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Open Thread #848

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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There is a new trend for short series which I find intriguing: each episode is its own story in an overall theme. DEATH’S GAME showed 12 different lives (with different actors) for the main character’s punishment after committing suicide. Each vignette is a self contained story with a climax resolution. It was announced this week another short series, TAROT, will follow the same footprint with 7 different episodes led by seven different actors: Jo Yeo Jeong, Park Ha Sun, Dex, Go Kyu Pil, Seo Ji Hoon, Lee Joo Bin, Kim Sung Tae, T-ara's Eunjung, and Oh Yu Jin. However, I don’t know how accessible it will be since it will be released through U+ Mobile TV.

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I like the shorter series that are tightly written, One day off and Finland Papa worked well.

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I was going to say that I will give anything a try if it includes Seo Ji Hoon but . . . . . I draw the line at horror which is why I didn't watch Death's Game even though it included In-soo.

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Yes I was suspicious of the title so looked it up and walked away quickly!

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I'm not an expert on many dramas but part of what made Attorney Woo so special is that just about every episode was a different law story. This was my first K-drama and even though it was 16 episodes, every one was fresh. Added bonus was that the relationships developed and grew through out. Thanks for the perspective on Death's Game.

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EAW has a very western structure, though law or medical drama tend to also have a case-per-few-episode structure.

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Attorney Woo was written by a K-drama novice. That worked in its favor the first half of the series and worked to its detriment in its second half. Oddly, the series had pulled in so many newbies to K-dramas that this new audience didn't realize the story was going a bit wonky.

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Weather - 1st - 2024 - Mother Earth - Mother Nature -

It's cold - yes it is - storm here and there as expected - but slightly late as 3rd week is almost. Yeah Cold season is blooming a bit late. Expect it go for more than February - as short spring and big summer of 6 months from 1st week april itself.

19th day today and 45 more days left now. March cool nights should be more cool than usual.

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Things - change - 2024 - ahh still d same - someho i have battled these 19 cold days - same as 2023 - But i was expecting change - well, i expect change everytime but things remain almost the same.

One change - haven't touched milk at all - so vegan going well for 1st 19 days. It will take time - 2025 for more better outcome.

TV - Have to watch tv too for Serendipity -

Haven't touch any fruit - for 380+ days - good control - good fun too - It's 2024 so yeah can for fruits.

2024 - has to deal with internal heat - better to know chinese medicine or asian medicine or middle east knowledge or herbs and all.

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Politics - hahaha - i'm really enjoying it - the best entertainment any day around. e have way too many elections in 2024 and many important one that demand billions of dollars of movement here and there - donut as said in 2023 - doing good - Mr. bee turned out to be far worse than donut. completely ruined all his image with his actions. Donut shouldn't be in the game - that's voters for you they can't find anyone young and then they a play ping pong between 2 parties. 2 party system is never a democracy. CCP can play this game any day, so would be called democratic.

As i talked most about Father-daughter pair - Kim Jong is gone ahead with that - that makes things far more interesting.

Hasina won election - one side is undemocratic and other side is extremist - morals, ethtics and blah blah blah r only d notions of facemasks. real world works differently. she won - that's practical and beneficial for everyone than going crybaby over phony buzzwords.

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https://www.allkpop.com/article/2024/01/a-broadcast-accident-with-kangnam-for-the-new-samsung-galaxy-s24-series-brings-laughter
I found this interested article about this recent event and I felt that there was a hilarious broadcast accident featuring TV personality Kangnam which accidentally contained the expletive word (f--- you) while translating Korean into Japanese during the skit on real-time translated audio function with S24 Ultra at the Samsung Galaxy S24 series' unpacking online video event. I am also made funny that after this broadcast accident, Kangnam now sang Korean national anthem before all of three hosts bowed out because I knew Samsung was one of the most famous and most popular Korean brands. I kept laughing after reading this.

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It's Friday again! Last week I was supposed to give you more LYN's music, but got too sick to deliver on that promise, so we're doing it now instead. My first playlist two weeks ago was a little aimless – just a bunch of live performances I really liked, but that's no way to present a whole series, right? So I've decided to add a theme to it. This time it's gonna be vanilla ballads – something everyone likes (except me – I'm SUPER picky with the stuff). Ready?

Let's start with something I overlooked last time, as @kiara rightly pointed out – famous (and perfectly fitting for the topic) THE LONG BALLAD OST. No live, unfortunately – shame, if you ask me - so here's an official MV with mild spoilers you can easily avoid by switching tabs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L38pl-7f52g

Next is another famous OST from A DREAM OF SPLENDOR. Quite a tooth-rotter as well - if anyone gets diabetes by the end of this post, you're allowed to sue him me for damages all you want))) Still processing the news that ML of ADOS and NYZ are apparently relatives... Here I DID find live performance, but it lacks a verse for some reason, so I'm gonna be better than Chinese TV not that it's a hard task and give you a full version too. Live (the way you can hardly tell the difference from his vocals alone! in kpop such record-like singing is called “eating CDs” and I find the expression very amusing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHn48MgmRQ

