Beanie level: Errand boy

Beanies–I just finished making my very first from scratch Thanksgiving. I burned nothing AND managed to watch my drama at the same time. I think I may be growing as a person.

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They come to arrest Maru and he says to them: can this wait? This is the first time my girlfriend made me breakfast so….And they go outside and wait? Drama? You’re weird.

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Its official. I hate Jae Hee so much that I’m ff her unless she’s in a scene with someone I hate significantly less. I’m not sure who that is but…yeah. No more scenes with her or her minions.

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AMNESIA drama? Really? She knows her WHOLE name. They haven’t left the city let alone the country and her fam is STUPID RICH why hasnt she been given to the police or the hospital? GAH

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    Ok. The amnesia thing makes sense now. Well the amnesia of course doesn’t make sense–this is a drama—but at least it makes sense that she’s not with her family. If the only option is to be with Jae Hee of course you stay with your secretary.

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You mean to tell me in a show called The Innocent Man/Nice Guy there isn’t a single nice person among the main characters? Seriously? I can’t watch a show with no one to root for. It just depresses me

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    Alright, I’m finishing ep 9 now, I will give this drama one more ep. If ep doesnt give me a turn around of at least one character to root for (and I’m not talking about third level leads like Choco and the best friend) I’m dropping it. Life is too short for a bad drama.

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    The complete nameis No Such Thing as a Nice Man though😆😆

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      *name is

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        That is not what it says on VIki or asianwiki. I have been LIED TO!!

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          Yeah, it is the most outrageous case of multiple drama names!

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            Seriously, I (obviously) will watch a drama called The Nice Guy or The Innocent Man. I wouldn’t throw my lot in with a drama called Not So Nice Guy or Man Who Used to be Innocent but is now Slowly Becoming More and More Dickish as the Drama Wears On.

            Shenanigans! And now theres an amnesia plot and. Honestly. I’m not sure how I ended up here.

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          I didn’t like the drama either. But I will be honest and say that the acting was so stellar that now after a year or two of watching it I don’t remember anything of the plot, but remember lots of heartbreaking closeup shots and teary stares that touched my heart.

          Apart from the storyline which I didn’t like, my real problem was that from the plot synopsis and random beanie comments I had imagined that the lead man would hide the lead woman after her amnesia to use her later for his own gain. And when I found out that it wasn’t going to be like that at all frustration and anger and then boredom took over completely. End of rant/confession.

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          *giggling in the audience*

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    so how is the drama? still watching it?

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      I haven’t watched ep 10 yet. I’m all nervous. And I guess I have to cook. Its just me but I will FEAST because its Thanksgiving and I did not die at all these past few months and I feel I should celebrate this. On the downside—I’m not a great cook. I tend to loose interest and get lost in a book or a drama and things burn around me. Soooo…..this could be a punishment?

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        sorry sis, could’nt help you with cooking… am not a great cook either and my hubby is the poor victim for my culinary skills( but come on… how much could expect from a 24 yr old right!!! 😜😜) as for the drama there is more saddness and twists (the heroine will recover- if that is of any help)….. but definitely not a complete happy thanksgiving drama……
        good luck…..
        HAPPY THANKSGIVING😇😇😇
        I too over cook the food sometimes…. so I have a chair in the kitchen and never move till I finish the dish…..

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          I’ve kinda started this cooking business. I’ve got my greens in a crockpot. I have no idea how long they are supposed to cook. I’m making turkey cutlets because its just me. What do I need with a whole turkey? And I guess I’ll do something with it later? I may have popcorn and pie for dinner. It would not be the first time I’ve given in to my inner laziness.

          Happy Thanksgiving to you!

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Bc The Innocent Man is SUCH a soap I should have expected that blasted *time jump trope to rear its ugly head. And it has. Btwn one scene and the next its been 11 months! Geeze! *The Package

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SooJung in TOL said that if a person runs when an ex calls then its not really an ex and the relationship isnt over. Eungi needs to cut her losses–knowing that she’s lying he still went! UGH!!

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I dont think I have ever disliked a character as much as I dislike Han Jae Hee. I mean, lets put on our thinking hats. There are so many ways to torture her….Lets hop to! What. A. BITCH.

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    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I was warned that this drama would make me want to pull my hair out. And yes. very much. Yes. I want to kick this wench in the knee until either I force my way through to the other side or I ruined my foot. Or both.

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Did Han Jae Hee really, like really think that she could just withdraw a billion won and no one would notice or say something about it? She knows that the daughter hates her. Cmon now.

