Beanie level: Errand boy

Not been around much lately (and been lurking when i am around), not been watching much, lately, either…mostly buried by Real Life. but anyway, emerging just a little to say hello and that, funny/cheesy/awkward as it may seem, i really have missed you, beanies ♥♥♥

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Beanies! I need help remembering a drama…I literally JUST saw it…like within the past few months, I think. The scene I\’m trying to place is in a coffee shop, a cute one, with a big table by a window. And the male lead buys the table for the female lead. I think he puts a plaque on it with her name on it, too. basically any time she is there, she can sit at that table and look out that window; other people have to move for her. it\’s her table, etc. Does this ring a bell? I can\’t believe I can\’t remember, because I feel like I *JUST* saw this show.

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Final Thoughts about HPL (Spoilers)
– I’m happy with the ending. It was cute. It’s not the best ending I’ve ever seen, and it didn’t quite leave me with all the feelings I wanted (or even nearly as many feelings as most of the episodes), but I’m happy with it. It was fine. It wrapped things up well enough and followed 15 episodes I really enjoyed (fine yes even you Ep8. I give you your status back.)

– I wasn’t sure who Eun-gi would really end up, but I knew it’d have to be Choi Da-in or Cindy…I’m glad it was Cindy, honestly. Would watch that spin-off in a heartbeat. Her character is one I disliked at first but really came to enjoy. Wish we had gotten more of her AND HER MOM <3. And I know a lot of people didn't care for Eun-gi, but I liked him throughout, so…

– The dad and his rocks. I love it. I love it so much. In the middle of Ep15 there is a shot of him caring for rocks, and I wondered if they were contrasting it with caring for someone who can be hurt. But I was even more pleased with the story about Deok-soo's hand. I cried at this, I'm not going to lie.

– The Deok-soo connection came out of nowhere (and it felt a little too intense for the rest of the show) but then, it did for Deok-mi, too, so….And honestly, I am happy that the rest of the show was more about our couple than Deok-soo and their childhoods, so no complaints from this memeber of the audience. (A more critical viewer could complain, and i'd have to respect that, though. I know there's room for it.)

– Themes I loved in this show: hands (holding them, healing them, creating with them, etc), mothers (and by extension family and friends…what determines who we are to one another, etc), art, people, how we show affection, the "objects" of our affections (emphasis on object; pun intended).

– Now just waiting around for the report that KJW and PMY are together for real, don't hate at me—i love my little fantasy world (sorry JCW i will find you someone new).

Annyeong. Still one of my favorite moments in a drama ever. <3

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    For PMY’s sake I hope there’s no scandal 😭 – the last one really seemed to take a toll on her emotionally based on her interviews, and also K-netz are gonna jump on her for having two dating rumors in a row after her drama ends
    I do think they’d be so cute together thoughhhh <3 KJW is a dream

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      KJW is a dream indeed!
      By that logic, I hope there’s no scandal too… but I’m also just gonna imagine they’re “secretly” dating IRL without the public’s knowledge. huhuhu

      I don’t really ship people IRL, but their chemistry is amazing!

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    I know it wasn’t perfect, but I loved it. He’s wonderful in this and there was no noble idiocy. Yay! I don’t ship anyone in real life. I want them to find the right person for them, who ever that might be.

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I honestly really liked HPL15…well, the very beginning was a little too sweet, but the rest of the episode worked really well for me. That being said, I know there\’s room for critique, but I\’m just going to tune it out for now and be happy about it. *guilty sheepish grin*

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    Dont feel guilty. I liked it too and I’m glad it hasn’t been cut down to less eps. I’d rather they’d focus on her fangirling over his brother instead of all these lost boys, but…..🤷‍♀️

    I loved that bday scene and wish we’d get more.

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I don’t know if you’re familiar with a website called “The Wayback Machine,” (https://archive.org/web/), but it’s a website that basically keeps an archive of what the internet looks like at random intervals. (It takes a screenshot, sort of, and stores it.) You can go through the wayback machine’s calendar and see what a particular webpage looked like, “way back when,” as it were.

I tell you this because one of the archived pages I found in the wayback machine was…the original list of beanie levels that DB had posted. The definitive list. The whole enchilada.