And MV (spoilers!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpqgcRsiVA

Let's add a bit of bitterness. I LOVE duo performances, esp male-female duos – I think that's what showcases singers true capabilities since it's much easier to sound great alone. Concept of this one is “doomed romance, no need even for an eye contact” - his quote, not mine lol. Note how he does not overpower his partner – he never does, actually, man knows how to tango (metaphorically speaking - he cannot dance to save his life lmao):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAzZj6FV0Pc

For once not a cover or OST but his own song – it did feature in a bunch of his projects AFTER release tho (THE TRUTH meme-ed it into the grave, I still have residual giggle reflex from it being his go-to serenade there). Title means “Ray Of Light In The Dark” and the overall meaning is just so darn sweet, awww! No idea why they got him up on that thing after he just recovered from a broken foot...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4C7F3Jd570

Another bitter pill – self-deprecating lyrics and the fact that this was him on a singing show freshly debuted just to get brutally eliminated as result. Idk how that happened btw – if it was our local program, he'd last till finale for sure and gain a legion of rabid fangirls while at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Y86a-sDg4

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BONUS: Pretty sure I saw clips of him covering kdrama songs (I think it was GOBLIN OST or something... one of those tearjerker ballads everyone knows and I absolutely loathe lol), but couldn't find that again, so here's the next best thing. The accent is super cute))) He's gotten much better with solid R since then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYaUgMMy6s

His first OST of 2024 is released next week btw, so if it's good, I might add it to the Part3)))

@jillian, @zindigo, @wapzy - interested in more singing?^^

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Thank you @Gikata!
I'm still going through 2023 OSTs (31 of them).😄 Looking forward to all the new ones this year.
I listened to this song on repeat yesterday. His accent is so adorable. 😊
The original "Cry On My Shoulder" by Westlife and Toni Braxton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgFDcZpfE30&ab_channel=YY%E7%9B%B4%E6%92%AD

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You're welcome)))

While going through compilation videos during editing this post I had a lol moment upon realizing that he had twice as many OSTs in 2023 compared to 2022. Would be hard to keep such pace this year too but who knows? At least we have better schedule with his music than his dramas *sulks*

His Korean pronunciation is actually quite good from what I can tell. Makes me wonder just how much of k-media he consumed to grasp phonetics this well... He casually references so many things - dramas, music, even fashion (turtleneck bought for "Winter Sonata-style oppa look" got me on the floor, and not just from laughter... ahem). While English certainly needs more practice lol. But that's unlikely to be high on his priorities list.

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I love his music, but I'm not particularly fond of some of his fashion choices. 😅
I feel all kinds of emotions from hearing his voice, but I don't know what he is singing about 99% of the time.😂 Occasionally, I'd look for some English songs to sing along. My English is not that good since it is my 3rd language, so I don't have the heart to judge. Haha.

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@kiara at least his style has distinct personality to it, even if lacks polish sometimes. My biggest gripe is those bulky long coats/robes he's often dressed for events - why, just why? Let the man flaunt his supermodel legs, stop turning him into scarecrow! I'm all for turtlenecks tho, esp paired with a suit. And glasses. And beads he's obsessed with. Recently there seems to be an improvement btw, his few latest red carpet looks were really well done.

I google lyrics habitually - not always, but quite often, esp if I seriously like the song. He's great at conveying the vibe even without it, you're right about that.

Hah, my speaking English is unimpressive either (it's my 3rd too if we're talking about proper knowledge), but I can quickly pick up phonetics and accents even from languages I don't really know. Mother Nature being the troll she is gave me great ears - and total disaster of a voice (plus super weak vocal cords - half an hour of casual talking and I'm literally IN PAIN) to balance it out, which I've been hella bitter about since forever))) That's exactly where my obsession with beautiful voices and their owners comes from.

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Always! I love listening to great singers like LYN! 😘

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Thanks for sharing! 😊 Its great that you are feeling much better now. Sharing LYN vids is always welcome whenever you can.

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Thanks. It was nothing serious anyway to hold me back for long.

My pleasure))) I mean, I can easily turn it into a year-long plan due to the sheer amount of content available, but that'd probably be too much... or not?^^

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Hello!
this week 3 times i go to a break and find my boss esting ice cream in secret in the video corner. Is she doing mukbang?
sometimes people are talking on the phone very loud in the stairway and everyone can hear it. There are so many personal scandals, someones ex husband pretended to be sick but was actually having an affair with a 21 year old nurse. Sometimes colleagues cut in and they end the call, then all the people in the reading room sigh in unison with disappointment. usually theyd be upset with noise but they all love gossip. some even sit closer to the door.
what else. I spotted some of my colleagues googling me. Didn't ask. Didn't google back either.

next week is a week long teachers' streik, library open from 8am and full of kids.
nightmares. but also reading dogs are here all day and i can finally go pet them.

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Ice cream in library?! That's bold. I'd probably get kicked out of the family registry if I tried that at home...

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ah well the filming corner is like downstairs next to wardrobe, we sometimes film introductions or record podcasts there its not like part of the public library

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and btw we made kimchi in the library with the Korean Culture Club. in the old books section. because it had more space and bigger table...

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Wow. What about the smell tho? Paper can absorb quite a bit of it... It's been years but some of our books still carry the faint scent of incense my dad was once into.

