That’s it!
I want to be a Rooftop Room Dweller! 🙃
My fellow Beanies, short of spending every waking hour on DB and losing gainful employment in the process, what must be done to get this random lottery of desirable levels to work in my favour?
😁
In my case I think its the missing connections, because, I have excellent scores and a great college records with a Masters to boot.
It must be my family background. The chaebol family will not let me level up.
I think there is something wrong with the formula starting at Errand Boy.
I don’t have time to write up all my evidence (don’t even really have time to write this) but I have been keeping records and here’s that short version just mentioning upvotes….
It took 32 for me to go from Candy to Jang Geu-rae.
Then 74 more (106 total) for my next promotion.
Skipping a few levels, it took 1310 new thumbs up (4,247 total) for my promotion to Errand Boy.
Mostly, promotions took less than twice as many new upvotes as the level before. The number of new votes for each level was mostly lower than the total votes for the previous level.
But, while running those bleeping Errands, my upvote count has gone from 4,247 to 14,148. More than tripled.
Start graphing and plotting a curve and this stands out light a sore thumb.
Looking at numbers for the lucky few who have gone higher, I see Rooftop Dwellers with 15,000-odd upvotes. Hmmm. Errand still stands out in the graph I haven’t plotted yet.
Things look a little different when I count total posts & followers, but Errand stiff stands out.
The full version of this (which I will probably never have time for) will include all 3 of those factors, with lots more data on me and other Beanies, with an attempt to calculate the relative importance of upvotes, total posts & followers, and finally some guesses on the relative importance of the mystery factor(s) that we don’t see in our stats. (There plainly must be some mystery factor or “DB Staff” couldn’t get so high — probably something about articles written and the number of people who reply to your posts, comments & articles.
Time to go……
I had to chuckle at this detailed report riddle with frustrated sarcasm. ha ha ha. It is appreciated. Also, yeah, in light of this, I might as well just stay content in my Errand-running. Gainful employment is of much more value. Thanks, Lord Cobol.
I don’t think there is a simple math. I think they are calculated engagement for a consistent period of time or something more complex. Here are some errand boys & their stats
comments||likes||You FOllow||Following you @anothernicole
2,622||7,366||165||127 @kethysk
2,674||6,333||133||96 @mayhemf
3,193||9,556||65||74 @yyishere
4,243||7,928||69||97 @lordcobol
3,466||14,153||41||107 @fay17
2,592||4,485||59||49 @gmelenco
2,606||6,334||17||33
I agree that engagement is probably a factor. Every other time I’ve levelled up, it’s been after a period of time when I was making a concerted effort to post every day. I’d try and post at least one wall post every day (with a gif) and write some kind of comment on every article that DB posts. I suspect that commenting on the articles earns us more “points” than wall posts.
Yeah it’s not just numbers. I remembering having higher stats than other Errand Boys who got to a rooftop (like 15,000 upvotes and was still a freaking Errand Boy!). Currently I have higher stats than @outofthisworld, for example, but I am still stuck at the rooftop while she has moved on to loan shark. 🤷🏻♀️
All I know is that it gets harder to get upgraded as we go higher up.
Thanks for posting this! Wow, I’ve also lost myself in the mystery of leveling up. Being a forever Errand Boy, I’ve just given up on trying but decided to let fate determine my next destination in life.
To get hired as errand boy: it took me approx. 1600 comments/6600 likes.
It took me approx. 3900 posts/15200 likes to jump from errand boyhood to my cozy rooftop mansion.
Looking at my stats…I think @lordcobol will be in a rooftop anytime now. Maybe DB is doing the final touches for the interior design and building a massive playhouse for the cat. 🐱
As of writing this…I have 5297 posts and 19942 likes. Let’s see how long it will take to join the K-mafia and be a loan shark. 🦈
Okay, I’ve been on the rooftop (la dee dah) for a long time, at least 6 months and my stats are currently (in Lord COBOL format):
4249 – 7525 – 16 – 56
Which I point out not to say again that I think I got there by mistake as much as to say, I do think @yy might be getting screwed (as she has long suspected). Or there’s really something big hiding in the secret sauce 🤔
Sigh. Lots of typos in my comment above. “light a sore thumb” -> “like”; “Errand stiff stands out” -> “still”. Was in too much of a hurry preparing to take my cat in for his annual check-up / torture-session. (He’s fine, and ageing better than me).
