I finished Bubblegum! The OTP/lead actors (I love LDW) definitely carried the show. But, the second FL was an interesting character and they showed one of the best depictions of a psychiatrist I’ve seen in kdramas. The show had a lot to say about what it means to be “caring”: when caring becomes a burden, when caring should be a burden, when caring can be mutually beneficial, etc. I loved that the OTP learned how to find their middle ground and become better people for it.
Well, you just have to quickly detect the possible spoilet and scroll down.
It happens to me with shows airing I’m not watching right know but I want to watch 🤷🏼♀️
I survived Father is Strange, or better named Everybody Lies. Literally no one learned their lesson about lying. There was enough charm in the show to see me through 52 episodes, but I wished the characters would have been more likable overall. I could give a ten-mile rant, but really it had enough squeal-worthy moments and humorous ones that I’ll remember the show fondly enough.
At some I remember really, really not liking the older sister and her husband and his entire family plot lines and ff whenever any of them came on screen. She was only tolerable for me when she was with her sisters.
I muted the mother-in-law half the time. She was just so unreasonable and screechy.
Agree about the oldest sister. Everyone praised her confidence but her confidence just fueled her selfishness and self-righteousness. She was great when defending her dad at the end and when she realized how much her husband was there for her though.
It’s been a long time but I remember liking most characters and that one of the nice things about the angst was that the lies were there for a reason. What choice did the parents really have? I got curious which lie made you say that kkk.
All of them haha
But the main 2:
1) Oldest sis moving in with her boyfriend – I get the desire to skip the argument with family and just lying for the easier way out but when she got caught, she took zero responsibility for lying and acted all self-righteous blaming the parents for being old-fashioned. I would have been on her side if she had told them the truth and when they denied her request, she left anyway. But, her lying so she didn’t have to deal with the argument that she was soooo certain she was right about was cowardly of her and gave her no grounds to stand on when she was caught.
2) The mom and dad’s lie – I understand their reason but everyone acted like they had no other choice. They did. It wouldn’t have been an easy life, but they could have chosen to not steal someone else’s identity. The range of them being absolutely shameless about their lie (mainly the mom) and being self-destructive because of their lie was frustrating. The past is the past. They made a terrible decision, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve just punishment (versus the worst punishment available like the dad wanted; also they got away with with a lie that the wife didn’t know anything) or that she deserves to have cancer with no one knowing (another frustrating lie). I mean obviously we wouldn’t have had much of a show without this lie, so it was more how the fallout was handled by the parents.
Honorable mentions:
The brother having a girlfriend, Yuju being a bully (Miyeong using her lie as blackmail), why the oldest sis broke up with the boyfriend originally, the marriage internship, and the MiL’s fake cast.
I had completely forgotten about most of this as I imagined eheheh. The older sister lied because she was a practical person and took the easy way out, it was also probably done to please the weekender audience, to show she was afraid of parents and society’s prejudices.
The parents big lie was very understandable for me and I liked how the children acted about it. The bully was terrible and I never liked her plot. I guess I liked most characters for being more real than average kdrama family members.
I think my like for Yuju was the most consistant and I think this is where the writing partly failed. I know the show was trying to make me not like her from the start with the pre-knowledge that she was a bully. However, Mi-yeong was genuinely horrible at her job at the start and the times where Yuju was “bullying” her were her actually being a boss who expects competency from her employees. Mi-yeong was always the one overreacting in her avoidance of Yuju. So, while I understood in the past Yuju was bad, the present made it seem like Mi-yeong was only victimizing herself. When Mi-yeong learned Yuju was her brother’s girlfriend, Mi-yeong came out as spiteful and vindictive, demanding Yuju do what she says or she’ll rat her out to the whole family. It wasn’t until waaaaaaay later when Yuju came to the realization how much of a bully she was that it really was spelled out how bad she treated Mi-yeong and how unapologetic she had been before. If her unapologetic nature had been spelled out before Miyeong was blackmailing her or if she had continued the fat jokes at the workplace, then I would have not liked her just like Mi-yeong didn’t. As it was though, the writers just assumed that viewers would hold a grudge just as much as Mi-yeong. They were right for the most part but just not with me lol
I’m going to disagree because show made obvious that the bully was still a bully, she took pleasure humiliating her because the boss was a weak person, selfish and insecure. Spiteful and vindictive? Anyone would have reacted the same, I thought her reaction was insanely kind to a person that didn’t deserve it, for herself and to give everybody a chance to understand, she should have just told the entire family her reasons to avoid that woman.
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When exactly did she humiliate her though when they met up at work? Miyeong would bring the wrong stuff to her or not know what Yuju was asking her to bring and Yuju would have to spell it out to her when it was information Miyeong should have known for her job.
Her blackmailing Yuju wasn’t out of the kindness of her heart in hoping Yuju would change on her own. She was literally telling her she better get on her knees and apologize or she’ll tell her brother how horrible she *used* to be. And originally, Miyeong never even had an actual conversation with Yuju with what she did. Yuju was the one who kept having to seek her out to try to talk out their problem but Miyeong would rudely ignore her. When Miyeong finally talked to her, she was just like you know what you did so apologize when bullies rarely realize the gravity of their actions. She should have been because you said this this and this in high school I was negatively affected this this and this way. Yuju realized on her own how bad she really was when she met up with her hs friends and they were bullying Miyeong and that is when Yuju gave her the sincere apology.
Yuju definitely wasn’t perfect either and there were some lines she said that were genuinely mean or thoughtless, but I think a lot of people hated on her too much because the writers painstakenly painted Miyeong as a victim. I saw Miyeong as her own worst enemy and when she finally decided to not be defined by her history, that is when she really blossomed. Her romance with Jonghee and Rayoung’s romance with Chulsoo ended up being my favorite storylines.
Yuju was purposely being mean to her at work. Making her carry all that heavy stuff just to bully her. Making it seem like things were Mi Young fault and she was incompetent when she really wasn’t.
Yuju wasn’t being sincere or even polite when trying to talk things out. She was rude and victim-blaming whenever she talked to Mi Young.
Why would Mi Young be kind to Yuju when she tortured her all through high school and tried to do the same thing at work? Mi Young’s direct boss even had to step in because Yuju was being ridiculous.
She wasn’t blackmailing her, she wanted a sincere apology but as usual, Yuju felt like Mi Young deserved the treatment she was giving her. Mi Young was too kind because the average person would have just told the brother and objected to them moving in.
One of my favorite scenes, that I rewatch often, is when Hae Young checked Yuju at lunch. IT made me so happy that someone finally had Mi Young’s back.
Thanks so much @thatstp!
I don’t like to talk so much about bullying and I was not believing I would have to explain the reasons MY did what she did, thanks for saying it all before I even tried to remember! kkk
You are absolutely right, most people, would never asked her for an apology, they would have simply told the truth to the family, not only to explain herself but to make the brother really know the person he would get married. She didn’t do that because she considered her brother’s feelings and disregarded her own, trying to solve it with a simple apology.
@thatstp ah, I had forgotten about the boxes. Fair enough. But, Miyeong really was incompetent at work. Yuju or another worker would ask for a specific belt or jacket and she would just go grab a random one. If you work at in a place for fashion, you have to know the fashion lingo and brands. I can’t remember who, probably her boss, but someone was finally like here are some fashion books you need to study to Miyeong. Only then did she bother to research her job and got better at it. There was a scene later where she recognized the brand was wrong and fixed it because she finally knew what she was doing.
Yuju was rude because she didn’t understand what she did because Miyeong never bothered to tell her. Bullies don’t get how bad their actions are. They just don’t. So to assume she magically knew is presumptuous. Miyeong had ample opportunity to spell it out and she didn’t even when she had the upperhand. It wasn’t until like the 4th conversation after blackmailing her that Miyeong was like you called me this and did this and that made me feel like this. I do wish she had told the brother though. Not to ruin the relationship but he may have helped in trying to reconicle them and he did have the right to know Yuju’s history.
That is one of the worst excuse for bullies, thinking they don’t understand what they are doing. They do and they like it. Even after @thatstp explained to you why the apology was necessary you keep saying it was blackmailing, that’s how much the mentality of victim blaming has a dangerous effect on society.
Because that is exactly how Miyeong presented the desire for an apology. She could have demanded one before she knew Yuju was dating her brother and did not. One argument could be that she only wanted an apology once she knew she would have to spend even more time with Yuju or that having the upperhand finally gave her the courage she always needed. Those are fair points, but it was still presented exactly as blackmail. You do this or else. Fighting a bully with blackmail is only going to make them mad. It’s not going to make them realize where they went wrong. Yuju realized where she went wrong when she saw first hand the bully behavior her friends displayed towards Miyeong. Those are the kinds of moments realization hits. Not being put in a corner.
I do realize I’ve been speaking in universals and every bully and every situation is going to be different. Some do bully just for the thrill but not all. In this specific case, I think the writers handled the entire case poorly (which was my original point). For me, they didn’t build enough sympathy towards Miyeong for me to be on her side *before* her extreme actions. They could have rearranged the story better to emphasis their history and the unapologetic nature of Yuju instead of waiting until much later to really reveal everything. If they had, then I may have better understood why this was Miyeong’s only option/last resort.
How? If the bully is her boss or someone in a higher position even in high school, she couldn’t have asked for an apology or demanded as you say. And, she never had the upperhand, all the bullied can do is deal with it, forgive and forget it. Again you say she always needed courage, blaming the victim and ignoring how much courage she had being bullied in school and on the job and hiding it from her family.
Miyeong gained the upperhand when she had the opportunity to tell her brother about the bullying that would ruin their relationship. People being bullied do not just have the one option of dealing with it, forgiving, and forgetting. They can stand up to the bully whether that person is higher ranked or not, but yes it takes courage. And, how they stand up to the bully makes a huge difference between being effective and making it worse. I *never* blamed Miyeong for being bullied. I blame her for how she dealt with being bullied years after the fact. That is a very key difference and not victim blaming.