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they are locked in tight cabinets. there is no smell.

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Is it that hot where you are right now that your boss has to sneak off to eat ice cream in the corner of the library?!

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Estonians and finns eat more ice cream in the winter than in summer. Finns used to be 2nd place after USA but now New Zealand is 1st USA 2nd Australia 3rd Finland 4th. but when it comes to ice cream in winter, it is Latvia 1st Estonia 2nd Finland 3rd. Latvian ice cream is called Saldejums.
similarly to koreans eating cold noodles in winter and hot samgyetang or soondae soup in the summer

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I love this ice cream consumption data!!🍨 Am craving some too.

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omg, “some even sit closer to the door” 🤣
Good luck next week, enjoy petting the dogs!

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your work place sounds very interesting. what are these reading dogs? I would also love to pet them.

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kids who stutter or have some speaking difficulties or dyslexia can read to a dog for an hour since they are too timid or axious reading to an adult person. kinda no-judge listener. we got 5 different ones, 2 golden retrievers, one samoyed, one bernie and one very young and an afghan.

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This is the first time I am hearing something like this but it sounds so good. Dogs are so kind , non-judgemental and understanding of humans. I would be spending all my free time in office with reading/helping dogs, if my office is brave enough to put in place such a policy.

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INAUGURAL NOTES FROM NINETAILEDVIXEN'S SABBATICAL:

1. After a gruelling few months of pre-sabbatical prep, I am FINALLY on my sabbatical. And what did this gumiho/hulijing/kitsune do? Zoning out all day while catching up with K-Dramas and travel planning.

2. Not that much luck catching up with sleep though. The insomnia is still raging on... the family dog is still singing the song of his people an hour after I finally doze off... Sigh...

3. In the latest news about the ongoing ramifications about the South Korean Confucian patriarchy: "South Korea’s bachelor time bomb is about to really go off. Following a historic 30-year-long imbalance in the male-to-female sex ratio at birth, young men far outnumber young women in the country. As a result, some 700,000 to 800,000 “extra” South Korean boys born since the mid-1980s may not be able to find South Korean girls to marry."

https://theconversation.com/south-koreas-gender-imbalance-is-bad-news-for-men-outnumbering-women-many-face-bleak-marriage-prospects-217661

Why? Because of their toxic son preference (yes, the very same factor that had led China to its horrible gender imbalance):

"In order to ensure that families would continue to have boys, many South Koreans turned to readily available techniques to identify the gender of the fetus, such as screening in the early stages of pregnancy. Abortion, which is legal and socially acceptable in South Korea, was then often used to allow families to select the sex of their child."

I'm all for women having a reproductive choices (including abortion as healthcare) but this? This is not healthcare. This is South Korean families weaponising abortion to get rid of potential daughters and get the sons they want.

Between the 4B (Lysistra South Korean style) campaign and this practice of female foeticide, South Korea is definitely going to be in the same position China is right now - too many "bare branches" with families who have sons in a desperate position to find daughters-in-law so they can have grandkids.

Frankly, I have no sympathy for South Korea's population woes at this point. The solution is staring them right in the face - respect women as people, treat girls the same as boys, don't treat women as second-class citizens tasked with looking after men, don't do that misogynist and sexist crap. But hey, double down on all that by electing an MRA/incel-championing president and doing anything but actually address the issue of their virulent misogyny, hey? It would be too much of a loss of face to give up male and patriarchal privileges, eh?

NOTE: To be honest, every time I hear about the woes of men of marriageable age (and their parents) in China with regards to finding a wife, I just laugh. Loudly. With plenty of Schadenfreude baked in. I bet many South Korean women are privately doing the same when they hear the news about the ticking demographic time bomb.

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In the last few years, SK polls had indicated that married couples now prefer to have daughters over sons for one selfish reason: they believe daughters would take better care of them in their old age.

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The whole situation is so dispiriting, but - isn't that an attitude shift away from Confucianism in its way? Aren't daughters traditionally supposed to take care of their in-laws?

Sexism. Feh.

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I actually don’t think in the 21st century, the lingering effects of Confucianism are to blame here. We are talking about one of the most advanced capitalist countries in the world. It is not Confucianism at work, it’s male stupidity, something I’m intimately familiar with!

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It's probably a mix of the things - the people who decided which part of religious ideas were worth writing down and build on, they were often super sexist.
I love how part of being human is carrying the ideas of your ancestors in evolving ideas that nevertheless have deep roots, but the deep traditions of many important things are handpicked by ruling sexists, and so religion is often also a carrier of horrible ideas about inequality. So it's a question of looking at those ideas and asking: 'Is this really "divine"? because it seems more like "unfair and hateful towards women"'.
And then make a new pact, so to speak.

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@hacja I beg to differ. I come from one of the 3 Confucian cultures and it is ABSOLUTELY behind son preference. It doesn't matter how modern the country is or how fast it is outwardly modernising. Even Mao's destruction of much of traditional Chinese culture could not get rid of son preference.

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@ceciliedk Confucianism is not so much a religion as it is a socio-cultural philosophy for enforcing a rigid social and family structure. And in that structure, women and girls come LAST.