Upvotes is the cleanest statistic we see, although probably not the most important factor.
Total comments/posts is tricky because our totals include comments on the old site but I’m not sure if they count towards promotions.
Followers gives an ever-flattening curve once you get to the point where everyone who is likely to ever follow you has already done so. But feel free to follow me anyway 🙂
The “X” factors are especially bad because we only know them by their shadows. Go look up the stats on “DB Staff” to see a total eclipse of everything.
One thing that stands out in my notes is that total-comments counts for a lot. People who outrank me and have FAR more total comments include one Rooftopper with 11,957 (as of when I took that note) and even an Unemployed Slacker with only 16,792 – not much considering that’s 5 levels beyond Errand.
Yes, each level is supposed to get harder. My question is how much harder per level.
Separate from the difficulty of each level, I don’t much like the (apparent) heavy emphasis on total comments because it could seem to reward people who spam lots of low-quality posts. Upvotes seems like the best measure among those we see, because it reflects quality more than quantity.
Full disclosure: I have about 4 times as many upvotes as total comments, so I might be biased but I try to make the kind of comments that people will appreciate.
i’ve also wondered if the weight of the comments is a factor. like do comments or posts that generate a lot of discussion (replies) earn more points? i feel like very early on (early on in the new site days) someone hinted at this. unfortunately i cant remember the context or who it was. but for some reason it stuck with me. if levels are meant to gauge contribution to the website then posting things that garner discussion seems like it might mean more?
Not to be snarky but I know of a few users who have gone as far as typing one sentence per post for 10+ posts (or filled the Beanie wall with a plethora of images), just to then post about their stats. 😕. I mean, to each their own but… 🤔
You high ratio/high quality post people all move to the same newly renovated expensive neighborhood don’t you? I think my low rent rooftop room used to belong to a poverty stricken orphaned high school student. No wonder @egads has a slew of errand boys running her errands all day while I’m having triangle kimbap and soju with a bunch of exhausted errand boys.
Well it’s been a year & half that i’ve been a Eunuch in drag and i’m still waiting for the darn prince to recognise me so i can then look for my chaebol doppelganger.
I have been an errand boy forever and ever. I have given up. Once in a while I cry and post snarky comments about my lot in life. That’s about it. Another day, another scooter ride. The lights just turned green. I must be on my way.
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 8:27 AM
That’s it!
I want to be a Rooftop Room Dweller! 🙃
My fellow Beanies, short of spending every waking hour on DB and losing gainful employment in the process, what must be done to get this random lottery of desirable levels to work in my favour?
😁
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 10, 2019 at 8:43 AM
Comment too many times (like I am now).
Blue (@mayhemf)
September 10, 2019 at 8:45 AM
I think am going to be an Errand Boy for life!!
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 9:16 AM
essentially. see Lord Cobol’s nifty calculation below.
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 10, 2019 at 11:21 AM
Typical S Korea lack of social mobility 🙂
Without good exam scores and a degree from a top university you are screwed.
Blue (@mayhemf)
September 10, 2019 at 11:52 AM
In my case I think its the missing connections, because, I have excellent scores and a great college records with a Masters to boot.
It must be my family background. The chaebol family will not let me level up.
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 10, 2019 at 9:02 AM
I think there is something wrong with the formula starting at Errand Boy.
I don’t have time to write up all my evidence (don’t even really have time to write this) but I have been keeping records and here’s that short version just mentioning upvotes….
It took 32 for me to go from Candy to Jang Geu-rae.
Then 74 more (106 total) for my next promotion.
Skipping a few levels, it took 1310 new thumbs up (4,247 total) for my promotion to Errand Boy.
Mostly, promotions took less than twice as many new upvotes as the level before. The number of new votes for each level was mostly lower than the total votes for the previous level.
But, while running those bleeping Errands, my upvote count has gone from 4,247 to 14,148. More than tripled.
Start graphing and plotting a curve and this stands out light a sore thumb.
