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[K-drama Treasure Hunt] Food and drink that moves the plot

Welcome to the K-drama treasure hunt, where we all go looking for K-drama treasure in the form of tiny drama details that we know and love. Sometimes these details take the shape of well-worn tropes (oppa Band-Aiding) or storytelling devices (Top Secret Deadly Allergy), but other times it’s just details we know we’ve seen in other dramas, but need help putting all the clues together.

Each week we’ll put you on the hunt for a piece of K-drama treasure, and you can report your findings in the comments.

There’s no umpire in this game, so if you find the detail we’re looking for, drop the drama title (or even better, drama title + episode number) in the comments, and we’ll all take your word for it. Or, we’ll go binge watch just to see it play out.

And remember, we’re here to map our way to the treasures not to the plot twists! We know how exciting as it can be to have all the hard-earned details stashed in your head, but let’s try to keep the spoilers out of the comments.


This week’s treasure:

Food and drink that moves the plot.

 
Your mission:

Locate and list all the foods and drinks that serve as a catalyst for a story. In the on-air drama Destined With You this takes the form of a love potion – accidentally ingested by our dashing male lead when it was intended for someone else. This trope can play out in a lot of ways, so all hijinks-inducing eats are welcome in this round.

 
Thanks @aicaramba for this treasure hunt idea!
 
Reference drama:

Destined With You (Episode 3)


 
Have an idea for the next treasure hunt? Email your topic to hello @ dramabeans.com!
 
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Let's Eat. /thread

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major second lead syndrome and intense rage that they replaced the female lead with the male lead in 2 & 3

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This show is very special. My very first K-drama and introduction to a whole new entertainment venue.

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I'll contribute one of the funnier parts of Heavenly Idol for this week's installment of the K-Drama Treasure Hunt.

When our "hero," the Pontifex Rembrary/Lembrary--recently displaced from his native supernatural world to be housed in the body of idol-visual Woo Yeon-woo--first encounters chocolate, he interprets it as "tribute."

When he then eats his first chocolate, he learns that it magically increases his supernatural powers in this, the most ordinary of worlds. Kim Min-kyu does a funny job at this realization scene in episode 2, giddily gobbling up chocolate.

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This was hilarious :) and Kim Min-kyu was excellent.

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You and I may be the only two people left around who watched this drama, @mrsbuckwheat!!! The others were chased off after so much difficult-to-watch plot mangling. 😊

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I stuck around to watch too ... I honestly thought the tributes would have a bigger role to play.

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I watched it too!! I enjoyed it much more than most Beanies seemed to, based on the chatter... I love Kim Min Gyu, and I think he's great at physical comedy 😊

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I made it through too mostly for Kim Min-kyu!

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👏 🤙

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Sigh, it started out so well but then spiralled out of control towards the end. Kim Min-kyu was excellent though and the high points were the comedic elements.
I wonder how the actors themselves feel when they pick a show that seems really good and promising, spending 6 months or more filming for it to them slowly come apart at the end through no fault of their own.

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If it was ‘food that never moved the plot’ it would be all the subway sandwiches across dramas.

For this one, I can only think of ‘Crash Course in Romance’. The food from the side dish shop reminded him of the warmth he received when he was struggling. And the female leads food helps him heal and regain his strength.

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As a corollary to that: if Soju was counted as food, we would have to list every single Kdrama ever made.

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Every.Single.One.
🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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Every.Single.One. 🤦🏼‍♀️

That’s a different Treasure Hunt, name the dramas in which drinking alcohol does NOT move the plot forward 😄

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speaking of the devil (aka subway sandwiches) one screenwriter actually wrote lines for them into a drama. like, they weren't just props. I forget the drama name, but the scene took place at police headquarters where the younger cop is looking forlornly at the older cop's lunch of a subway sandwich. He says something like, "When I was a kid, I didn't get to afford Subway. It's a dream of mine to eat more of them." The older cop feels guilty and gives his sandwich to him. See, I can forget the drama name and the storyline, but somehow I remember this darn dialogue.

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Jajangmyun in Wok of Love (Greasy Melo). Every episode. It's the food of love and our heroes are constantly making it, eating it, serving it to each other, and trying to outdo their rivals in making the best version around.

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This was exactly what I was thinking.

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Recipe for Farewell> The whole drama is about an ex-husband who cooks for his ex-wife who is sick. It was a beautiful drama.

I remember a lot of scenes of food but not the kind that made the plot moving forward.

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Now that you mention it, I wish the food in that drama did more for plot progression. There was one episode when the ex-wife's condition gets so bad she can't consume food without hospital care. The ex-husband says in tears, "I can no longer cook for her." I thought that was huge for the plot. He recognizes he's no longer a care provider but a man with a purpose watching that purpose die away. Other than that, the food was just glamour shots.

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Dae Jang Geum is Watching.
Three siblings with special powers always have to eat dinner together but that becomes almost impossible thanks to the FL.

The show is practically a mukbang tho. The first child is always eating in cure restaurants with the FL, the second bro is always at home cocking the special dinner and the second sis (twin sis) is always eating weird recipes she creates in a convince store.

And they all find love thanks to food.

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Fated to love you (2014). Episode 2?
A strong alcoholic beverage is the reason why ML and FL spend a night together in a resort in Macau and then... everything else.