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@9tailedvixen
As a historian, I would hardly deny that tradition has a long hold on culture, but I think too much is blamed on Confucianism in Asian cultures.

The preference for the son is dominant in all conservative cultures, even in the west. Everywhere in the world, business and governments refusal to support equal pay for women, their unwillingness to treat child care as a social responsibility that should be compensated, and men's personal reluctance to regard women as their peers means that a boy is just going to generally have an easier time in economic and public life, and both parents know this.
Now, I have a feeling (and hope) that this is changing, but I think the key is not eliminating all lingering influences of Confucianism in Asian cultures, but rather a conscious attempt of modern governments and businesses to promote gender equality.

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@hacja - Governments can modernise etc all they want... but governments comprise people and people don't get their beliefs in a vacuum. They still come from within the cultural system and it takes a lot to buck that system. In countries with a reasonably democratic voting system, it's still people who vote in who represents them (more or less) though corruption absolutely plays a part in who gets into power.

And it is usually conservative forces who are willing to pay to play (or rather, to keep themselves and their beliefs and ideals in power). Unfortunately, part of the conservative package anywhere is sexism and misogyny.

So I am going to be frank:

The key is for the elder generation to pass away so they can no longer pass such toxic traditions. And for the younger generation to keep pushing back, keep educating their conservative peers etc.

The battle in SK is brutal precisely because the Conservatives (especially Conservative MEN) are hellbent on keeping intact their unearned male privilege bestowed on them for centuries by Confucian ideals.

The key is changing the mindset and getting rid of the toxic parts of the culture. But in Asia that will take another century and another couple of generations at least.

The women in my family went from bound feet to highly educated professionals in the space of 100 years (4 generations). It's only my niece's generation on both sides of my family who can take "going to college to get a degree" and "not being pushed into getting married" as their basic right.

So I know it can be done. But from experience, family history, and my many years of working in women's human rights - it takes more than the government to change all this and tradition/culture is the hardest of all to change.

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THere are preference for sons in many cultures, but not so much as leaving them with a completely unbalanced number of one sex compares to the other.
There's a Danish film about an female writer's life, called "Just a Girl" because that's how her father reacted when she was born, around 1920.
I had a women's choir at one time, and one of those women had been neglected like that too, her father sent a telegram "Baby healthy, but a girl". Her younger brother, from the moment he came, had been treated better than her all their lives.

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And the centre of the new pact should be love.

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It is most likely how Koreans are raised and taught. Children are taught from the beginning to honor their parents; honorific speech is still standard. In school, they are taught the cultural values including honor, duty, education and work ethic. There is also the society's umbrella morals on how people should act (including men and women's roles). Individuals are molded by their environment: their home and school experiences can alter their personality and life perspectives.

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@welh - Yeah, the tide is starting to turn for Chinese families as well as the elders realise that it isn't their sons looking after them but their daughters.

But it is still far, FAR too slow. It will take one more generation to redress the balance for the Confucian cultures like SK and China. Probably Japan too.

It's a horrible reason to have daughters though. Nobody should have kids just because they want built-in geriatric care. And many of the younger generation are catching on and starting to push back. Have us because you want children to love, not because you want a nurse and purse when you're old.

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@9tailedvixen I don't know if you saw this article https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/16/business/china-birth-rate-2023.html
Confronted with discrimination and Women are resisting having families at all. This is where the change is occurring, and this is the hope for the future (if not for the temporary future of China's population!)

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@hacja Oh yes, I know all about that.

It's the ultimate way to give the finger to the Chinese patriarchy because carrying on the family line is regarded as paramount by Chinese families. No grandkids, no face.

Honestly, I hope the consequences of misogyny and son preference for China and Chinese families across the diaspora who refuse to see their female family members as equal to the male ones will become severe enough to force change.

This is basically the chickens coming home to roost after at least 20 centuries of rabid Confucian patriarchy (it wasn't as bad as this before effing Confucius became so influential. A POX ON HIS BODY!)

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There's an even more obvious solution. Nor more SMLS: Normalise for a woman to have two men, if she wants to, at least in the generations born until people stop sorting their children pr. gender. Then there can be a bit of competition about being as nice as the more modern ML's. Or, if you are a SOuth Korean girl and just swoon at tsundere, don't hold back! Get yourself a couple of tsundere men, and build your home on your own private emotional volcano.

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Private emotional volcano! 🤣😲🌋💀 I will note that having a teenage son works just as well, if not better, for constructing an endless source of volcanic emotions.

A few thousand years of polyandry could bring some balance back to the universe on a cosmic time scale, but it would be a near-term nightmare for most women who have to work with the existing crop of potential partners.

@hacja I agree that neo-Confucianism is less culpable than late-stage capitalism - I was just reacting to the non-traditional idea of a woman taking care of her own elderly parents rather than her husband's parents. But now that I think about it, if she married, she'd end up bearing the burden of caring for both sets of elders - like the supposed plight of second-generation only sons supporting four grandparents in China, except with lower pay, more discrimination, and fewer social resources.

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I have often advocated polyamory for the female lead as a solution for kdrama love triangles. Viewers would love it— no more SML syndrome!

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You should have seen the raging outbursts when Jealousy Incarnate tried a very mild case of polyamory.