Looking at numbers for the lucky few who have gone higher, I see Rooftop Dwellers with 15,000-odd upvotes. Hmmm. Errand still stands out in the graph I haven’t plotted yet.
Things look a little different when I count total posts & followers, but Errand stiff stands out.
The full version of this (which I will probably never have time for) will include all 3 of those factors, with lots more data on me and other Beanies, with an attempt to calculate the relative importance of upvotes, total posts & followers, and finally some guesses on the relative importance of the mystery factor(s) that we don’t see in our stats. (There plainly must be some mystery factor or “DB Staff” couldn’t get so high — probably something about articles written and the number of people who reply to your posts, comments & articles.
Time to go……
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 9:16 AM
I had to chuckle at this detailed report riddle with frustrated sarcasm. ha ha ha. It is appreciated. Also, yeah, in light of this, I might as well just stay content in my Errand-running. Gainful employment is of much more value. Thanks, Lord Cobol.
Blue (@mayhemf)
September 10, 2019 at 10:16 AM
I don’t think there is a simple math. I think they are calculated engagement for a consistent period of time or something more complex. Here are some errand boys & their stats
comments||likes||You FOllow||Following you
@anothernicole
2,622||7,366||165||127
@kethysk
2,674||6,333||133||96
@mayhemf
3,193||9,556||65||74
@yyishere
4,243||7,928||69||97
@lordcobol
3,466||14,153||41||107
@fay17
2,592||4,485||59||49
@gmelenco
2,606||6,334||17||33
another woodalchi nicole recruit
September 10, 2019 at 10:21 AM
I agree that engagement is probably a factor. Every other time I’ve levelled up, it’s been after a period of time when I was making a concerted effort to post every day. I’d try and post at least one wall post every day (with a gif) and write some kind of comment on every article that DB posts. I suspect that commenting on the articles earns us more “points” than wall posts.
WishfulToki
September 10, 2019 at 11:05 AM
Yeah it’s not just numbers. I remembering having higher stats than other Errand Boys who got to a rooftop (like 15,000 upvotes and was still a freaking Errand Boy!). Currently I have higher stats than @outofthisworld, for example, but I am still stuck at the rooftop while she has moved on to loan shark. 🤷🏻♀️
All I know is that it gets harder to get upgraded as we go higher up.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
September 10, 2019 at 5:56 PM
@wishfultoki
DB probably thinks I’ll make a good loan shark by turning my debtors green in their face. Your toki is unlikely to have the same impact.
WishfulToki
September 10, 2019 at 8:07 PM
@outofthisworld you may have a point. I’m way too cute to be a loan shark. 🤣
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
September 10, 2019 at 8:19 PM
@wishfultoki
On the other hand, they might just willingly give you hearts.
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 10, 2019 at 10:44 AM
Okay. I just laughed my head off seriously.
Mel
September 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM
Thanks for posting this! Wow, I’ve also lost myself in the mystery of leveling up. Being a forever Errand Boy, I’ve just given up on trying but decided to let fate determine my next destination in life.
Kairoskat 💐
September 10, 2019 at 1:57 PM
To get hired as errand boy: it took me approx. 1600 comments/6600 likes.
It took me approx. 3900 posts/15200 likes to jump from errand boyhood to my cozy rooftop mansion.
Looking at my stats…I think @lordcobol will be in a rooftop anytime now. Maybe DB is doing the final touches for the interior design and building a massive playhouse for the cat. 🐱
As of writing this…I have 5297 posts and 19942 likes. Let’s see how long it will take to join the K-mafia and be a loan shark. 🦈
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 5:53 PM
😅😂 I love how serious we all are about this.
bbstl 🧹
September 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM
Okay, I’ve been on the rooftop (la dee dah) for a long time, at least 6 months and my stats are currently (in Lord COBOL format):
4249 – 7525 – 16 – 56
Which I point out not to say again that I think I got there by mistake as much as to say, I do think @yy might be getting screwed (as she has long suspected). Or there’s really something big hiding in the secret sauce 🤔
bbstl 🧹
September 10, 2019 at 5:04 PM
Hmph, why didn’t it pick up @yyishere?