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All the sageuks ever where someone drinks a poison lol.

Murderous peach (and fish of madness) in OUR BLOOMING YOUTH.

Probably not the example most beanies would find pleasant - for obvious reasons - FATED TO LOVE YOU. Leads end up in bed together thanks to a spiked drink, and the rest is an epic dramedy if I've ever seen one. Man, them feels that drama gave me! I didn't have as much issues with the premise as others did, but reappearance of the damned thing in the finale was totally unnecessary, that's for sure. Then again, knowing when to stop before jumping the shark has never been a kdrama writers forte...

A cdrama for a change, but TILL THE END OF THE MOON has a very strong and messy bond between its plot and food. Leads getting married thanks to aphrodisiac-in-a-candy caused one night stand - does this remind you of anything? lmao - check! ML starts to warm up to FL because she feeds - among of other displays of physical care - his starved since birth self - check! Certain arc has this trope IN SPADES: FL is named after a fruit wine and ML apparently loves him some sweet booze (very subtle metaphor, yeah), not to mention all the tempting apples she gives him as as a good xianxia Eve she is... Back to the main story, ML proves his devotion to FL by chocking on her godawful cooking on a daily basis, so masochistic manly of him))) And, ofc, one of the darkest moments in the whole saga happens due to a twice (!) poisoned porridge.

In conclusion - never underestimate the power of food, be it in life or a drama!

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Omg, how could I forget? FL of ARANG AND THE MAGISTRATE is madly into peaches, she wishes to be alive again just to taste them once more, if nothing else. While it does not move THE plot per se, ML uses peach gifts seduction technique very well, so in a sense those fruits do move OTP romance.

For more plot-relevant thing, red beans are used in the show as a weapon against ghosts and other supernatural beings. Maybe I should use this as an excuse to keep them in our kitchen since everyone in the house except me hates the stuff lol.

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LOL!! The peach and fish comment...hehehehe!!!

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"... never underestimate the power of food, be it in life or a drama!"

Truer words have never been spoken.

This reminds me of Bring it on! Ghost where Taecyeon's character cooks for the FL ... she is crazy about meat too!

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Not to say that I don't appreciate hot men who can cook, but, honestly, FL's who AREN'T a walking kitchen disaster of ridiculous proportions excite me much more. Probably because it's so rare, both back then and nowadays.

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Absolutely. I can only think of Ha Ji-won (in Hyun Bin's body) cooking for "Oska" in the Secret Garden and more recently Krystal in Crazy Love.

I think Gong Hyo-jin in Pasta or Park Bo-young in Oh My Ghostess can't really count as chefs. 🤣

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Oh... and Jung So-min in Because This Is My First Life and Alchemy of Souls, Season 1.

I'm totally drawing a blank for any other FL.

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PBY as DBS in STRONG WOMAN was a genuinely good cook, for once, even managed to move ML to - 100% happy! - tears with her skills.

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Oh yes!

Since there was so much discussion about "Boys Over Flowers" being a no-rewatch drama I am reminded of Gu Jun-pyo slurping the ramen made by Jan-di.

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While it’s in a movie rather than a drama, a peach allergy figures prominently in the plot of Parasite.

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ML in Crazy Love and SML in Our Beloved Summer were afflicted by peach allergy.

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Yoon Shi-yoon eating triangle kimbap in Hit the Top is an important plot point ... didn't you see him rhapsodize over it.

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In Shopping King Louis the killer is caught because of his shoe print in the coffee powder spilled on the floor. Yay for Seo In-guk.

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It wasn’t made into food/drink yet, but the precious wild ginseng did set the plot in motion with Bok-shil’s journey to the city.

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When I saw the "wild ginseng" plot in King the Land, I was reminded of Shopping King Louie.

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The Maxim Gold Coffee PPL in Shopping King was one of the best integrations of PPL I've ever seen in a drama 😂

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That drama is the reason I tried Maxim Gold and I was lowkey addicted to it for like a year.

I still maintain that Korea makes the best instant coffee in the world, whether it’s Maxim’s Kanu line and their other unsweetened coffees or the sugary bliss that is Maxim Gold.

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SAME!! I also tried Maxim because of Louis lol and LOVED IT.

I've yet to try Japanese instant coffee to compare, but I've been eyeing them at my local asian grocery store (so expensive though probably because of import taxes or something idk 😭).

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I got a box of Maxim in a care package, but didn't care for the taste. I have to say, doesn't Vietnam make the best instant coffee though? They're mild and very fragrant (and have unsweetened black option)

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And that dish of something... was it jangjangmyeon? The FL loved that dish that she had eaten being a child. And Hyun-Jae (YSY) first bought a dish for her (and never gave it) but later he took her to the same restaurant.

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Besides WOK OF LOVE, I would also give a nod to CHOCOLATE as cooking was part of a healing and acceptance theme.

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High Cookie While I haven't watched this yet - I think this cookie is crucial to plot development. I want to have whatever they are having

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I'd rather not tho, those cookies clearly have some iffy stuffing in them.

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Dae Jang Geum had whole dialogues, scenes, episodes, and plotlines around food and drinks. Barely one without some reference to food.

Wok of Love's storylines mostly happen around a few Chinese dishes.

