thanks for the mini recap!!! I like this. I still get to know what's happening, but I don't have to put any effort into it. I'll wait for the subs to get my cute in episode 30. I refuse to actually watch it until Mi Ryung gets kicked the behind and she realizes how much of a al;kdjsf;lasjd; she's been.

One day, I hope someone will put together all the bread ajusshi scenes. I want to watch them, but I'm not even going to put in the effort to fastforward to find them.

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Okay, I seriously have to catch up on watching this, now, if only to get to see all the Jun-ho/Soon-shin moments. Still sticking with this show, no matter what!

Thanks for the weecap, JB!

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Jo Jung Suk is such a good actor. They finally give him a chance to do sth besides standing there and staring miserably at LSS, and he does so much with it! He is abt 6 years old when he first refuses to sing, but then when the competition starts to, he stands up to rip the guitar off his hands. The scene where he shields SS's face fr the sun, where she falls asleep on his shoulder, his changing feelings of joy and deep satisfaction are expressed w a mere movement of the corner of his mouth. I can watch him act all day. Those big eyes! Why cast such a good actor and leave him in the shadows?

I always wonder if Korean parents are as awful as they r depicted in KD after KD. Don't they know that they need to give their grown children some small amt of space? Poor SS needs some time to process what has just been revealed to her. Why can't her mothers leave her alone for a while? Of course the sense of that would be totally lost on the nuthouse ready MR!

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JB it's like you're reading my mind. I stopped watching this show the same week you stopped recapping for the same reason. I even thought recapping this bs would totally suck for you so I'm glad you're doing this format.

There's so much drudgery in this drama I'm just exasperated and more than a little bitter that they lured us in with promises of cute Jun ho and Soon shin moments and literally gave us nothing.

Even the 25 minutes of cute they gave us kinda falls flat on me because the plot has been so static. Like Ep 30 and you STILL don't have your main OTP together??

At this rate I don't foresee an OTP til like ep 50...
Or is that being optimistic??

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I really love this open thread thing, so I thought to say so after lurking on DB for so very long.
I am currently watching Ojakgyo Brothers and I realize why that one is so much more watchable - not everyone is having a bad time at the same time while LSS is just bad news, bad news, bad news.
The writers should really think how much angst viewers can take.

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Oh Ojakgyo Brothers. I keep telling myself that if I was able to go through all 58 episodes of that drama then surely I can do it with YTBLSS. But you're right, I was invested in everyone's storyline in that one but they also knew how to keep the cute coming. So with such a great premise, I don't know why they just can't manage to do it right with YTBLSS. If it were any other actors beside IU and JJS, I don't think I would have stuck it out this long so it's so disappointing that they're not milking the shit out of the best things about the show: IU and JJS. Two people that have so much talent yet they're doing them such a disservice by not giving them the amount of screentime they deserve or the variety of material to work with.

And yet, I still have faith that it will pick up. Please show, don't let me down!

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JB, as always you are totally spot on.

Feel a bit like a sucker but the 1st part of Ep. 30 gave me hope. Looks like the writer is sticking to their delivery of bitchiness and angst but is willing to chuck some tidbits our way. They're not great but hey, you have to take what you can get sometimes.

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Question, why does Chanwoo's mother hate Yoo shin? did they say it already and I just missed it?

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I think it's because they're both very strong-willed and Yoo-shin just doesn't fit Chan-woo's mom's mental image of the perfect mate for her precious baby boy.

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So they haven't really said it on the show, like a legitimate reason. Yeah that's what I was thinking too, but she never really answered Chanwoo when she asked her *sigh*

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I think she once said to Yoo-shin that Chan-woo's type is a "sweet and cute girl like Yi-jung". We all know Yoo-shin is anything but sweet and cute. And I think that's what got Yoo-shin totally angry and got her to talk about the proposal.

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Yoo Shin is very popular with guys, and ahjumma must have seen her walking home with guys, fighting with them, dropping them etc., so she doesn't think she is a "good girl". That's why she picks on YS for staying out late, wearing short skirts.

I don't know if she really thinks the other girl is sweet and cute, but she knows her as the daughter of her son's boss, i.e. she is loaded. I supposed that makes the girl the perfect mate for her precious boy.

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Yooshin is 'a bad girl." She's dated a lot of men and drank to the point of passing out - many times in the ajumma's chicken place. In one of the first episodes it was Chanwoo who piggybacked her home from his mother's chicken place after she blacked out. Ajumma has seen her like this a lot, so she thinks Yooshin is not good enough for her son. I can't really blame her. All she's ever seen of Yooshin is her angry drunk side (minus that failed attempt with the long skirt).

