Beanie level: Noble idiot

I’m so confused re:CLOY ep 9-10: if it was that simple to get her back, why wasn’t it the first method he tried???

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    He didn’t have the power before to be moved to the border but once the higher ups knew who his dad was, they were willing to do whatever he wanted. I guess he just didn’t want to tell them who his dad was before.

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      Also, the deserter may have been real (?) triggering a real emergency and meaning more troops on duty along the border (?)

      Then again, a fake deserter announcement would have been a clever first step in the plot.

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        The deserter was real as was the emergency swap. JH was clever to take advantage of it.

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    They found SeRi the last day of their turn in the DMZ, they had to come back and change with another company, that’s why they tried other things, because they were not supposed to go back to the DMZ in three months. But things changed with the deserter as and the coronel knowing the connections of Cap. Ri.

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This drama is not your typical “saeguk”; it’s more like a family drama where the family is royal. There’s humor, tension, drama, everything!

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The many faces of the Imperial Grandson. He’s sly, vulnerable, humorous, cunning, caring, ambitious. Zhu Yawen in “Ming Dynasty” is a revelation!

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How to ask a girl out while she’s trying to kill you #MingDynasty, best cdrama of 2020 I called it!

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    What drama is this?

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      Ming Dynasty, currently with ok sub on YouTube up until ep 8 (later eps have automated subs that they’re slowly trying to correct). If youre in Asia use dimsum.my which is a legal streaming service. If you know how to do bootleg soft subs subscene has dimsum’s sub (you’ll have to download the raw eps).

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Folks, I don\’t think Kyung killed DanOh. When he left and Haru came in, the oxygen mask was back on.

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    Yeah, I think I got that wrong. I was so upset I didn’t watch it properly.

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    He didn’t, but you know what he did do?

    CHANGED HER FATE!!!!!!!

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Could EY not explain the premise every episode 😕 I\’m beginning to think the drama writer has no faith in watchers. I wish the sageuk story was a full drama by itself!

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    hmm..I don’t view it as the show explaining the premise. We all guessed it ages ago, but more of it slowly showing us exactly what went down, confirming our thoughts or fully formulating threads it only hinted at, earlier.

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      No I mean literally repeating “we’re in a comic therefore abc”, not explaining the new plot points, but simply repeating every single ep the things that have been explained/expositioned/shown before. Like excessive flashbacks, except in words.

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Extraordinary You: finally got some time to type up something about this drama. I\’ve been really enjoying it – Kim Hye Yoon is a revelation (sad that I can\’t finish Sky Castle, it\’s just too stressful!) And of course Lee Jae Wook!! Puppy needs to work a bit on varying his scowling face ๐Ÿ˜› but he\’s been so good otherwise!! Tender moments (however rare) are tender, and when he\’s being a jerk he\’s being a real jerk, with charisma. But here comes my problem with the drama: can we please, please, get Baek Kyung\’s backstory now? -_- it\’s 5 episodes too late now to redeem him. It makes me sad knowing that webtoon Baek Kyung (the actual webtoon, not the in-drama webtoon) is so much more layered and so much less of an a*hole. Webtoon BK is most often indifferent to Dan Oh; he doesn\’t really shout at her or constantly dismiss her rudely. Their relationship is super interesting because- like Dan Oh said (in the webtoon), whether by choice or not, Baek Kyung HAS been the only one by her side throughout her life. When Baek Kyung gains awareness, he also becomes aware of his feelings for Dan Oh, and on top of that comes to like her Shadow personality. He doesn\’t actively provoke Haru (besides some snide comments here and there), and actually partners with Haru to save Dan Oh. I honestly don\’t understand why all of this interesting development is taken away from us. Maybe because compared to webtoon Haru, drama Haru has a lot more development and personality? Must we give up one character development for another? ๐Ÿ™ Writer-nim, why can\’t we have it all?

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They’re hysterical omg๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Jihwan “cry not” in sageuk speech ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ this Puppy, what do we do with you?? Scarlett stole the show again today. She’s too funny!

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This #searchwww BTS clip is so cute!!! Lee Jae Wook is a bona fide Puppy in real life!!

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[Rant incoming] Taking a break from squeeing over Seol Jihwan, I just wanted to do a PSA that how WWW portrays tech companies is really not how it works. Ok that\’s like saying the drama doctors are not real doctors (duh!), but hear me out! I was so excited when I saw the first episode – the way Tammy explained the search engine business, the way she did \”internal user research\” with Ellie, everything stays quite close to the reality that I know (I work in a big tech company as a researcher/strategist). And it\’s thrilling! Hearing business talks that makes sense! (side-eyeing you, Meteor Garden and your \”AI platform to sell squid sauce\”)

But then episode 2 onward they just decided to throw it all out of the window. Jenny was introduced as a developer and what did she do (besides hacking some info that one time?)? Why is the team all marketing? Where\’s the Interaction Designer (the person who maps out how the app/website should respond to the user behaviors)? Where\’s the researcher (Ellie could have been it!)? They\’re basically Product Managers running around without any research or design expertise! I always wonder why novel writers can do so much research, shadowing the people they\’re gonna write about, and usually get it mostly right, but drama writers never manage to do so?