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Was there a raging outburst? Was it here in the comments, or was it in news papers, or how?
Because I was all "finally!", especially since the two men already loved each other so much.
Same in Greasy Melo, really.

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Greasy Melo literally had both the heiress and the gangster desperate to "eat Pung's noodles" through the whole front half and then I'm supposed to think it's some kind of competition between these two men for this woman?
@ceciliedk

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Oh, I have rarely seen someone look so in love as Jang Hyuk when looking at FL. But it also seemed that at least for the men, a more inclusive solution could have worked. Maybe nobody would have had to choose.

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@ceciliedk I don't read any newspapers on kdramas. The complaints were here on DB about her playing with both of them just to make them jealous. For myself, I just thought it was a case of having to fill 24 episodes 😁

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The gifs with the solution to 3. can't be posted here, so the link is here:
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1521757/

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The cdrama Decreed by Fate also have several scenes of this configuration.

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Hello, I read that in China some bachelors go to south east Asia to find wives. Do you know if the same trend is happening among south korean bachelors?

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@FrenchFan - The article says that they have started importing brides from Southeast Asia. You cannot believe the curse I spat out when I read that. Given my line of work, I am absolutely aware that there is a LOT of bride trafficking now - kidnapping and selling young women from South Asia and Southeast Asia to supply Chinese bachelors and their families with a wife/daughter-in-law.

There are even STUDIES now tracking this phenomenon. And women's human rights (and general human rights) organisations have been raising the alarm and taking action:

https://ghrp.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s41256-017-0049-4

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/bride-trafficking-along-the-china-pakistan-economic-corridor/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/10/31/chinas-bride-trafficking-problem

Same thing is starting to happen with SK.

On an aside (and a personal note): When I was a college kid visiting my parents one summer in the Asian country I grew up in, my father ran into an acquaintance of his from China (a rather wealthy businessman, if I remember correctly) and stopped for a chat. That man kept glancing at me.

Later on, I asked my dad about it. He said the man asked him how much was my dowry (in my culture, the groom's family pays the bride's family the equivalent they spend on bringing her up). He had a son around my age. So it was easy to do the math. My dad told him that I was "too expensive", half as a joke and half as an indirect answer that got the message across: "My daughter is not for sale".

I have to give my father credit here - he was traditional in many ways but he drew the line at dowries and marrying off his daughters. He viewed the dowry system as the culturally-sanctioned way that families literally sell off their daughters.

But these women who are bride trafficked to China? They don't have a father or family who can run interference like that. My father could and did because to him, educating me was a lot more important and urgent. And with education, I could make my own choices as to whether I would marry or not.

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Thank you very much @9tailedvixen for the resources and for sharing your chilling experience. Hopefully your father valued you more than this tradition!

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@frenchfan Yes, he did value me more than that tradition. Hence running interference. In his eyes, an educated daughter means no matter whether she gets married or remains single, she'll be able to fend for herself.

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@FrenchFan - Mind you, it is regarded as completely above board and respectable for a well-heeled family with a son of marriageable age to see a suitable potential wife and make inquiries (sometimes through a matchmaker, sometimes directly to the parents of the woman).

I suppose I was seen as eligible at that time because I was in my early 20s, considered not ugly, and from what is considered a good family (educated, many family members in respectable professions, no scandals, financially sound etc).

But I shared my experience to illustrate not just how horrible the concept of dowries are but also how China's son preference combined with their recently-abolished one-child policy had created the issue of a shortage of women for the many "little emperors" to choose from and marry.

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If you look at the supply and demand mathematics of having more women than men in population, that means that woman can demand higher standards from potential suitors. (It is ironic that recent SK polls indicate that SK women are looking for nice guys who will treat them well which is a very low bar). But with these "higher" standards, men get very defensive and blame others (including feminism) for their problems.

From a socio-economic standpoint, more women in the workforce (at 1/3 the pay) do not necessarily need co-habitation or marriage to have a reasonable life ( like living and working in Seoul).

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I watched a video about the most hated man in SK and it honest to god baffles me why the laws don't change when these guys exist and keep reoffending.

Hearing the story reminded me of a few projects I've seen (such as Mouse and Vigilante) or movies I've heard of and it just makes me want to watch vigilante shows/movies because it feels like that's that the only way justice gets served.

I truly do not understand why people who are accused of recreational drugs are villianized and punished more harshly than predators or the system that protects them.

I just do not for the life of me understand the drinking culture hypocrisy and bias in SK.

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Is anyone getting overwhelming ads on Dramabeans when they use their phone (Iphone)? I can't use DB on my phone because the ads take up half to all of the screen and I can't seem to stop them. I don't mind watching some ads, but these don't end. I had been considering supporting DB (mostly because I want to support DB) but, I wasn't sure at which level you don't have ads. Has anyone done this? There is the 48 dollars for the year. Does that make it ad free? The ads are not as much of a nuisance on the web/blog view.

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Once you pay you get rid of ads it’s the best thing I did. Financially best option is the annual fee.

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Thanks! Is it the yearly 48? There are so many different levels....I wasn't sure which one was the one that did away with ads.