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The Innocent Man is really good so far. But, WHY ON EARTH did he sacrifice himself for this woman? Did he forget he had a little sister at home? Sick almost to death? Ma Ru….dont be dumb.

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    SO GOOD BUT SO FRUSTRATING. The definition of a melo with all the cliches that won’t let you go until you finish it. Enjoy and I hope you leave with your hair intact! 😉

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      Choco and her crush on brothers friend is already doing me in. Honestly. If the main–pentagon?–doesn’t do me in this triangle will. Choco is stinking adorable, though.

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    Word of caution: You might want to keep small/heavy objects out of reach while watching the drama, as to not damage your tv/computer/laptop screen when things happen and you want to throw stuff out of frustration DX On a lighter note: broody, revenge-hungry Song Joong Gi is 😍

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      I’ll keep it in mind. Already Hae Jae Hee is rage inducing. Whenever I see her I worry for my blood pressure. All I want to know is–why are we being clever? Lets not be clever. Lets be violent. A good shove down the steps oughta do it.

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        Just make sure you don’t shove your tv/computer/laptop/tablet/iPad down the steps 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    Very typical melodrama I would say!
    Addicting yet very poignant.
    I really love the pairings Maru-Eungi, Kwangsoo-Choco, just don’t like their storylines that much.
    Anyway, I would suggest you prepare yourself for the ending. 😀

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      What does THAT mean? Good night sweet potato.

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        This is one of the dramas that I want to change the ending myself.
        Or maybe I should write about it… :)))
        Good night dear!

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          Dude. Dude. DUDE! C’mon! What does that mean! You can’t leave it there! Does the evil Hae Jae Han get outta this thing on top? Does the not-so-innocent man run off with the evil Hae Jae Han? DO THEY TIME JUMP TO WHEN THE KID IS AN ADULT AND HE’S AWFUL TOO?? I always knew that kid had no chance with parents like these two nimrods.

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            Haha none of it happens.
            At least Maru ends up with Eungi, not the evil girl. And that they truely love each other. Just that, the final ending does not happen in a logical way, so we are not sure of it, and feel odds at the ending.
            And I can’t say Han Jae Hee got a deserved punishment for all her wrongdoings…
            Will you continue to watch with this much spoiler?

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    Kang Ma-ru!

    My introduction to Song Joong-ki. It’s melo all over the place, but you can’t stop watching. Well, at least I thought so when I watched it. Heh.

    Enjoy! …… And oh yeah, Jae-hee, if not already, you’ll have some choice words for her.

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      I already have choice words for her. I’m extremely disappointed that her brother was always stopped from kicking her until she stopped moving. And then kicking her a few more times just for kicks and giggles. Talk about a magical vagina. She only has to imply she’s going to give it up and she’s got dudes murdering for her.

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I’ve never heard anything bad about City Hunter. I like LMH. However whenever I’m looking for something new to watch I always pass it up saying if I don’t find anything else, I’ll watch this.

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    I watched the first episode and never got any further. I tell myself that too. I’ll watch it eventually…

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    i like city hunter. you will like it too.

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      I believe you. Its just a matter of starting it. I never feel like it. I even heard that this is Lee Min Ho at peak hotness. And I’m still….eh. I’ll get to it eventually. I’ve started The Innocent man instead.

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        It’s good! I recommend it when you’re in the mood for some fun action. The best part is listening to JB and GF’s drunk podcast after watching it. They practically wrote a season 2 for the show and it is awesome, lol!

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    I can tell you bad things about it if you want…
    *odd one out* *i know* *but I’m still salty about the last 5 hrs*

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      Naaaaaah. I mean. You can if you want. But it’ll all go right on over my head. Its just been on TBW list pretty much since I started watching dramas and I just skip right on over it every time.

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        Hahaha let’s just say, the first 15 episodes are pretty fun, the last five are a mess. 😛
        I don’t think you’re missing THAAT much by not watching it??? Maybe some good action scenes…

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        I think Lee Min-ho ( auto correct tried to make it min-ki lol) has alot of personal charisma, it really made him stand out among the cast of BOF because cracky or not it was a mess in alot of ways but he kept me watching, which is amazing. But it doesn’t seem to help in really awful roles I havent seen Heirs but the reviews were emphatic. Faith I dropped but that was more due to his leading lady,for some reason I just didn’t care for her, but I think in another role I wouldn’t care.