Pics are below, but before you scroll down, decide for yourself if you want to see all the levels; I don’t want to destroy the suspense if you are loving it. (Many thanks to @modernflapper for providing me with the exact link!!!!) (cc: @sicarius @greenfields @ally-le @neener @nightmoon)

(I have to admit, I was a little sad to see that the list sort of has an ending…I wanted it to keep going forever! Although, given how long it’s taking me to get out of Errand Boyhood, maybe it does go on forever, in essence. Heh. And who knows, maybe they have it set up so they can add more!) Anyway, without further ado:

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So I have some thoughts on Her Private Life, but they are all disjointed, and if any beanies have some similar insights or can help bring some sense to all this, I would absolutely love to hear it.

Overall it seems like the show is trying to say something about the line between art and people, objects and humanity, and the feelings we have for each and both.

• Deok-mi\’s fangirling isn\’t of the violent/abusive kind, but it\’s still an objectification of Si-an. My favorite evidence of this is the fact that you can look at him but not touch, hehehe, like he\’s a painting in her museum. But also, she\’s made tons of pieces of art of him. She\’s literally turned the boy into art.

• That pairs well with the fact that she\’s also an art curator—a person who collects marvelous objects for others to admire and appreciate. (I appreciate so much that the show avoids the \”loves art but can\’t relate to people\” trope. This isn\’t a show trying to draw a line in the sand; it\’s not even making a hard-and-fast rule. She has great relationships with her BFF and family and with her fan-friends.)

• Another beanie pointed out that as Deok-mi\’s relationship with Ryan develops, we see less of her fangirling over Si-an and more of her adoring Ryan. Some of that is just because the show\’s a romance, of course, but I think there\’s a message in it, too. (Interestingly enough, Ryan teases Deok-mi, saying how he wants to be her fanboy, which would imply seeing her more objectively, but I think that\’s just a cute line, not to be taken too philosophically.)

• Si-an has his own arc, too; he starts out as an idol to Deok-mi and a means-to-and-end (the paintings) for Ryan, but he forcibly makes himself more human to Ryan, coming over unexpectedly, chatting genially, etc. As the arc progresses, he becomes pretty much as close a human to Ryan as another human can be (brothers). Deok-mi may still be his fan, but she\’s also now his cohort (helping with the show, helping to reconcile Ryan and the mom). Si-an completes his arc (up through ep 14 at least) by reaching full personhood to both Ryan and Deok-mi, I think. I like that Si-an is, in effect, a rebellious piece of art lol.

• The paintings themselves: First, the fact that they were painted by an unknown person…they are art without a person, in a way. But the show revolves around the search for that person. The person behind the art. And when that person is found, these objects end up humanizing Lee Sol to Ryan and allowing him to connect to her. (I like very much that some of these paintings have to be restored.)

• Something should be said about the late photographer and his last picture; the anneyong photo. That\’s a piece in this puzzle, for sure, somewhere…

Am I making any sense at all?? Well, anyway, just some thoughts. If you made it this far, then thank you!

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    great analysis and well-written!
    (yes, it all made sense)
    🙂

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    All of the art pieces (and I include the people in this) begin as 2 dimensional objects. Admired for how they look, their shine, their color. But now we’ve reached the point where we see the depth and dimension in the art. The photos were a foreshadowing of this: there is always more than just what we see.

    For many episodes, I’ve been talking to the screen and asking them when they were going to look at the reflections in the bubbles. The clues were there, just distorted.

    Also, am I the only one to think that Ryan’s apartment is almost as if he is living inside a bubble? All those blues and with the gold accents. The way the light hits him, and other objects. Just me?

    Even Deok-mi’s father’s rocks. To some (and I would be included in this) they are just big old rocks, but as we learned when he talked about them with Ryan, they are much more.

    Her mother’s knitting is another form of art in the drama. Yes, its’s a bit kitschy, but it also provides warmth and color to their home. And, as we saw when she gifted the sweater she was knitting to Cindy, it is an expression of acceptance and protection.

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      (a mere like isn’t enough to show you & anothernicole how much I appreciate your takes and analysis on the show, the two of you brought out beauty that I hadn’t noticed. Thanks.)

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      yes! this is it! i knew there was some sort of key i was missing, and i feel like you’ve hit it. thank you thank you!

      so, then, to continue digging into this, would it be fair to say that the show overall is a commentary on our role in art—and relationships? the responsibility(?) we have to humanize both. when we humanize art, we ourselves are enriched. the same with human relationships. (i’m suddenly reminded of seon-joo’s story: her husband who does love her, momentarily uses her as just an object–for his art, even—forgetting their humanity, and that threatens their relationship.)