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Calling Puppy Fan Club! This was such a satisfying episode!! I have to go to work now but can\’t wait to see all the spazzing on the fanwall later! ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ

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    OMG OMG do you mean WWW? I can’t wait to catch it. Dang I have to walk my dog!!

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    Do you mean ep 14? In that case I’ll have to stay away from the fanwall until I’ve got subs tomo

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      The “unofficial” upload of VIU sub is quite fast, probably will come out in the next 6-7 hours, and better quality too. And yes ep 14!!

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        In 6-7h, I’ll be fast asleep XD

        I’ll watch it over breakfast tomorrow…

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    AN AMAZING EPISODE FOR THE PUPPY FAN CLUB INDEED

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      So young and already so good!!! Our puppy makes us proud with the kissing! Did you notice also that his real kiss was better than his drama kiss? I thought that was such a nice attention to details 😉

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Ok as far as forced separation goes going to the military is much better than random studying abroad. But it\’s too real! My puppy Seol Jihwan! Scarlet can you hurry the f up and tell him 😭

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    I never knew military service of an actor IN A DRAMA can affect me this much. At least studying abroad makes my eye roll as it is just unnecessary plot device. WWW did a great job at using enlistment as a plot device and as a device to break our hearts.

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      Yes, I agree. It was done before for What’s Up Fox (2006), it’s better plot device than leave abroad, why there aren’t many writers using it.

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        They also used that in the Korean adaptation of Be With You! A great way to separate people that actually makes sense tbh. (I suddenly remember they also used that in Manhole. Don’t ask me why I watched that show).

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      They used it in Age of Youth 2.

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        I need Kim Min-seok in roles similar to his role in Age of Youth 2. His enlistment scene there where he was looking at Eun’s photo was cute. I need to rewatch that show for the 99999th time.

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The Watcher reminds me a lot of Forest of Secrets, which is a great thing. Same director too! Go check it out people!

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Another day, another fan post on HPL: this is the first time I see in kdrama two leads who have basic emotional intelligence. Sure, Deok-mi let her insecurities take over for a moment, but she did have a hunch that Ryan liked her. Ryan had even more confidence that his feelings weren\’t one-sided. I did a little fist bump in that episode. Finally! A kdrama lead who\’s not completely blind, literally or figuratively! Their emotional intelligence comes in handy with their relationship \”obstacles\” – outing each other\’s Internet lives, Ryan\’s abandonment trauma, etc.

I\’ve also been trying to think through why I haven\’t been bothered by the lack of \”plot\” in this drama. In a romcom, the plot is the progression of the romance. You can say that we\’ve \”arrived\”, since DM & RG are now a couple, why should we care about anything else? With What\’s Wrong with Secretary Kim, I couldn\’t finish the last few episodes because as cute as the couple was, they weren\’t interesting anymore to watch (besides all the other problematic points about that drama like over the top kidnapping trauma, or her not quitting her job to find her passion, etc.) Maybe it\’s because I strongly relate to Deok-mi\’s fangirl\’s life and was curious about how things would play out even after they started dating. Maybe because I find Korean adoptees having trauma about being abandoned more believable than complicated kidnapping-amnesia-switched-memories. Someone else please write an analysis!

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Also I rarely find anyone sexy (handsome/cute, yes, sexy? nah) except for my husband (thankfully), but DANG Ryan Gold is sexy. What is it about him? What is it??

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HPL: me for most of ep 10: \”AAAAHHHHHHHH\”. Kim Jaewook, father of mature kdrama dating.

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I love Ryan as the male lead. The way he enjoys Deok Mi\’s fangirling is the best. He even enables her in many ways to fangirl. I\’m not as hardcore as DeokMi but have been known to be a huge kpop fangirl, and one reason I know that I picked the right husband was a few years back when he brought me back a TVXQ DVD when he went to Korea, unprompted. And just now he laughed and called me cute for screaming in blue-ball pains throughout ep 8 of Her Private Life. I CAN\’T WAIT for the cute when DeokMi realizes how much Ryan enjoys and supports her fangirling!!!

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Just come back here to do a PSA: Her Private Life got so much better after the first two uneven eps. Iโ€™ve been squealing like a seal. And Kim Jae Wookโ€™s Hands are So.Sexy.