That isn’t the upperhand, MY wouldn’t erase anything by telling the truth, she would gain nothing except understanding from her family, ruining the relationship, if that even happened, would not have pleased anyone. Standing up to the bullies IS dealing with it but it takes courage whether one does it or not. But no, HOW they stand up to them does not always make any difference. That is just what people who don’t really know about it like to believe and once again, that is victim blaming.
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We are just stuck on an endless loop at this point. However, I do want to be clear that I am not victim blaming. I *never* said Miyeong deserved to be bullied (in the past or present). Placing any other definition into that word is incorrect. When talking about work, I was claiming that a boss demanding competency is not bullying. I did forget about the boxes so I do agree that that instance would be bullying.
I do know exactly what it means to be bullied and why I am being so passionate about this topic. Those bullied need to be armed with the best way to handle bullies and that can start with depicting correct and effective methods in media (why we see PSA commercials about drugs to alcohol to bullying). Silence or bullying a bully back are not correct or effective methods of resistance. FiS actually proves that point itself. Miyeong was negatively effected when she remained silent by having low self-esteem for years. It wasn’t until Miyeong decided not to be silent that she started to regain her confidence. However, her method of standing up failed because Yuju did not get what she did and did not feel remorse. It wasn’t until Yuju witnessed similar behavior from her friends that she understood her own bad behavior and felt truly sorry. The method of confrontation had everything to do with how a bully reacted.
I finished the Three Colors Fantasy triology!
1) Star of the Universe – such a great show! The story is well-written and the characters are very relatable. The world is well-built and humorous. The meta about idol life doesn’t just concentrate on the pretty parts. It takes the time to show how idols can be constricted and hurt by the lifestyle. Also, nose bops are the most adorable thing ever.
2) Romance Full of Life – not as good as SotU, but it has some really interesting commentary on self-worth about how we see ourselves and how we think others see us. The only downfall really was my favorite sidekick, Kang Ki-young, played a horrible character, and not even an intentionally villanious character.
3) Queen of the Ring – so so so horrible. I’m so glad I didn’t start with this one cause I would have just stopped. I thought at first that maybe they are making the situation so extreme to emphasis the moment when Seulgi’s character realizes that she’s beautiful no matter what people say, but nope. Until the very end, she thinks she’s ugly. I think we were suppose to be ok with the ML thinking she’s pretty and that’s all we ever needed? Who needs self-esteem when your boyfriend is hot? I do give the lead actors huge props though. They both were great with what they were given.
Finished Hotel Del Luna! I loved it. The story was well done, and I really felt for all the characters. The OTP was amazing, truly supporting each other’s growth. Also, I really want IU’s wardrobe.
I finished Birth Secret! For having the makjang-est title ever, it truly subverted so many tropes and was surprisingly refreshing in how it dealt with mental illness (paranoia, amnesia, low self-esteem, etc) (and this even being from 2013). It did have some misfires, but overall it was a really enjoyable watch. I highly recommend it! (Also Kim Young-kwang is in it if people are still craving more of him)
Happy Birthday, @infinitize! You’re the best MVP and (fake) fan of Infinite that I know. I hope we have many more years to spazz over Junho and explore more Exo (well the nice side at least)!
I\’m watching Birth Secret (2013). It\’s not as makjang as the title would suggest. I mean it does have a birth secret, amnesia, and a horrific matron, but it also has a geeeenius FL (and daughter) for once, a therapist and a doctor with ethics, and an interesting premise. I\’m enjoying it so far.
Thank you @midnight and @bbstl for recommending Wok of Love! I looooved it! The OTP *gasp* communicated and the bromance was so sweet. The FL’s mom was a piece of work but otherwise totally enjoyed it
OMG I first swooned over the pic and then noticed the mention quite belatedly! You are welcome! I am VERY happy that you loved it! It is one of my most favorite shows!
I was rewatching Miss Korea the other day, which is by the same writer of WoL, and I noticed that this writer has a soft spot for Loan sharks with a heart of gold. Can’t say I don’t!! Jung Sun Saeng and his story arc is one of my most favorites EVER!
I don’t blame you at all. The first few episodes aren’t very gripping. Whenever I rewatch it I wonder how I went past episode 1 the first time. But it is totally worth it!
Oh, I’m happy you enjoy it. It kinda lost its spark in the second half, but not so much that I stopped loving it. I love the romance, I love the bromance, and it’s one of the most healthy triangle love I’ve seen portrayed on drama. And I especially in love with the weirdly frank conversation between our leads. So quirky, so honest, hilarious and on-point too.
I saw that in the comments on the recaps so I was waiting for everything to become horrible in the second half, but I still enjoyed it. The FL’s mom was horrible and I was disappointed that they made her that way and that they never actually resolve it. I do love how the OTP ended up handling it though so that at least made up for it a little.
And there were some plot points dropped in favor of food shots, but that didn’t bother me too much. I still thought it maintained it’s quality.
That last sentence perfectly sums it up. I was just amazed how natural their conversations were without making them seem like untouchable angels or unreasonable jerks. They all had some growing to do but you see how they all changed (from the thugs to the OTP) by meeting each other.
My Top 20 K-pop Songs (20-11):
I actually checked out more songs this year in kpop than I have in the past couple of years. I even discovered a new group (or two). This list is still very limited in its scope, but hope y’all find some treasures here!
20. Sunrise (Ateez) – Solitary combatted by solidarity – a sweet sentiment reflected in the lyrics and choreography
19. Somebody New (Super Junior) – Standard love song by a non-standard group – a highlight of their voices and their camaraderie
18. Obsession (Exo) – From anti-fan to 70% less opposed in considering to be obsessed with them – a catchy song and very clever concept
17. Want (Taemin) – For my own sanity, I better not want you as much as you want me to want you – perfection of a sensual concept and demonstration of his versatility
16. Butterfly (Loona) – Definitely no caterpillars – a convention defying group with strong dancers and vocals
15. Blueming (IU) – Modern flirting in a non-modern world – a sweet voice depicting a relationship growing through texting
14. Chronosaurus (Stray Kids) – Title combines 2 words; song combines 2 styles – a nice combination of singers and rappers that highlights the strengths of each other
13. Truth (Taemin) – The truth that doesn’t hurt – a love song of sincerity with vocals that prove his growth
12. You’re My (Jung Daehyun) – Underrated vocals ready to wrench your heart away – emotion-filled vocals for an emotion-packed song
11. Wave (Ateez) – Takes you along with the tides – a sunny song sure to brighten any day
Some new artist names and some new song title names for me. Looks like some B sides? One thing I miss about buying actual albums is discovering B sides.
I have the same struggle. I don’t usually enjoy discovering full albums through YouTube and much prefer the old school CD played in my car. All of these btracks have either official mvs that were released after the main single (like Somebody New) or they were the btrack performed live before their promoted single (like Sunrise). The only one you’ll be stuck with an unofficial video for is Taemin’s Truth because I do have that album and learned about it that way.
Hope you enjoy some new tracks/artists! Let me know your thoughts!
My Top 20 K-pop Songs (10-1):
10. Above the Time (IU) – Clever sequel I never knew I needed – a beautiful continuation that builds an even more complex, beautiful world
9. 365 (Loona) – I need another year with these vocals – a beautiful ballad highlighting their vocal strength
8. Stay Beautiful (Jimin Park) – If you say so with that voice – a wonderful message with a well-controlled voice
7. Wonderland (Ateez) – Where can I buy a ticket? – a power anthem brought to life by 8 very charismatic men
6. Monologue (Taemin) – Grab your tissues – a dual-meaning song about a lover lost or possibly a loved one lost that reaches to your heart by an emotional performance
5. Orange Drive (Bang Yongguk) – Road trip always moving onward – a meaningful song from someone always digging deeper into the meaning of living
4. Ain’t That Pretty (Ailee) – Rock what you got – a self-love anthem presented by someone who gets it
3. I Wanna Be (Key) – Don’t we all? – an addictively awesome bop with a fun video and dance
2. Hala Hala (Ateez) – Let me grab my megaphone – a perfect representation of how to combine strong vocals, strong rap, and strong performance
1. Love Poem (IU) – A song needed to be heard – a timely song that speaks to those needing relief and to those giving it by a woman who has shown strength and poise in the face of tragedies
Me too. IU is just remarkable and I’m glad that 2019 has been a very good year for her. Blueming was a particular favorite and accompanied me a lot during my commute to and from the office. All other songs in her album have been gems, mainly because of IU’s writing.
I definitely want to buy her album! I’m sure it would be on repeat. She’s really proven herself as a strong songwriter over the years. I can’t wait to see what more she’ll have for us.
I will remember Jonghyun as an artist, as a beautiful human being, as an inspiration. I will remember the moments of happiness and the moments of sadness because he never shied away from laughing or crying. I hope we can express ourselves even better. Never be afraid to open up to people. There is a higher risk but also a higher reward.
I swear, back in the OG days before the agencies were messed up and everyone was friends with everyone, I can guarantee you that the dressing rooms of DB5K, SUJU, and SHINee were the loudest ROFL
Haha oh for sure. Suju is still a loud mess.
I love how some worker just closes the door on them because they’re being too loud. Shinee doesn’t even care.
Hahaha so true!! SUJU still is a loud mess XDDDDD
Yea, I’ve seen this clip many times, but it was only today that I noticed the female staff in the back hahaha
I’m finishing up My Strange Hero finally. I’m liking it better this second try and understanding the reconciliation more this time. It doesn’t hurt that YSH has one of the most charming smiles.
I sympathized with the FL a little bit more this time so that helped with accepting his grace. I think the build up of the whole REVENGE IS MIIIINE didn’t help with the whole “oh nevermind. She said sorry.” They almost did too good of a job with getting us to side with him and his revenge plan. If that was toned down a little, maybe the quick reconciliations would have felt more real overall. I do like their partnership though now so that lessens the sting a little too.
I mean he wasnt necessarily wronged by her the most. He was just so hurt that she didnt believe him, not knowing that she did believe him but just felt too guilty to face him and wanted to move on, not knowing how much it mattered to him. Once that was cleared out, he had no reason to resent her. she only told them what she heard, which was the truth.
The revenge wasn’t just focused on her, though I guess she hurt him the most emotionally. His real beef is with Seho. And his mom. And the school. And the world. And hes ready to stir things up I LOVE HIM.