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    I still haven’t watched this either. It’s not even that I don’t like LMH, but I guess I’ve yet to be amazed by him? I mean, I get his appeal, and he isn’t a bad actor. But BoF makes me angry, though that’s not his fault. Heirs is just…terrible…in every way. (Yes, even KWB’s character. He was an abusive s*** and I don’t get the SLS there — a great character and well acted, but a terrible person.) I couldn’t get into LotBS, and Personal Taste was utterly forgettable to me. Am I missing any? Other than the rave reviews, nothing about CH makes me want to jump to see it. Is that weird?

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      Not at all. BOF was my introduction to Kdrama (the second one I watched after Coffee Prince I believe) and it was my first crack!drama. I mean, I shut my office door and watched BOF at work –no shame, and consequences be damned. I watched The Heirs and thought it was horrible but I watched it with Delightful Gal A and my work friend and every time I considered giving up on it my work friend would say *Reverently* “I just…I just want to delicately nibble on KWB eyebrows” How can you walk away after that? I stayed in it for the eyebrows. I did love Personal Taste, though. I still remember his character running all over creation looking for pain killers when she had cramps and then rubbing her belly. Its something I would never want for myself. But I adored the sweetness on screen. And the kiss at the movie theater. I watched the first ep of LotBS and gave up. But, I think he’s a competent actor. He’s attractive (again–I’ve been told he’s at peak hotness here) and considering the depths of my shallowness there’s really no reason why I shouldn’t have seen this already. But—the whole thing makes me go eh. One day.

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        PT had its moments, but I cannot remember like 95% of it to save my life. I only remember loving the twist at the end where he made his own special building like the apple remember thinking that was sweet. And that he was really nice in rejecting his bossman.

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        I haven’t watched City Hunter either it and Healer are on the too of my have to watch list. I’m pretty confident I’d like it but I keep stalling out at the first episodes. Partly since its been so hyped it couldn’t possibly live up to my expectations

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          Healer was good. I think if you watch it when it hasn’t been talked about for awhile–and maybe watch the first few eps before talking about it (because without a doubt someone (possibly me) will scream on the beanie wall: Its the best drama evvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaa) and get yourself naturally interested you’ll like it just fine. It was a really good drama.

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      The more LMH dramas I watch, the less appealing he gets to me too…

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        It’s not even him — I just find the quality of the dramas he’s chosen to be subpar. PT was a mess in terms of direction. Heirs was just a mess. LotBS was too…something about it felt off, and I could only get though like 2 episodes, if even that. I just don’t know if it’s his fault or just that the writing/direction on all those dramas didn’t do it for me.

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          Lobster- I watched the whole thing- I found that there was mosre chemistry between JJH and the secondary characters than there was LMH, the ending was a cop out and the story slowly lost it’s grip on itself.
          Idk, maybe it’s a bit of both? He’s heralded as this greeeeat actor, but I kinda find his delivery a bit average…? *srhugS* *could just be poor script though* *which means he does just choose awful shows* *sigh*

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            Is he though? Do people really think LMH is a great actor? To me he seems like one of those actors who is famous because he’s pretty but has an extremely limited range and can only play one or two types of characters at best. Maybe he’s looking worse because he’s trying to —-expand? And his talent really isnt meant for such things.

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            *shrugs* maybe it’s just the hype he sometimes get son Dramabeans that made me think that. I actually have no idea. He’s super popular, but that doesn’t mean quality does it now.
            I guess I was just trying to be nice, give him the benefit of the doubt, but really, the more we talk about it the more I’m like ‘he’s not actually that good’ lol

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            What @isa said. I mean, I don’t think he’s terrible, but he’s also not genius by any means. I think he needs a good director and really strong writing to do well. PT, LotBS, BoF, Heirs, all sort of tend to be weaker on at least one of these two. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him in a movie, so I can’t say if he does better in that format. I could see him being better as a movie actor where the development is truncated so the flaws don’t seem as gaping.

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            I mean–the first time I saw BOF (before I knew better and was just mesmerized by all the pretty) it wasn’t LMH I had problems with. It was the chick who play Jan Di. When I rewatched it earlier this year it was the chick who played Jan Di (she did SUCH a bad job). I think LMH is decent at what he does. As for his popularity here—well, not to knock on DB or anything because heaven knows I love it–but there seems to be a lot of loud voices? Take BTIOFL for instance—its a really good show but the hype its been getting here is INSANE. I’m not saying don’t trust the fanwall—but yeah. Maybe take the fanwall with a salt shaker.

