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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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When the Camellia Blooms: I’ve been enjoying Camellia so much, but haven’t quite been able to find the words to express why I’m loving the show until now. The plot reads like a very straightforward romance, but what could have been a one-dimensional story is packed with nuance and the drama’s chock full interesting, multi-dimensional characters. That’s not to say the romance isn’t great! There’s something so sweet and pure between Dong-baek and Yong-shik. Though they’ve both dated before, it’s a lot like watching two people experience a first love. Yong-shik was a character I thought I wouldn’t like at first. I’m a bit tired of male leads who are pushy and “know” what’s best for their lady loves. Yong-shik seemed like he’d slot right into that sort of archetype as he wasn’t really great with boundaries in the early episodes. But the drama quickly showed that, though he’s definitely forceful when it comes to expressing himself, he doesn’t push himself onto Dong-baek. I love that we haven’t had a scene where he’s grabbed her wrist, but we have had one where he held out his hand and asked her to take it.

 

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Graceful Family: I absolutely love this show. The characters, the story, the twists… even the OST was awesome. I’ll look fondly at the whole cast after this, but I definitely had my faves in Im Soo-hyang, Bae Jong-ok, and Lee Kyu-han. Theirs was a great frenemy dynamic. Suk-hee, Han Jae-gook, and Wan-soo would’ve made great allies, but their tangled stories made it such that an alliance was impossible in this life. Their what ifs made for such great angst *wipes tears*. I hope this crackjang revival started by An Empress’s Dignity and continued by Graceful Family will continue into next year, because I love this trend and don’t want it to die.

Tale of Nokdu: I guess having one great episode this week is better than having two mediocre ones, but still… WHY DID WE ONLY HAVE ONE EPISODE??? I love all the mountain village widow+gisaeng stuff. The palace intrigue, not so much. Y’know Jung Jun-ho who plays the insecure king is one of my ajusshi faves, but much like my other fave Ahn Seok-hwan, they’re only great at heartwarming roles. They’re terrible at being villains and end up being annoyingly one-dimensional. It doesn’t help that Nokdu and Dong-joo are being such funny cuties that I end up resenting any screentime away from them. And we had 60 minutes stolen from us this week. *grumble grumble*

Pegasus Market: Still funny, but I love that it’s starting to develop a bit of heart now that Jung Bok-dong is feeling guilt about his employees who get affected by his self-sabotage plans. There’s really no big bad in this show which makes for a lighthearted watch. Park Ho-san is great as the twirly-mustached villain who can’t make sense of his hilariously dense spy. And it doesn’t help that there’s no method to Bok-dong’s madness, so he keeps receiving gibberish reports which his paranoia turns into complicated schemes. LOL The errant grandson VP is interesting too. I’m hoping that the Chairman will order him to work in Pegasus Market so he can have a similar redemption arc as Dongha in Chief Kim.

 

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When the Camellia Blooms: Even after 8 episodes, I don’t know if I quite like this show. It has all the pieces for the kind of weird, heartwarming-with-an-edge slice of life show that’s usually my #1 jam, but… the pieces don’t hold together for me. I think part of the problem is that it often shows and tells us different things. So we started out with a heroine who is unceasingly timid and suppressed in almost every aspect of her life—understandingly so, considering the people who surround her in Ongsan—but we’re told from the very start that she’s actually a hippo, deadly and strong. But that sets up this weird cognitive dissonance that never really gets resolved, even whan she starts to stand up for herself. I’d much rather we just saw Dong-baek as she is, someone who has a hard time confronting people because of the kind of life she’s lived. She doesn’t have to “show her claws,” as other characters tell her, in order to demonstrate how strong she is. And I feel like part of the show’s unevenness is that it seems to understand this in some moments, and not in others. I feel the same way about Yong-shik at times; is he an aw-shucks hero with a heart of gold, a clumsy but decent man doing his best, or an overbearing dude who needs to re-check his boundaries? The show doesn’t seem to know. The only one I really understand is Jong-ryeol. He might be severely misguided, and often acts like a jerk, but his motivations are clear and we know where he’s coming from. Dong-baek and Yong-shik often have me scratching my head with all the back-and-forth they keep doing. I don’t necessarily need to like them—this isn’t that kind of drama, heck, Oh Jung-se and Son Dam-bi are killing it as the despicable but hilarious No Gyu-tae and Hyang-mi, and the townspeople are deliciously hateful—but it would be nice if the leads felt authentic. Especially with Dong-baek, I feel like we’ve been told a lot about her history that in theory makes sense to make her the way she is, but something just feels… off. Still, I’ll keep watching. I’m rooting for Pil-gu above all else, and my only OTP is Pil-gu and his birth daddy.

 
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Pegasus Market (Episode 4)
Suk Goo’s brand of social bluntness really stood out in this episode, whether it be impressing Mi Ran with his loyalty or stunning Mr. Kwon with his logic or even weirding out the congressman with his headstand. I do find that arc a little bit contrived for creating some sort of conflict for the market since the episodic content we’ve gotten so far seems tied so far with neighbourhood folk problems and issues which has kept it breezy and light, but I trust that Bok Dong will come back and resolve this mess in a hilarious way: he is a good guy at heart even if he outmatches Suk Goo in being weird!

Extraordinary You
Subjectively speaking, the reveal that Baek Kyung had been self-aware for some time made me sympathise him less: a more gracious person would have apologised to Dan Oh for being so rude, instead, he continued bullying Ha Roo. From an objective perspective, Baek Kyung’s crude personality even in self-awareness (he should know now that his mother died in a overly contrived manner for the tropes, hence no stressful family environment excuse anymore) might have to do with character consistency. Him and Do Hwa have similar personalities in Shadow and Stage, whereas Dan Oh and Ha Roo have different ones: I wonder if this is indicative of Dan Oh and Ha Roo actually belonging to a different comic.

Tale of Nokdu
When Aengdoo appeared in the episode, I was already dreading the eventual expose of Nok Du’s disguise since she is a character added by the writer to inorganically speed up the plot, which culminated in that cliffhanger. I find myself at odds with the show at times since the politics are a bore (like I care about what grand plan the ministers have or whom the king wants killed) and there’s no doubt that dark cloud will develop more. For now however, I’m worried about what Yul Moo will do: he’s got the power, the jealousy and the knowledge. Will he be the archetypical k-drama second lead?

Melting Me Softly
There’s a lot in this show that is hilariously bad to watch: the two minions and the kidnapping (don’t get me started on how ridiculous that was), the evil CEO and secretary planning to kill people as per the villain manual (chair rocking and overacting notwithstanding), the overdramatic and shameless Byung Shim (the poor actor is getting typecast though), the non-apologetic Ha Young who doesn’t see how the train has already left the love station (let’s pray for no jealousy arc) and the flailing variety directors with zero character depth. I do like the moments between the main leads though!

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I think you are wrong: Baek Kyung has been on the verge of awakening for the past few episodes but finding the book was the final straw of acceptance. We'll see next episode if I'm correct.
Other than that, I agree he is unnecessarily rude and pushy and I think it's done purely to generate a conflict.

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i agree w/ nahaluk.

but even if Baek Kyung's been aware for longer than the last few minutes of that last ep, if u think about it from his POV, he still doesn't know he's in a manhwa.

he's experiencing memory loss which could have him lashing out even more.

I hope Joo-da becomes aware next~

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If you really want to know re. other characters becoming aware. Check out the release of MBC character descriptions. There are spoilers there. I admit to being surprised re. Joo Da’s. Do Hwa is too sweet for Joo Da.

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Extraordinary You
extraordinary You Rewatch
Extraordinary You BTS
Extraordinary You Insta tags :))

Camellia - show is still awesome and love it. Yong shik 💗

Graceful Family - done. Bitter sweet ending. Glad I watched this show.

Background watch Untamed at Episode 20!!

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MBC has released Extraordinary You character descriptions. There’s an English translation in another popular forum. But there are spoilers so beware. I admit to being shocked at some of the reveal.

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Woo-hoo! I'm with you! I'm totally loving Extra-Ordinary You 😍😋😁

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Melt Me is a disappointment. Not because of the ridiculousness and crazy humour (that bbq promotion of Na's family 😂)... but because of the general writing directions (and some directional choices of the PD). It didn't went where I wanted it to go... and went where I didn't want it to go... (And someone should explain to the PD / writer that the couple scenes in the freezer... or exchanges of the iced water are better romantic scenes than those completely random ones with sudden proximity and long stares).... And yet I'm still watching... because time to time I can feel the tragedy of lost 20 years... and lost love which can't be saved. (And yes, there is also Byung Shim (Shim Hyung Tak!!!) and his wife 😁 ).

Camellia isn't a show I'm rushing to watch (that's Extraordinary 😆)... but when I watch, it's such a pleasure. There is no weak actor and I savour every minute, even if it means watching Yong Shik worried about Joker being someone he knows... or Dong Baek braking down and wanting to leave the town. And... attorney Ja Young is slowly becoming one of my favourite characters.

Extraordinary is still extraordinarily good and still number one for me. (And Kim Hye Yoon's energy often reminds me of Jung Eun Ji (Reply 1997, Sassy Go Go)).

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Camellia moves so slowly. I can skip a couple of episodes yet find I have missed nothing material.