BTW, the ratings for "Soonshin" ep. 29 were 23.2%, and for ep30 up to 27.9%. Someone asked.

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Too strong-minded and independent. (And, admittedly had strings of boyfriends before that she just kind of played around with.)

Mommy wants a sweet girl that will do everything for her pervious baby, you know, like she does as a mom, and waits on him hand and foot.

Of course, she hasn't yet realised that Yijung is a bratty, spoiled princess that never lifts a finger for anyone.

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Wait up, hold up a second.. !!
That train ride, like, no. OK Hold up
I could have watched an hour of just them on the train, Actually I could watch an entire drama of them taking train rides anywhere.
Show, why don't you make this happen? Why you gotta be like that??

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It's official, the air in Seoul is filled with makjang, cause as soon as they get back to the city it's like a Jerry Springer special, and the only one not affected is Bread man ahjussi. I feel like throwing some chairs.. SMH

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"the air in Seoul is filled with making".... bwahahahaha!

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The air in Seoul is filled with smog and fog - and it's especially miserable today, raining cats and dogs. I wonder how Ep 31 and 32 2 will be shot in this doom and gloom. Miryung lives in my neighbourhood (it's a jewelry gallery that poses as her house).

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I actually liked (most) of this episode. Then again, I'm doing everything I can to procrastinate studying. Which includes watching weird mom-drama.

But seriously, my guess is that the main audience for this drama is ajumma's - which is why they take the spotlight.

But half an episode with cute! They doubled the usual dose!
And I'm just happy Jun-ho is smiling again. I mean that train scene *_* He was so excited and happy. And more than that, his character has a POINT again. Like, he's gone from a useless stalker to a nostalgic person who doesn't want Soon-shin to give up her dream. He has a REASON to be NICE to her and DO things other than the fact that he might-maybe-sortof-kinda-like-her. But I still don't understand why we didn't get to this point like twenty episodes ago.

Same goes for the other bits - I feel like we've been following Soon-shin like she's just turning around in circles and circles and circles and everyone's just stalking her and telling her what to do for THIRTY EPISODES

-It's like Soon-shin: Stop acting! (Mom) (NO!)
-Soon-shin! Go acting! (Mi Ryung) (NO!... maybe?)
-Soon-shin! Stop acting! (Everyone) (NO!)
-Soon-shin! Keep acting! (Jun-ho) (NO!)
-Soon-shin! I'm still your mom! (NO! - runs away from home-)
-Soon-shin! Keep acting! (Everyone) (NO!)
-Soon-shin! Go live with your real mom! (NO!)

... And finally she ends up living with Mi-ryung anyway and she's going to act anyway. Like, we know it would come to this, but I just don't feel satisfied getting here anymore.

I don't even know what I'm saying - I'm just so confused with this drama. It's like they WANT me to cringe with all the random ajumma-suffering and drama, but then they throw in the cute just so you'll keep watching more of the ajumma-suffering drama. All the angst ; ;

I don't know anymore. But I'll keep watching. I wonder if, now we're here, we can start to move on to more cute stuff? Like, less ajumma, more leads?

Also - yay for Yoo-shin and Chan-woo! I still kindof like this couple. They're the classic opposites-attract couple, but it works well here. Because Chan-woo somehow channels his inner angel and can see through to the Nice Parts Of Yoo-shin nobody, and I really mean nobody else can see.

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Thanks to DB I haven't heard either mom speak a word for about 20 episodes. I can't hate the parts of the drama I don't watch. ;)

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That shot of Young Hoon hugging Soon Shin is so pretty. Objectively so, because I'm a Jun Ho x Soon Shin shipper.

I've stopped watching for the last three weeks (since the birth secret came out). It's funny how we spent half the drama urging the birth secret to come out but are so obviously put off by the hamhanded makjangness thereafter. Hate both moms.

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PLSPLSPLSPLS CARRY ON DOING THE RECAP. I've been waiting wayyy too long for the junho soonshin part and now that it has begun, I'm sure it will only get better! ^ ^ thabks a lot for reopening this thread. I love all the lovelines in this show. Just wish the ajummas didn't exist. Sigh

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Sigh.

Not sure why people don't get it that

- dramas don't need to reflect reality
- people in dramas, like people in real life, don't always do good, to others or to themselves
- this is a family drama, not a 16 ups rom-com

I don't get it that
- people who don't watch the drama bother to read the recap
- people who don't watch the drama f---ing bother to comment

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I don't eat dirt, but I still feel qualified to say that it is probably not a good thing to eat dirt.