Question in the comments for those who have seen Signal and Memories of the Alhambra or for those who are wondering how dare those two kdramas be in the same sentence and don\’t mind spoilers.
Why did people like the ending to Signal and not to MoA? It is literally the same type of ending. The important male character is thought to be dead and in the final minute, he is revealed to be alive and in mortal danger; both FLs are racing towards him in the final seconds of the show; and both shows end before anyone knows if the ML will be alright. My general guess is that people liked Signal more overall so could stomach the ending more. But, thoughts?
I haven’t seen MoA so I can’t speak for it, but with Signal there is the fact that the story itself kind of built to the ending – all we knew was that he had disappeared, no confirmation of death. Also, it was a show where the questions of whether changing the past could affect the future, so an ending where a presumed dead character is alive is less out of nowhere. It sticks with the questions that the show has been exploring for 16 episodes even if it is a surprise.
I think part of it was that in Signal the ending felt earned by the strength of the show overall. It worked because even if you didn’t see it coming it was built into the DNA of the story itself. I have no desire to watch MoA (I made it through half an episode) but from what I gather, the writing in that show didn’t build up to its twists and therefore it didn’t “earn” its ending. The thing about good writing is that even where you don’t know what’s going to happen next, when something shocking happens it is “earned” when in retrospect it remains in keeping with the way the story and characters built to it. Think about The Sixth Sense – the first time we all saw the movie it was shocking, but when you rewatch it it makes so much sense because of subtle hints in the writing and direction.
I think that’s what most people’s argument would be. I saw the clues MoA gave to lead to that ending and so I found it earned, but I think many people were distracted by what they didn’t like to see them.
IMHO the only people who thought MoA didn’t build up well to its ending were people who were waiting for everything to end like a superhero movie and everything go back to normal at the finale. I expected extreme disaster.
Yeah there have been times where that term has been overused. My taste in female leads has definitely changed over the years to want a stronger woman as lead, but I think strength isn’t necessarily doing everything herself or never crying. It also isn’t being a brat and getting away with anything because she’s a “strong, independent” woman. It is hard to find the balance.
It was weird cause I didn’t see her as much of a potted plant as other people did. I mean she did cry a lot but she did what she could in the situation she was in. I mean she really didn’t have any means to go find her brother, she didn’t have the time to “waste” on a game, and she did her job in physically and emotionally supporting the family she had left. She joined in when she could but I’m not really sure what more she could have done. She was really there to create an emotional backbone to the whole thing.
I agree. I think Snarklyjellyfish has a good point about the ending of Signal above, but I also think the ending of MoA was not forgiven as easily just because they didn’t buy into the world in the same way. The writer could still be blamed for that, but I don’t think there was that much of a disparity as people think between the two shows.
I think people were expecting a completely different show, that is why they couldn’t buy into it. We can blame the writer, the teasers and promo people, or the viewers’ preconceprions, but it won’t change anything unfortunately.
Yeah the ones who were expecting an action-packed show didn’t get their tough FL and the ones who were expecting a romance didn’t get their fairy-tale ending.
I did a legit kdrama marathon for the first time in forever and finished TLIYE in 2 days. I really liked it for the most part. It was definitely a great binge!
I enjoyed Angel\’s Last Mission and I am really enjoying finishing Memories of the Alhambra. What other shows did everyone hate so I know what I should watch next?
Because it was SO EXACTLY like him to give her his own eye and confidently announce that he would find her where-ever she went. I loved the cheeky note the show ended on. It was exactly like Monkey King. And one knew that he would do it. As always.
@midnight ah true. I can see how it would stay in character. I don’t mind bittersweet endings but open-ended endings drive me a little crazy. I might still check it out though. There did seem to be some golden moments that would make it worth-while.
I really liked MoA too. I often love shows hated by most beanies too but whenever I post about it there usually are some beanies that have liked it too.
Yeah usually there’s someone out there who loves it even if it seems most don’t. It is nice to see those more positive posts.
I take reviews into account a lot but some of the shows I’ve most enjoyed were ones I just ignored reviews and dived in.
*high five*
I love MoA with all its flaws. I think the only thing I actually hate is the vague ending. Aside from that, it’s a drama I enjoyed watching and dissecting.
One show I remember many beanies, but not all of them, dislike is Wok of Love. I LOVE IT.
Two Cops is another one. I have rewatched both of themmany many times.
Room No.9 is another one that I have watched recently, starting it very cautiously but I love this one too.
Oh, I’m glad to hear you liked Wok of Love! I’ve been wanting to watch it for Junho but it did seem that not many people really enjoyed it. I’ll give it go!
I love Junho. He was sooo good in Chief Kim and JBL. I stopped reading recaps of WoL but can’t remember why. I do remember something about a steamy kitchen kiss lol. I think that would be a fun one for a light comedy. I should add it to my list.
The last two just never really interested me. I do love Jo Jung-suk though.
See, I was bored to tears with JBL and I had lots of issues with it that frustrated me. The only thing I liked about it was the relationship between JunHo and the second female lead near the end of the story.
I’ve heard that from others but I absolutely adore JBL and really want to rewatch it. The FSL was really awesome and I did enjoy that friendship too. The MSL got on my nerves a little but I’ve seen worse lol
Room No.9 never intrested me either until just recently when I had finished a rewatch of Lookout and was desperate for more KYK but disliked Secret Life of my Secretary. I went in just for him not knowing anything about the story, and it gripped me immediately.
Wok of Love is love. It’s disjointed at times and most of the times it felt like the writer couldn’t decide whether she wanted to go all out on the absurdity scale or not. But the oddly frank conversations are to die for (so refreshingly weird and honest). And the characters are a delight.
suspicious partner
strong woman do bongsoon
hotel del luna
vagabond
abyss
the heirs
dr jin
all shows getting hated on for very different reasons also all shows i have watched at least bits of and have both enjoyed and hated for… varying reasons
I enjoyed Suspicious Partner. It lost it’s way like midway but was still nice enough.
Strong Woman got a lot of love here I thought. I barely made it through recaps…
Hotel Del Luna is definitely on my list. That one sounded good.
Vagabond is loosely on my list. I don’t mind an action show here and there.
Recaps were fun to read for The Heirs but never would watch it. Maybe if it was back when I was watching BoF and those classics lol
I always mean to go back and read Dr Jin recaps. Heard they were pretty hilarious.
I would probably rate Strong Woman as my most disliked drama ever. Mostly because I somehow managed to watch all of the trainwreck and didn’t drop it like most other bad dramas. I give major side-eyes to anyone who say they liked it.
I’m a chronic finisher so I have a nice list of disliked ones I’ve completed. There were some core issues I had with Strong Woman (from reading recaps) that I think it was the leads chemistry that must have hard carried that show. I don’t begrudge people liking it but I will not be convinced to check it out myself.
I have stopped reading recaps to check the show a long time ago. I have found out that I enjoy shows better when I go in blind without the recappers’ first impressions, as people usually have a certain expectation from promo materials and/or production crew credits, which can ruin the first few episodes for them very easily and it shows clearly in their recap. I tend to avoid promo materials and I prefer to go in blind. That has been the best strategy for me to enjoy the most number of shows.
strong woman couldve been an interesting show and the leads were cute as buttons. but also i could write a book on how it somehow sent the exact opposite message of what it should have sent with the premise and also how it literally handled every single plotline wrong.
but also park boyoung is magic. i didnt even mind its terribleness as long as i could fast forward to her scenes. im not sure why.
@midnight I don’t rely on recaps as much as I used to. I don’t mind some bias in there cause I do come for their genuine opinion. Plus, I have my own biases too, but it can get deceiving when it’s all love or all criticism.
I also love spoilers (as long as I seek them out and they don’t ninja attack me) so I’m all for pre-reading recaps and watching promos lol. It does backfire sometimes.
Hate may be too strong of a word but people seemed to not like the plot or L all that much. I enjoyed it a lot too. Shin Hye-sun is awesome and I thought L held his own with how much goofier his role was suppose to be.
I finally finished Moonlight Drawn By Clouds! And…I didn\’t like it. Now to go find something awesome to watch as a reward before I continue my half-done list (MoA, FiS, MSH).
Mainly the whole thing. I loved the guy trio. I wished we had gotten more of their story and reconciliation. Jinyoung and Ninja (I’m so bad with character names lol) were so interesting but they barely got any screen time it felt like (and yes that ending was so pointless for him T_T). I wanted to like Ra-on but she was just unable to handle anything on her own and then she spent the second half sitting there crying. I love that actress though so I’m glad I saw her in other things first before this. The show had charm and I could see how people really were drawn to it but I just couldn’t buy into it. 😔
Ninja was awesome! I love his hair 😍
Ra On had spunk at the beginning but that kind of disappeared halfway through.
I didn’t like that the three guy’s friendship was broken up at the end 😭
His hair was really good. It looked sp bouncy. Yeah, if they focused on them reconciling that would have been so much better and meaningful than anything else in the drama.
I felt like Ra-on had spunk but was a bit too ditzy at the beginning lol
Oh! I forgot I did love CSB’s character. I think she got short-changed too by the end but she was really cool.
The fact that Jinyoung was completely sidelined was one of my biggest gripes with the show (LITERALLY NO ONE SEEMED TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE DIED???).
In general, I think MDBC had a lot of potential, and I can think of a bunch of better ways some of the side characters could’ve been used that would’ve made the show a whole lot more watchable.
It felt like the writers themselves were a little confused about whether they wanted to focus on the romance, or focus on the politics, and they just ended up not doing either one all that well, which is such a pity, because I feel like the show could’ve been really good.
Yeeeees! I’m a bana so maybe a little bias but Jinyoung did so good at selling his role in everything (and was even a better politician than the prince at times). His death scene (as ridiculous and out of character as it was) had so much omph and then everyone was like here is my single tear and the end. I also hated that it was used to justify the evil grandfather/minister to end his life. I wanted to see him get actual justice.
Yeah I can see that being the problem. They tried to bite off more than they could chew but were able to ride on the charisma of the actors.