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            “With a salt shaker” hahaha, oh absolutely. If I hadn’t been interested in BTLIOF from the start, for me, as my own decision, I could’ve joined the bandwagon, or be put off because of hype. As it is, I’m enjoying the show, but the hype still sometimes gets to me.

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            I knew I was going to love it because my love of Lee Min Ki is deep and strong and has been real for some time now. And I also like the female lead who’s name I typically remember but I am deep in my Lee Min Ki happy place and well—there aren’t a lot of words here.
            ANYWAY. I would have watched that drama for the two of them alone and watched it to the end whether its good or not. It is a good drama and I don’t begrudge anyone their right to enjoy it or to hype it to the skies above but—It just seems that at a certain point it just seems excessive and it seemed insincere.

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            “It just seems that at a certain point it just seems excessive and it seemed insincere.”<<<
            So true. As any hype does actually.

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    I love City Hunter, It’s a great drama! But I love it because of Kim Sang Joong and not LMH. hehe

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HyunSoo talking about being in love/choosing love or WHATEVER she was yammering on about makes me want to stab myself in the ear. The reconciliation was too quick but all in all I liked TOL. Mostly.

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I still don’t support the relationship between Hong Ah and Won Joon. He deserves way better—but she was dang cute.

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Ok, I know I’m not supposed to like Hong Ah or Jun Suns mother but Hong Ah in love was adorable and Jun Suns mom was just awesome, strutting down the street threatening Daniel–Awesome. Get it, lady.

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Excuse me. Did WC just use my least favorite trope and NOT TELL US? I could have forgotten I guess. *The Package.

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    Yo. This means its been three years and Ma and Prosecutor Yeo still have not hooked up. I am 100% against this. Are they not going to hook up? Has this drama really been about lawyerly stuff this entire time and I’ve been twiddling my thumbs on some will-they-won’t they-nonsense that was NEVER coming to pass?

    Well. That burns my buttons right there.

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      There seems to have been a mistranslation, no? It’s been only 3 months since the whole Sangho ordeal. The narrative wouldn’t make sense if it had been 3 years. Plus, show hasn’t had any fancy text in a corner telling us there’s been another time jump since the 3 months one.

      But yes, I hope we get otp next week. I need direct YD suddenly going up to him and demanding an answer to her ‘officially dating’ proposal backkkkk in the good old days.

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WC is seriously overestimating the amount of enjoyment I get watching the evil guys smirk and be evil. Like, overestimating to a ridiculously high degree.

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What I loved about Suji’s confrontation with Mr. Park: She didn’t slap him, she didn’t kick him in the balls. She punched him right in the face, straightened her jacket and walked away. Such. A. BOSS.

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BEANIES!!!!!! I GOT THE JOB!!! The full time Children’s Librarian job in OH that I interviewed for last week! Y’all. So serious, thank you SO MUCH for reading my rants and supporting my tear-fueled

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    nonsense! Oh my goodness. Seriously, I had descended into full-on hermit and was barely talking to my irl friends because failing hurts and is humiliating and while my friends didn’t care about the failure they cared about me—I still couldn’t face them. And y’all–there were DAYS when the conversations that I had here were the only conversations I had at all. You saved me from myself more than once and I’ll always be grateful.

    Also—I may have thrown my mouse against a wall yesterday (it wasn’t a great day, yesterday) and now my left mouse button doesn’t work so I had to make the right button the prominent button and now I have to adhere to the 200 character limit instead of posting paragraphs. Its a hard life. Beanies.

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    Congratulations, @isa!!! I haven’t seen every conversation—will you have a decent commute? When do you start?

    Librarians rock.

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      Dude. There were a lot of conversations and armchair therapy on the fanwall these past few months. Its in a different state so I’ll have to move again which sucks but is necessary. Hopefully since I’m moving already having a job this time I’ll have a better commute than I have now (which is over 2 hours—If I don’t do better I deserve to be stranded on the side of somebodies road somewhere). YAY. And this is a different yay but still a yay—spotify had a sale to upgrade to premium for 99 cents for 3 months and they have a way better kpop selection than napster so I fully intend on listening to kpop all day today and dancing and saying yay at random moments.

      I’m not even scared of the angst coming in BTIOFL. Bring it, drama! Woot!

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    Congratulations! 😀 *throws confetti*

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      YAY!! Thank you! And now all I see in my head that gif that @sicarius posted of GOT7 throwing confetti and Youngjae just not having a single f to give about whatever they were celebrating.