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I'm watching 'Melting Me Softly' but at this point its only to document the missed opportunities. The last episode I was thinking "Ah, they seem to have finally found something... wait... wait... no, they squandered it again." I'm concurrently watching 'Healer' for the first time just as a contrast. Comparing the two, you realize the hero of 'Melting' has not actually DONE anything yet, except get his old job back.

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Yes, it's indeed so many missed opportunities... sometimes I'm even grieving...

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- Completed -

Graceful Family: There were flaws in the writing department, well for Wang Joo's character, but that aside I loved Suk Hee, her partner Heo, the fish funeral, the secret birth and more clichés tropes. Earlier in the drama I thought the less predictable, Wan Soo, would be the murderer but I liked him so much I brushed this idea. That's a makjang I won't forget for sure!

The Great Show: The drama ended on happiness found in little but precious things like family. O6 wished it focused more on Dae Han and the kids, rather than have so many people not directly involved with family hijinks. The romance with Soo Hyun was unnecessary because she and Da Jung could have developed the same bound and SH would have almost the same character treatment.

Kinou Nani Tabeta? (What Did You Eat Yesterday?): Loved the recipes in each episode and the growth of Shiro as a closeted gay (outside of his family) and his boyfriend, the ever flamboyant Kenji. It was sweet to see Kenji trying his best to please Shiro and learn to have opened discussions, even with some burst of jealousy. Shiro becoming more comfortable going out in public and introducing him to his parents were the best achievement ever (the last episode!!). I liked this show a lot with food and warm feelings.

Saka no Tochu no Ie (A House On the Slope): I liked the ending with the final judgment. A person's environment can put so much pressure and doubts on one self that it's easy to just do something horrible at one moment when it was not something to do if friends, family, people really close didn't create so much confusion. I understand why a lot people talked about it.

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Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life: They added coma not for one but two people just to make things messier. At least, they stopped an affair I guess? The wife meets the mistress' oppa and just go crazy because she doesn't have a child to secure her place in the family. The other party involved is a friend of the wife's little sister who's hated by everyone and works for her exam. The big brother and her meet and they bicker. Oh and the dad in Graceful Family plays a sweet dad here I was shocked haha. At this rate, I'm going to count every trop used in each episode.

Extraordinary You: Could Fairy be some kind of guardian? He said he was an extra but we can't be sure. What if he had to guard the green hole to keep everything in order in the manhwa. He doesn't have power himself but can notify someone (the writer) that something is wrong. (Just adding that I liked Dan Oh's reference to Italy, pronounced Lee Tae Ri, the actor's name lol) Back to the actual episodes content, I started to get attached to Haru as he was showing more of his personality and expressions. Good move to make him disappear because I'm now curious to know what happened and if an other character could have the same faith. Was Haru sent back to the manhwa Flower...

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or as a nameless extra, the no-face kind? I don't think Kyung will be a villain, he's a huge jerk (nope, no backstory can make me feel pity for him) but not an antagonist who got rid of Haru. He was confused the all time, so I can't imagine him plan something against him in such a short time. Do Hwa is still trying to change his faith and I loved how Dan Oh and Haru helped him. I still think he will stay a second lead even in the shadow but I'm rooting for him! Or even for Do Hwa x Violin which is a love-hate relationship. I can't get enough of their absurd scenes 😂

Leverage: The team dynamics will be fun to watch, or so I hope. Kim Sae Ron must have fun filming her scenes but they could have made her and Yeo Hui Hyun's character more professional. Still, it's the beginning and Lee Dong Gun did a good job as a father desperately trying to save his son. I quite like Jeon Hye Bin's character. Nobody wants to cast her? No problem, she buys the whole theater lol I haven't warmed up to Kim Kwon's character yet but I hope to see him and Yeo Hui Hyun's character interact more (Marry Me Now reunion!)

The Lies Within: I'm not that interested in the cop parts. Like other Beanies said, the investigation team isn't bright and I was more interested in Lee Yoo Yeong's character. I don't think I will keep watching though.

My Country: on ep 5. I feel like Yeon will soon find out Hwi is her brother because he and Sun Ho aren't that subtle about keeping it secret. Madam Seo is ill but I feel like she will sacrifice herself to protect Hee Jae, maybe against the guy who caused trouble in Ihwara? Yi Bang Won is on the move with the throne successor and we will soon see Jeong Do Jeon! Sun Ho is joining the King's side, Hee Jae serves the Queen and the crow prince so, will we soon see Hwi working for Bang Won?

Ore no Hanashi wa Nagai (If Talking Paid): Ikuta Toma is back in a drama 😍😍😍 As it was just the first episode, I don't have much to comment than it seems like a slice-of-life, family drama with an unemployed man living with his mother and when his sister and her family joined them for a short time, she will make him found a job and become independent. It looks like they will talk about dreams with Toma's character whose coffee shop failed and his sister's husband giving up on music. The sister's daughter seems to have problems at school so that could be interested to get life advices from a good-for-nothing uncle. The sister seems to like controlling everyone's life and I hope she will understand she has to respect people's choices.

Pegasus Market: I think our dear Bok Dong is startiy to appreciate his work in Pegasus Market. That little smile when he saw the confortable mat and the kids wasn't a lie.

The Running Mates: This week's case was about workers union and longtime friends. Two episodes were necessary to fully go over this case since there was a lot to go through. Both...

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Both the workers/friends and inspectors. Seeing work conditions and workers rights not being respected always make me angry.

Secret Boutique: I believe Jenny and Jung Hyuk's relationship is a platonic relationship and they both care deeply for each other. JH said, as a teen, she was her best friend but I think she might have had a crush on him at the time. I'm still not sure now, but this relationship needs to be saved for my heart's sake. It was nice to see Hyun Ji and Sun Woo get closer and have more intimate discussions. Ye Nam and Tae Seok weren't actually romantically involved all these years, they just spent that night together after years. I found this ironic since we saw her mother having a similar relationship with her right hand(?).

Tale of Nokdu: Yeol Moo is really popular with ladies, isn't he 😂 Nok Du and he have some good comic chemistry going on. I wished he discovered that she is a he later just to have more misunderstanding scenes. I think he won't reveal Nok Du's secret judging from the next episode's preview, so what kind of deal will he, Nok Du and Dong Joo make? The little fiancée so far is used to cause more troubles for her "Unni" than making things smooth. Since more people knows his identity, it won't be long until he's outed. Nok Du's brother and father are either dead or imprisoned, even if I believe there's a higher chance for the former.

When The Camellia Blooms: Jung Ryeol... When will he understand getting close with Pil Gu as his son doesn't mean he can interfere in Dong Baek's life? I understand why she is so against him meddling in both her and PG's life. However, I just wish she tells her son he could decide on whether he can still meet his dad or not. DB's mom doesn't have dementia since she behaves like a totally sane person and Hyang Mi found her out. Is the ID card found with the corpse hers? I wouldn't be surprised if that's her real name or if she doesn't end up dead because of her multiple threats to many people, I would have been played by the writer all along. Is the person she was talking to near the building Joker or was it a red herring? I feel like we will have some plot twists going on. DB's mom must be involved in some shady things. No way she returned just because she missed her daughter. I like the lawyer, she has to put up with some much things because she stays herself, doesn't let pressure get to her (that mother-in-law arrrrrgh), is a capable woman and has her vulnerable moments.

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Several times while watching When the Camellia Blooms I have wondered if Dong Baek's mother is the Joker. Although I definitely agree that she doesn't seem like she has dementia, I still don't feel like she's totally sane.

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I thought she could end up killing Hyang Mi but not being Joker. It seems like she feels protective of DB and could see HM as a threat for both her and DB.

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Wow, mango. You watch a lot of show. How did you find time? Did you find the secret of time travel or freezing time, perhaps? Do share. :)

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Be a broken student ;)

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Where are you watching these j dramas?

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On drama nice :)

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Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life: What a mess of a show! It's like the writer decided to throw all the loudest most shocking tropes at high speed to see what will stick. I'm already exhausted at this point. I only hope Oh Min Suk won't spend the next 40 episodes of this drama in a coma because I was only invested this puppy.

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I think he will wake up when his wife and the other guy will fall for each other.

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Graceful Family's time skip frustrated me. Only in dramaland do characters reunite and talk as if digital communication doesn't exist. It's exposition for the audience but baffling given the characters' closeness.

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I was not even surprised of them using a timeskip with no communication. Gotta pill up these cliché tropes.

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I consider most K-drama last episode time-jumps to not really be part of the story. 'Pretty Noona who buys me food' ended, in my mind, with the hero going to America. Meeting again 4 years later was merely an addendum. There's some utility in time jumps *if* you want to see what the characters are like without all the sturm und drang of the previous episodes. Living 'normal' lives out from under the makjang cloud. Fan-servicing, basically.

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JAPAN -

BOUKYAKU NO SACHIKO - 8.5 out of 10. still. yes. 1st time i saw sachiko at manga magazine cover. As soon as i saw her eating food i knew she was something special and within 3 pages Shingo ran away. Manga has a very different appeal from the Live-action. Part is because of direction and part is because of Actor and acting. Art style and how dialogues are written makes is Quality media to cherish. So i do get the feel that Live-Action is more original than taking story from manga.