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Once you pay any fee the ads disappear, it is confusing but go for the ones that say sign up and then you get the specified months covered by that fee. You can automatically renew or cancel as you desire.

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If your son knows how to block the ads get him to do it for you. I just like to support the site as it brings me more than enough joy for the fee to be worth paying.

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Thanks! I'll sign up. Content creators have to get paid somehow. Too many ad blockers/dark side access and at some point there won't be any content out there to talk about here!

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On the issue if getting rid of ads in December one of the best investments I made was sucking up the cost (US $160) and upgrading to Youtube Premium. Gone are those annoying ad. I am blaming Zhang Ruo Yun.
Youku made the episodes of ZRY’s terrific THE HOPE available subbed on their Youtube channel and to avoid those annoying ad I took the plunge.

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That was my experience with Spotify I could not stand the same ads being run so frequently and lasting longer than the songs. I have been tempted with YouTube as they are beyond annoying but I am not on there often enough to make it worth my while I would rather invest in Audible.

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So, the range is 10 dollars (which is ad free for a month) to 48 dollars (which is ad free for a year). 30 dollars (is ad free for 6 months) and 20 dollars is (ad free for 3 months.). I think that is the breakdown. There is no difference between signing up for renewable gift vs one time gift----I think. Yikes. Thanks everyone!!! I hope I have this right. My teenage son laughs at me since he freely uses ad blockers and can't see why I would pay for any subscription service since everything is available everywhere and all the time! I signed up for a free trial on Hulu to watch Moving----ads, ads, ads.....

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I'm only getting local ads on Spotify and since we're currently going through... stuff here, it warms my heart to think that I'm supporting both the platform and local companies this way. Would've been great if I didn't need to fix the playlist settings after every ad tho...

YT will never get anything beyond adblock from me. Streaming services would have a chance once they get rid of geo-lock and start providing subs in my language.

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Seollal is almost here. I'm a "dragon lady," anyone else? What are your plans for celebrating the lunar new year (in 3 years)?

https://www.90daykorean.com/korean-lunar-new-year/

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@qingdao How do Koreans celebrate the Lunar New Year?

I am busy shopping online for goodies for the Lunar New Year while the sales are on so the hole in my pocket isn't nuclear level and I can get them all delivered instead of my trudging from shop to shop and dragging them all back to *sigh*. The endless rounds of "visiting relatives so they can comment on your appearance and marital status and gossip about other relatives to you" necessitate toting along bags stuffed with New Year goodies as a matter of manners. Thank goodness I don't need to stuff red packets full of cash since I am not married (HA!)

Also gearing up for the family reunion dinner where I am in charge of bringing dessert for the entire extended family (who are currently tussling over which auspicious dishes are mandatory vs catering to allergies etc).

Thank goodness my new clothes and shoes have been purchased over the last 2 rounds of fashion sales though. That's one less thing to worry about...

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Whew! You need to rest and forify yourself for the next few weeks to survive all that!

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@Qingdao I am already cringing at the prospect of answering yet another round of nosey questions from the elders about (in no particular order): my marital status and my weight. *Eyerolls all around*

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I’m losing track of time so when I saw your “(in 3 years)”, I had to count from the year of the pigs when my son was born to this year, and realised you must have meant “in 3 weeks” 🙂

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Dramas this year have featured lead actors that are a bit too youthful and bland for this ajumma's taste. This makes ajumma feel a little lost and worried that she is no longer the target audience. I prefer leading men with stronger flavor and seasoning. While dramas have somewhat disappointed in that regard, I have been able to count on Mom's Diary to provide weekly content of charismatic, time-tested middle-aged men. I find myself looking forward to seeing Lee Sang Min and Lee Dong Gun every week on this show. Some may find their stories depressing, but as someone who lost a father just a few years ago, I can relate to their stories of loss and it's cathartic. In the latest episode, Lee Dong Gun mentioned that his career has not gone as well as he'd hoped for the past 20 years. It just made me sad thinking of all the fine actors in their 40's who are just languishing away on the shelf. A few examples: Lee Dong Gun, Kim Ji Seok, Song Jong Ho, Seo Do Young. They always light up the screen with their charisma and handsome faces and I would love to see them in their suit-wearing, long-legged oppa glory on a more regular basis, as much as I'm seeing all these "newbies" such as Rowoon and Cha Eun Woo.

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Lee Dong-Gun had a personal life that influenced his image to the public.

But I think it was the same for them, they were famous when they were young and took the place of the older actors.

Otherwise, there are dramas with older actors but maybe they don't make the same buzz like Tell That You Love Me.

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@ahjummaaa - You have warmed this fellow-ahjumma's heart! I get so much more of a thrill watching actors with a bit of mileage on them than the fresh-faced crop of 20- and early 30-somethings. Age imparts a depth of experience and understanding that's simply not available to younger actors, no matter how talented. When I'm watching Ahn Hyo-Seop or Song Kang, my reaction is generally, "how cute!" (or charming, sweet, pretty, etc.) If it's the likes of Ji Sung, Jang Hyuk, or Zo In-Sung, then it's, "I'd like to spend some time with THIS guy!" At the moment, I'm just finishing up Tell Me That You Love Me, and swooning mightily over Jung Woo-Sung—creases and all. I'm also in the middle of group-watching My Secret Terrius, swooning lustfully like the show's ahjumma moms every time So Ji-Sub appears.