The general dislike for this drama has nothing to do with how well it fits reality (almost no drama, Korean or otherwise does) - it has a lot to do with being totally inconsistent in the plot, too much screaming, and a lot of people doing stupid things for no good reason at all EVERY SINGLE TIME.

I would not call it a "family" drama.

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"- people in dramas, like people in real life, don’t always do good, to others or to themselves"

Yes, and I have no objection to that BUT in real life karma bites them in the a** at some point or people remove themselves from the lives of those that do bad. Yes, sometimes it takes time for people to get away from bad people (e.g. abusive relationships), but no one in this show seems to be dropping Miryung. They all still engage with her and bow to her demands, and not necessarily for logical reasons, e.g. Soon Shin going to live with her... it doesn't make sense. There's no way that's going to give her family peace, quite the contrary.

Dunno, for me there's just too many people that are doing bad to others, without any tangible repercussions/reactions to challenge that.

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i totally agree with you on these points!

for one, people mistake this for a rom-com when its not. It's clearly a family drama--the schedule its being aired is already a dead give-away.

i guess the reason for this is most DB audience didn't pick up this drama for the senior cast, but rather for the younger ones. but we have to remember that we are not the target audience for this show. The ratings proves this. When the cute was the main focus of the show, ratings were low, but as soon as the angst started to climax, the ratings reached the 30% mark.

Also, dramas are made to depict a rather condensed form of reality, so the angst will be heavier and a bit sensationalized that way when karma or redemption comes, a wide contrast is felt.

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Well, DB tends to preach to the choir. I never bother to bring up "the other side" if there are more than 200 comments.

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My whole family ( my mom, aunts, sis and I) is watching this drama and none of us feel as annoyed as most here!! Maybe expectations are different. As someone pointed out here, we signed up for a family drama and for me,thata means more about family interactions and conflicts and hopefully eventual resolution than romance comedy. So, I am not too terribly upset that the romance is doled out in such small measures. I like the cute as much as everyone else and look forward to more of that but it doesn't bother me that its been so much of the birth secret and how it affects them all.

I think that the characters ( apart from the time the mom went cruel on soon shin) have been consistent in their behavior and actions. The selfish and annoying ones continue to be selfish and annoying. Chan woo continues to be steady and firm in his love wihtout being disrespectful to his mom. Fully in keeping with his character so far.

As for whether families like this really exist, well I don't know about the west but in Asian culture, it certainly does esp amongst the more traditional families.

Well, those are my thoughts. Don't hate on me!

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i am totally with you on this. I'm asian as well so I guess that's the reason I can actually relate to most decisions that each character has come up with. Also, while people have been complaining non-stop about the plot twist and character's supposed stubborness, I am actually quite happy with it coz in reality people don't change overnight, so I really appreciate how everyone is being consistent with their characters.

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I'm at the point where Soon Shin is definitely not the "best" anymore. She needs to take control of her life. Everyone acts like she's a young child - particularly with the who gets to be the mom and who says what she gets to do, etc. Maybe if she was a 10 year-old and there were actually custody issues to deal with... but this is ridiculous. The girl is 20. I need to see some backbone from SS for me to start believing in her again.

It's the JH-SS moments that keep me coming back. I'm glad they delivered some of that this time.

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Actually, Soon Shin would be 23. When they showed the year she was born, it said 1990. Assuming it is 2013 in the drama, she would be 23.

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korea has a different method of counting one's age, they include the birth year in the counting, so she is 24 in korean age.

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Yeah, I never got that - the synopsis I read somewhere said she was playing a 20 year-old but later they said she was born in 1990. But my point still stands. Whether 20 or 23, she's old enough to take responsibility for herself.

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I am sad that you regard this series poorly. You cannot expect all dramas to be full of romantic lovey-dovey moments all the time.

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While others ARE here (or there...) for the cute and lovey-dovey part, I am not so much. And I still think it sucks.

How many times has Mom#1 flipped-flopped - I count 5.
How many times has Soon-Shin done the same - I count 7.

And it just goes on and on. The whole thing with everyone trying to hide everything from everyone is just getting really old. As much as I wanted to like this series, I simply cannot take any more of the Mom-Bitches from Hell.

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Not ony DB but everyone on the net is criticising it. The tone is almost depressing (a sin for a family drama) and basically speaking, this drama is soup: Nothing really meaningful happens. People waited for a Pygmalion kind of story and all we have is PPL for fried chicken and cafe.