I’m too stubborn for my own good so I hardly ever drop, but also I assumed it would get better since I heard such great reviews here. By the time I realized it wouldn’t, I was too deep in that it would have been a waste not to finish it….
Finally someone I can relate with. I loved our two leads individually but I didn’t feel any chemistry between them. This is one major reason I didn’t like the show. Also like comments have mentioned our heroin kinda lost her spunkiness as the show moved on. And I think the politics weren’t gripping enough for me..
Yeah I shouldn’t have watched CwP in between this one cause KYJ had amazing chemistry with YKS. Granted she was reeeeally young in MDBC but still…the elements were there for me to want them to be together but I just didn’t feel it.
I felt like the prince floundered with the politics a bit too much and never seemed to get the upperhand until the end when others helped him. Jinyoung had a grasp on the politics and his part was interesting, but it wasn’t focused on enough. I think they had too many players and tried to focus on all of them without giving any of them service.
“the elements were there for me to want them to be together but I just didn’t feel it” yess EXactly!!
Also this was one of my first few dramas and at that time I didn’t really know the actor/actresses well, just used to watch the drama without knowing the cast but now that you mentioned, I searched her up and she is twenty RIGHT NOW, which means she was SEVENTEEN then?? 😱😱
I did not know anyone could get a lead role at this age and that to in a romance drama!!
I’m still horrible at keeping actors straight lol.
Yeah she’s so young! She comes from being a child actress and I want to say MDBC was her first “adult” role. She was a high schooler in Angry Mom but it wasn’t a romance (awesome kdrama btw).
Haha, I am getting better 😅
Just recently discovered she was a child actress when i saw clips of her , Yeo Jin Goo and Kim So Hyun in ‘Moon Embraving The Sun’. They’ve all come a long way!
Haven’t watched ‘Angry Mom’, searched it up, the premise sounds interesting I think I’ll add it into my foot long ‘To Watch’ list😅
How is he such a beautiful human being? Every time I think I couldn’t love him more he does something wonderful and meaningful. Even if you don’t know Key, watch. Trust me. It’s worth your time.
We just finished that! Our biggest complaint was we needed more Key and Seulgi. lol
I hope he does more acting too. He has such presence on stage/camera.
K-con next week!! Yaaay! I\’m crossing fingers and toes that Dramabeans will make another appearance there. Also, I\’ll love to get together with L.A/L.A-adjacent beanies. We have a kakao group so I can add you there or we can find another way to PM each other if anyone is interested in meeting up next week!
I haven’t payed much attention to stray kids but that one boy’s voice is so deep. I hadn’t thought about it before but all those famous deep voices at one time would of been coming out of the mouth’s of babes, lol.
When I first fell down the kpop rabbit hole definitely came across some reaction videos by ReacttotheK, Dezzy March, and that producer guy.
That would be Felix (@adieunoire@ultramafic see I pay attention)
haha and that is true. My favorite deep voice in kpop is Bang Yongguk (formerly BAP). I never saw him as a kid though lol
Yeah Dezzy and PD I’m excited for too. PD was there last year but I didn’t catch him on any panels. Hopefully this year I will
Jig
May 18, 2020 at 5:08 PM
I finished Bubblegum! The OTP/lead actors (I love LDW) definitely carried the show. But, the second FL was an interesting character and they showed one of the best depictions of a psychiatrist I’ve seen in kdramas. The show had a lot to say about what it means to be “caring”: when caring becomes a burden, when caring should be a burden, when caring can be mutually beneficial, etc. I loved that the OTP learned how to find their middle ground and become better people for it.
Midnight
May 18, 2020 at 10:27 PM
I love Bubblegum.
beesgiggle
May 18, 2020 at 11:04 PM
Oh my gosh, Bubblegum! That’s one underrated drama, for sure
parkchuna Wants To Fly Not Run
May 19, 2020 at 8:32 AM
Despite its name, I think I cried buckets watching it.
Jig
May 9, 2020 at 8:05 PM
I enjoy a kdrama-themed month on a kdrama site but it does make for a mine of spoilers for old shows I haven’t gotten to yet 😂😅
Eazal
May 10, 2020 at 1:40 AM
Well, you just have to quickly detect the possible spoilet and scroll down.
It happens to me with shows airing I’m not watching right know but I want to watch 🤷🏼♀️
Jig
May 10, 2020 at 7:36 AM
That’s my usual tactic. The problem is when they start with character names or plot before they actually mention the show DX
Jig
April 18, 2020 at 7:53 PM
I survived Father is Strange, or better named Everybody Lies. Literally no one learned their lesson about lying. There was enough charm in the show to see me through 52 episodes, but I wished the characters would have been more likable overall. I could give a ten-mile rant, but really it had enough squeal-worthy moments and humorous ones that I’ll remember the show fondly enough.
marina
April 18, 2020 at 8:35 PM
I adored every single of them n I’m planning for a rewatch.
Jig
April 18, 2020 at 9:17 PM
A lot of people seem to manage to get through it twice. I’ll probably revisit certain scenes.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
April 19, 2020 at 5:38 AM
At some I remember really, really not liking the older sister and her husband and his entire family plot lines and ff whenever any of them came on screen. She was only tolerable for me when she was with her sisters.
Jig
April 19, 2020 at 7:28 AM
I muted the mother-in-law half the time. She was just so unreasonable and screechy.
Agree about the oldest sister. Everyone praised her confidence but her confidence just fueled her selfishness and self-righteousness. She was great when defending her dad at the end and when she realized how much her husband was there for her though.
Lixie
April 19, 2020 at 6:52 AM
It’s been a long time but I remember liking most characters and that one of the nice things about the angst was that the lies were there for a reason. What choice did the parents really have? I got curious which lie made you say that kkk.
Jig
April 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM
All of them haha
But the main 2:
1) Oldest sis moving in with her boyfriend – I get the desire to skip the argument with family and just lying for the easier way out but when she got caught, she took zero responsibility for lying and acted all self-righteous blaming the parents for being old-fashioned. I would have been on her side if she had told them the truth and when they denied her request, she left anyway. But, her lying so she didn’t have to deal with the argument that she was soooo certain she was right about was cowardly of her and gave her no grounds to stand on when she was caught.
2) The mom and dad’s lie – I understand their reason but everyone acted like they had no other choice. They did. It wouldn’t have been an easy life, but they could have chosen to not steal someone else’s identity. The range of them being absolutely shameless about their lie (mainly the mom) and being self-destructive because of their lie was frustrating. The past is the past. They made a terrible decision, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve just punishment (versus the worst punishment available like the dad wanted; also they got away with with a lie that the wife didn’t know anything) or that she deserves to have cancer with no one knowing (another frustrating lie). I mean obviously we wouldn’t have had much of a show without this lie, so it was more how the fallout was handled by the parents.
Honorable mentions:
The brother having a girlfriend, Yuju being a bully (Miyeong using her lie as blackmail), why the oldest sis broke up with the boyfriend originally, the marriage internship, and the MiL’s fake cast.
Lixie
April 19, 2020 at 8:31 AM
I had completely forgotten about most of this as I imagined eheheh. The older sister lied because she was a practical person and took the easy way out, it was also probably done to please the weekender audience, to show she was afraid of parents and society’s prejudices.
The parents big lie was very understandable for me and I liked how the children acted about it. The bully was terrible and I never liked her plot. I guess I liked most characters for being more real than average kdrama family members.
Jig
April 19, 2020 at 8:54 AM
I think my like for Yuju was the most consistant and I think this is where the writing partly failed. I know the show was trying to make me not like her from the start with the pre-knowledge that she was a bully. However, Mi-yeong was genuinely horrible at her job at the start and the times where Yuju was “bullying” her were her actually being a boss who expects competency from her employees. Mi-yeong was always the one overreacting in her avoidance of Yuju. So, while I understood in the past Yuju was bad, the present made it seem like Mi-yeong was only victimizing herself. When Mi-yeong learned Yuju was her brother’s girlfriend, Mi-yeong came out as spiteful and vindictive, demanding Yuju do what she says or she’ll rat her out to the whole family. It wasn’t until waaaaaaay later when Yuju came to the realization how much of a bully she was that it really was spelled out how bad she treated Mi-yeong and how unapologetic she had been before. If her unapologetic nature had been spelled out before Miyeong was blackmailing her or if she had continued the fat jokes at the workplace, then I would have not liked her just like Mi-yeong didn’t. As it was though, the writers just assumed that viewers would hold a grudge just as much as Mi-yeong. They were right for the most part but just not with me lol
Lixie
April 19, 2020 at 10:18 AM
I’m going to disagree because show made obvious that the bully was still a bully, she took pleasure humiliating her because the boss was a weak person, selfish and insecure. Spiteful and vindictive? Anyone would have reacted the same, I thought her reaction was insanely kind to a person that didn’t deserve it, for herself and to give everybody a chance to understand, she should have just told the entire family her reasons to avoid that woman.
Jig
April 19, 2020 at 11:10 AM
For the below:
When exactly did she humiliate her though when they met up at work? Miyeong would bring the wrong stuff to her or not know what Yuju was asking her to bring and Yuju would have to spell it out to her when it was information Miyeong should have known for her job.
Her blackmailing Yuju wasn’t out of the kindness of her heart in hoping Yuju would change on her own. She was literally telling her she better get on her knees and apologize or she’ll tell her brother how horrible she *used* to be. And originally, Miyeong never even had an actual conversation with Yuju with what she did. Yuju was the one who kept having to seek her out to try to talk out their problem but Miyeong would rudely ignore her. When Miyeong finally talked to her, she was just like you know what you did so apologize when bullies rarely realize the gravity of their actions. She should have been because you said this this and this in high school I was negatively affected this this and this way. Yuju realized on her own how bad she really was when she met up with her hs friends and they were bullying Miyeong and that is when Yuju gave her the sincere apology.
Yuju definitely wasn’t perfect either and there were some lines she said that were genuinely mean or thoughtless, but I think a lot of people hated on her too much because the writers painstakenly painted Miyeong as a victim. I saw Miyeong as her own worst enemy and when she finally decided to not be defined by her history, that is when she really blossomed. Her romance with Jonghee and Rayoung’s romance with Chulsoo ended up being my favorite storylines.
thatstp
April 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM
Yuju was purposely being mean to her at work. Making her carry all that heavy stuff just to bully her. Making it seem like things were Mi Young fault and she was incompetent when she really wasn’t.