If Talking Paid - Ore no Hanashi wa Nagai - 8.5 out of 10. Must read Nippon Tv Description of show. Its far more strict and blunt. Really enjoyed the 1st episode. It was so refreshing. Maybe its because i'm coming across so much trash that even an above average show looks like decent. A possibility. Ikuta as brother and Koike Eiko as elder sister are perfect choice for the heir respective characters. Yasuda Ken as meta hsuband of Koike gems well. I say every actor looked comfortable and natural or maybe the characters are drawn so well that actor not much job to do. Niece-Mitsuru as pair is up there for action in their life. Don't assume anything naughty. I'm talking about progression of their growth. They aren't exactly a foil of each other but daughter-mother pair is ready to pinpong near future of Mitsuru.

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You Shine in the Moonlit Night - 7 out of 10. From Japanese Light Novel to Live-action. Same troupe of Heoine ill, Heroine no more. Seriosuly, a part of my heart is so disappointed. Kitamura Takumi 1st took the heartache in I want to eat your pancreas with Hamabe Minami and now with Mei Nagano. He did few ads with Hamabe as well as promotion of books. General Advertising trick.
Mei Nagano is cute and white as fog. What else?
Takumi is as usual. what else?

Where is the story? Theme? Purpose? Objective?
I want to live, you want to live. Everyone wants to live.
Everyone wants to be happy. Yes yes yes. Why do we need a movie for something we all know, experience, want to experience and seek.

Overall a timepass. It tackle heartache and -ve thoughts aka give Hero a proper answer. Pretty good answer and that's why i gave it 7.

There is much more to say but that kind of talk i reserve for kdramas for present.

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Japanese drama with @gledis-sotiri

What you eat yesterday - catching upto you guys
@moonbean started 4k and 8k viewing of Korea. I hope to see it in real too as a traveler.

Leverage - 4/10 dropped
The Trash Show - 3/10 big big family's happy outcome nonsense. This show is way more worse than wagebond.

Korean - Wagebond - Why i gave it this suitable name? Because Hero by all stereotypical measures a labour and he's proving that fact each and every episode. from job-to-justice.
In the 1st week of airing i said it - This kind of trash actually harms heroine a lot. Said last week - this trash is harmful to whole industry. Show any casual or nonasian content viewer this show and you will get your answer. All korean writers out there should form an association and sue the everyone involved at top for the production of this trash. This is why i say it again. if rating is good then surely you need to ask few questions to the audience.

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New jdramas, new schedule.
If talking paid - seems the kind of warm family drama I missed.
Cheat- boring. next.
This is not a business expense - I love it, although the details are a bit too much 😅
Boukyaku no Sachiko- it's calm and nice. a good healing drama.
Starting.
Ouroboros. - The cast.
Nippon Noir- it has subs so...
Motokare mania - curious about the story.
Sherlock- I hope it doesn't bore me.
History 3, make our days count - I'll see what happens.

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Ouroboros *chefs kiss*

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I will talk about Cheat and Nippon here.

This is not a Business Expense - got translation? wow. on google now.
Motokare Mania - I'm interested in this show too. Trailers are good. check their official twitter.

SACHIKO - deserves 8.5+. Check its manga.

Cheat - 4/10 Terrible. Everyone. What's up with the story and it characters and it rubs off badly on actors too. Writer was too confused with his/her own writing. messy 1st episode.

Nippon Nair - 4/10 Kaku Kento. It was also as much terrible as Cheat.

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business expense- check the fansub map.
motokare, I googled it with English title "ex-enthusiasts " and found it in a drama site.

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Is Nippon Noir a spin off/sequel of an other drama? If that's the case, can I watch only Nippon Noir?

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1. Extraordinary you- This show is amazing, and I don't even like teen dramas! I love all the boys (Oh Nam ju not so much but I suppose his character is pretty annoying the way it is written) and our main girl to pieces.
My country- I don't love the show but once I begin an episode I have to finish it.
Flower crew- I enjoy watching the main couple a lot.
Secret Boutique- I am a little behind but I am planning on binge watching this weekend

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EXTRAORDINARY YOU (Ep. 8): #obsessed. Whatever happens, don’t hurt Do-hwa show! He’s the most precious cheeky violin-playing second lead ever. Kyung needs a seaweed slap.

MY COUNTRY (Ep.4): Sun-ho’s descent into the fiery pits of villain hell seemed a bit sudden to me, but I haven’t quite digested this episode. Thank goodness for recaps and discussing with other beanies. This drama is character-driven so there is a lot to analyse yay!

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Also could @stroopwafel or other DB Staff add MY COUNTRY to the Currently Airing list? Please? Jang Hyuk and I will keep pestering you to do it. :P

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Yay you did it! Operation rescue abandoned lol.

MY COUNTRY is making me read and reread the history because we are given a chance to examine it from multiple characters' point of view.

Jang Hyuk and Kim Yeong-cheol especially bring so much to the table with charismatic overload performances in just a few minutes on screen.

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Yay success! Thank you DB Overlords. 😊

MY COUNTRY is a treat for the eyes and the brain! I love that there are multiples angles and possible interpretations of these characters and events.

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My head spins with this drama and I love it.

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@wishfultoki,
I just wanted to jump in here and congratulate you on preserving until victory was at hand. Lol. “The squeaky wheel gets the grease”.

Also I am sorry I haven’t been active so far on the MY COUNTRY discussion front as of yet. I hope to jump into with you guys soon. I will be going through the recaps. I love the history lessons so you will probably see some late comments.
Let me just say that I love it. What a great production.
In last weeks episodes I was sorry to see Sun-ho be such an ingrate to Hwi.

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Take your time. This show seems best savoured slowly, at least for me. See you in the recaps section!

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@marcusnyc20 bong-soo,
Glad to hear you're tuning in. I got behind in the recaps for WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS a couple of weeks ago, and it has been hard to catch up. So be kind to yourself. The recaps aren't going anywhere. MY COUNTRY is dense and detailed in a good way. We're finally seeing more of Yi Bang-won this weekend, and Jang Hyuk is magnificent, as expected.

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Thanks @wishfultoki and @pakalanapikake. Yes, Jang Hyuk did make quite the entry.
I am currently live watching CAMELLIA, VAGABOND and MY COUNTRY. A lot going on in all three.
I started as a catch up the wonderful MISAENG (2014). I am through episode 8. I am enjoying all of them and blessed that they all are (or were) recapped.

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@bong-soo @marcusnyc20
We saved you a seat so head over when you have time.

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Hi @kiara and thanks. I am waiting for the appearance of Mong-ju and Sambong.

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Unfortunately Mong-ju and Sambong would not make an appearance otherwise some of the fictional characters would not be relevant.

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Thank you, Minions for fixing the Currently Airing list. ;-) <3 <3 <3

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Hey Wishful, we always seem to like the same dramas! I just binged EY and it's almost crack. My Country started terrific but the last episode felt a bit draggy so I'm afraid it might not remain good till the end. The other show I like is Camellia. I'm not sure I'd like it so much if I hadnt seen Ha Neul in more serious roles where he doesn't exaggerate his overbite! I know he's sexy under all that goofiness!

I've dropped pretty much all the other dramas I started though I'm desultorily watching Nok Du still.

Are you watching anything else?

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Hi @barbrey! EY is on crack level for me but I’m scared it could crash and burn.

MY COUNTRY is a slow watch for me. I enjoy it more when discussing with beanies actually. I don’t know if it’s the subtitles or what but I’m not totally immersed in the story while I watch. It’s more of a brainy show for me.

I’m not watching anything else atm. I tried a few things but I think I need a break from Joseon sageuks. I also need some balance in my drama viewing life hehe.

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@wishfultoki, cc: @kiara
Truth to tell, MY COUNTRY's subtitles are okay, but seem a bit off. There was one overt howler in the ep. 3 scene of Park Chi-do lending his bow to Hwi to pick off the enemy general outside his tent ("buffalo horn arrow" instead of "buffalo horn bow"), which made me leery. I should be more grateful that the show has subtitles at all.

BTW: This morning I happened to watch an excerpt from EMPRESS KI, and was surprised to see Ha Ji-won using a tongah (split bamboo arrow guide) to shoot a pyeon-jeon "baby arrow" in an archery contest with Joo Jin-mo. So that's how they work. Cool!

You can clearly see the arrow inside the tongah starting @02:50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMzxuxJ3HuQ

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I am watching Empress Ki right now! I remember seeing the same arrow guide in Chuno.

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Well you picked the best two. You might want to try Camellia as well once you're done. It's not crack but Kang Ha Neul is doing a clinic on how to act goofy without quite losing his sex appeal. And as always with the female lead, she picks roles with major character development so her character is growing on me too. I have to say they've been written with inconsistencies in character though, but that just tends to nag at me. The mystery is creepy and fun at the same time. Go figure.

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I'm not liking the subtitles at all.

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*sigh* I actually understood a few terms here and there in eps. 5-6, and the Netflix subtitles are not always accurate. For example, i heard someone called a "lowborn", but the word that was actually used was "butcher" (which is more specific than "lowborn" and a greater insult). With the Netflix translation we lose the historic meaning).