Scent of a Woman, the fl's mother constantly asking for kimchi pancakes, one day when the fl is particularly low she snaps at her: What are you going to do when I'm gone?? Which leaves her mother dumbfounded.

Some answers will be spoilers. Someone drugging someone's herbal tea in Wild Romance! 😂

Seo Yul's eating in Chief Kim.

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In The Good Bad Mother I could smell the Bacon every time the pigs went up in flames (it was more than once).

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That was so terrible to me ☹️

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Ugh, why did you have to remind me of this😣

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I believe the Bad Mother also withheld food (and ate in front of him) from her injured son an attempt to force him to find a way past his injuries. Wow, that show.

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Absolutely terrible - left a bad taste in mouth (pun intended though it's as bad as the food plot of the bad mother in the show).

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Finland Papa was a café where the employees had act as a family and eat their meals together.
The café was set up by the ML so that the FL did not have to eat alone.

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Thanks for bringing this one up. Such a lovely show, eating with grandma was healing for the three friends during their childhood.

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In Business Proposal, the FL spends a lot of time perfecting a white kimchi ravioli recipe, which I’m still disappointed they did not release to the audience. The ML has her make it again and again because he’s miffed at her for spoilery reasons.

There are multiple ways to become a zombie in Kingdom and one of them involves eating a specific plant with a very creepy symbiosis.

The heroine of Extraordinary Attorney only likes to eat gimbap, and she uses some roundabout gimbap logic to find herself a loophole for one of her cases.

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But... you forgot to mention the best way Kingdom uses food and zombiesm!!! *cough* cannibalism *cough* 👀🤭

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Hahahahaha it legit did not even occur to me to mention the actual zombies eating people as "food that drives the plot" but when you're right, you're right! I also could have mentioned one of the other ways you can become a zombie - that stew at the beginning! *shudder*

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Okay YES ALSO THAT but! The stew, I meant the stew!!! hahaha

The fact that zombieism is first spread to the King through the flower, and a denial of death, but to the people, the common folk, through famine and desperation induced cannibalism, is very deliberate and also very fascinating.

It's interesting both because actual cannibalism, especially eating the brain, can lead to a fatal neurodegenerative disease, which has been likened to zombieism.

And it's also because there's a corruption of natural processes going on here - trying to fend off death, but in the process welcoming the undead, and chaos, (by eating a flower one shouldn't); trying to fend off hunger, by eating human flesh, which one shouldn't, and in the process welcoming eternal hunger. A corruption of what Food should be, as it were. As well as the motivations of the Palace vs the People, and the neglect of the people meaning they're driven towards this, and then zombieism being used overall as a narrative device for multiple ideas... etc. etc.

I don't even like Kingdom after Season 1 (for related reasons as listed below of it becoming Too Metaphor), but I guess S1 treads the line fine enough for me to still apparently write about it 🤣. (And also because I'm weird and morbid and really like the random Cannibalism = Zombieism easter egg).

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“The Witch’s Diner” — the dishes granted wishes, but beware unintended consequences.

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Okay, of course I must start off with Kim Sam Soon where a mango mousse cake violently introduces the FL and ML, and a thermos of porridge later reveals some key shifty behavior. Among many other food and drink-related plot movers because after all, it’s about a patissier educated at Le Cordon Bleu and a restaurant owner.

The never-ending drive for the perfect Pasta alla Vongole (I think that’s its name) by the trainee FL and as defined by the Head Chef (aka, Shep!) ML throughout Pasta. What a fun guy he was (not).

The magical liquors taken from a mysterious restaurant in the forests of Jeju that causes the FL and ML to switch bodies in Secret Garden.

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Sam Soon is the first one I thought of!! Also the scene with the little niece and the flour fight, where the ML laughs for the first time.

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It's been a long time since I've seen it so I don't remember specifics but Mystic Pop Up Bar.

They sold food and drinks, specifically a certain kind of drink/potion, that led the lead character(s) to be able to enter dreams and figure out people's grudges or issues and resolve them.

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Mystic Pop Up Bar was a good show and I enjoyed the first three quaters of The Golden Spoon but it just didn't land the end for me.

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The Golden Spoon. The character(s) have to eat meals a number of times with a golden spoon. (Various episodes)

My Girlfriend is a Gumiho. Does Miho's carnivorous nature count? Dae Woong is always trying make sure to have enough money to buy her beef and in the process learned who his real friend(s) are (episode 2), Miho collected coupons to get free chicken which is how she met the chicken shop owner & got on the director's radar. (I don't remember the episodes)

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Meat eating is a prominent plot point in Zombie Detective, where Moo-Young constantly battles his zombie instinct for consuming human and other live flesh. To satisfy his appetite, he keeps his refrigerator stocked with raw meat. His internal debates about eating the pigeon perched outside his window are a hoot (a coo?)!

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I remember the actor said he actually chewed on the raw intestines in the scene at the restaurant. They were real intestines in that scene!

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Some people take method acting just a bit too far… 🤮

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Jjamppong in It's ok not to be ok. It was through that dish that Kang Tae remembered his mother's love. Also, the rice poridge and braised quail eggs that Sang-tae feeds Mun-yeong and eventually heals her. Both scenes moved me and made me cry, and still do everytime I rewatch the show.