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Are the writers not taking in feedback or what? Isn't this the reason why they do live shoot? It has totally went off track. The two moms thing has got to stop, it's dragging on long enough. All the ahjummas has more screen time than JJS and IU and it's pissing me off. Too little cute and too much angst and they wonder why the ratings can't break into the 30% range.

I want JJS to admit his feelings for IU already. I want Bread Man to start wooing Hye Shin for real. I'm not looking forward to the upcoming story line of Chan Woo and Yoo Shin: she's going to marry him, stay with his family, and fight with chicken ahjumma everyday. Oh yay more ahjumma time.

The title is You're the best LSS. Not You're the best Song Mi Ryung.

Thanks Javabeans for the screencaps and all, this is better than full recaps so everyone can still have a rouge idea of the story and and fast forward the needless scenes.

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I think you mean You're the WORST Song Mi Ryung. Or You are off your rocker Song Mi Ryung. ;)

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actually, as soon as the mom conflict started, the ratings started to go up and reached the 30% margin. The past few weeks (around 3-4 weekends), they have maintained the 30% margin while on the first few episodes, where the focus was mainly on LSS becoming an actress, without the mom angst, the show had difficulty getting even 25% , so this shows how different the online community's views are with the show's target audience. Once again, maybe this has something to do with the cultural difference coz I'm asian and I don't really mind the family drama and find all plots and subplots actually realistic but then again that's just me. :)

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I was wondering if the Korean audiences were having the same reaction, but cannot find any current Nielsen (or other)ratings on it. The site I used before for the weekly ratings has not updated for quite a while.

Anyone know of a good site to see what the current viewer ratings for Korean cable/TV are?

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Koreandrama dot org. They update the ratings for all the shows on the big 3. Cable doesn't care much for ratings because of their different business model but Enews on twitter sometimes gives the ratings for tvN.

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Hah.. MR's facepalm moment are too many to choose from. Every time she's on screen, I take a deep breath and try not to reach in and shake her (even though I fast forward most of her scenes). I think for me, I think MR's actions make JA look much better than she actually is.

I don't mind YA.. Look at her previous 'mother', she did a switcheroo as well. So she learned from the perfect person.

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Anyone knows the song that Junho sing with his guitar on ep 30? Also the background song when Soonshin and Junho was on the train and she fell asleep on his shoulder?

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OMG! I was gonna ask the same thing!~kyaaaa

Somebody please help us with this! :)

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yes please if anyone can identify those 2 songs it would be greatly appreciated ^^.

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The song when Soon Shin feel asleep on Junho's shoulder is a new OST sang by Changmin 2AM and Dahee GLAM but it's not officially released yet. The other song, I have no idea. Still looking info about it :)

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Wow! Thanks liara! :)

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Someone mentioned Ojakgyo Brothers... and an awful thought appeared: could Junho's father be the hit and run driver who killed Soonshin's father? OMG ... it's not going to turn into a complete makjang, is it? You know: Junho and Soonshin finally came to realize their feelings for each other, start dating, then his father opposes the match because she is an actress (or by this time she will be). Then, finally approves, but oh, no, there is 10 more episodes, so there must be another dragged out hurdle - Junho's dad is a hit and run driver. Miryung is changed for the better by living with Soonshin and caring for the first time for another human being... they are more like a mother and daughter... and then BAM, this mother didn't come forward with the story of the hit and run. Aigo.

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I watched this for the 5 minutes of chan woo and yoo shin... better go back to hunt for jjs's singing. I'd watch more of it but fell out of disinterest for the mommy drama. I found it intriguing at first until it became unreasonable.

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i kinda liked MiRyung when she was SoonShin teacher...
then stupid manager ruin it... about WooJoo i think she's like that (again) because SoonShin scandal...

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I was totally ready to throw in the towel and stop watching regularly to do a marathon fast-forwarding-hardcore-viewing in one fell swoop near the end of it all... But the train scene won me over. He's just so HAPPY, dang it, and it is too precious. I don't think I could get through a week now, wondering if I missed another instance of Jun Ho's delighted smile.

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Thanks, JB. If only all the episodes were as great as the first twenty-five minutes of episode 30, I'd be a happy, happy girl--but not as happy as Jun-ho was in the train scene. ;D

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I swear, this show get more and more annoying by every episode. The only reasons that I am even watching it is because the Breadman bits are so funny.... I think that is what is the only RomCom part of this show... I mean sure we still want our hero and heroine to be together but they really aren't making progress the way we want them to. The other problem is that we have to endure 10 more weeks before we can digest this show... This show isn't as cute and as fun to watch anymore. Everyone is just so sad and I feel like this show is set up to basically showcase the crazy Mi-Ryung role.