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 10, 2019 at 5:19 PM
*whispers* It’s. A. Conspiracy. What I have long suspected.
Kairoskat 💐
September 10, 2019 at 5:47 PM
@yyishere you need to hire NIS to help with this conspiracy…specifically Ki Tae Woong aka SSR from Vagabond. Hahahaha
bbstl 🧹
September 10, 2019 at 6:13 PM
@yyishere
😲 I know!!! I thought the same!
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 5:57 PM
The stats are out!
It’s reassuring to know that I’m not the only soul worrying about the Beanie status. Serious matters, here!
🤣🤣
(for real though, thank you so much for all the comments, people. It’s good to have online camaraderie over meaningless things. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 10, 2019 at 10:44 AM
Omg I am laughing so hard now. Seriously
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 10, 2019 at 11:36 AM
Sigh. Lots of typos in my comment above. “light a sore thumb” -> “like”; “Errand stiff stands out” -> “still”. Was in too much of a hurry preparing to take my cat in for his annual check-up / torture-session. (He’s fine, and ageing better than me).
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 10, 2019 at 12:13 PM
Upvotes is the cleanest statistic we see, although probably not the most important factor.
Total comments/posts is tricky because our totals include comments on the old site but I’m not sure if they count towards promotions.
Followers gives an ever-flattening curve once you get to the point where everyone who is likely to ever follow you has already done so. But feel free to follow me anyway 🙂
The “X” factors are especially bad because we only know them by their shadows. Go look up the stats on “DB Staff” to see a total eclipse of everything.
One thing that stands out in my notes is that total-comments counts for a lot. People who outrank me and have FAR more total comments include one Rooftopper with 11,957 (as of when I took that note) and even an Unemployed Slacker with only 16,792 – not much considering that’s 5 levels beyond Errand.
Yes, each level is supposed to get harder. My question is how much harder per level.
Separate from the difficulty of each level, I don’t much like the (apparent) heavy emphasis on total comments because it could seem to reward people who spam lots of low-quality posts. Upvotes seems like the best measure among those we see, because it reflects quality more than quantity.
Full disclosure: I have about 4 times as many upvotes as total comments, so I might be biased but I try to make the kind of comments that people will appreciate.another woodalchi nicole recruit
September 10, 2019 at 12:18 PM
i’ve also wondered if the weight of the comments is a factor. like do comments or posts that generate a lot of discussion (replies) earn more points? i feel like very early on (early on in the new site days) someone hinted at this. unfortunately i cant remember the context or who it was. but for some reason it stuck with me. if levels are meant to gauge contribution to the website then posting things that garner discussion seems like it might mean more?
bbstl 🧹
September 10, 2019 at 5:07 PM
It’s working (your comments, I mean).
And I never thought about people padding their stats by, ummm, being overgenerous with themselves on the wall. Very interesting. 😉
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 5:51 PM
Not to be snarky but I know of a few users who have gone as far as typing one sentence per post for 10+ posts (or filled the Beanie wall with a plethora of images), just to then post about their stats. 😕. I mean, to each their own but… 🤔
bbstl 🧹
September 10, 2019 at 6:15 PM
😯
I’m so naive!
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 10, 2019 at 9:34 PM
You high ratio/high quality post people all move to the same newly renovated expensive neighborhood don’t you? I think my low rent rooftop room used to belong to a poverty stricken orphaned high school student. No wonder @egads has a slew of errand boys running her errands all day while I’m having triangle kimbap and soju with a bunch of exhausted errand boys.
parkchuna ❤️🍉
September 10, 2019 at 5:30 PM
Well it’s been a year & half that i’ve been a Eunuch in drag and i’m still waiting for the darn prince to recognise me so i can then look for my chaebol doppelganger.
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 10, 2019 at 5:32 PM
I have been an errand boy forever and ever. I have given up. Once in a while I cry and post snarky comments about my lot in life. That’s about it. Another day, another scooter ride. The lights just turned green. I must be on my way.
KSKalways
September 10, 2019 at 5:48 PM
Hahahaha
another woodalchi nicole recruit
September 11, 2019 at 6:42 AM
i feel like we should start a concerted campaign to level you up.