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LITTLE WOMEN: there’s a scene, where Oh In-joo *inexplicably* drinks a blue cocktail that was just happening to stand on a table, *as if waiting for her* (won’t go into details because spoilers). 🙄

I’M NOT A ROBOT: ML likes to prepare food and is wistful Aji-3 won’t be able to taste it, while Ji-ah has to hide her gurgling stomach because… she won’t be able to taste it, either. 😬

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Oh yeah there was nothing at all suspicious about that blue drink... 🙄

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I think in THE 3RD CHARM, a meal the ML had while backpacking in Europe inspired him to become a chef and put up his own one-table restaurant.

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Dinner Mate. It's the central theme of the plot.

The King Affection : Lee Hwi laces the tea with poison in order to end her grandfather's hold on the kingdom. The entire sequence for this singular act was powerful.

Mr. Queen - Cheol-jung serves So-bong tea whilst trying to confirm if she heard his conversation at the gisaeng house. Turns out he served her his signature tea which So-bong traced not only to the scent of the room she was peeping through but also that of the man who attacked her the previous night.

Crash Course In Romance - Imma stop myself and not wax poetic about this. But I'll never forget the sad/hopeful/relieved/shock look that appeared on Chi-yeol's face when he realized he could digest this with ease and without panic.

The entire 6 episodes of Finland Papa is thematically woven as a found family drama drawn together by food - they must eat dinner together. And we get to see how sharing a meal at FL's house brought about this arrangement.

Chocolate - I don't exactly remember this as clearly as possible but I think towards the end, something is revealed about why the ML was drawn to the FL's cooking and we learn that it's because he ate something with a similar taste, I think the FL's mom or something. And since FL imbued mom's cooking into her craft, the rest is easy to fill into your imagination.

And now my thoughts are exhausted.

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Sound candy, a mysterious jar of candy comes to be in the grandmother’s possession and eating it triggers memories of her younger days. Her granddaughter and those around her also have memories evoked of key points in their lives when they eat it. In this way it helps them to resolve conflicts and develop new perspectives on life.
Recipe for Farewell; home cooked food/rooftop BBQ brought an estranged family back together again.

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It's hard to think of a K-drama that does not involve food and in someways move the plot - even if it's just a dinner everyone eats.

Our Blooming Youth: Food was a huge plot mover.
a) The CP learns to connect with people around him through food at the inn (his intro scene to common people's food is hilarious and touching at the same time), which also eventually connects him the larger plot by introducing characters that will help him save the day.
b) The FL's family dies through poisoning of food.
c) The Crown Prince's love language is food. He keeps feeding FL. The series has one of the LARGEST apple I have ever laid my eyes on LOL! And it is on one such feeding food to the secret-love-of-his-life occassion when the plot actually launches into full gear as CP learns FL does not want to marry and... (well, too much spoiler so will leave it there)
d) Soy sauce plate - once you see you will know the reference lol!
e) @gikata has already mentioned the peach and the fish eggs.

Mr Queen: Already mentioned but her saving the day was instrumental in moving the plot. And of course all those recipes.

Secretary Kim: He feeds her a candy (? I could never catch the exact thing) as a kid but it stays as a memory that eventually connects the dots when they are adults.

High Society: The sandwich that sets the love story in motion for Chang Soo and Lee Ji Yi

Extraordinary Woo: The love story evolves over lunch and whales.

King's Affection: Already mentioned above but the tea is the key.

Happiness: Food and food and more food - drives the whole damn series. The rice cakes that introduce us to all the people living in the building; The food supply that keeps everyone connected; the lack of which turns everyone on each other; the only thing that helps the lead couple maintain a semblance of control over the entire bickering population of that apartment complex. When people become source of food....

I have quite a few more, but will leave it at this.

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WWWSK actually has another use of food that gave impact to the kind of life Kim Miso has been living.
Episode 3. Miso invites Lee(forgotten his own name) to her apartment and offers him ramyeon, on the first time he's in your house. Of course, ML goes all out flustered but plays it for something else. Later that night MLs sister comes visiting and asks her why there's a double ramyeon plate lying around and ML says she offered ramyeon to her boss. Immediately her sister shrieked at her : "Who offers ramyeon to a guy on the first day he visits your house?". Based on my own kdrama experience I know not to. But it used that moment to show how detached from ordinary things of life her 9 years working as her boss's secretary made her, to the point where she didn't know she was a quirky statement/invitation.
Subtle but it told a lot.

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- Marriage Contract:
FL is sick so she rejects food like she rejects the help she needs, then the very first meal the OTP shares as a couple— a breakfast the ML makes, which is symbolic bc many of this OTPs “firsts” is initiated by the ML, an former playboy—is also the official start to their forever as a couple

- Feast of the Gods:
I would call this drama the makeshift modern version of DJG

- 100 Year Inheritance:
The main family of the drama—except FL— all fight to inherit the family’s family business, which is a noodle factors iirc And food is the way in which FL (Eugene Kim) helps ML regain his own muscle memory of food and actual sense of taste

- Baker King, Kim Tak Goo:
Food—specifically bread— is the driving force and motivation of the ML and basically is the basis for all things that happen in the drama once the setup of the plot is complete

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I was thinking of how to weave in food as it moved the plot of Marriage Contract. Thank you for bringing it up.