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    Congratulations isa!!!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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    Congratulations!!🎉🎊

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      Thanks, @sweetsammy–has your day gotten any better? I saw your post earlier about having a crummy day at work :/

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        Yesterday happened to be one of the most crappy days at work

        I truly hope today is better!

        Thanks and once again congratulations for the new job!

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    Congratulations! 🎉🎉🎉

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    YAY! Congratulations! I’m on my phone but all the Bobby Flay GIFs for you! So happy for you! I fully expect to be informed of all the excellent new children’s and YA books.

    The beanies are the best too! I was in your same position until a month ago so I definitely understand how hard it is to have IRL friends and family who totally care, but can get hard to face when you’re down. But beanies are definitely a lifeline. I’m convinced drama saves me.

    Congrats again! Go celebrate with k-pop and pie and all the good things! And maybe get some drama bingeing in before you get busy…

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      I’m going to do all of the above! Thanks! I’m all excited!

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    Wow congratulations!!! Sounds like an awesome job 😀

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    You beautiful human being you. YES! CONGRATULATIONS! THat’s so cool!!!! I’m so glad you got it, and that you can listen to kpop the whole way there (I find Block B to be very good driving music).

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      My dad is going to fly up to drive down with me and all my stuff. He did not find Block B soothing (or hype inducing–what an odd duck) when I tried to introduce him to the wonders that is Okey Dokey Yo. He kept muttering “young people music” and switching the station. Buuuut YAYAY!!

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        Hahahaha oh noes! Although how do you not find Block B hype inducing is beyond me 😛
        Still, there’s plenty of other options for him 😛

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    🎊🎉Congrats,Isa!🎉🎊

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      Thanks! It feels like its been a long time coming. I’ve been complaining like its been a long time coming. BUT, now its all YAY!!

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    Oh this is wonderful news! I’m so happy for you!

    Wishing you the best of luck in your new job!

    🎉 Congratulations! 🎉

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      Aww. Thanks, man! I tell you. My interview and subsequent job offer was at 7:30 this morning (ending at 8) and after I texted my dad I came here to share the news with y’all. I’ve certainly shared the wailing. But now—I tell you. I’ve been twirling today. Put on my twirly skirt and twirling.

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    Congratulations. You deserve all the good things.!!!

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So. I love Ms. Ko. I love her. Seeing her feels like we’re getting a glimpse of Suji 8 years in the future. No wonder Ji Ho loves her immedatiely. Shoot now wonder I love her immediately—Suji is my favorite character. I also continue to love Won Seok. I actually thought I was beginning to like (that’s too strong of a word) Ho Rang until that guy came and picked her up. There’s no way this is her first or second time meeting up with him. Who comes running to give you a ride with all of your stuff the first or second (hell or third or fourth) time you meet them? This is a drama so maybe this is their first time meeting but they have certainly had more than that conversation that Won Seok read.

In other news: LEE MIN KI IS FREAKING HOT. And I love watching his face in this drama. The way his lips curved up when he met Ji Ho on the bus was just about everything. And the full fledged smile when she asked to kiss him. Or when he added to his notes that she snores. KILL ME YOU BEAUTIFUL HUMAN.

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    LOVE YOUR COMMENTS!!!!!
    And…
    When Jiho opens her eyes and sees Sehee looking straight at her in just 10 cm distance, I’m like squeaking like crazy!!! I love that the drama gets the 2 girls being friends first, they sure have good chemistry.
    Both Jiho and Sehee are FREAKING HOT together!!!!! Their kisses… They just sit down and play with mandarins and I was like “what will happen next?”. Because it’s HER first time… girl sure acts purely on her (fangirl) instinct, cos she says YES and MORE all the time!!!! Haha I love her so much!
    When Suji and Mr. Ma together, I’m loving them more and more each ep. Suji is all I have ever want myself to grow up to!
    Horang is basically me in reality, tbh, I don’t love myself all the time, I guess that’s just human. That’s why I feel so relatable, and always hoping her happiness… I hope there’s more under the surface we will be exposed to today, like that moment when Won Seok read the message before deciding to break up.

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      I love how nonjudgemental they are together. When she freaked out that they were actually about to sleep together (and I need a scene of how they ended up with that bowl of mandarins. Like See Hee asked if she wanted to sleep together and Ji Ho said yes, please come in, let me go get a bowl of mandarins. I will return shortly.—What? How did we get here?) and pretended to be asleep. First I loved the little wince she gave when he asked if she was asleep –this is something that always kills me in dramas: Someone asks the clearly sleeping person, “Are you asleep?” clearly sleeping person responds, “yes!” and thats that. I loved when she slowly peaked he was just staring at her. They are so sweet together.