I am honestly too peeved at everyone (except Breadman) because they are all so annoyingly gloomy. There isn't enough humor on this show... This sucks! The only show that went on forever that I ever really liked was Smile, You. I think I'll take time to watch Breadman from now on.

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I know! That's all I look forward too...what will breadman do this week with Hye-Shin?! haha. It sucks that their story is 5min an episode -.-

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Finally an episode with Soon Shin and Jun Ho together ! Just love JJS. MORE! MORE!

So cute! He's trying not to show jealousy toward Young Hoon but Soon Shin is oblivious to both.Really cute of her falling asleep on Jun Ho's shoulder, and he's pleased as punch. I wish they would show more about them than about the crazy and delusional Mi Ryung and the depressing adopted mother. So bored after 30 episodes...same old thing...

Also, I can't stand the chicken ahjumma. Her son is a competent doctor, and she's still trying to run his life as if he was a child. Is he a mama boy? Chan Woo should head for the hills with Yoo Shin, leave his mom, and quit his job cuz Yi Jung, the stalker and another delusional character, is recruiting meddlesome and irritating mom and chasing him down.

The last part was especially depressing where adopted mom kicked Soon Shin out of the house, and she was acting like a zombie. How can this happen to her after all her trials and tribulations? Bad moms...There are 20 more episodes to go..Oh no, poor soon shin is getting kicked around again..

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How awesome was the proposal scene? Now, I wouldn't want this too be the norm. But when she accepted him by saying, "why do you..." and crying, I just had to laugh. I even showed it too my sister who isn't watching this drama, and she laughed. It fits their relationship well. And he so understands her, he just smiles and gives her a hug; on top of the world, holding a crying girl who just quasi-insulted him. Hee.

And now it's time for the Mi-Ryung obtuse award for the week. That last scene, where Soon Shin is deadpanning, if you want this, if you want that, MR somehow thinks SS has come around. My astonishment never seems to die with her, no matter how jaded I think I've become.

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Regarding the proposal scene:

I know! Haha! It was so THEM. I don't know how many times I'd re-watched that scene. And every time, I laugh at them. And the couple seated behind YooShin. The guy just STARES at YooShin the whole time she was crying, from start to end and I just had to laugh out loud. Even the stall Ahjumma had to peek every now and then. Hahahahhahaha!!!!

I found that detail really well done. Usually in other dramas, when such noisy things happen, the people around just continue with what they were doing, which is so not how real life works out usually. People are curious little nosy pokers. Heh.

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Anyone knows the song during the train ride in episode 30?

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That is the new OST by Luna and Changmin (2AM) -

am awaiting for it to be fully released.

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I'm not gonna touch on the mom or the YS/CW plot coz there is already too much negativity running around this thread for that, and I'd rather focus on the good parts! (good vibes, good vibes!lol)

Anyway, here are some points I want to touch on these two episodes:

-I like YH, not necessarily want him to end up with LSS, but as a character I find that he is dependable and morally upright, so I was a bit disappointed that he answered SJH's call AND didn't tell LSS about it. Maybe he is trying to protect LSS and maybe didn't want her to be uncomfortable by mentioning SJH but I was just really bothered by it, even his assistant pointed out that it was rude. I honestly wouldn't have forgiven him so easily if not for the jealous fit that SJH had because of it!lol...I still think that YH is not interested in LSS in the romantic sense. To me, he is still just acting like a big brother that wants to protect her. Also, the small glances he throws between SJH and LSS makes me think that he actually understands SJH's feelings for LSS more that he's letting on, and is purposely egging SJH because of this. (that's why i'm letting him go for the phone call incident!lol) But if he does harbour some romantic feelings towards LSS, then I'm counting the phone incident as a FOUL!hehe

-the scene where SJH caught YH hugging LSS broke my heart--the way SJH slowed his pace when he saw the two before stopping rather than just immediately stopping dead in his tracks made it heart wrenchingly more effective. And the close up--I swear, if this guy's eyes can talk, it would probably have said an episode's worth of monologue!With just a split second, he was able to convey disbelief, pain, and confusion! There's just no end to raving about how incredibly talented JJS is, is there?hehe

-I love the guitar scene!!! First, because I get to hear JJS sing and play the guitar!Secondly, coz its another scene that shows LSS wavering on SJH. She gets mesmerized when SJH started playing, started reminiscing of her time with SJH, but then gets hold of herself and leaves, just to prove (i think) that none of it means anything to her. Lately, I find her doing this a lot--forcing herself to reject SJH, but somehow can't help but softening up to him. I think that the reason she is rejecting him so much is because she relates SJH with acting but now that she's back on track, then maybe she won't have to avoid him so much and will soon find herself relying on him more than she intended to.