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@barbery,
CAMELLIA is one of the 3 dramas that I am live watching and the first time I have seen Kang Ha-neul. I love the show.
Recently I started MISAENG (2014). ( I am through episode 8 and love it!) It was on my list of well received dramas that I haven't seen. Anyway, I knew KHN was in it but it was probably an hour in before I realized that the character Baek-gi was being portrayed by KHN. He was totally unrecognizable. Every episode I stare at him to see the KHN connection between BG and Yong-sik.
Finally in episode 8 BG pursed his lips like he does with YS. That one little thing is the only connection I can find.
He created two totally different characters.

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I know exactly what you mean! On another blog, someone mentioned they thought Ha Neul wasnt attractive when they saw the promotional material. I posted up the photo of him and IU in Cosmo in response. Ha! But also said he was one of the best kdrama actors and if the character called for a goof he'd play one we couldn't tell from real. And so it is proving.

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@marcusnyc20 bong-soo,
Glad you're enjoying MISAENG. I loved Lee Sung-min's and Im Si-wan's performances to bits. It's been a couple of years since I saw it, so my memories of the show are a bit hazy. Keep an eye out for Mu Jin-sung (formerly Yeo Ui-joo) as new employee (intern?) Jang Ki-suk. He played Myongnong Seja's scene-stealing faithful bodyguard Kang-bok in THE KING'S DAUGHTER, SOO BAEK HYANG, and also appeared in TWO WEEKS, SHINE OR GO CRAZY, and SCHOLAR WHO WALKS THE NIGHT, in which he ended up as a vampire. -- What a great performance. I wish he'd do another sageuk.

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@pakalanapikake What what? Kang-bok was in MISAENG? Ok, I need a rewatch (It's only been 5 months since I rewatched it lol but my attention is always fixed on our four interns and their bosses). I will look out for uri steadfast bodyguard Kang-bok.

Also look out for a certain character from ARTHDAL, @marcusnyc20 (I won't tell you whom so I won't spoil it for you).

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@wishfultoki October 19, 2019 at 3:09 PM

I kid you not. Kang-bok in 21st century office worker garb. Actually, I think he's one of the herd of job candidates who gradually get weeded out. ;-)

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@pakalanapikake, @wishfultoki,
Follow up. I am leaving tonight on a 2 week tour of China so I will be in catch up mode upon my return.
I just wanted to let you know especially @wishfultoki that I was on the lookout In MISAENG for the
AC connection. Sure enough when the new character joined the team in episode 11 I thought it might be him and who was it but Moo-beak (Park Hae-noon) himself looking very spiffy clean shaven and in a suit! (He also seems to be carrying burdens in this drama.) Tbh without the hint I probably would not have picked up on him.
In another thread I mentioned that would make a terrible witness unlike you guys.
See you when I am back.

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Ugh. D*mn iPad.
“Moo-baek”.

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Have fun touring China @marcusnyc20! I’m so jealous.

I hope you enjoyed MISAENG.

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@marcusnyc20 bong-soo,

Have a wonderful time in China! @wishfultoki and I wil keep the recap comments hopping while you're away. ;-)

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Many thanks.

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I will now feel unsatisfied if Extraordinary You ends without a well deserved seaweed slap for Kyung! As much as I enjoy him playing a thoughtful puppy, Lee Jake Wool is deliciously bad. I love his glower.

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Flower Crew – I find myself dozing off multiple times while watching an episode these days. But even so, when Gae Ddong said she was ecstatic to finally have a real name as she had been randomly called Gae Ddong all this while, even in my half daze I had the sense to question: wasn’t that the name her brother called her (even when they were children escaping the mob)? So that had to be her real name, right? No? Aside from that obvious gaff, I think the problem with the show is, the ladies (both Gae Ddong and the mean girl, Ji Hwa) are just not engaging enough to make me want to root for their happiness. I want Gae Ddong to be less whiny and the mean girl to be less mean. I mean there is a difference between being mean to the help and being mean to your peers.

Tale of Nokdu – The lone episode this week had me cackling. I did not see the kiss (between the two men) coming and hell yeah, I want more of that! But the shirtless kiss at the end was very nice too. Gosh, Jang Dong Yoon is so good as both man and woman, I just don’t know who to ship him with!

Vagabond – Legit shipping Lily with NK hitman. Sparks were flying all over the place – and I don’t mean from gun fire.

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life – They should have opened with this week’s episodes and did the first 2 weeks’ episodes as flashbacks. But I guess they thought shock value was the only way to hook viewers from the beginning.

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In Flower Crew I just want someone to assassinate the king so we can avoid all those weeks of angst and skip over the annoying second lead drama and save Gae Ddong from all those decisions she will need to make in deciding between the two. Just get rid of the king and be done with it.

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Yong Jiu's grocery store: If ypu missed a slice of life show, here is a great one. It is surprising and amusing how every kdrama beyond 60 min becomes tiring but this 90 min per episode Taiwanese drama doesn't even make me realize where all the time goes. It is so so good. But I know it definitely isn't for everyone as it is a slow, calming show watcged best before sleep. But I applaud everthing in it from the writing to the seamless past and present transitions and the beautiful actors and diversity. Most of all I think I love the unique accent they are speaking in.

Extraordinary you: It is good but maybe this weeks episodes were lesser good than the previous one.

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Thanks for your comment on Yong Jiu's grocery store. It's on my radar for a while but the subs seem to take a long time. I will wait until it's completed.

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I guess only one episode is left now. It has been really good so far.

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Oh thanks! I will watch it during winter holidays.

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The subs do take a long time on this show, but it is worth it.

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Tale of Nokdu: So before episode five I wanted to talk about Jo Soo-hyang and how I've missed her... But damn, this show is HOT. Jang Dong-yoon needs to stop playing perfect, beautiful characters because it's too much for my heart to bear.

When the Camellia Blooms: This drama loves taking a character you liked and throwing them under the bus - I've never once had a consistent thought on Hyang-mi, I just can't figure out whether I like her or not. That applies for the others too. Except Ja-young. She continues to be the heroine I need.

Extraordinary You: Show, I adore you, so I REALLY didn't want to do this, but... you're starting to get on my nerves. Stop taking my heroine and having her dragged around like a rag doll. Why would you even give me such a perfect heroine if you were going to toss all her agency to the magical fate-changing men? I continue to be obsessed with this drama, but the gender politics are starting to make me crazy.

Love That Makes You Cry: @cloggie, I picked this one up for you, and I like it. Not loads, but I like it. Two episodes left, and I think my favourite thing is Ibuki's transformation, from the optimist to the hardened corporate tool. It broke my heart when he didn't remember the old lady he cared for so much in the earlier episodes.

Kemono ni Narenai Watastitachi: @noobita, I can finally give a verdict. Although I don't think it was as good as some of Akiko Nogi's other dramas - Nigeru wa Haji or Unnatural, especially - this drama was a treat. It's one where I didn't understand how much I'd enjoyed it until the end. I loved the immorality of it - not meaning that the characters were bad, they were just different. It's the kind of drama where everyone hardly bats an eye to promiscuity, which was kind of refreshing. The character development is the best I've seen in ages, and the soundtrack was gorgeous.

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@frabbycrabsis,
Re CAMELLIA. I am a big fan of Yeom Hye-ran who is playing Ja-young (Attorney Hong). She is giving a terrific performance. It pleases me to see so many positive comments about her.
I loved her in LAWLESS LAWYER, LIVE and LIFE.

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I forgot she was in Live! I think she's wasted playing mother characters, to be honest, she's so charming.

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I adored her in LIFE!

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Re: Extraordinary You
SAME I mean why does she have to be dragged!!?

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It's so sad - she's a quirky, charming, unique new heroine, and yet she's subjected to the same treatment that has existed in dramas for years! People better start respecting her or I'll break my computer.

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It's true she was often dragged but she dragged them too. She is pretty strong in the shadow.

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I've been desperate for a Ja-youngxDong-baek drinking session since her failed attempt in ep 8 and was bummed it didn't happen this week.

I mean, really, it's about time the women who already run the town start hanging out at Camellia instead of the men for a change.

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Yes! Oh gosh, that's what the drama has been missing this whole time. Ja-young is potentially Dong Baek's greatest chance of an ally in this town now, and the show isn't using it!

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They've started to hint at it happening down the line, I swear, but I'm getting impatient! Hopefully the Hyang-mi revelation doesn't keep Ja-young away for too long.

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Extraordinary You: I like this drama a lot but for me Ha Ru is the least interesting character and Dan Oh less interesting around him.

When the Camellia Blooms: I think I'm enjoying this drama the most right now despite finding almost every character annoying. Poor Pil Gu. I knew DB's mom was faking. Hyang-mi is such bad news.

My Country: This might be the first saguek where I find the political maneuvering the most interesting part. Things I dislike: Sun ho, the romance and the twist with Hwi's sister. I get why they did a time jump in Episode 5 but man, time really stood still lol. I did like Hwi's 1392 version of a detective/serial killer wall.

Pegasus Market: Moon Seok-goo is so earnestly foolish it's hilarious that the Daema group guy keeps trying to enlist his services as a spy.

The Lies Within: Lee Yoo Young is so good but the investigation team is so bad.

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Agree re. ExtraOrd U. Haru is a somewhat colorless character up until now but perhaps it’ll change now he’s more than a nameless extra. That said, only 2 weeks left until it ends - will there be enough time?

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There are 16 episodes or 32 demi episodes. We have not reached the middle of the drama yet.

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I love Haru’s character lol (Not face of coz he’s handsome)

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I love, love Graceful Family. I could list all the things I enjoyed about the show but that may take a while.