      Am I taking it too far?

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        I think what it may be trying to tell us is that art is something to be admired, but not necessarily in a reverential manner, but rather to embrace it as a something that is alive. We should live with the art. Not just see it, but feel it, try to understand the humanity beneath the surface of it. Art is more than the object. There is always something living and breathing beyond it. I mean, we may not understand or like it, but it’s there.

        Even Cindy’s little project is making the art something tactile that the museum patrons will literally be able to touch, arrange, and make it something of their own.

        Seon-joo and her husband are an interesting pair, and I think you’re onto something there. By commodifying her as an object for his own art in a grab for the sake of professional ambition, he forgot both his wife’s true value, and what he values in his own creativity. And I think in a way, the show is giving us three stages of a relationship. Deok-mi and Ryan’s glossy newness, Seon-joo and Seung-min in a crossroads that many couples find themselves in after a time, and Deok-mi’s parents, who appear to have little in common, and we probably wonder if they are together only out of habit.

        Now that I think of it, the drama itself is also humanizing Kim Jae-wook in a manner that I don’t remember seeing him before. There is no denying the utter aesthetic beauty of the man, but we are now seeing him for a funny, cuddly, and downright more real person than I’ve seen before.

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      also YES TO THE BUBBLES. i was so frustrated trying to get closer looks to see what was in them. i just assumed there was some message or clues in them.

      sidebar: deok-mi’s dad and mom, with their respective hobbies, are the undertold story in this drama. there is a wealth of richness there that could be explored and im always disappointed when they end up just as a grumpy-married-couple trope. i have secret high hopes that the orphaned little boy is some sort of key to their relationship’s trajectory for some reason, too. and their respective obsessions.

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        I was really hoping they would dig more into Deok-mi’s parent’s hobbies, which are to be frank (and I say this as someone who has done fiber crafts/arts for decades now), seen as low-brow, and not really art with the capital A. But they are passionate and creative in their creations too. They express love just as the photos and paintings do. They also, much like the photos in the early episode, as well as the bubble paintings, are expression of love that are, in a way, both reflection and deflection. If that makes any sense. All of the arts here, both separate the artists from their family/loves and yet are expressions of their feelings for them. I may be over thinking this.

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          not overthinking it at all (or if you are, i am too <3). i think their hobbies are deliberately chosen for the reasons you say. knitting can be seen as sort of "an old woman's craft" and stands in contrast to the highbrow art of the gallery. but as you say, textiles are passionate and creative and as old as painting, too, i would think.

          the rock collecting is my favorite though. He obsesses over rocks and his daughter obsesses over a rock star. i'm dead. i think its a tongue-in-cheek reminder that rock stars are not rocks, that they are people (unlike rocks). but there is another level, too, and that's that rock collecting is a legit hobby too–with passion and creativity, and for all that rocks are not human, the way the dad feels about them is part of what makes him one.

          (human, that is. even though the mom kinda treats him like a rock. oh halp. rabbit hole.)

          ps. is it too much to say that rocks are also sort of the opposite of bubbles in a way? i don't know how significant that is; just a thought.

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            Rocks, rock stars, I’m also dead. LOL.

            I think we’ll learn more when we find out exactly what the childhood connection is.

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          Good grief, I just realized Deok-mi’s parents are literally using sticks and stones as shields.

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still an errand boy…forever an errand boy.

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teeny tiny detail: i kinda wish Si-an had known or guessed who Ryan was, and that’s why he moved away from his band members and into those apartments. it’s a little TOO fateful for me as it is.

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this is the gif i didn’t know i needed. i literally have been watching it forever now. every single person in this gif is doing something interesting. Bae Doona steals the show at first, of course; and then Cho Seung-woo is where your eyes go next. Then there’s my girl Shin Hye-sun who just wanted to finish a photoshoot on time for once, you guys. Lee Joon-hyuk is amused…and also about to get bumped by Bae Doona? Hard to say for sure, but the one and only Yoo Jae-myung is ready with the block, just in case.