While food wasn't the central part of the story despite being the core occupation there, it created some really nice moments.
Like how the female lead was insistent that he gets the order of her favorite food order - teotbeokki comes first, not last.
Or the scene in the last episode where she discovered she might have finally lost her sense of taste during thier celebratory marriage dinner with the restaurant guys. It told so much.

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Yes!! There is quite a few pivotal internal character moments that involved food in this drama— the ones that you mentioned, I mentioned, and perhaps a few more. Personally, the ones I find to be the most significant is the moment with food wherein she discovers she’s beginning to lose her taste, when she accidentally places the sauce in the freezer (signifying that she’s beginning to lose focus and her memory becoming fuzzy), and then their first breakfast as a couple

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Thanks for mentioning King of Baking, where the three bakery trainees had to pass very difficult tests and find the way of imagining and baking the most perfect bread each time.
I would have never thought that I would be on the edge of my seat watching a show about bakers.

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As makjang as the drama is, I still think that all the praise and accolades the drama got were definitely well deserved. It’s a makjang that worked for me and— like you say— kept me at the edge of my seat, too

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It's the first and only makjang I have watched, and I was totally hooked. It was in spring 2022, btw. I had been watching dramas for just a few months, so I didn't know that KOB had practically been a social phenomenon in 2010.

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If you liked it whilst watching it in 2022, then that just means that this makjang—and their way of making & producing it— can withstand the test of time 🥰

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The first drama that popped into my mind is Wok of Love. We have a chef male lead injuring his hand and the female lead having to assist him.
That was a unique drama with both leads meeting during their wedding preparations and then getting divorced and falling in love. I loved how it also depicted the journey of our heroine into growth and knowing what she really wants to do.

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Chil-sung was a very important part of their journey ... it help that he was played by Jang Hyuk. 😍

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* helped

After all it was Chil-sung's restaurant!

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Yeah. He practically stole the show.

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... and co-parent the cat!

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There are many great scenes regarding food in Goblin.
Gong Yoo is great in this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_3m9EyLRk

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And this one with Repear and Goblin fighting using the food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IY10cdZpic

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This "food fight" is as iconic as the "model walk". 🤣

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as @minniegupta1 brought up, Food in Korea is very significant culturally anyway, it's often the way they ask how you are, or show affection and say "I love you" without any words, and is very predominant in building connections in friendships but also workplaces.
So there's that.

I feel like I'm still waiting for a drama to really use food and drink in a way I can truly get my teeth (haha) into though.

And I mean MORE than just as a cultural thing, or as a side note, or as in something like Mystic, which is a show I LOVE but that's not how I mean either, or any of the stuff that comes close or sometimes does it like Crash Course, A Business Proposal, King the Land ironically, + stuff I haven't seen probably, and oh, the drama Link: Eat, Love, Kill could've been *Sigh*.

I mean a show where Food is the Main Thematic Point AND is explored in a deeply and rich symbolic way that really scratches the gremlin in my brain that goes insane for thematic symbolism and storytelling. Where it's not just a gimmick, and it's not just a premise, and it's not JUST a narrative tool, but it's all these, and all these shows and still MORE.

... I don't really know how to explain what I'm looking for. As usual, I'll probably just have to write it myself 😅.

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Have you watched the sageuk Dae Jang Geum? I don't think food can get deeper than that (well, I'm not a fan of food so maybe it can).

According to my mom, that show it's great for people interested in cooking/food.

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I have not! It's on my Sageuk watchlist, but I'm also like... notoriously terrible at starting long Sageuks as they scare me.
And I need to watch/restart SFD before I try anything else I do think... haha

I will add this as additional point in its favour though, and when I get round to it, I will have to let you know, if it manages to be what I am looking for.

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I know how you feel, I've had SFD on hold since 2019. 😂 I love the show but I haven't find the right time to finish it because I know I have to start all over again.

I hope you like it. I don't remember the show well, but in my memory it was cool (and I really hate watching people cook or eat, so that says a lot LOL).

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Fortunately I only got 3 EPs into SFD so I don't have much to rewatch 🤣
But yeah. Gah.

Hahaha it comes very well recommend by others too don't worry haha although I haven't heard much about it from the food pov before so that's fun. I also, unlike you, do like Food haha.

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Heol, you're lucky.
I watched at least half of the show. 😭

Oh, really? I thought the main thing about DJG was the food, since the real DJG is famous for that.

I only like to eat. 😂 If the food isn't going into my mouth, I have zero interest in it.

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There's always a chance it was mentioned and I just wasn't paying attention... lmao

😂😂😂 eat WHILST watching things also about food? haha

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😂😂 I understand how it works but it's not my style.

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I think 'Happiness' does that. Food has been used as a symbolism in the series that divides the 'Haves' and 'The have nots' where the 'Haves' feel entitled to have 'more' of everything, even though they not only do the least, expecting the have-nots to put themselves in danger to do it for them, they feel entitled to the fruits of their labour.

There is this awful critter in the series who is 'vegan'. The juxtaposition of evil vs lip service to humanity is profound. This series has layers that simply opens up one by one and something new pops up every single time.

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Hmmmm... I love symbolism, and complex themes, but when they become too much of a Grand Metaphor, that's when they start to lose me, and I end up hating them instead of liking them. Squid Game and Little Women are examples of this.

Happiness hasn't really been on my radar because I'm a bit apprehensive, from what I know about it, that its layers would cross over into this category for me.