I loved how consistent it was even to the end. There were no sudden character reversals. The baddies were baddies to the end, unapologetically so. I wasn't even worried when they couldn't find Ms Han. Running just wasn't her thing.

Pathetic Wan-soo oppa was pathetic to the end. He was never fully evil but never fully good either and that made me feel sorry for him. I would rather be one or the other.

Picasso's dad was useless to the end. He never had any real power and even though he sure thought so and that was his thing till the end. Picasso's mum. Hihi. I'll forever be grateful for her brand of crazy.

I want to be Suk-hee when I grow up. It takes guts to own your crazy the way she owned hers. Her theme song has become my own and I'll definitely be watching what will hopefully be well-written roles in her future.

The hero was a good guy to the end so yay consistency but let's just say I like 'em a little bad. Maybe if they'd put him in a leather jacket once? Oh well.

I will sincerely miss the Fish Family.

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*Spoilers* Come to think of it, the birth secret is kind of icky. It means that Suk Hee’s mother had an affair with her father-in-law (old Chairman Wang) while she was married and her mother-in-law was still alive. Her mother-in-law committed suicide later (based on ep14 conversation between Ms Jung & Suk Hee)

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Don't think so. Suk-hee wasn't her biological child. She just pretended to have given birth. So who was her real mother? I missed that.

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They didn't name her. Ms Jang said that the mother died so Ahn Jae Rim took Suk Hee in as her own.

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That's right. The biological mother was Grandfather's lover and never named. She's just a plot device. Even Suk Hee didn't seem curious about her.

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I think the birth mother died in a car accident or something like that.

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Speaking of car accidents, I don't remember the "accident" that crippled Grandpa among the list of Ms. Han's crimes. That alone should have been enough to put her away for 10 yrs. Can't believe that she could be living well again four years from now. Small price to pay for the wealth she surely accumulated while operating above the law.

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My Country: 7.0 (D)amnesia again. I forget everything else.

Pegasus Market: 9.5 Day 4 & 5
: watching a bunch of kids being obnoxious is not my idea of fun, but the payoff was LOL. Then I had to look up "muk". And somebody sure knows how to kowtow to modern-day royalty :)

Vagabond: 6.5 Lost a lot of points for an ending to day 9 that was unbelievable even by their standards. Team of assassins with orders to take out 2 targets and anyone who gets in the way doesn't take the chance to take out the targets and the two who are in the way. Sigh.

Leverage: 6.8 Kim Sae-ron has been great in the past, but it's been a while since I saw her in anything I really liked, so... Now *slightly* disappointed.

Melting Me Softly: 6.3 Have gotten tired of the TV executives. Got a big kick out of the current and 20-years-ago ways to study, because even the 20-years-ago was was newfangled for me.

Tale of Nokdu: 8.0 All those assassin widows... Hmmmm, did their assassin skills have anything to do with their becoming widows??? Were their husbands practice? Graduation exam?

When the Camellia Blooms: 6.5 So many people are making "Don't be a joke" comments it's like the Joker is a committee. If it isn't a bunch of them together, show deserves to lose points for being too manipulative with false leads.

Running Investigators: 3.0 Story moves too slowly with filler conversations. Even if you want to cover socially relevant subject you need to do it better. It didn't help that this week's subject has been covered by other kdramas.

Extraordinary You: 6.5 What has less control over the story than a supporting character? A viewer. And instead of scene changes with an odd sound effects and gaps in memory, I wake up to find that the scene has changed and I don't recall what happened while I was asleep.

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I checked the first ep of Leverage (mainly because of the actors)... and I'm not sure I will continue... the "one file only and no back up" cliche turned me off a lot. I may still check ep 2 with a (naive?) belief they do have a back up plan... and for Kim Kwon 🙂

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@lordcobol
I get that CAMELLIA's structure may not be to your liking.

However, @chandler and @purebristles noted this week - CAMELLIA is not the usual drama structure where viewers are given the inside scoop. If the writer wants us to interrogate the entire social response to family (and e.g. single mothers) - this simple suspission makes us do that without noticing. That mechanism makes us hyperaware of each character's growth and their hypocrisies - even the incidental ones -because we are so focused on questioning every characters motivations.

As @purebristles put it so beautifully:
..."film as a narrative medium, shows real mastery of the the craft of scriptwriting for tv where you force the medium to bow to the best way to tell the story"...

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I've been wondering if "don't be a joke" is a commonly used phrase in Korean that I just haven't been aware of before now. So many characters have said it! Kind of like "do you want to die?" Is a commonly used phrase.

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@csmith
Communities often develop their own sayings.

There are some amazing stories about over-winter Antarctic station. Particularly one year when the 1940's version of "Pride and Prejudice" became a thing in the camp (100+ times during the year).

The relief ship arrived only to find the entire station speaking to each other in a Jane Austen-esque manner - full of "elaborate courtesy and fine verbal flourishes". Apparently even just asking for the butter would elicit an entire courtly scene - 'Such affability, such graciousness - you overwhelm me!'

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@laica, you summed all my issues with Camelia and wrote it so much better than I will ever do.
I didn't have much time this week so I didn't catch with new episodes, mostly finished The Fearless and it was very satisfying watch, slow paced but without big dip in quality and really nice acting. Other than that American TV season started and I must admit I'm pretty disappointed by Nancy Drew unnecessary dark, heavy inspired by Veronica Mars, from new shows I'm really liking only Stumptown

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Vagabond Bobbybond Hungrybond!!!

Nothing makes sense to me in VB land and I'm just rolling with it. I have no clue what's going on with the politics and plane crash though. I'm too focused on other things. Kekekeke.

My Rock Candy ship has sunk and I'm fine. I hope writernim stop making out of place romcom scenes in the drama and force a love triangle. It is seriously not needed.

I lol-ed that Vagabond is a code name for a chicken shop . That was unexpected and Kim Sun Young as chicken place owner was a good surprise!

Dalgun Monkey King remains undestructible. His resilience is otherworldly. It's amazing. Not amazing for NIS though, they are of less skill and appear not smart. Lol

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Graceful Family: I still need to watch the final episode so I’ve been avoiding DB, but @mary I agree that this kind of makjang trend needs to continue. Especially if it keeps giving us kick ass women on both sides of the good/evil spectrum.

I could have done without one poorly written storyline though.

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@laica you summed up exactly how I feel about When the Camellia Blooms. While I still find myself watching it every week, I’m still not quite sure where to put my finger on what’s not clicking.

Extraordinary You has been a great watch for someone like me who doesn’t like high school dramas, but I must say that I’m more interested in the questions surrounding the setting and getting less invested in Dan Oh and Haru as individuals at the moment. But all in all, still very excited for the ride!

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Tale of Nokdu The little Aeng is so funny! She likes food and handsome men, she's the best :p

Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency I hope the King won't become a villain :(

When the Camellia Blooms I didn't watch it yet.

Extraordinary You My favourite one! I love Dan-Oh! She's so cute with Haru :D

Secret Boutique Only one episode...I hate sports.

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life The jump time was pretty sudden.

Bye bye Vagabond

My Country: The New Age It gives me the feelings to watch a movie (without end). I like the action, the politics, the humor, the relationships, the dialogues, everything! In Gyo-Jin is unrecognizable.

The Lies Within Lee Min Ki! The only one who seems to know what he's doing.

Melting Me Softly I will watch the next drama of JCW because this one I can't anymore...

Treadstone It looks interesting :)

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NokduWatched a bit of last week's ep. Couldn't find my funny bone.
Extraordinary YouI was looking forward to this week's episode but ep 9-10 - I don't know how to feel about it. It's like A3 became F4 and I'm not talking about paper size. Mostly I blamed it on my distracted state but I'll definitely get back to this one.

Currently on ep30++ in my Untamed rewatch. A rewatch should be simpler, more like watching in background and it's not. If anything, this rewatch is even more intense and emotional.
Now that I've read more of the novel, I am amazed this drama was even produced and gotten past the censors! Granted they pitched it differently but did the censors overlook the source? Definitely not complaining!

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The original source for Bloody Romance was an SMBD web novel. I read a couple chapters translated by a real person; one of the worst things I've ever read. Execrable. I'd love to be on one of those pitch meetings. "Here's this novel. We'll take out 99% of the sex but keep the fighting, secret births, sexual tension, and frustrating female leads. How does that sound?"

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I didn't watch Bloody Romance.

The Untamed novel is actually excellent. It's just rather explicit in some of chapters. Taking out the sex scenes doesn't make the story lesser. The producers did a great job in making it a bromance drama but the awesome acting and many subtleties stayed true to the novel.

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The Beanie love for Untamed is strong. I can see trouble ahead if I start it now, is it might interfere with work and family. I'll need to save it for winter break or when there's too much snow to go to work.

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Extraordinary You Episode 6 - what pretty much takes up my time. By the time Wednesday comes till the weekend, I do nothing but spazz and rewatch and watch more BTS. Thank you MBC for the goodies! Love you.