-The train scene! yey!!! I especially love SJH's dorky expression--trying to act nonchalant about having LSS sleeping on his shoulder but in the end not being able to help but grin like a goofy highschooler!kyaaa~~

-The stopover scene! more kyaa~~ (sorry, my vocab is starting to fail on me--too much feels for JJS!hahaha). Especially the part where they had to take shelter from the rain and SJH helped LSS sort out her hair. The look LSS gave at that time is like that of a schoolgirl with a hopeless crush!hehe. Then when SJH told LSS that she's beautiful to him--total love KO!lol SJH should have more careless moments like this!hehe

Also, someone asked about this already but please, can anyone give the title of the song that JJS sang, as well as the background song for the train scene? Thanks much!!!

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Oh, wow, thorned sakura! :)

I agree totally, 100% with EVERYTHING you said!
Every single word you said abt JH and LSS are exactly what was on my own mind! Thank you for writing them down for my reading pleasure! So much joy and fun reading them!!

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You do love our Depyonim, don't you, Sakura? Agree with all you said and adding that another reason why Soonshin is rejecting Junho is that she may be thinking he is dating Yoona. Am I the only one who doesn't hate Miryung? I can't wait to see how the relationship between mother and daughter will develop. Will Miryung learn how to truly care for another human being? Will we get some insight into why she is the way she is? I'm hoping for some mother-daughter development. And, of course, lots and lots of Junho-Soonshin moments.

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I agree with you, chickletta. Soon-shin kept her distance from Joon-ho precisely because the last she heard from Yeon-ah and MR, Joon-ho and Yeon-ah are back together and which is also why Soon-shin said to Joon-ho she wished both of them all the best when Joon-ho met her outside the supermarket at the end of ep 24. Ever since then, nobody, not Joon-ho, not Yeon-ah, NOBODY has told her that Joon-ho and Yeon-ah are NOT together. And so, what's a girl got to do? Even though we all can see that she DOES have feelings for him from her voice, glances, smiles, body language and mannerisms. A person has got to be blind to NOT see that. She is just being the good girl that she is by keeping her distance from a guy who, to the best of her knowledge, is taken. Any proper girl would do the same, right?

I do not believe you are the only one person who does not hate MR, but maybe you are in the minority, and I am sure you know why the majority hates her so much.

So far, MR's characterisation has always shown her in the worst possible light especially after the revelation that Soon-shin is the daughter of the man who died trying to save her from being run down by a car and her way of trying to escape from being implicated in that tragedy is by deliberately sabotaging Soon-shin's effort in starting her career in the cruellest possible ways.

Then, after finding out Soon-shin is in fact her biological daughter, her way of working around that undeniable fact is by deliberately trying to manipulate her way into Soon-shin's life by taking over and literally forcing her way in, in every which way possible, conveniently pushing aside the UNDENIABLE FACT that she, MR, the biological mother, abandoned Soon-shin in the first place and has the GALL to be aggressive, demanding, angry, upset and disappointed with Soon-shin when Soon-shin made it very clear that she does not want anything to do with the mother who gave birth to her but clearly did not want her because she abandoned her. How self-absorbed can a person be to ask the daughter that she abandoned, "Why do you hate me so much?" I mean, DUH!!

Which is why I have said in my earlier comment - why do the writers and PDs choose to portray MR, and practically every single mother in this drama, in such a negative light? Do the writers and PDs have issues with their own mothers such that they enjoy portraying the mothers in this drama in such a way?

Because I do not believe that ANY viewer in his/her right mind ENJOYS watching the mothers in the drama displaying the worst possible behaviour. In fact, we positively HATE it! Because for most of us, one of the reasons we watch dramas is to escape from the harsh realities of life and savour the moments when we can be happy instead of having the lousy stuff being shoved into our faces and rubbing salt into our wounds and highlighting all that make us unhappy, dissatisfied, frustrated and angry. We KNOW our mothers are not perfect, just we are not perfect ourselves, and we know our lives are not perfect, but we certainly do not need to be served all that imperfections in such a stark light and in such overly-dramatic and overly-emotional fashion.