And what I'm really looking for, I think, is Food used for the sake of Food and the Nature of Food itself, and not just as a Metaphor?

But I appreciate the reccomendation anyway, I do. And the discussion. And I'll definitely keep it in the notes as it's very interesting to read more about it and how it uses food.

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I see what you mean. It's interesting. I loved how they used food in Happiness, especially as it was done subtly. It's one series that they didn't bring food to the table for entertainment, though they did use it a lot as - I would not say metaphor - but turning plot points, without furiously slapping it on our heads (something I love about the series - subtlety). For example, most food shown in the series is boxed. You could say it is a metaphor, but it's also essential to the basic story. I do not like zombies and ghosts, but this series hits different.

The only series that used food as a source of

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"the only series that used food as a source of..."

Was your sentence supposed to end there? Seems like there is something missing.

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@sicarius - no it wasn't, I don't know why it got trucated but now I can't recall for the life of me what I wanted to write (facepalm).

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Oh no! happens to the best of us haha 😅

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My Queen

imho "food" was a very strong character motivation in quite a few K-dramas.
- The Baker King,
- My Golden Life,
- Greasy Melo,
- Oh My Ghostess,
- Pasta,
- The Business Proposal.

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Yes I mentioned ABP and of the others I've seen Oh My Ghostess which I uhm, hated... 😅.
I'm looking for more than just character motivation also, but thank you for the list!!!!!

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**bobbing a curtsy to you my Queen**

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Got to include My Girlfriend is a Gumiho! Its my favorite place to watch meat eating!! She must have it to live. I can tell how delicious it is just watching her.

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"Gogi" (meat) is a favorite of many a K-drama FLs! Almost every other drama refers to this preference. 🙄

You're absolutely right Shin Min-a made eating meat an art form. 🤣

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That drama is one that made me so hungry watching it!

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Help! I am having a serious brain cramp today. For some reason, countless images of food-centric scenes are floating around in my brain, but I can’t for the life of me remember which dramas they come from…except Would You Like a Cup of Coffee?, in which the title beverage obviously plays a central role.

Can anyone out there help identify these shows? I don’t think it will be too hard.

When a talented chef goes bust, a wealthy benefactor buys him a food truck. There’s a scene where no customers are showing up, until a blogger spreads the word through social media and they become hugely popular.

A guy leaves porridge at the FL’s door. She’s holed up in her apartment, either sick or depressed. I think he goes back and is disappointed to find it still by the door, untouched. (I think porridge plays a role in a number of other shows.)

A guy goes into a convenience store whips up a dish combining various fast-food ingredients for a sulky child. I think the child (maybe now grown up?) makes the same dish later on.

The ML and FL are in a convenience store arguing over the last triangle kimbap. In the same show or maybe a different one, one of the characters will only eat triangle kimbap.

I’m so frustrated about not being able to remember!!! 🥺

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They have a feature on this site trying to find a lost drama and here you are listing several contenders in this one post. I am interested in finding the answers as a couple ring a bell for me too🤣

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All of my usual methods are failing me. I can’t remember any of the actors involved. I went down my list of completed shows, and none rang a bell. I scrolled through Dramabeans recaps of shows I suspected might be the ones I was thinking of. I even Googled terms like “kdrama triangle kimbap.”

I’ll check out the lost drama feature and see if I can come up with any answers. In the meantime, I’m pinning my hopes on the Beanies!

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Remembered one of them! In Good Doctor, Shi-On, a doctor who is on the autism spectrum, will eat only triangle kimbap. He’s so obsessed with them that when he sees the price tag on a very expensive sweater, he calculates the value as being equal to the cost of 972 triangle kimbap.

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Yay!🥳 one down three to go.

Not so yay, I have seen that one and I forgot that element of the story too. However, let’s not be too hard on ourselves as we can’t be expected to remember every element of a 16 episode story.

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The one that’s driving me crazy is the food truck one. I can remember a lot of details… The ML had the food truck, and the SML was a chaebol son of a department store owner. I’m pretty sure they were both in love with the FL. The ML won a food competition sponsored by the department store, and the CEO was angry about it. The ML had two friends (I think they were brother and sister, or maybe spouses) who helped him with the food truck. There was one scene where the SML also helped out. I even remember he got sauce on his shirt,

SO WHY CAN’T I REMEMBER THE NAME OF THIS SHOW??? 🤯🤬

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Oh I thought I had it but I am only part way through and those extra details are not in Hot & Sweet yet so maybe it is a different drama you are talking about.

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Nope. Never seen that one. The show I’m thinking of takes place in Seoul. The first place they set up the truck is down by the river. Then in a park. The cooking competition takes place in a plaza in front of the department store.

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Wasn't there a scene they announced they were expecting a baby in front of the food truck...? Or was it the secondary couple... I don't even know what show I'm remembering!

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It was the secondary couple having the baby. I think they reveal it sitting outside the food truck at night.

When I first remembered that scene, I thought the pregnant woman might have been played by Park Hee-Von, but then I realized I was thinking of her role in Familiar Wife. In one of the time warp scenarios, she marries Ji-Sung’s brother, and at one point announces she’s pregnant. She and her husband run a restaurant; the food reference further made me confuse this show with the mystery one!

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Reunited Worlds! That’s the one!!! I wasn’t thinking of a time-travel drama, so I kept skipping right over it as I kept going through my watch list.