Graceful Family Episode 16 - my makjang drama is finished 😢 I’ve got two gripes about it. I overlooked a whole lot because of this drama. Because, really, It’s not meant to be dissected and it’s a mindless watch. All sorts of makjang stuff happened here but that epilogue. That darn epilogue. I wish I hadn’t seen it! I hate that even in dramaland justice system is so effed! The TOP cult is mind blowing. And the other gripe is about the first son. I’ve said my piece about it on at reply to a fanwall post. Not gonna repost cuz it hurts and it’s gonna make me angry more. I could have overlooked that too and keep in mind that this is my mindless watch but I loved him...... and i didn’t want to love him after that reveal.

Arsenal Military Academy - It’s finally on Viki! I can finally watch on a bigger screen, my laptop. I’ve been watching this on my phone because iQiyi doesn’t have a desktop app for English shows. They’ve subbed up until ep 8, but I am starting episode 24!!!!!! Oh wells. I’ll just rewatch this show on Viki and perhaps finish the show on my phone. But aaaaaaaah my heart. Gu Yanzhen has my heart ❤️ I’m supposed to feel sorry for his heartbreak, but I can’t, lol, cuz he’s making me laugh so much. 😂Xiang Xiang, please notice him more. bb has his heart on a silver platter for you. Definitely loved their moment in Beijing. Yanzhen came to town to see her and that dance... that dance that was cut, but was shown in his flashback. I’ll be forever bitter about it.

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The Tale of Nok-Du
Still enjoy the comedy but the romance feels a bit off. Wish they'd pick up the pace and speed things up a little bit. It would be great of they go by the same speed as Yul-Moo when he ran away from Nok-Du.

Extraordinary You
The drama should be named 'Secret' (but Extraordinary You is still awesome) since there're loooots of secrets in this manhwa world. I found myself obsessed with everything this drama offers. Even Baek Kyung, he does get on my nerves all the time but I can't completely hate him. Part of it because Lee Jae-Wook acting and visual. Another part is that his character setup is quite interesting. Now I understand how a pushing-pullinh relationship feels like.

<Variety Show: Problematic Men
Just binge watched 2019 episodes. Why did I just come across this show? I love puzzle solving and watching Ha Seok-Jin solving those puzzles makes it even better. Also, I never find Kim Ji-Suk attractive but he is such a smart cutie here.

When Camellia Blooms
Start ep1 and stop there. It's not that it's not good but Extraordinary You has occupied all of my time, heart and soul. I'll check back when EY ends.

One thing to complain though. I already subscribe to kbsworld and usually get broadcast of kbs2 ongoing drama but I have to pay for extra 2 different plateforms to watch Nok-Du and Camellia. This is unfair.

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EXTRAORDINARY YOU Give us Haru back! I don't want to have Baek kyung be given a redemption arc next week because Haru is absent and he has been an horrible character the entire drama his mom dying is not an excuse and\or poor writing. Is JMC going to disappear too? I hope to see Juda and the main characters becoming self aware next week, see how the dynamics would be affected. AAah This drama is driving me crazy ><
TALE OF NOKDU the poltics are completely lost on me especially because I have no prior knowledge of king Kwanghae but the rest is still a delight to watch, Nokdu running after YM is the best part and I suspect he was a little disappointed when Nokdu said she gave up on him LOL.
CAMELLIA I'm a little behind on the story YS is the perfect male lead and the second lead is an annoying idiot thank you show for not giving us SLS for once.
MELTING ME SOFTLY: Ji Chang wook my dear even your pretty face won't convince to continue this drama. I might still watch Clips on Youtube but that's it for me.

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Still watching and loving When the Camellia Blooms. That episode in which everyone was saying "Do not be a joke" was really smart and hilarious! Wow Hyang-mi is totally scary but I'm really enjoying what shes doing!
I'm also watching Lucky Romance for Hwang Jung-eum. I just love her! Its quite crazy and strange, but it gives some laughs!

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1. When camellia blooms - I just sheepishly grin whenever Yong Shik is on screen. Kang Ha Neul definitely chose the right post army comeback project. He portrays Yong Shik perfectly. I just hope that whoever Joker is, he is not someone that I will care about / someone close to them.

2. The Lies Within - ah, Lee Minki. A different character than Beauty Inside and Because This Is My First Life. I honestly didn’t finish Beauty Inside as I feel like I was watching the same Lee Minki from BTIMFL, cold, aloof. Even the way they speak is the same. But here in The Lies Within, it’s a different characterisation. Lee Yo Young is a great actress and I’m loving Lee Minki’s dynamic with his two subordinates. 2 episodes in, and a little early to say whether I’m gonna love it or hate it. It has the Secret Forest vibe to it (political, murder mystery), so I’ m still looking forward to it.

3. My Country, The New Age - ah, the one drama that I didn’t expect to reel me in. I am not a huge fan of sageuk but this, this keep me on the edge of my seat. The war and fighting scenes was a high quality production. Most importantly, I cannot imagine how the story will unfold and that’s what keep me watching more. Give me more of Yang SeJong and his sad eyes! 😚

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I am glad that Tale of Nokdu is only one episode because I am caught up.😂🤣I love the chase and two kiss scenes of Nokdu.

Extraordinary You: Behind two episodes

Graceful Family: I am only up to episode 8.

My girlfriend is Alien: I have three episodes that I need to watch.

Nine Kilometers of Love: Backburner for now.

MY country: When I have time. I will watch it.

Peaky Blinders: Hubby and I are up to watch episode 3. This show is still really good. I am loving the Peaky family. It is also good the actor who played cousin Michael use his original accent here then at Animal Kingdom. He use his America Accent.

Temptation Island season 2: My hubby watch this train wreck. Why is this train wreck is funny and good. LOL At least, we watched it together.💗💗💗

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Pegasus Market 3/5 I can't find words to describe this show. It's utterly hilarious xD

Secret Boutique That last scene with Sun-woo and Hyun-ji made me want to see more of them. Even if they don't become a couple, I'd like to see more of their friendship.

Extraordinary You Writer-nim, can Baek Kyung stop being so angry? Puppy is starting to becoming a dog that's barking nonstop. Anyways, now that Baek Kyung is self-aware and it looks like he will continue to be a jerk, fighting Dan Oh! Take back Haru and take control of the manhwa.

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life It's only the start after the time skip so nothing's happening yet except for people from the past to start meeting again. Currently watching because of Kim Jae-young ;)

Graceful Family 10/16 Uhhmmm, I wouldn't actually call it transgender Ms. Han. Nice try Show.

Since I'm watching Graceful Family and Secret Boutique simultaneously, I sometimes get confused with the chaebol family.

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I can’t enough good things about My Country. This isn’t your mom’s sageuk and it isn’t your kid sister’s sageuk either. It’s fast paced, every bit of dialogue is gripping and “boring” is the very last word I use would describe it. Just watch it. I’m fast becoming Jang Hyuk’s biggest fan and he’s not even a traditional lead. However, I would disagree that he’s not a lead either; he adds nuance and depth to Bang-won that isn’t traditionally there. You can see how much he wants his father, the king’s, approval but how cut-throat he is at the same time. But Woo Do-hwan and Yang Sejong are exceptional too. They’re all good. Just watch it.

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Jang Hyuk to me, is like Gong Yoo to you. Haha. I went on a watching spree for his dramas and movies for a short while. Can’t say I’ve watched them all though, I’m not a good fan as you are, but he’s totally my Ahjussi crush. 😝 Glad you are enjoying him. (That sounded wrong, but you know what I mean 😝)

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It makes me happy to see you’ve become a new fan of Jang Hyuk. ^_^ ❤️ He’s seriously one of my favorite actors ever.

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@rueffie omg I started Graceful Family and I LOVE IT!!!!!

I’m on episode 3 and my own regret is WHY did I start this so close to bedtime such that I can’t marathon more episodes. And WHY do I actually need sleep in the first place. And WHY did I say I need people around me- right now I want time alone to this drama. LOL. I’m probably the only one here who wants the weekend to end so the Boy goes back to school and I can watch the drama in peace. I’m such a bad mom. LOL. Oops.

But damn. It’s cracktastic and going to save me the wait till I get the next episodes of Nokdu.

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😂🤣 It's soooo crazy right?! But the good kind of crazy. Lol you're not a bad mum. Just think of Picasso's(Fish) mum and you'll feel better.

Also...ahem...you don't need sleep. You may look and feel like a zombie afterwards but it's ok. Just blame the Fish Family and I'm sure people will not think you're crazy.At. All.

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🤣 when I start blabbing to the husband about a fish funeral he’s going to think I’m high on my pain meds 🤣

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See! You even have a get-out-of-jail free card!😂

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Extra-Ordinary You
Yong-giu Grocery Store
Asaki YumemishiViki updated their interface, I hate it. They pat themselves on the back and say they listened to viewers. Who are you people ?🤔🙄 A visual nightmare, jumbled the hell up . Just deal with it until the next “improvement”.Starting a new,(another) job Monday, fulfilling orders for on line grocery shoppers. I’ll still do the event staffing thing at night. I worked a political rally yesterday and a comedy show earlier in the week. The comedian asked that all cellphones and smart watches be locked in a case. Worked with a outfit, (Yondr), to accomplish that, first time I’d seen that. It went surprisingly smooth, no hiccups there. Nice crisp fall weather here, working a craft beer festival at the oceanfront today, I’ll bundle up. **Dramabeans could really use a preview button, please🙏

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Extraordinary You Devastated that Haru disappeared while Dan-Oh was in the hospital. What will happen next?! Kim Hye Yoon is killing it. The role requires so many different expressions that have to flicker across her face as we switch from shadow to stage to shadow and as there is growing uncertainty as to what is going to happen next now that the stage is changing.