As for WHY, or the reason/s that MR became the way/person that she is, most viewers are just too put off by her characterisation so far that we just do not have the energy or even interest to know because she just irritates the hell out of most of us to the point that we just do not care.

In order to WANT to know why MR is the way she is, we need to at least CARE to WANT to know but so far she has mostly alienated most viewers by how horrible a person she has been. I wonder if anything that she has been through (which may or may not be revealed in the future) can redeem her in the eyes of her daughter in any way but to be perfectly honest, I am so NOT interested to know, unless she does something along the lines of sacrificing herself for Soon-shin, like saving Soon-shin's life or something. Anything less would NOT, in my humble opinion, redeem her for all that she has done, when the very first act she did after giving birth to her daughter is abandoning her and has never tried to find out how she is doing, or even if she still alive.

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so much hate for MR, huh, koreandramalover/kdl/kay ?lol

I also don't like MR but i think she is a necessary evil in the plot and surprisingly, I find her psychological battle intruiging. That's why although I do despise her, I am also looking forward as to how the show will present her growth.

Also, I don't want any redemption for her, what she did in the past is wrong and there shouldn't be any justification for it just to bring her character into a new light. Rather, I'd like to see her mature and rediscover herself through LSS, the way everybody is doing so right now.

Which is why I don't really hate all the angst in this show because, behind all the makjang, you actually see a lot the characters slowly unfolding and having self-discoveries, and actually growing within the show's premise.

Anyway, if you are not so keen on the senior characters and the angst, just focus all your energy on SJH..works for me everytime!lol

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I agree that in dramas, as in real life, there is the element of 'necessary evil' and MR is one but I am so turned off by her self-absorbed histrionics and complete narcissism and total disregard for others' feelings and thoughts that whenever she comes on-screen, I immediately TURN OFF the volume....I am so sick and tired of her...I do the same whenever Chicken Mom, Yijung and her mom and Yoon-ah come on-screen...

and I just rewind the cute and adorable moments between JH and LSS.....so, I have been doing exactly what you have suggested.....precisely because focusing on those two make me so happy and smiling and grinning and squeeing at the cuteness of JH and LSS together... ;)

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hahaha...Am I that obvious chickletta?lol

and agree with you on the YA factor too. That and the acting issue basically marks SJH as off -limits!That's why I'm very eager to see how LSS will handle her ever-growing fondness of him!heee

As for MR, I do hate her...but I think that's also what the show is aiming for, so I also don't necessarily want to kill her off just yet. I rather she finds out her faults and matures and SUFFERS until she dies!lol

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I would like to respond to your earlier comment to @superficial...

I think you have to be fair to the people who gave comments about this drama.

You should not say that they mistake this drama for a rom-com because according to you “its clearly a family drama” esp considering the time the drama is being aired.

To begin with, the definition of any drama can be so blurry and subjective that no ONE definition is THE definition for it. A drama can be a rom-com but also a family drama, and vice versa.

What would be a fairer statement is viewers have been misled by the writers and PDs because they (the writers and PDs) CHOSE the title “You are the best Lee Soon-Shin” for this drama and yet for a majority of the focus in this drama is not on how she BECAME the best, by overcoming all challenges and obstacles in her life to become the best, but instead the writers and PDs chose to pander to the preference of the older generation watching this drama and focus on the makjang-angst-galore.

It is interesting to know, from you, that when the makjang-angst are in full force, the ratings went up. That says a great deal about the psyche and mentality of the majority of Korean viewers who watch this drama. Why people PREFER to watch the makjang-angst-galore to watching the young characters is something I cannot wrap my head around and cannot understand. I am just glad I am not one of them.

During the many Press Conferences for the drama, the focus have been mainly on the young actors but then in the drama itself, they have done the complete opposite.

I know and understand the writers/PDs using the infuriatingly-over-used birth secret plot line – that LSS is actually an adopted child, who is actually MR’s bio-daughter, who is actually NOT the bio-daughter of the man who died trying to save MR from being run down by a car and how she overcame being mistreated by her adoptive family and being abandoned by her bio-mom, and being manipulated by Joon-ho and Yeon-ah - as the way to show HOW LSS overcome all those challenges to become the best person she can be, hence the drama title.

However, as Javabeans said in one of her recaps, the writers/PDs handling of this drama is so NOT subtle that the focus on the makjang-angst-galore and essentially-pointless-and-irritating side characters’ development are so stark, jarring on the nerves and unnecessary that it is such a sad waste of time, effort and talent of the actors.