@attiton — You are my hero!!!! 🏅👏 👏 👏

I’m so exhausted from the mental effort, I think I’ll go cook myself some porridge…

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@babylilo I am so very glad!!! Gosh, helping you was just as satisfying as figuring out one for myself!! 💖

Speaking of which, I am officially now obsessed with my own convenience store “recipe” one. @hopefulromantic doesn’t remember it being Hello, Me!…so it probably wasn’t (and I also can’t confirm via websearching). GAH.

So, can anyone now help me???

It’s a woman. She makes this very special “recipe” with ALL SORTS of gross-looking, Korean convenience store foods because that’s what she can afford (but also I think the recipe was made up by a parental figure??). The base is rameyon, and there is at least that packaged sausage added, plus an extra sauce of some kind…and few other things that I didn’t recognize by sight.

She eats it (sort of sadly maybe?) early on in the drama when she’s actually working at the convenience store (?), then later on in the drama, she makes it for someone else who doubts that it could possibly be any good, but it is. Then even later on, the ingredients are given back to the original woman in a paper bag (by the person she shared it with???) when that original woman is in, I do believe, the hospital.

Anyone?

Calling in friends and anyone reading the comments stream!! @indyfan @lapislazulii @cecilieDK @mayhemf @reply1988 @midnight @bbstl (just to name a few folks I think might know!!)

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Could it be Jang-Geum, Oh My Grandma? I haven’t seen it, but I found a web posting of convenience store recipes from the show.
http://www.geekykitch.com/2019/01/kdrama-korean-convenience-store-recipes.html

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@babylilo No, not seen that. But actually some of those foods in your link look, like, really good. I need to go eat dinner, I think ;)

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I’m fine with somek, but Tomato Jelly Beer is simply an abomination. 🤮

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OMG. That post is my new diet plan.

As in, every time I'm hungry, I will read it again and my appetite will disappear again. Almost every one of those is horrifying. Jerky Sandwich is a war crime. I refuse to admit that Tomato Jelly Beer exists, even conceptually. The names, though - "Sorry-racha" 🤣🤢

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The kimbap dispute was in Merry Mary?

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Haven’t seen that one, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be two shows with triangle kimbap disputes!

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I think the food fight in Merry Mary was actually something else, rice or noodles. I do feel like triangle kimbap is a prominent kdrama feature, or else I wouldn't know what it is. I think maybe in Love and Marriage the male lead ate some bad triangle kimbap?

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Hot & Sweet may be the food truck drama you are thinking of it’s a web drama. Food truck on a beach off season, he has signature sauce for his burgers and gets promoted on social media by a woman who owes him money so ends up working for him to pay off the debt.

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Nope—haven’t seen that one, either. But nice try!

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Our memory is so fascinating! It is already impressive that you remember so many fine details about the plot in the four dramas, there is absolutely no reason to feel frustrated. Cheer up.

Let us see if we can fill in some of the blanks.

1. Chef with food truck seems like the Taiwanese drama - The Perfect Match.

2. ML leaving porridge at the FL's door - seems like Horribly Terribly. You're right porridge is in almost every other drama. 😀

3. Convenience store dish for a child - not sure. There was something similar in May I Help You, where the elder sister makes something for young brother.

4. Triangle kimbap is a hot favorite amongst many in K-dramas - Hit the Top, Good Doctor, My Secret Romance, Mad Dog also refers to the computer nerd being obsessed by them ....

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I am dead certain I've seen the argument over the last triangle kimbap in a convenience store, but darned if I can remember where. Suspicious Partner, maybe? The leads have the right kind of competitive relationship and the FL is short on money.

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Is the “fighting over a triangle gimbap” scene “we are all” remembering the one from Chief Kim????

https://www.dramabeans.com/2017/01/chief-kim-episode-2/

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That's it! Thank you! It was driving me crazy, too. I have no idea about the other scenes.

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Yes! That’s the triangle kimbap scene I was thinking of! 🎉🥳

I’m still wracking my brain over the food truck one. Like a lot of other aging folks, my ability to recall images remains much stronger than my ability to recall words. Normally this means I can remember the face of at least one cast member, which makes it pretty easy to identify the drama. But not in this case. I remember so many visual details (except for the faces), that I know the drama actually exists.

To make things worse, the more I think about it, the more I keep recalling other food scenes whose origins I also can’t remember… 🤯

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@elinor My pleasure. It was also a relief when I, too, remembered…it took me about five minutes (Cue @darkcc’s “secondary voice”: “The woman is a working woman. Her nose is very narrow and linear. The man doesn’t work where she works, but he’s there for another reason…and then OH OH they end up working TOGETHER!!! CHIEF KIM CHIEF KIM CHIEF KIM!!”).

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Vote to award Seon-ha
Hero of the thread award for helping us remember the dramas!

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Thanks, @seeker. I think I’m sharing a little bit more than I’d intended about why I answered the way I answered on the “Would you rather?” about memory: https://www.dramabeans.com/2023/09/would-you-rather-25/

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Thanks so much for the words of encouragement! Unfortunately, I haven’t seen numbers 1-3, so those dramas are ruled out.

I already remembered the triangle kimbap plot point in Good Doctor, and @attiton just identified the other triangle kimbap scene I couldn’t remember—the one from Chief Kim.