Yuju wasn’t being sincere or even polite when trying to talk things out. She was rude and victim-blaming whenever she talked to Mi Young.
Why would Mi Young be kind to Yuju when she tortured her all through high school and tried to do the same thing at work? Mi Young’s direct boss even had to step in because Yuju was being ridiculous.
She wasn’t blackmailing her, she wanted a sincere apology but as usual, Yuju felt like Mi Young deserved the treatment she was giving her. Mi Young was too kind because the average person would have just told the brother and objected to them moving in.
One of my favorite scenes, that I rewatch often, is when Hae Young checked Yuju at lunch. IT made me so happy that someone finally had Mi Young’s back.
Lixie
April 20, 2020 at 6:42 AM
Thanks so much @thatstp!
I don’t like to talk so much about bullying and I was not believing I would have to explain the reasons MY did what she did, thanks for saying it all before I even tried to remember! kkk
You are absolutely right, most people, would never asked her for an apology, they would have simply told the truth to the family, not only to explain herself but to make the brother really know the person he would get married. She didn’t do that because she considered her brother’s feelings and disregarded her own, trying to solve it with a simple apology.
Jig
April 20, 2020 at 9:44 AM
@thatstp ah, I had forgotten about the boxes. Fair enough. But, Miyeong really was incompetent at work. Yuju or another worker would ask for a specific belt or jacket and she would just go grab a random one. If you work at in a place for fashion, you have to know the fashion lingo and brands. I can’t remember who, probably her boss, but someone was finally like here are some fashion books you need to study to Miyeong. Only then did she bother to research her job and got better at it. There was a scene later where she recognized the brand was wrong and fixed it because she finally knew what she was doing.
Yuju was rude because she didn’t understand what she did because Miyeong never bothered to tell her. Bullies don’t get how bad their actions are. They just don’t. So to assume she magically knew is presumptuous. Miyeong had ample opportunity to spell it out and she didn’t even when she had the upperhand. It wasn’t until like the 4th conversation after blackmailing her that Miyeong was like you called me this and did this and that made me feel like this. I do wish she had told the brother though. Not to ruin the relationship but he may have helped in trying to reconicle them and he did have the right to know Yuju’s history.
Lixie
April 20, 2020 at 10:55 AM
That is one of the worst excuse for bullies, thinking they don’t understand what they are doing. They do and they like it. Even after @thatstp explained to you why the apology was necessary you keep saying it was blackmailing, that’s how much the mentality of victim blaming has a dangerous effect on society.
Jig
April 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM
Because that is exactly how Miyeong presented the desire for an apology. She could have demanded one before she knew Yuju was dating her brother and did not. One argument could be that she only wanted an apology once she knew she would have to spend even more time with Yuju or that having the upperhand finally gave her the courage she always needed. Those are fair points, but it was still presented exactly as blackmail. You do this or else. Fighting a bully with blackmail is only going to make them mad. It’s not going to make them realize where they went wrong. Yuju realized where she went wrong when she saw first hand the bully behavior her friends displayed towards Miyeong. Those are the kinds of moments realization hits. Not being put in a corner.
I do realize I’ve been speaking in universals and every bully and every situation is going to be different. Some do bully just for the thrill but not all. In this specific case, I think the writers handled the entire case poorly (which was my original point). For me, they didn’t build enough sympathy towards Miyeong for me to be on her side *before* her extreme actions. They could have rearranged the story better to emphasis their history and the unapologetic nature of Yuju instead of waiting until much later to really reveal everything. If they had, then I may have better understood why this was Miyeong’s only option/last resort.
Lixie
April 20, 2020 at 1:23 PM
How? If the bully is her boss or someone in a higher position even in high school, she couldn’t have asked for an apology or demanded as you say. And, she never had the upperhand, all the bullied can do is deal with it, forgive and forget it. Again you say she always needed courage, blaming the victim and ignoring how much courage she had being bullied in school and on the job and hiding it from her family.
Jig
April 20, 2020 at 2:21 PM
Miyeong gained the upperhand when she had the opportunity to tell her brother about the bullying that would ruin their relationship. People being bullied do not just have the one option of dealing with it, forgiving, and forgetting. They can stand up to the bully whether that person is higher ranked or not, but yes it takes courage. And, how they stand up to the bully makes a huge difference between being effective and making it worse. I *never* blamed Miyeong for being bullied. I blame her for how she dealt with being bullied years after the fact. That is a very key difference and not victim blaming.
Lixie
April 20, 2020 at 4:00 PM
That isn’t the upperhand, MY wouldn’t erase anything by telling the truth, she would gain nothing except understanding from her family, ruining the relationship, if that even happened, would not have pleased anyone. Standing up to the bullies IS dealing with it but it takes courage whether one does it or not. But no, HOW they stand up to them does not always make any difference. That is just what people who don’t really know about it like to believe and once again, that is victim blaming.
Jig
April 20, 2020 at 6:10 PM
For the latest comment:
We are just stuck on an endless loop at this point. However, I do want to be clear that I am not victim blaming. I *never* said Miyeong deserved to be bullied (in the past or present). Placing any other definition into that word is incorrect. When talking about work, I was claiming that a boss demanding competency is not bullying. I did forget about the boxes so I do agree that that instance would be bullying.
I do know exactly what it means to be bullied and why I am being so passionate about this topic. Those bullied need to be armed with the best way to handle bullies and that can start with depicting correct and effective methods in media (why we see PSA commercials about drugs to alcohol to bullying). Silence or bullying a bully back are not correct or effective methods of resistance. FiS actually proves that point itself. Miyeong was negatively effected when she remained silent by having low self-esteem for years. It wasn’t until Miyeong decided not to be silent that she started to regain her confidence. However, her method of standing up failed because Yuju did not get what she did and did not feel remorse. It wasn’t until Yuju witnessed similar behavior from her friends that she understood her own bad behavior and felt truly sorry. The method of confrontation had everything to do with how a bully reacted.
Jig
April 9, 2020 at 10:58 PM
I finished the Three Colors Fantasy triology!
1) Star of the Universe – such a great show! The story is well-written and the characters are very relatable. The world is well-built and humorous. The meta about idol life doesn’t just concentrate on the pretty parts. It takes the time to show how idols can be constricted and hurt by the lifestyle. Also, nose bops are the most adorable thing ever.
2) Romance Full of Life – not as good as SotU, but it has some really interesting commentary on self-worth about how we see ourselves and how we think others see us. The only downfall really was my favorite sidekick, Kang Ki-young, played a horrible character, and not even an intentionally villanious character.
3) Queen of the Ring – so so so horrible. I’m so glad I didn’t start with this one cause I would have just stopped. I thought at first that maybe they are making the situation so extreme to emphasis the moment when Seulgi’s character realizes that she’s beautiful no matter what people say, but nope. Until the very end, she thinks she’s ugly. I think we were suppose to be ok with the ML thinking she’s pretty and that’s all we ever needed? Who needs self-esteem when your boyfriend is hot? I do give the lead actors huge props though. They both were great with what they were given.
Jig
March 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM
Finished Hotel Del Luna! I loved it. The story was well done, and I really felt for all the characters. The OTP was amazing, truly supporting each other’s growth. Also, I really want IU’s wardrobe.
mugyuljoie
March 30, 2020 at 4:51 AM
I miss it.
Jig
March 23, 2020 at 2:26 PM
Hope everyone stays healthy, and remember, Beanies, don’t touch your
JiaYou
March 23, 2020 at 6:46 PM
OMG I love this song! I had a hard case of LSS of this before 😍
earthna
March 23, 2020 at 8:45 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Edgar Pordwed
March 27, 2020 at 7:09 AM
😂😂
Jig
February 14, 2020 at 8:02 PM
I finished Birth Secret! For having the makjang-est title ever, it truly subverted so many tropes and was surprisingly refreshing in how it dealt with mental illness (paranoia, amnesia, low self-esteem, etc) (and this even being from 2013). It did have some misfires, but overall it was a really enjoyable watch. I highly recommend it! (Also Kim Young-kwang is in it if people are still craving more of him)
Jig
January 30, 2020 at 6:32 AM
Happy Birthday, @infinitize! You’re the best MVP and (fake) fan of Infinite that I know. I hope we have many more years to spazz over Junho and explore more Exo (well the nice side at least)!
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM
Yay happy birthday fini! 🥳 🎂
Infinitize
January 30, 2020 at 10:01 AM
Thank you famy!
Infinitize
January 30, 2020 at 10:01 AM
*gasp* My fake fan status has been outed! bahah
Thank you so much, Jig! I’m dying at that last picture of D.O. Just what did you search in order to get that picture? Hmm? XD
Jig
January 30, 2020 at 10:25 AM
I rather not admit. The sacrifices I make for you…
Infinitize
January 30, 2020 at 1:49 PM
You’re a good friend, Jig. Don’t listen to any of this unfriend business.
Jig
January 30, 2020 at 2:50 PM
I know better than to 😜
Jig
January 27, 2020 at 12:05 PM
I\’m watching Birth Secret (2013). It\’s not as makjang as the title would suggest. I mean it does have a birth secret, amnesia, and a horrific matron, but it also has a geeeenius FL (and daughter) for once, a therapist and a doctor with ethics, and an interesting premise. I\’m enjoying it so far.
Jig
January 17, 2020 at 9:56 AM
Thank you @midnight and @bbstl for recommending Wok of Love! I looooved it! The OTP *gasp* communicated and the bromance was so sweet. The FL’s mom was a piece of work but otherwise totally enjoyed it
Midnight
January 17, 2020 at 10:25 AM
OMG I first swooned over the pic and then noticed the mention quite belatedly! You are welcome! I am VERY happy that you loved it! It is one of my most favorite shows!
Jig
January 17, 2020 at 11:35 AM
They do look good, don’t they? I need to get myself a guy who looks and cooks like Poong.