Contrast that with the way the writers/PDs of “My Daughter, Seo Young” and “Ojakkgyo Brothers” were handled. Even though both have their share of angst, birth secrets, mom/dad and family issues, I did not have to skip through so much of both dramas when I watched them both. The handling of both dramas were not perfect, of course, but they did not cause me to become so very irritated as I am with the overly-dramatic, utterly-senseless characterisations that this drama have utilised.

To each his own. We all have our own preferences and we don’t like what we don’t like. So we should not be so quick to say or judge that people are wrong to prefer or like something or say that we are wrong to view something in a certain light because our point of view is wrong. Our perception is our reality and that perception very often is influenced by what has been presented to us.

You have stated many times that you like the angst and side character devt and so you don’t mind watching them play out in the drama. Good for you. Just do remember NOT to pass judgement on those who are not with you. We have the right to comment on what we like or don’t like about the drama but it does not mean that we are deliberately trying to find fault with the drama. We should respect one another's views without stepping on one another's toes along the way.

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Okay you guys, yes there is a lot of makjang but none of y'all are properly appreciating our MR SHIN! When I watched the ending of episode 29, I instantly noticed how the writers tried to fit all these little things in the last 15 minutes to satisfy us Jun Ho stans.

Gold moments in ep 29-30
1. His overreaction when Young Hoon told him they were sleeping the night

2. The fact that he instantly went back to his funny misunderstanding self and blindly went to their MT without thinking about his actions

3. When he tried to find their location in a hurry and tripped up over on a tree... LOL, at that moment all that went through my head was 'hesss baaaack!' We all lost count of how many times he tripped up on something during the first 5 episodes, so that part was highly satisfying.

4. So many cheesy grins instead of the usually glum looks of ep 20-28 from our Mr Shin that I found myself unconsciously grinning cheese with him.

5. THE DUDE SANG... He actually SANG!

While watching these parts I felt as if my email to KBS had been read, lol. One of the main things I said was that I want the old Mr Shin back. Even though it was only for a short while, I'm glad he still popped out! Now all they need to realise is that 3/4's of the drama need to be like end of 29/beginning of 30 and only a 1/4 needs to be given to the ahjummas!

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I love Yoo-shin's indirect acceptance of Chan-woo's proposal. I think it's really honest. We can all see she's affected by her soon-to-be mother-in-law's inquiry of her relationship with her son and her very obvious dislike of her. I just think it's funny that she accepted his proposal after reassuring his mother twice already that they already broke up. Hee.

Plus many cute Soon-shinxJun-ho moments are ALWAYS welcome. :)

I have Mi-ryung. That's it.

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Honestly some parts of the drama have gotten ridiculous! But still love the small bits of romance they put in! You know I'm waiting for that reporter to publish the story what if he publishes it w the true dad's name and he turns out to be some rich scary dude that totally brings Mi ryung down to size! That'd be funny!

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I feel stupid cursing at my computer when the same old annoying characters do the same old annoying things. Why can't they just. disappear.

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YTBLSS and I have a love-hate relationship. I'm ready to stay strong and watch every second of this drama no matter how much I dread the angst to come just because of how much I loved the moments that I did. I'm not going to say anything about all this angst... and while Mi Ryung is in my negative spotlight, I still try to think about what could make her like this and consider how she was raised in an orphanage and the weekly bad experiences with whoever is Lee Soon Shin's biological father, it's probably painful for her to admit and that's why she lets the misunderstanding that Chang Hoon is her real father continue...

Please, please, I hope that the writers of this have an actually really great plan for how everything comes together in the end, or that they will clean YTBLSS up nicely and let it redeem itself, because it started so so well

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-Excuse my typo.

I meant, "in an orphanage and the seemingly bad experiences with..."

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I wish bread man and Hye-Shin wasn't a 5 minute segment every episode...their storyline is like the only thing I look forward to every episode these days..

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I have no idea if anyone will read this as its so long since this series was aired, but perhaps you're like me and started watched the series off Youtube. I'm new to Korean drama, but I've seen many Korean movies. I thought this was a fantastic series. I really wanted to comment about the person "Javabeans" recommending skipping parts. DON'T!!! You'll miss too much and won't enjoy the eventual payoff. I came across this blog when I actually started watching the series a second time. I was enjoying this person's commentary, but was disappointed with the negative reaction to anything that wasn't "cute". Youll lose the intensity if you skip the hard parts. DON'T SKIP!!!!

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