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yes! I watched the first ep of Tell Me That You Love Me and I want to see more male (and female) leads in their 40's and 50's!

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Zo In-Sung, swoon! I still swoon over Ji Jin-Hee (Jewel in the Palace, Move to Heaven, DP2). Oh Ji-Ho (Slave Hunters, Hotel Del Luna) and Jung Woo-Sung (Padam Padam). I still need to see Tell Me That You Love Me and The Wind That Blows soon...

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I am with you on this! Too many baby-faces that are half my age. And the 30'something looks too young to be realistic in any job with responsibilities.
Thus I'm going back to crime shows.

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One other option is to watch shows for the older SMLs and just ignore the juvenile MLs. If you don’t otherwise have an aversion to Lee Dong-Gun, check him out in Sketch or Seven-Day Queen. Jang Hyuk in Bloody Heart, My Country: The New Age, or Greasy Melo. (Okay, I’ll admit I can’t ignore ML Junho in the last one.) I’m sure there are lots of other examples, but my brain is in mush mode at the moment.

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Thanks! I should confess that I'm not fond of Jang Hyuk. I've been told that I was unlucky by seeing im in Voice and Tell me what you saw, nevertheless I'll wait a few months before another tentative.
Queen for seven days is on my list.
Currently I'm watching Mr Sunshine and Undercover, so currently I'm fine.

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I have seen lots of Jang Hyuk's dramas and I have to confess that Greasy Melo is the only one I liked him, and his acting, in, though I never got SLS.
I think he was amazing in Bad Papa too, but the show was so violent that I had to drop it very early on.

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Those are two of his worst shows! I’d also steer you away from A Beautiful Mind.

He’s given outstanding performances in a number of genres. I loved his over-the-top performance in Fated to Love You. He gave me serious SLS in Greasy Melo (a.k.a. Wok of Love. He was a standout in several historical dramas, including Chuno, Bloody Heart, and My Country: The New Age. If makjang revenge dramas are your cup of tea, check him out in Money Flower. There are still quite a few of his shows I’ve yet to check off on my list.

Can you tell I’m a big Jang Hyuk fan? 😁

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Lee Dong-Wook is currently starring in THE SHOP FOR KILLERS.

That one's really good (unless you're not a fan of the Action/Crime genre).

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I mean "A" Shop For Killers.

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Though I couldn’t tell you why, I’ve never really been able to warm up to Lee Dong-Wook. I wouldn’t avoid a show just because he’s in it, though, so I might check out A Shop for Killers. I do like the genre.

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I've never warmed up to him either... until A SHOP FOR KILLERS.

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I’ve added it to my watch list. Thanks for the recommendation!

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I have no idea why, but my brain starts screaming "this is the end of the world" everytime there's an earthquake. It doesn't matter the magnitude, I get so scared I could cry.

This morning we had one. It's hilarious to say "IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD", when it wasn't even a thing in the entire country, just my region.

In my defense this is the strongest earthquake I've lived (5,6) at least that I remember, and it felt long as heck, eternal. I went to sleep literally shaking, I was scared and all, but the only thing I could think while lying in bed was "wtf is wrong with my priorities".

I was sure this was the end of me, and the entire world, but I literally didn't care about that. All I could think was "my mom's right. It's important with which clothes you go to sleep... Do I get to take my hoodie or it's too late?". *Face palm*

I was feeling bad for not thinking of my family in a situation like that, so I told my mom and she laughed at me. She said "ha, I slept with the perfect clothes".
My mom always knows what to say.

Happy weekend, beanies de mi corazón. 💚 I hope you all had a good week.

Fun fact: Youtube only recommends me k-content, but apparently my obsession with The Bear has been so intense even youtube noticed it. YT decided to recommend me all their award moments (I had no idea we were on awards season). They won almost everything. I'm happy for them, I hope the attention makes it hard for FOX to cancel the show anytime soon (I need at least ten seasons). And I'm so happy for Ayo, she was my favorite in 2023. She was in not only in my favorite tv show (the Bear), but also my favorite 2023 movie (bottoms).

PS. What's wrong with people? how can you ask about an underwear commercial to someone that just won an award for their acting? All the beanies that voted on the Would you rather poll for the cringeworthy commercial... think it twice. Remember the world we live in. I say it for your own good.

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So glad you lived another day and the earthquake was a minor one. Mum’s are always practical!
Hope you have a lovely weekend.

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Thank you, mother bean. I hope you have a lovely weekend too. 🥰

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earthquakes are scary, aren't they? especially not knowing when and where they would be happening. I moved to an earthquake prone area a few years ago, and have been woken up in the middle of the night from earthquakes. it is quite the experience.

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There was an earthquake while I was on holiday and I sent up prayers of gratitude that we were on land at that point, if we had been on the cruise ship I would have feared a tsunami more. It’s funny I didn’t worry about that occuring even though the hotel was right on the beach!

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Really scary. I tend to imagine the worse case scenarios even when I'm just crossing the street. So experiencing something so "random" and out of my control it's too much for me.