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So I’ve had something of A WEEK this week, but this morning my husband casually remarked (a propos of nothing), “Well, it’s Wednesday.”
What’s that? Wednesday? Wednesday, you say? Well, well, well, things are looking better already! 💕💕

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I\’m not too far into it, but My Fellow Citizens is hitting all the right notes for me right now. Exactly what I needed—and I hope it stays this way!! *fingers crossed*

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me after watching HPL 11 and 12.

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I don\’t know if any beanies are involved in the Viki English subtitles for HPL, but I just want to give a shoutout to that team. They are doing an amazing, incredible job at getting good subtitles up SO FAST. hats off to whoever they are.

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    I think PMY has a few dedicated translating fans as I’ve rarely had to wait for her drama translations.

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A few thoughts on HPL 11:
1) The Ryan-removes-his-watch scene (for lack of a better term) that we previewed after episode 10 was even better than I thought. I honestly hadn\’t considered what kind of dialogue would go there, but what they did was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT to me. just the cutest thing ever.
2) I\’m really interested in Seun-joo\’s story now, too. Her logic as to why her husband did what he did was spot on, and I thought it was awesome to have her say all that point-blank.
3) I care about the Lee Sol painting mystery only because it means less Ryan/Deok-mi angst. I will put up with a lot of silly art/past story nonsense as long as we get more cute. Good trade.

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    about 3: I really like what they are doing with the narrative here. Instead of constructing idiotic reasons for the couple to temporarily break up as a way of creating drama, they seem to have gone the route of creating external challenges that the couple can face together, while growing stronger in the process. The fact that there has been little progress yet in terms of exploring the lee sol and hyung/donsaeng connections means that they have enough material to not need artificially engineered problems just to fill the 16 eps (or is it more?)

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      i agree. i worried at the end of Ep8 that they were going to pad the rest of the show with (as you said) “idiotic reasons for the couple to temporarily break up as a way of creating drama” and i’m so glad that one blip of noble idiocy/miscommunication (whatever it was) really was just a blip. this show is doing a great job of showing two adults in a relationship.

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    Regarding Ryans past and Lee sol painting. I do agree it is very used story line. But I guess this time I don´t mind as it give Deok mi opportunity to learn his secret as her secret gave him opportunity to get to knew her on a depper level as it strengthen their bonds 🙂

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IT’S WEDNESDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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for the record, this is literally the only place on the internet i can handle being right now—well, this and the places that show the dramas 😏

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I’m in the mood for a very particular kind of drama, and I have no idea what might fit this description. Any ideas, dear beanies, are most welcome. So definitely historical (time travel is ok too) with some royal politics shenanigans. But also a strong romantic plotline. (I feel like a lot of times the romantic plotline is underdone and the court politics are overdone…I’m wishing for a more balanced plot) It doesn’t have to be a comedy, or even overly comedic, but I don’t want a sad ending. Any ideas? Kdrama, Cdrama, whatever.

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has anyone watched The Flame\’s Daughter (Cdrama on Viki)? Any good?

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    It’s not a particularly bad or particularly good drama 😐 It’s like a typical wuxia drama but simplified a lot more— none of the super complicated and convoluted character relationships that need a character chart to explain 😅😅😅 The leads, male and female, are pretty… very pretty 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

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    I agree with @bebeswtz for the most part but I gotta admit, I was pretty done with the main lead guy by the end of it.

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      Yea, watching it on Viki with the comments on was brutal… A lot of viewers just weren’t feeling it between Dilraba and Vic Zhou and were basically bashing him (like, actually Vic, not even his character ☹️) all throughout the drama that it was a bit much so I had to turn off the comments… It didn’t help that many of the commentators are Dilraba x Vin Zhang fans, and Vin Zhang was just the second male lead in this one

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        Oh yeah, people can get a bit crazy on Viki in those comments. But that is too bad, they were ruining the drama for you!
        I’ll be honest, for some reason I’m a fan of Dilraba and Vin Zhang, but that wouldn’t be a reason for me to bask the main lead actor. I honestly just wanted to see her in another drama no matter her lead (which is why I also watched Sweet Dreams XD) but honestly I wasn’t feeling it between the two characters. I wanted her to be more with the disabled friend. I felt for his character way more than anyone else…

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I know some of the HPL OST is objectionable, but i love this song. it’s rainy here, and i just have it on repeat.

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and where do we talk about that preview. (incoherent sounds) #HPL10

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