Tale of Nokdu I was guffawing thinking about how the whole Nokdu-pursuing-Yul-moo thing looks to everyone. Was hoping to stretch this scandal out into a running joke. I sort of wish they hadn't jumped to the kiss and the reveal to Yul-moo so fast since I'm worried now. Will Yul-moo become part of their team or will he become an obstruction (he seems to be someone of influence...).

Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung Halfway through. I'm loving it. It feels like a cross between Sungkyungkwan Scandal and Miss Hammurabi. The comedy and Cha Eun Woo's acting are a bit rough, but there is a charming earnestness eminating from the drama and the actors that is irresistable.

Be Melodramatic Picking this up on and off. It is in that weird but likable category. I love how it takes us into the workings of the tv/drama production world (the editor who "angel edited" Eun-jung and So-min will have be side-eying all similar talk/variety shows now...). My favorite bits have got to be the PPL stuff. And that shampoo song has been stuck in my head all week.

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Your Shampoo Scent in Flowers is going in the OST Hall of Fame for me. It’s so good!

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The maniacal "angel editor" had me laughing on the floor.

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I feel like maniacal "angel editor"s should be the next "it" profession showcased in dramas.

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Only if he plays it.

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Extraordinary You: I’m enjoying this SO much. I’m on the edge of my seat waiting for next week’s episodes. COME QUICK WEDNESDAY! I need my Roswoon/Jaewook fix.

When The Camellia Blooms: Seeing Pilgu sob like that broke my heart. I want happiness and stability for him!! It’s the very least he deserves! We’re about 2/3 of the way into the drama now, and I really want to see a breakthrough with the case! I’m still on team Heungshik as the Culprit, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the show had more in mind for us!

Miss Lee: Is anyone even watching anymore? I’M SO TIRED OF EVERYONE’S TERRIBLE ATTITUDE AND MANNERS. JESUS. Would it KILL THEM to speak respectfully to Sunshim? It really gets on my nerves, I’m a hair’s breadth away from dropping it.

The Tale of Nokdu: Jang Dongyoon is such a gift. I’m mad we were robbed of an hour this week, and demand we get three next week (I’ll keep dreaming 😂).

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I think we might just get one episode of Nokdu next week as well. There's yet another baseball match. 🤦‍♀️

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Sob, sob, sniff, sob. :'-( I am fearful of that, too.

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I think Camellia has 20 episodes (or 40 half episodes) so it is exactly 1/2 of the drama

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CAMELLIA BLOOMS: At this point, the murder mystery does not interest me. It was annoying to have multiple characters say the same Joker line to amp up the number of suspects. JR's motivation to get back with DB is dumb. He is acting the same way (annoying, self-centered, childish) before DB left him. Why isn't he at home supporting his wife (who is more childish than he is) or taking care of his daughter? He is the one running away from his problems, not DB.
I wish this bad story arc would end sooner than later.
BEAUTIFUL LOVE, WONDERFUL LIFE: I think the time jump was terrible. It added confusion to where the characters are in their lives, what they have been doing/coping for the past 9 years, and why time will not heal old wounds.
PEGAGUS MARKET: The non-stop craziness is starting to slow down as the uplifting moral theme takes center stage. I did not think that the show could keep up its surreal Monty Python comedy for the entire series, but it feels like the writers are about to shift to worn tropes of an office romance, and dry corporate politics.

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My Country (3 & 4): 💗💗💗 Hwi needs better hair! He looked totally dashing at battle fields! Gimme that look back! Kidding aside, thank you, beanies, for all your wonderful comments and history lesson in recaps. I enjoyed it immensely. 🤗
Tale of Nokdu: 💗💗The show keeps showing me flashbacks that I can NOT NOT care about what happened in the past. I am gullible that way.
The Great Show: 💗 I finished it!
When the Camellia Blooms: 💗 PG scenes always get to me. I am glad he is a good and smart kid, but he just has to bear SO much due to the immaturity of his parents.
Extraordinary You: 💗💗 I want him back! BK, I have not warmed up to him, but looks like the show is going to make him evil. Well, no cookie for you then.
Secret Boutique: 💗💗 What is Jenny's end game? I have a feeling she is planning to destroy herself along with her enemies. I'll be sobbing along with puppy when that happens.
Pegasus Market: 💗💗 Every week I think to myself.. They can't top the craziness from last week, right? RIGHT? And I was proven wrong E.V.E.R.Y.T.I.M.E! I've never enjoy someone's failure as much as I enjoy Bok Dong's.

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Re: Secret Boutique: I had the same vibe :(

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Watching :
Tale of Nokdu
Extraordinary You
Arsenal Military Academy

Just completed :
Youth Over Flowers Laos

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I'll just be over here luxuriating in the fact that we have SO MANY good dramas to enjoy right now - its been ages since I've had multiple shows where I'm dying for the next episode. *happy sigh*

(special shout out to extraordinary you for killing me softly)

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I decided to drop MELTING ME SOFTLY and WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS. The former isn’t getting good reviews by beanies (and the first episode wasn’t what anyone was expecting, I think). As for the latter, I didn’t care for the first episode, and didn’t like Gong Hyo Jin’s character. I’m assuming it carries on the same vibe for the later episodes (I only watched the first one), and if so, I wasn’t drawn in.

Currently Airing

EXTRAORDINARY YOU: Episode 8 finally grabbed me. And by that, I mean hook, line, and sinker. Ha Roo is adorable, and he better end up with our girl. On a side note, this drama is really nailing the whole early high school vibes for me. I don’t think anyone had an A3 in their school, but the way the students interact seems to be spot on. (ep. 5-9)

TALE OF NOKDU: I had high hopes for this drama when I first heard about it. It’s not quite meeting them. It’s by no means bad, but the politics is wonky. I could care less for the scenes with Nokdu’s family. I pretty much just watch to watch Nokdu and Dong-ju interact and see them attempt to hide his identity. (ep. 6-8)

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Joseon Flower Crew - I am watching this, but I'm still not sure why - maybe because the leader of the flower crew has such a magnificent deep voice? The two female leads do nothing for me, but still I watch it. sigh..
Nokdu YES this is so much fun. But the little girl, no matter how much she steals the scene is still annoying to me. The plot is moving around so much I can't keep track. But the main leads and the widow's village are worth it.
Camelia - I like this show mainly for the pure and eager Young Shik. Somehow I am hoping against hope that the bracelet on that wrist at the beginning is a red herring and it really isn't her. Personally the bar maid is the one who makes me most nervous. Clearly, mom doesn't have dementia but what is she hiding?
Extraordinary You - While this isn't the crack for me as it is for so many I'm still enjoying this and the interesting storyline. The Fairy is quite suspicious to me and I think he has something to do with the writer. Baek Young is clearly very damaged and doesn't know what to do with his feelings about his awful dad. He has some serious anger issues, but I think (hope) he will turnaround.
Vagabond - I just had to watch and see how they finished the surgery what the heck was that????? My eyes got tired from so much rolling back in my head. What embassy has no guards - really? I find myself wondering "who in the world writes this stuff?"

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continued...
Pegasus - THIS is my crack show. Between hair-growing car wax, twisted sister wanna-be bands, dancing sheiks, sunflower masks, MUK, bunny ears, pied piper leading all the rude kids to the rival store, an earnest, but ever faithful store manager and the ever-constant "SATU" I find myself asking
"Who in the world writes this outrageously wonderful stuff?"
Note, the second time I ask it, there is a smile on my face.

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Pegasus is crazy and absurd done right (have I mentioned this show is insane?)! 😋 But I am more impressed with last week's episode 4 where it shows how Bok Dong cares for his employees. He may hire all of them without much thoughts, but it's touching how each of their story had touched and changed him. I am also getting a kick out of his I-want-to-die face whenever his employees showered him with praises after yet another failed successful attempt. He is now at an idol status in the eyes of his employees, and I can't wait how he's going to step up his game.

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But it is done so insanely RIGHT!!!
Bok Dong seems to be slowly but surely falling victim to his own magic of making things better instead of worse. He seems to be loving it despite himself.
Looking forward to seeing the grandson fall under his spell as well.

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My wife and I are almost to the end of GRACEFUL FAMILY- it dominated our viewing this last week. After episode 14 we at last have an explanation for why her 'father' dislikes the female lead.

We also enjoyed the fourth episode of PEGASUS MARKET. Mary is right about the increasing amount of heart that we are seeing in that show.

I think that I agree with Laica about WHEN CAMELLIA BLOOMS. In particular the writers seem to be having a great deal of difficulty with the character of the male lead

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Hello Beanies,

This week I want to ask if anyone can tell me what happened after the fish funeral in Graceful Family ? I dropped the show because I don't like company politics and it was mostly just that and lots of boring characters. If you can, please tell me the short version of that makjang!

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@laica my feelings for the MCs of camellia match yours & its the primary reason why I dropped Camellia.

I'm watching Extraordinary You. I like it a lot but it has issues galore. Objectively 5.5/10. Subjectively 9/10.