I can't imagine how difficult it most be to wake up like that. It isn't easy to get used to it, is it?

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Earthquake--yikes! Colombia? If you've seen The Bear, have you seen "Beef" on Netflix, featuring Korean American actors.

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Yep! ^^
Nope. 😔 I've had Beef on my watchlist since day one, but I never felt like pressing play.

But now that you've mention the show in the same sentence as The Bear, I feel motivated to give it a try! 😌

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I continue to stew over the whole Lee Sun-Kyun tragedy/debacle. I applaud director Bong Joon-Ho and his fellow creative artists for using their high public profile to demand an investigation into whether police misconduct contributed to the actor's suicide. But Bong and his industry colleagues should consider using their clout to attack the underlying issue: career-destroying public condemnation of artists who are found to be using drugs.

To begin with, continue to hire them. The increasing worldwide popularity of all things Hallyu would seem to make it feasible to employ artists—like Yoo Ah-In, for instance—whose reputations in Korea have been tarnished by even the rumor of drug use. There are lots of other countries where it would not be an issue.

It's bad enough that these actors aren't getting any new work; it's my understanding that there are films and dramas that have already been completed, but not released because a cast member has become tainted by scandal. It's an injustice not only to the actor in question, but to everyone who put in the work and invested the money to create the show. And it's depriving Kdrama and Korean film lovers all over the world, including those of us who live in places where drug use isn't an automatic career-ender.

The South Korean television and film industries and their international partners should show some courage. If there are laws forbidding these shows from being shown in South Korea, there's always the rest of the world. And if these "pariah" actors are allowed to remain in the international public's eye—for their brilliant performances rather than for their alleged drug use—it might begin to soften attitudes in South Korea.

So production and distribution companies—I'm looking at you, Netflix—grow a spine! You've already spent the money to produce the shows, so why not let the rest of the world see them?

I have no doubt that there are legal, contractual, and financial issues that would be a barrier to at least some of what I've suggested. It may all be wishful thinking on my part. But I'd be heartened to see any kind of attempt at effecting positive change.

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I thought the underlying issue was 'hostess bars' in Korea being dens of iniquity for rich privileged men.

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Is anyone else having problems with a kind of ick factor watching LTNS and it's temporal juxtaposition with Lee Sun Kyun's death. I wonder how the actors feel.....

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Have we ever scene Song Kang wearing a gat? in a hanbok? in a historical drama? https://www.tiktok.com/@rainbowklip/video/7305088422283136262

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Hello Beanies!! It's me!

DB is a big part of my usual day to day, I know that and yet I didn't really realise just how big a role it played in grounding routine until I found myself accidentally going off the grid 😭 Not only that, but without realising this had become my like 'diary' for the better part of two years and a bit, so going off grid also meant no avenue for expression and that was WILD.

But yes, I basically had two weeks left of my Christmas vacation time which was spent on going to a lot of surprise engagement parties/celebrations, baby births, saying yes to spontaneous road-trips and day trips, and then a whole week of basically living court-side at the Australian Open! It was super fun, but I don't usually go out much at all so this flurry of non stop activity meant I was basically passing out cold every night when I came home - as a result the drama watching came to a standstill and now there's a fair few drama eps I have to catch up on, as well as recap threads here 😬

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Welcome back🥳 That sounds really busy but a lot of recharging by reconnecting and being part of special moments personally and in the sports world.

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Thank you Mother Bean 💜 It was indeed, though I'm now also looking forward to settling back into the more quieter routine of work, a few occasional catch ups, and drama watching!!

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Hey, was missing you! Glad you are fine and enjoying AO courtside! (I envy you for sure 😅). Take care and keep yourself warm and healthy. You are precious even when you are offline 🙂

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You are the sweetest Anne - that last line made my heart feel so warm and fuzzy especially 🥰

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

I am feeling a bit uneasy after being called out by both of my therapists this week.

I wrote a draft of a future medical file and removed some information that was no longer the case. Or so I thought. My therapist added the information again and put extra emphasis on it.

I discussed my weekly schedule with the other psychologist and she noticed too many instances of me planning and living like a non-autistic person, which is very harmful for people on the spectrum. Our next session will take place mid-March and by then I must hand in some of my week plannings to go over together.

I have no problem understanding and admitting that both are right, and they both are very kind and helpful to me. However, I struggle to grant myself the same courtesy. I feel bad for not being yet at the point I thought I was, I feel ashamed to show my shortcomings in planning, and I currently lack the ideas and courage to empty my schedule and start all over again.

As January is left mostly empty, I am taking a break to indulge in K-dramas and movies until busier February at the latest. I do hope I can recharge enough to tackle the big changes afterwards.🙏

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Wow, to be able to hear them and accept that you need to be as kind to yourself and look out for your future self too❤️, all in one week, hard won progress💪🏾. I hope the down time this month continues to be a blessing.

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Thank you, the downtown has helped a lot! :)

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Planning is difficult for everyone, keep on trying.

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Thank you for the encouragement, I needed to hear this. :)

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He will learn an instrument and play it in different ceremony or festivals. Sometimes, they sing and dance too.

A lot of celebrities (idols) are in the military bands.

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