Midnight
January 17, 2020 at 12:49 PM
They definitely do!
mugyuljoie
January 17, 2020 at 12:21 PM
Loan shark with a heart of gold and Dim Sum (the cute kitten) too!
Midnight
January 17, 2020 at 12:53 PM
I was rewatching Miss Korea the other day, which is by the same writer of WoL, and I noticed that this writer has a soft spot for Loan sharks with a heart of gold. Can’t say I don’t!! Jung Sun Saeng and his story arc is one of my most favorites EVER!
Jig
January 17, 2020 at 1:56 PM
Oooh I didn’t realize that. I watched the first episode (or maybe first 2) then ended up watching something else. It’s still on my list though.
Midnight
January 17, 2020 at 6:40 PM
I don’t blame you at all. The first few episodes aren’t very gripping. Whenever I rewatch it I wonder how I went past episode 1 the first time. But it is totally worth it!
Jig
January 18, 2020 at 6:36 AM
I think the ML frustrated me or something. It’s been awhile. But, I’ll definitely give it another shot at some point.
Jig
January 17, 2020 at 1:55 PM
The true OTP. He has become one of my favorite second leads. He was just so sweet and heartfelt but then he could beat up everyone all smoothly.
bbstl
January 17, 2020 at 2:44 PM
Glad you watched and love it! I wanted that kitty.
Jig
January 17, 2020 at 3:05 PM
I want one too. I had a kitten like that but he’s a huge cat now and lives with my parents lol
bbstl
January 17, 2020 at 6:26 PM
awwwwwwww! 😸
gadis | Going through my lo~~ng to-watch list 📝
January 17, 2020 at 3:33 PM
Oh, I’m happy you enjoy it. It kinda lost its spark in the second half, but not so much that I stopped loving it. I love the romance, I love the bromance, and it’s one of the most healthy triangle love I’ve seen portrayed on drama. And I especially in love with the weirdly frank conversation between our leads. So quirky, so honest, hilarious and on-point too.
Jig
January 18, 2020 at 6:49 AM
I saw that in the comments on the recaps so I was waiting for everything to become horrible in the second half, but I still enjoyed it. The FL’s mom was horrible and I was disappointed that they made her that way and that they never actually resolve it. I do love how the OTP ended up handling it though so that at least made up for it a little.
And there were some plot points dropped in favor of food shots, but that didn’t bother me too much. I still thought it maintained it’s quality.
That last sentence perfectly sums it up. I was just amazed how natural their conversations were without making them seem like untouchable angels or unreasonable jerks. They all had some growing to do but you see how they all changed (from the thugs to the OTP) by meeting each other.
Jig
December 30, 2019 at 10:42 PM
My Top 20 K-pop Songs (20-11):
I actually checked out more songs this year in kpop than I have in the past couple of years. I even discovered a new group (or two). This list is still very limited in its scope, but hope y’all find some treasures here!
20. Sunrise (Ateez) – Solitary combatted by solidarity – a sweet sentiment reflected in the lyrics and choreography
19. Somebody New (Super Junior) – Standard love song by a non-standard group – a highlight of their voices and their camaraderie
18. Obsession (Exo) – From anti-fan to 70% less opposed in considering to be obsessed with them – a catchy song and very clever concept
17. Want (Taemin) – For my own sanity, I better not want you as much as you want me to want you – perfection of a sensual concept and demonstration of his versatility
16. Butterfly (Loona) – Definitely no caterpillars – a convention defying group with strong dancers and vocals
15. Blueming (IU) – Modern flirting in a non-modern world – a sweet voice depicting a relationship growing through texting
14. Chronosaurus (Stray Kids) – Title combines 2 words; song combines 2 styles – a nice combination of singers and rappers that highlights the strengths of each other
13. Truth (Taemin) – The truth that doesn’t hurt – a love song of sincerity with vocals that prove his growth
12. You’re My (Jung Daehyun) – Underrated vocals ready to wrench your heart away – emotion-filled vocals for an emotion-packed song
11. Wave (Ateez) – Takes you along with the tides – a sunny song sure to brighten any day
Beverly
December 30, 2019 at 11:36 PM
Some new artist names and some new song title names for me. Looks like some B sides? One thing I miss about buying actual albums is discovering B sides.
Going to try some of these out tomorrow.
Jig
December 31, 2019 at 12:12 AM
I have the same struggle. I don’t usually enjoy discovering full albums through YouTube and much prefer the old school CD played in my car. All of these btracks have either official mvs that were released after the main single (like Somebody New) or they were the btrack performed live before their promoted single (like Sunrise). The only one you’ll be stuck with an unofficial video for is Taemin’s Truth because I do have that album and learned about it that way.
Hope you enjoy some new tracks/artists! Let me know your thoughts!
Infinitize
December 31, 2019 at 9:06 PM
I had to brutally cut Ateez from my list, but they really have had one heck of a year. Standouts for me were Wave, Aurora, and Wonderland.
Jig
December 30, 2019 at 10:42 PM
My Top 20 K-pop Songs (10-1):
10. Above the Time (IU) – Clever sequel I never knew I needed – a beautiful continuation that builds an even more complex, beautiful world
9. 365 (Loona) – I need another year with these vocals – a beautiful ballad highlighting their vocal strength
8. Stay Beautiful (Jimin Park) – If you say so with that voice – a wonderful message with a well-controlled voice
7. Wonderland (Ateez) – Where can I buy a ticket? – a power anthem brought to life by 8 very charismatic men
6. Monologue (Taemin) – Grab your tissues – a dual-meaning song about a lover lost or possibly a loved one lost that reaches to your heart by an emotional performance
5. Orange Drive (Bang Yongguk) – Road trip always moving onward – a meaningful song from someone always digging deeper into the meaning of living
4. Ain’t That Pretty (Ailee) – Rock what you got – a self-love anthem presented by someone who gets it
3. I Wanna Be (Key) – Don’t we all? – an addictively awesome bop with a fun video and dance
2. Hala Hala (Ateez) – Let me grab my megaphone – a perfect representation of how to combine strong vocals, strong rap, and strong performance
1. Love Poem (IU) – A song needed to be heard – a timely song that speaks to those needing relief and to those giving it by a woman who has shown strength and poise in the face of tragedies
mugyuljoie
December 31, 2019 at 12:49 AM
IU’s entire album is my favorite this year.
DoubleFault
December 31, 2019 at 9:10 AM
Me too. IU is just remarkable and I’m glad that 2019 has been a very good year for her. Blueming was a particular favorite and accompanied me a lot during my commute to and from the office. All other songs in her album have been gems, mainly because of IU’s writing.
Jig
December 31, 2019 at 9:29 AM
I definitely want to buy her album! I’m sure it would be on repeat. She’s really proven herself as a strong songwriter over the years. I can’t wait to see what more she’ll have for us.
Jig
December 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM
I will remember Jonghyun as an artist, as a beautiful human being, as an inspiration. I will remember the moments of happiness and the moments of sadness because he never shied away from laughing or crying. I hope we can express ourselves even better. Never be afraid to open up to people. There is a higher risk but also a higher reward.
bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my happy virus
December 18, 2019 at 10:53 AM
I swear, back in the OG days before the agencies were messed up and everyone was friends with everyone, I can guarantee you that the dressing rooms of DB5K, SUJU, and SHINee were the loudest ROFL
Jig
December 18, 2019 at 11:01 AM
Haha oh for sure. Suju is still a loud mess.
I love how some worker just closes the door on them because they’re being too loud. Shinee doesn’t even care.
bebeswtz❣️Xiao Zhan is my happy virus
December 18, 2019 at 11:06 AM
Hahaha so true!! SUJU still is a loud mess XDDDDD
Yea, I’ve seen this clip many times, but it was only today that I noticed the female staff in the back hahaha
Jig
December 15, 2019 at 7:29 PM
I’m finishing up My Strange Hero finally. I’m liking it better this second try and understanding the reconciliation more this time. It doesn’t hurt that YSH has one of the most charming smiles.
JustMe
December 15, 2019 at 9:06 PM
YSH played his character so well that I still don’t think it’s fair how he forgave everyone so quickly. He definitely got the short end the stick.
saturtledaisy
December 16, 2019 at 7:53 AM
Hes a marshmallow incapable of hatred hes fine as long as his loved ones are. I love him.
BOKSOO BOKSOO BOKSOO
Jig
December 16, 2019 at 8:34 AM
I sympathized with the FL a little bit more this time so that helped with accepting his grace. I think the build up of the whole REVENGE IS MIIIINE didn’t help with the whole “oh nevermind. She said sorry.” They almost did too good of a job with getting us to side with him and his revenge plan. If that was toned down a little, maybe the quick reconciliations would have felt more real overall. I do like their partnership though now so that lessens the sting a little too.
saturtledaisy
December 16, 2019 at 11:42 AM
I mean he wasnt necessarily wronged by her the most. He was just so hurt that she didnt believe him, not knowing that she did believe him but just felt too guilty to face him and wanted to move on, not knowing how much it mattered to him. Once that was cleared out, he had no reason to resent her. she only told them what she heard, which was the truth.
The revenge wasn’t just focused on her, though I guess she hurt him the most emotionally. His real beef is with Seho. And his mom. And the school. And the world. And hes ready to stir things up I LOVE HIM.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 10:09 AM
Question in the comments for those who have seen Signal and Memories of the Alhambra or for those who are wondering how dare those two kdramas be in the same sentence and don\’t mind spoilers.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 10:09 AM
Why did people like the ending to Signal and not to MoA? It is literally the same type of ending. The important male character is thought to be dead and in the final minute, he is revealed to be alive and in mortal danger; both FLs are racing towards him in the final seconds of the show; and both shows end before anyone knows if the ML will be alright. My general guess is that people liked Signal more overall so could stomach the ending more. But, thoughts?
SnarkyJellyfish
December 9, 2019 at 10:17 AM
I haven’t seen MoA so I can’t speak for it, but with Signal there is the fact that the story itself kind of built to the ending – all we knew was that he had disappeared, no confirmation of death. Also, it was a show where the questions of whether changing the past could affect the future, so an ending where a presumed dead character is alive is less out of nowhere. It sticks with the questions that the show has been exploring for 16 episodes even if it is a surprise.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 10:23 AM
True. And, the fact that he is alive at all is closure to at least one of the important questions – his disappearance.