Just finished The Liar & his lover & despite all the things wrong with this drama, I quite enjoyed it. It was more character driven than plot driven, & I didn't think there was much to the characters to begin with but still it was addictive in that Wattpad kind of way. I guess had I been 14 I'd have given it a 9. As much as I enjoyed it & marathoned it straight, I give it 6/10 objectively (direction, acting, plots, law🙄, pacing) . Subjectively I'd say 8.5 considering I picked it up randomly at ep 12, marathoned till 16 last night & went back to watch 1-13 today.
For me the marker of a good drama is that its interesting from whoever random point you pick it, & it keeps you entertained & glued to it. That was one of the few criterias of a good drama it fulfilled, & fulfilled them well.
A headache free drama; if one is bored, likes pretty faces & wants good osts then this is a good choice.

Have to catch up with My country, Nokdu, GF. Also a few episodes of weekly idol...

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finally, after a long time, i felt like i watched reasonable amount of episodes:-)
My Country: The New Age...i'm loving this show so far...feel so bad for both Hwi and Sun-ho...since the father, Jeon, is such a tyrant father, i don't get how these two even became friends in the first place or remained friends till things went south...Sun-ho knows how ruthless his father can be, so maybe he knows he has to become more ruthless than him so that he can keep Hwi & Yeon alive, i could be wrong about this bit but i felt that from few of his scenes. Isn't the music (not the songs) very global fusion type...i'm liking it though. btw, does Woo Do-hwan always play these type of roles that has some negative characteristics, as i saw him for a bit in tempted and sweet stranger previously?
Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency: so, while i'm just noticing Kim Min-jae for the first time, i really like the character of Ma Hoon...i feel bad for the king, his situation is so unfair but i hope he becomes powerful and finds happiness...i can't decide who should get the girl! i didn't know Park Ji-hoon prior to this but he is owning this role...can't imagine anyone else doing this role...his expressions are on point and they give these funny music to them, and his habit of getting the wrong phrases are so cute:-)
The Great Show: the last two episodes had few emotional scenes...i actually ended up liking this show.
Graceful Family: i'm so happy that i watched this show...it's over the top but binge worthy:-)
When the Camellia Blooms: everyone seems to be watching this one so i thought let's give it another go, but i just couldn't:-(
Vagabond: each week i think i will drop but i end up watching LOL
Melting Me Softly : few scenes i laughed but overall i doubt i would recommend this show...love Ji Chang-wook and Won Jin-ah as actors but not their characters!
I Wanna Hear Your Song: its ok.
W (2016): i read such mix reviews about this one but i finally started this show:-) so far all good...
Signal (2016): stopped watching for a bit but catching up once again.

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Finished the great show
Started and completed 100 days my prince in 3 days
Tale of nokdu,that kiss was wow. Shirtless nokdu was everything. Little aeng du was just crack. I can't accept one episode this week. I miss it
Vagabond, go hae ri is Suzy's best character. She's the best and her high five is cute.
My country, is seo hwi dumb or what. How can he continue to trust that his best friend after he was told his best friend sent him to die. And getting close to bang won to betray him?? Stupid move
Melting me softly, I don't really trust na young. Still waiting for when her best friend son would start working at the broadcasting station with her and dong Chan reaction. I quite like this drama. Its stupidly funny.
About to start Power

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In Camellia...I feel she is extremely insensitive to Jong-ryol. She didn't tell him about his son and then treats him like a sperm donor when he finds out. She disparages him constantly and treats him as pathetic. He is somewhat, but hey, he had no idea he had an 8-year old son and is bound to make mistakes. So, on this subject, she seriously makes me mad.

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Korean: TALE OF NOKDU. Now shipping the two male leads as the OTP after that kiss.
EXTRA-ORDINARY YOU: Started to drop it but liked the music too much.
Chinese: STANDING IN THE TIME: Why do I usually like the ones with low-ratings? Deals with publishing industry/proofreading. Sucked me in with the storylines of plagiarism and textbook errors (esp since that happened with my daughter's geography textbook in elementary). And the usual "all with the one I love".
UNTAMED: Never let it go. Such an emotionally engaging drama, no other drama has the same intensity, beautiful relationship and best character OST and BGM - ever. Listen and watch every day.
Taiwan: YONG-JIU GROCERY STORY. Beautiful and sweet. How can you not like the OTP listening to John Denver's "Sunshine On My Shoulders" while snuggling on the couch together.
HISstory 3: Just gotta watch those HISstories, you know.

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MY COUNTRY Ep 2-4:

An enjoyable watch so far. My heart is not quite as invested as I want it to be, but it's holding my attention and the cinematography and OST are good. I like Hwi and Hee-jae. Lost respect for Sun-ho.

LITTLE FOREST (the movie):

Finished watching this. I don't have much to add to what I said last week. Nothing spectacular, but a decent watch that made me reflect. I would have liked to see the romance develop more, but I understand that wasn't the point of the movie.

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Finished:
Dear My Friends - The first kdrama I have ever rated 10/10! How can a show didn't feel like one? It felt like someone's life was playing right before me, and that I could see myself in all of that sequences. Bawled my eyes through all the episodes because some of the story hit too close to home. The characters are so rich and real, and I dunno following the life of elders can be this fun. It's uncommon to see them portrayed in how they should be: a young spirit at heart. I wish for more show like this, and I look forward to Noh Hee Kyung's other drama.

On-going:
Extraordinary You - After all the hype that are the first 4 ep, unlike the majority of beanies here, I was a bit frustrated with ep 9-10 and 11-12 (except for THAT ending). Here's why.

1) The shift of focus: The last two ep is lacking the zippy manhwa mocking scenes, especially contributed by our Dan Oh! She's like a fodder character here. While I appreciate it when the focus is spread evenly, I felt that rather than evenly, it's more like Dan Oh is swept aside and show gives her an 'extra' dialogue and mannerism instead. Please compare this to the first 4 and hopefully I was just being super fickle.

2) Shifting the extra to main: This point might be contradictory to the first one, but what I can remember mostly from these two ep are the triangle of Dan Oh, Haru, and Kyung. It happened more than once, Dan Oh and Haru hangs out, Kyung interfered and started making a piss out of it. Dan Oh reaction? The typical female lead in shoujo tropes; widen eyes, tighten body language, and the inability to cut some slack into Kyung with her snarky remarks, which she often blurted out in the first 4 ep. I hate triangles, but I do expect it here because it's particularly a teen show, but I wish they'd make it different than Jeo Da and her suitors' scene. I wish for more fun in their triangle scene, but it's so frustrating to see both Haru and Dan Oh fleeing the scene rather than making fun of Kyung x)
But ep 11-12 is much better, because it seems like the focus will get back to Dan Oh again, and of course our Haru (T_T)

I can at least see how this show will annoy me at best, but I'd still watch it for the casts, so yeah, I'm enjoying the ride, although I can't help my nitpicks, since I really like this show a lot.

When Camellia Blooms - The dialogues are gold in this show. With their on-point portrayal of the characters, I think these two are what keep me hanging for more ep. But the ending to each ep always gets me, because of how possible the death of one of our main leads is.

Others: Pegasus Market, My Country, Miss Lee, The Lies Within.

On a different medium, I just watched Howl's Moving Castle and it helped me cure from Dear My Friends. The world is so colorful, beautiful. Simply breathtaking, with an exciting characters. But I'm also following The Handmaid's tale, so I guess I'm off to this grim journey on-screen...

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Extraordinary You
I'm always intrigued by meta-structure storytelling, so I'm already sold by the story of characters inside a manhwa gaining awareness and trying to change their narratives. The lead female character is great fun - she's sharp, has great energy and gumption. The male students are all very pretty, and it's funny how they're making the tropes obvious too. The mechanisms of using a stage vs shadow, the sound effects - all very cleverly thought out.

Secret Boutique
I just binged on this to catch up. Always been a fan if Kim Sun-ah - she nails the role of a strong, determined and smart woman - and she looks amazing. I want to be her when I grow up. Hyun-ji and Sun-Woo are fascinating characters. I hope the writing stays tight all the way to the end.

Healer
I'm having an indoors period so I binged on this again too. Every time I watch it, it never fails to impress me. The plotting is so well-constructed, the characters so intriguing, and everything unfolds narrative-wise and pays off. Tropes are pushed beyond tropes to have plausible psychological underpinnings, and so many clever details that make this world fascinating. And all the characters are fantastic, not just that Ji Chang Wook is at his best in this, ever.

Empress Ki
Off the back of Healer, I started watching Empress Ki (loosely) as it's got so many episodes. Some shots are amazing, production values were high - but some bits feel a bit dated in style and shot. For some reason, characters keep flipping tables laden with food (urgh!) but still quite enjoyable.

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I cant take my mind off EXTRAORDINARY YOU, so this week's episodes fall a bit short for me. If only we can get 8 eps each week! 😅
I think next in line to be awaken would be Kyung, but that boy has gone too far in the abusing dept, he shouldnt have his way. Haru on the other hand, is the complete opposite of Kyung. I wonder what will he bring to the table next week! Do Hwa...our precious Do Hwa...I wish him happiness. Truly. That Juda girl is not on par to him, to be honest. She is being wishy washy with her sayings. One moment she says that Do Hwa is her guardian angel...but the next moment as the poor boy express his feelings, she's on her way to chase Namju. The girl is selfish, on and off scene.

FENGSHUI
I watch this as I wait for EY, but it turned out to be a good movie. I wish there were more. Recommended!

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