I agree that porridge figures in a lot of dramas as a familiar trope representing nurturing/caring. I now remember that in the case I am thinking of, there was a rivalry between two guys for the same woman. One left some porridge by her door and the other one came along and replaced it with his own.

My next strategy is to go take a nice long shower. For whatever reason, this method seems to work when I’m struggling to remember something.

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@babylilo THIS HAS BEEN SO MUCH FUN. It’s like an even fun-ner version of the original K-drama treasure hunt idea (which is obviously awesome and ✨🎶🎵 My favorite time of week! 💓🙋‍♀️).

However, the “nicely, but incompletely, described scenes, set forth for you so that they tickle your memory—but don’t tell you the whole story—and you have to go and put images and sounds to these word-based descriptions” IS SO MUCH ADDITIONAL FUN FOR ME. It’s like scratching an itch. Sooooo satisfying.

I’ve not seen the food truck drama, nor the porridge drama (no brain tickles there) but I wish I could help you. The only porridge I know was in Fight for my Way but that’s the FL putting it out on the porch for the ML, while he’s dating/dumping/dating the 2FL—right before, I think, he then goes off to the military. Not the same as what you’re describing, although there is a love triangle.

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I’m glad you’re having a good time while I’m going crazy! 🤣

I did actually remember the porridge scene in Fight for My Way. In the one I’m thinking of, the two guys vying for the FL are really childish and petty.

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The “convenience store mix all the crap together dish” drama is—I do very much believe—Hello, Me!. Her dad used to make it, and she makes it…and then also makes it for her younger self? @hopefulromantic may also remember this too…

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Haven’t seen that show, so that’s not it. I’m remembering it as a boy sulking outside a convenience store, refusing to eat, until the guy (I don’t think it was his father) took him into the store and whipped up the dish for him. The kid ate it and loved it. I think later in the show the kid went back to the store and made it for himself. I’m not certain, but the guy might have been a chef.

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Oh, OK! @Hopefulromantic, do I have that memory right, all the same? Does that happen in Hello, Me!?

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Hmm... I remember in Hello, Me! that the FL and her dad bonded over their love of snacks, and he would stop by the convenience store on his way home to buy her snacks. So in the present, with her younger self, eating snacks feels comforting. I can't remember if they ate ramyeon as a plot point in this drama?

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This sounds so familiar??? But I can't tell if I've actually seen it or not!

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The ML and FL in a convenience store arguing over the last triangle kimbap is from Chief Kim.

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Chocolate- the leads are bonded through a single type of food, and the FL heals herself and others through her food.

Start-Up - Beloved SML BB likes a corndog made by Halmeoni.

Weightlifting Fairy- I don’t remember much of the story besides the fact that the FL’s uncle owns a fried chicken place and the FL ‘s gang goes there often to eat it with beer.

Hospital Playlist- everyone bonds through food eaten together

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In Fight for My Way the two couples bond through food and drinks on the rooftop but more importantly Dong-man's coach runs a food truck to be near him and keeps motivating him to get back to taekwondo.

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In Just Between Lovers, the FL's father (Ahn Nae-sang) gives up his job as truck driver and opens a restaurant near the site of the collapsed mall.

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I'm fond of the jajangmyeon in Fantasy Couple, although it's not a big plot mover. Actually, I can think of food in a few other Hong Sisters shows. As already mentioned, there's the carnivorous female lead in My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, a somewhat gluttonous female lead in My Girl (plus oranges), and the foodie female lead in Hotel del Luna.

For a real plot mover (like, revenge), there's God of Noodles, but perhaps it's unfair to cite a show that's named after food.

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In the Hong Sisters' drama Warm and Cozy, the ML opened and restaurant and became a chef to trace his first love!

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Is it just the KDs that I’ve watched or that the food almost never looks appetizing to me? I’ve watched shows with various middle eastern cuisines where the food practically sings to me even if I know they might not be as hot and delicious as they look.

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Food scenes are one of my favorite parts of kdrama (in some cases the only redeeming part of a show) but it's often in the preparation, the slicing and dicing and cooking (plot point: the kitchen duel in Risky Romance), so I'm never taken with BBQ scenes, it's just sizzling meat lying there (and I don't like going out for BBQ, if I'm going to cook myself, I'll stay home). My favorite food is Cantonese, but I have to admit it's not always the most photogenic, the best looking food in my opinion is Japanese.

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I agree that 일식 photographs beautifully.

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If you love cooking scenes, you should check out a film called Little Forest. Kim Tae-Ri plays a woman suffering from burnout who returns home to her small village to recharge. For her, cooking is both therapy and art. A good chunk of the movie is devoted to her foraging for ingredients and cooking these exquisite dishes. It’s a sweet little film, but for me, the cooking scenes are the main reason to watch it. (If that’s not enough incentive, there’s also Ryoo Joon-Yeol in the role of one of her childhood friends.)

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Thanks for the tip. I have trouble finding many KFs in my region and to my regret, previously couldn’t find this. But, hope springs eternal, right?

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I shamefully confess that I went over to the Dark Side to watch it. 😈

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I’m a scaredy cat but good on you!

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I think food moves EVERY plot LOL since in every episosde of every drama there's about 5 scenes of eating and nonstop talking about food. i love it.

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