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One thing I appreciate about Beanies is that more so than other forums, there are a lot of you who while immersing in the emotions and the story of dramas, can still appreciate the complexity of the craft (directing, writing,etc.) and be critical when required. And that a lot of you, like me, enjoy watching even if not morally rooting for \”bad\” characters. You can separate the complexity and watchability of a character from their actual moral standing (let\’s just say that we would watch anti-hero & anti-heroine on screen, maybe even root for them to do their crazy evil thing, but would definitely report them to the police if they were real people). Case in point:
– The crazy king in The Crowned Clown. After [SPOILER] they killed the king, my interest dropped from 100 to 0. As much as the king has become unworthy of his throne, and commited unforgivable acts, he was such a fascinating character to watch, and a formidable foe to our hero. Without him, half of the fun is gone, and also most of the reason to root for our hero. Now it\’s back to simple court politics, which is actually done decently in the show, but not enough to pull me back in.
The last empress: I\’ve said a lot about this drama and I maintain that the evil characters are the most fun to watch. They did a decent job with the \”good\” characters of the show (Sunny is so badass!), but it is the \”bad\” characters that are having the most fun with their emotions and behaviors, and thus make them the most fun to watch as well.
The story of Hao Lan: since not a lot of Beanies are watching this drama, I\’ve been discussing it elsewhere, and am alone in appreciating the complexity of these characters who cannot be bucketed into \”good\” or \”bad\”. A lot of their actions are really unforgivable (besides the usual political machinations in the palace, there\’s also some twisted emotional manipulation between loved ones), but to me they all make sense and are in line with the characters\’ personality and motivations. It also makes it fun to watch these people with extraordinary abilities and similarly extraordinary emotions put in their all, whether it\’s their career or love. Isn\’t that what we watch dramas for? If I want to watch good guys doing good things, I can always volunteer more at our local non-profits and not waste my time with dramas!

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    True!!
    I stopped watching TCC, meaning to continue after it ended, but the death kind of left me hanging. I wonder how they’d balance the story now,and it’s sad to read it’s now turned into a typical sageuk (which isn’t bad imo, since I like them, but I kind of feel they promised something at the beginning and they’re now delivering something else)
    We’ve talked about TLE a million times, but I just want to repeat how much I would have loved them to turn sunny into mama jr and build a new and crazy empire. <//3
    I'm watching the story of ming lan first so I didn't read your comments on hao lan just in case, but I promise I'll talk to you about it when I start it! (in a million years, since I'm only on ep 14 of ming lan XD)

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      Chinese drama is a different beast isn’t it LOL Hao Lan looks to be 70 something eps as well, oh dear haha

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    Ok, so I’ve been soo behind on TLE, I’m not sure if I will continue. But I’m almost done with Ming Lan and will make the time to start Hao Lan. I’ll let you know when I start this!

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    Yessss! Right there with you on all these points, even with the shows I’m not watching.
    I’m always drawn to such characters as well and I feel pretty much exactly the same about The Crowned Clown.

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    Exactly true about The Crowned Clown! I am still watching but I watch a single episode over a period of days. It hasnโ€™t been the same with the mad king gone. Yes he was crazy and proboably deserved what happened to him but the other lot is undeserving too! I canโ€™t bring myself to root for an usurper.

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      Well a lot of great kings were originally usurpers as well, so that’s not my problem. It’s just, now the conflict between the clown and his antagonist is a familiar one, and not very interesting anymore ๐Ÿ™‚

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        If itโ€™s a monarchy then it should follow the bloodline. If itโ€™s a democracy then it should be someone selected by the people. He is none of those unfortunately. And he is having the hots for another mans wife!! No. Just no.

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          that’s fair – this could be why monarchies don’t work out in the end since when a king is terrible, there’s very little anyone could do. I think I’m of a different opinion here where if a king is terrible, a revolution should happen – but yes maybe a revolution should happen from the outside, rather than the inside.

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            Yes! Exactly! Anyway itโ€™s only a drama. Letโ€™s just enjoy it while it lasts 😊

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    There’s nothing as satisfying as watching a delicious evil character.

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    Agree2.

    I only watch TLE from your list above. And as much as i kinda like the story about Sunny’s revenge, imo NWS’s arc unfortunately was not very well executed so it fell flat at times and eventually crumbled away. Huhu

    Anyways, it was the villains that actually pulled me in to watch and stay for the show. In the beginning we had Mama with her spy cam, RH was/is bad and has trust issues, also there is snake Min Yura in between them. The drama has flaws (maybe too many), but it is fun to watch especially when we have over the top villains like Mama and her son who flipflops like he has a good-bad switch. Hahaha

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Posting separately because editing my previous deleted the photo! ๐Ÿ™ From left to right: Tsundere Self-Appointed Machiavelli; Final Boss; A Very Cunning Puppy.

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