I think MoA did too but since you haven’t seen it, I’ll save my PowerPoint presentation lol.
SnarkyJellyfish
December 9, 2019 at 10:31 AM
I think part of it was that in Signal the ending felt earned by the strength of the show overall. It worked because even if you didn’t see it coming it was built into the DNA of the story itself. I have no desire to watch MoA (I made it through half an episode) but from what I gather, the writing in that show didn’t build up to its twists and therefore it didn’t “earn” its ending. The thing about good writing is that even where you don’t know what’s going to happen next, when something shocking happens it is “earned” when in retrospect it remains in keeping with the way the story and characters built to it. Think about The Sixth Sense – the first time we all saw the movie it was shocking, but when you rewatch it it makes so much sense because of subtle hints in the writing and direction.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 10:46 AM
I think that’s what most people’s argument would be. I saw the clues MoA gave to lead to that ending and so I found it earned, but I think many people were distracted by what they didn’t like to see them.
Midnight
December 9, 2019 at 10:49 AM
IMHO the only people who thought MoA didn’t build up well to its ending were people who were waiting for everything to end like a superhero movie and everything go back to normal at the finale. I expected extreme disaster.
Midnight
December 9, 2019 at 10:26 AM
Double standards. Besically people will forgive shows they love nearly everything.
For myself I thought Signal got away with lots and lots of plotholes, and MoA basically tried to show extreme gaming can ruin your life. End of story.
Lord Cobol
December 9, 2019 at 10:32 AM
And once people decide they hate the potted plant, they start looking for reasons to hate everything else in the show.
The FL in Signal was not a potted plant 🙂
Midnight
December 9, 2019 at 10:40 AM
I have never gotten as angry at potted plants as some of the beanies.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 12:12 PM
Yeah there have been times where that term has been overused. My taste in female leads has definitely changed over the years to want a stronger woman as lead, but I think strength isn’t necessarily doing everything herself or never crying. It also isn’t being a brat and getting away with anything because she’s a “strong, independent” woman. It is hard to find the balance.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 10:57 AM
It was weird cause I didn’t see her as much of a potted plant as other people did. I mean she did cry a lot but she did what she could in the situation she was in. I mean she really didn’t have any means to go find her brother, she didn’t have the time to “waste” on a game, and she did her job in physically and emotionally supporting the family she had left. She joined in when she could but I’m not really sure what more she could have done. She was really there to create an emotional backbone to the whole thing.
Midnight
December 9, 2019 at 11:03 AM
Thank you!
Midnight
December 9, 2019 at 12:17 PM
Replying to your latest comment here. Again, thank you! I agree.
Actually we shouldn’t be looking for balance, I guess. Different characters in dramas resonate with different people. And that should be ok.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 10:54 AM
I agree. I think Snarklyjellyfish has a good point about the ending of Signal above, but I also think the ending of MoA was not forgiven as easily just because they didn’t buy into the world in the same way. The writer could still be blamed for that, but I don’t think there was that much of a disparity as people think between the two shows.
Midnight
December 9, 2019 at 11:02 AM
I think people were expecting a completely different show, that is why they couldn’t buy into it. We can blame the writer, the teasers and promo people, or the viewers’ preconceprions, but it won’t change anything unfortunately.
Jig
December 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Yeah the ones who were expecting an action-packed show didn’t get their tough FL and the ones who were expecting a romance didn’t get their fairy-tale ending.
Possum
December 9, 2019 at 10:41 PM
I think MoA disappointed a lot of people because the game turned out to be more important to him.
She was more a support to him than an actual partner in a relationship. I never really expected them to end up together.
Jig
November 24, 2019 at 9:56 PM
I did a legit kdrama marathon for the first time in forever and finished TLIYE in 2 days. I really liked it for the most part. It was definitely a great binge!
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 10:11 AM
I enjoyed Angel\’s Last Mission and I am really enjoying finishing Memories of the Alhambra. What other shows did everyone hate so I know what I should watch next?
Kaleidoscopic
November 11, 2019 at 10:21 AM
Mr. Sunshine. It’s a KES drama. You can’t get more hated than that.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 10:23 AM
Nice try.
Kaleidoscopic
November 11, 2019 at 10:25 AM
humph! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKVIX1Q5Ak0
Ally
November 11, 2019 at 10:26 AM
Hwayugi
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 10:31 AM
I read the recaps and was so excited for Hongki, LSG, and CSW but that ending…I don’t know if I could sit through all of it for it to end that way…
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 10:48 AM
I loved the ending. The episode before the last one was trash but I loved the finale.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 10:58 AM
@midnight oh really? Why did you like the ending? Maybe I should revisit that then…
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 11:22 AM
Because it was SO EXACTLY like him to give her his own eye and confidently announce that he would find her where-ever she went. I loved the cheeky note the show ended on. It was exactly like Monkey King. And one knew that he would do it. As always.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 11:42 AM
@midnight ah true. I can see how it would stay in character. I don’t mind bittersweet endings but open-ended endings drive me a little crazy. I might still check it out though. There did seem to be some golden moments that would make it worth-while.
Ally
November 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM
Hwayugi’s ending made my hubby swear to never watch another kdrama. (Of course, we’re watching My Country now, which he loves.)
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 12:51 PM
For your below comment:
Oh man, I would have quit ages ago if I swore off kdramas after a bad ending. Glad your husband got sucked back in anyway!
Lord Cobol
November 11, 2019 at 10:22 AM
Abyss?
Melting Me Softly????
Arsedal????????
All seem to qualify on the “hate” scale. Abyss was the only one I liked.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 10:24 AM
Melting Me Softly is loosely on my list. I do love the leads and the clips I’ve seen don’t really seem all that bad if you go in expecting some farce.
bbstl
November 11, 2019 at 6:01 PM
Ugh, definitely Arsedal (hate face 😠).
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 10:51 AM
I really liked MoA too. I often love shows hated by most beanies too but whenever I post about it there usually are some beanies that have liked it too.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 10:56 AM
Yeah usually there’s someone out there who loves it even if it seems most don’t. It is nice to see those more positive posts.
I take reviews into account a lot but some of the shows I’ve most enjoyed were ones I just ignored reviews and dived in.
gadis | Going through my lo~~ng to-watch list 📝
November 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM
*high five*
I love MoA with all its flaws. I think the only thing I actually hate is the vague ending. Aside from that, it’s a drama I enjoyed watching and dissecting.
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 11:02 AM
One show I remember many beanies, but not all of them, dislike is Wok of Love. I LOVE IT.
Two Cops is another one. I have rewatched both of themmany many times.
Room No.9 is another one that I have watched recently, starting it very cautiously but I love this one too.
Infinitize
November 11, 2019 at 11:14 AM
Oh, I’m glad to hear you liked Wok of Love! I’ve been wanting to watch it for Junho but it did seem that not many people really enjoyed it. I’ll give it go!
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 11:28 AM
I love it. Both JunHo and Jung Ryeo Won are perfect. And I don’t care what other people say, this is one of the best roles I have seen Jang Hyuk in.
bbstl
November 11, 2019 at 5:59 PM
Yep, I was recently thinking of rewatching Wok of Love for Jang Hyuk. Sure, it gets a bit unfocused towards the end but I loved it. And the cat.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 11:15 AM
I love Junho. He was sooo good in Chief Kim and JBL. I stopped reading recaps of WoL but can’t remember why. I do remember something about a steamy kitchen kiss lol. I think that would be a fun one for a light comedy. I should add it to my list.
The last two just never really interested me. I do love Jo Jung-suk though.
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 11:30 AM
See, I was bored to tears with JBL and I had lots of issues with it that frustrated me. The only thing I liked about it was the relationship between JunHo and the second female lead near the end of the story.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM
I’ve heard that from others but I absolutely adore JBL and really want to rewatch it. The FSL was really awesome and I did enjoy that friendship too. The MSL got on my nerves a little but I’ve seen worse lol
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 11:33 AM
Room No.9 never intrested me either until just recently when I had finished a rewatch of Lookout and was desperate for more KYK but disliked Secret Life of my Secretary. I went in just for him not knowing anything about the story, and it gripped me immediately.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Ooh didn’t realize he was in that too. I do like both female leads too but idk. I’ll have to be in just the right mood for that one.
gadis | Going through my lo~~ng to-watch list 📝
November 11, 2019 at 4:37 PM
Wok of Love is love. It’s disjointed at times and most of the times it felt like the writer couldn’t decide whether she wanted to go all out on the absurdity scale or not. But the oddly frank conversations are to die for (so refreshingly weird and honest). And the characters are a delight.
saturtledaisy
November 11, 2019 at 2:22 PM
suspicious partner
strong woman do bongsoon
hotel del luna
vagabond
abyss
the heirs
dr jin
all shows getting hated on for very different reasons also all shows i have watched at least bits of and have both enjoyed and hated for… varying reasons
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 3:02 PM
I enjoyed Suspicious Partner. It lost it’s way like midway but was still nice enough.
Strong Woman got a lot of love here I thought. I barely made it through recaps…
Hotel Del Luna is definitely on my list. That one sounded good.
Vagabond is loosely on my list. I don’t mind an action show here and there.
Recaps were fun to read for The Heirs but never would watch it. Maybe if it was back when I was watching BoF and those classics lol
I always mean to go back and read Dr Jin recaps. Heard they were pretty hilarious.
Trin Jiejie 🍆
November 11, 2019 at 4:10 PM
I would probably rate Strong Woman as my most disliked drama ever. Mostly because I somehow managed to watch all of the trainwreck and didn’t drop it like most other bad dramas. I give major side-eyes to anyone who say they liked it.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 5:57 PM
I’m a chronic finisher so I have a nice list of disliked ones I’ve completed. There were some core issues I had with Strong Woman (from reading recaps) that I think it was the leads chemistry that must have hard carried that show. I don’t begrudge people liking it but I will not be convinced to check it out myself.
Midnight
November 11, 2019 at 6:39 PM
I have stopped reading recaps to check the show a long time ago. I have found out that I enjoy shows better when I go in blind without the recappers’ first impressions, as people usually have a certain expectation from promo materials and/or production crew credits, which can ruin the first few episodes for them very easily and it shows clearly in their recap. I tend to avoid promo materials and I prefer to go in blind. That has been the best strategy for me to enjoy the most number of shows.
saturtledaisy
November 11, 2019 at 10:51 PM
strong woman couldve been an interesting show and the leads were cute as buttons. but also i could write a book on how it somehow sent the exact opposite message of what it should have sent with the premise and also how it literally handled every single plotline wrong.
but also park boyoung is magic. i didnt even mind its terribleness as long as i could fast forward to her scenes. im not sure why.
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 7:31 PM
@midnight I don’t rely on recaps as much as I used to. I don’t mind some bias in there cause I do come for their genuine opinion. Plus, I have my own biases too, but it can get deceiving when it’s all love or all criticism.
I also love spoilers (as long as I seek them out and they don’t ninja attack me) so I’m all for pre-reading recaps and watching promos lol. It does backfire sometimes.
JiaYou
November 11, 2019 at 7:12 PM
People hated Angel’s Last Mission? I had no idea. I loved it. Shin Hye Sun was divine in there!
Jig
November 11, 2019 at 7:17 PM
Hate may be too strong of a word but people seemed to not like the plot or L all that much. I enjoyed it a lot too. Shin Hye-sun is awesome and I thought L held his own with how much goofier his role was suppose to be.
Jig
October 27, 2019 at 5:39 PM
I finally finished Moonlight Drawn By Clouds! And…I didn\’t like it. Now to go find something awesome to watch as a reward before I continue my half-done list (MoA, FiS, MSH).
RaOnAh loves Yugyeom and Jaebeom 💚💕💚💕💚💕💚
October 27, 2019 at 5:45 PM
Did you not like the end or did you not like any of it?
Jig
October 27, 2019 at 7:03 PM
Mainly the whole thing. I loved the guy trio. I wished we had gotten more of their story and reconciliation. Jinyoung and Ninja (I’m so bad with character names lol) were so interesting but they barely got any screen time it felt like (and yes that ending was so pointless for him T_T). I wanted to like Ra-on but she was just unable to handle anything on her own and then she spent the second half sitting there crying. I love that actress though so I’m glad I saw her in other things first before this. The show had charm and I could see how people really were drawn to it but I just couldn’t buy into it. 😔
RaOnAh loves Yugyeom and Jaebeom 💚💕💚💕💚💕💚
October 27, 2019 at 7:12 PM
Ninja was awesome! I love his hair 😍
Ra On had spunk at the beginning but that kind of disappeared halfway through.
I didn’t like that the three guy’s friendship was broken up at the end 😭
Jig
October 27, 2019 at 7:28 PM
His hair was really good. It looked sp bouncy. Yeah, if they focused on them reconciling that would have been so much better and meaningful than anything else in the drama.
I felt like Ra-on had spunk but was a bit too ditzy at the beginning lol
Oh! I forgot I did love CSB’s character. I think she got short-changed too by the end but she was really cool.
protect lan zhan
October 27, 2019 at 7:22 PM
The fact that Jinyoung was completely sidelined was one of my biggest gripes with the show (LITERALLY NO ONE SEEMED TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE DIED???).
In general, I think MDBC had a lot of potential, and I can think of a bunch of better ways some of the side characters could’ve been used that would’ve made the show a whole lot more watchable.
It felt like the writers themselves were a little confused about whether they wanted to focus on the romance, or focus on the politics, and they just ended up not doing either one all that well, which is such a pity, because I feel like the show could’ve been really good.
Jig
October 27, 2019 at 7:35 PM
Yeeeees! I’m a bana so maybe a little bias but Jinyoung did so good at selling his role in everything (and was even a better politician than the prince at times). His death scene (as ridiculous and out of character as it was) had so much omph and then everyone was like here is my single tear and the end. I also hated that it was used to justify the evil grandfather/minister to end his life. I wanted to see him get actual justice.
Yeah I can see that being the problem. They tried to bite off more than they could chew but were able to ride on the charisma of the actors.
mugyuljoie
October 28, 2019 at 1:31 AM
I didn’t even make it through two episodes.
Jig
October 28, 2019 at 8:53 AM
I’m too stubborn for my own good so I hardly ever drop, but also I assumed it would get better since I heard such great reviews here. By the time I realized it wouldn’t, I was too deep in that it would have been a waste not to finish it….
MeloMe
October 28, 2019 at 8:00 AM
Finally someone I can relate with. I loved our two leads individually but I didn’t feel any chemistry between them. This is one major reason I didn’t like the show. Also like comments have mentioned our heroin kinda lost her spunkiness as the show moved on. And I think the politics weren’t gripping enough for me..
Jig
October 28, 2019 at 8:50 AM
Yeah I shouldn’t have watched CwP in between this one cause KYJ had amazing chemistry with YKS. Granted she was reeeeally young in MDBC but still…the elements were there for me to want them to be together but I just didn’t feel it.
I felt like the prince floundered with the politics a bit too much and never seemed to get the upperhand until the end when others helped him. Jinyoung had a grasp on the politics and his part was interesting, but it wasn’t focused on enough. I think they had too many players and tried to focus on all of them without giving any of them service.
MeloMe
October 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM
“the elements were there for me to want them to be together but I just didn’t feel it” yess EXactly!!
Also this was one of my first few dramas and at that time I didn’t really know the actor/actresses well, just used to watch the drama without knowing the cast but now that you mentioned, I searched her up and she is twenty RIGHT NOW, which means she was SEVENTEEN then?? 😱😱
I did not know anyone could get a lead role at this age and that to in a romance drama!!
Jig
October 28, 2019 at 11:51 AM
I’m still horrible at keeping actors straight lol.
Yeah she’s so young! She comes from being a child actress and I want to say MDBC was her first “adult” role. She was a high schooler in Angry Mom but it wasn’t a romance (awesome kdrama btw).
MeloMe
October 28, 2019 at 12:20 PM
Haha, I am getting better 😅
Just recently discovered she was a child actress when i saw clips of her , Yeo Jin Goo and Kim So Hyun in ‘Moon Embraving The Sun’. They’ve all come a long way!
Haven’t watched ‘Angry Mom’, searched it up, the premise sounds interesting I think I’ll add it into my foot long ‘To Watch’ list😅
Jig
October 28, 2019 at 12:36 PM
I never did get around to watching Moon Embracing the Sun.
I know all about a mile long list haha mine grows faster than I watch T_T
MeloMe
October 29, 2019 at 2:03 AM
I haven’t watched moon embracing the sun as well.
About the mile long list, doesn’t everybody’s??😂
Jig
October 23, 2019 at 9:49 AM
How is he such a beautiful human being? Every time I think I couldn’t love him more he does something wonderful and meaningful. Even if you don’t know Key, watch. Trust me. It’s worth your time.
Infinitize
October 23, 2019 at 11:13 AM
Key is Love. Love is Key.
Beverly
October 23, 2019 at 5:17 PM
There is something about him that makes me think he would be such a great friend to have.
Jig
October 23, 2019 at 5:58 PM
He would be! He is definitely a social bee. It seems every week someone is visiting him in the military lol
Jules
October 23, 2019 at 11:05 PM
And babysitter
mugyuljoie
October 23, 2019 at 9:14 PM
He’s amazing. I hope he takes on more acting when he’s back. He’s the reason I’ll rewatch Lookout.❣️
Jig
October 24, 2019 at 12:01 AM
We just finished that! Our biggest complaint was we needed more Key and Seulgi. lol
I hope he does more acting too. He has such presence on stage/camera.
Jig
August 7, 2019 at 6:01 PM
K-con next week!! Yaaay! I\’m crossing fingers and toes that Dramabeans will make another appearance there. Also, I\’ll love to get together with L.A/L.A-adjacent beanies. We have a kakao group so I can add you there or we can find another way to PM each other if anyone is interested in meeting up next week!
Beverly
August 7, 2019 at 6:23 PM
Who are you excited to see?
Jig
August 7, 2019 at 6:45 PM
Mamamoo, Nu’est, Ateez, Stray Kids, Esna, Kevin Woo, ReacttotheK, and more! Lol
Beverly
August 7, 2019 at 9:54 PM
I haven’t payed much attention to stray kids but that one boy’s voice is so deep. I hadn’t thought about it before but all those famous deep voices at one time would of been coming out of the mouth’s of babes, lol.
When I first fell down the kpop rabbit hole definitely came across some reaction videos by ReacttotheK, Dezzy March, and that producer guy.
Jig
August 7, 2019 at 10:05 PM
That would be Felix (@adieunoire @ultramafic see I pay attention)
haha and that is true. My favorite deep voice in kpop is Bang Yongguk (formerly BAP). I never saw him as a kid though lol
Yeah Dezzy and PD I’m excited for too. PD was there last year but I didn’t catch him on any panels. Hopefully this year I will
adieunoire
August 8, 2019 at 12:41 AM
I’m so proud of you!
mugyuljoie
August 8, 2019 at 12:18 AM
I’ll spend my time being jealous of everyone who gets to see Mamamoo.
Lord Cobol
August 7, 2019 at 7:19 PM
This year I (finally) have a smart-phone, so kakao is an option.
How do I join????
Jig
August 7, 2019 at 8:27 PM
oh yay! download the app then I’ll give you the link to join. I’ll just delete it from here once you are in.
Lord Cobol
August 7, 2019 at 9:06 PM
I’m in. ID is (surprise, surprise) “Lordcobol”
Jig
August 7, 2019 at 9:41 PM
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parkchuna Wants To Fly Not Run
August 7, 2019 at 10:10 PM
Hey..do u know if K-con is always held in summer?
Hope you and the other lucky beanies have a ton of fun there!
Jig
August 8, 2019 at 12:45 AM
I’m pretty sure it’s been mid-August or around there every year. The one in New York is like early July usually I think.
Thank you!
parkchuna Wants To Fly Not Run
August 14, 2019 at 7:09 AM
Thanks! I was hoping there might be a chance to go if it’s later in the year but probably not then..