      I certainly hope that you are better than Ho Rang and I am just going to believe that you are because I have wanted to kick her since the very beginning and you seem delightful here in Beanieland. I LOVED Ho Rang and Won Seok’s conversation were he said (what I’ve been saying since the beginning)–basically calling her out–that she doesn’t want to marry him she just wants to be married. And when she tried to say that she was just supporting him by talking to that other man? Girl. Bye. Literally this time, bye.
      And because I have made absolutely no secret of my not-fondness of the gal: I love that while she’s part of the friend group Suji and Ji Ho seem closer. HA

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        Now I recall that mandarin thing, it’s quite sudden, maybe we’ll see more flashbacks.
        When Sehee opens the door, he already knows that Jiho is fake sleeping, haha, the way he gets her by asking her, oh my… that’s so cute of him!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And despite all my expectation, Jiho falling asleep immediately due to “what a good night” Sehee makes her feels, and snoring, is the BEST!!!!!!!!
        And Sehee is Sehee: I wonder what other notes he made of Jiho, and if snoring is positive/negative is his “standard”? And the way he’s over confident in cooking, my goodness, I already know there will be a twist!!! :)) No wonder why he loves Jiho’s cooking…
        For Horang, you see, she’s very delightful too! I guess with Suji and Jiho, they will never talk or make friend if it’s not for Horang. You did give her credit for this one! :))
        I said I feel relatable, because I tend to hold on to relationships, for the 7-year things and for her hope of having a family to take care of. I reflect myself a lot watching her. 😀
        Their breakup conversation, I like it too. One reason is that, when she said, she worked hard to make Wonseok an ideal boyfriend, now she only has to make him an ideal husband (I laughed at her determination on working out at that moment)… But she gradually figured out by herself, and also from what Wonseok said about his pressure, that Wonseok (or everything else) might not work out the way she wants! I love the little moments when she heard of 5 years more, and when she checked the bank book, those are already signs of breakup from her side… and even her denial of break up in beginning of the ep… To me, her story is nice, the drama portraits her character as not a perfect or ideal character, but very realistic. Remember when she spread rumors on Suji, then she and Suji fights but she was the only one got scolded, and that she came to Suji’s house to give apple? I love all the aspects of that, how one can be mixed of good and bad! So I don’t find her annoying, and always have high hope to see how the drama makes her grow…

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        I have to say comment section in recap, and beanie section really change the way I watch drama, much more DEEP!!!! And of course, the level of fangirling is like multiple thousand times!!!!! Haha.

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          It does. Very much. One of the reasons that I like the fanwall and the recaps so much is that it gives you an opportunity to see the drama through other people. I don’t blame/am mad at Ho Rang for wanting a family. She’s just never made it seem like it mattered to her who gave it to her. I LOVED the conversation where Won Seok was finally, “Why do you always say YOU were in this relationship for 7 years? That YOU had to wait? That YOU were a victim.” At the very beginning of the drama I felt like Ho Rang would be an interesting character and I was interested in seeing where they went with her. Now I’m only interested in how fast I can get to the ff whenever she’s on screen. I haven’t started ff her YET but every ep I find something new to dislike about her. Selfish, shallow, and manipulative are at the very top of the list.

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            Agree with you on her manipulative tendency.
            Suji pointed out to her their lack of conversation on marriage topic, and she did talk to him. Then, Horang did tell Wonseok what she needs, they did make up, but later on she starts pushing him to get what she wants. In general, her being too aggressive and making Wonseok scared of her… instead of real conversations is what I don’t like most of her.
            And to me, I focus more on the set up of their relationships of their need for communication and honesty, like what Sehee tell Wonseok on rooftop. Horang might not be an ideal female character in dramaland, but having her and her dynamic with Wonseok, initiates our conversations and I learnt a lot from her mistakes and your comments. 😀

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            Please learn nothing from me—I’m an idiot. Well meaning and generally delightful but don’t listen to me on anything.

            I had always been more than slightly annoyed by Ho Rangs characterization but the moment she decided to use sex to manipulate him into getting married. I was done with her.

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          He first walked in with b his pillow then after they kissed he went for beer, 2 I’m assuming to share with Ji-ho to help them bothrelax.

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        Haha, the mandarins had me confused too! And what on earth was Se Hee trying to do to the one he picked?😂 Did he think hitting it would open it up?😂

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          I took that as a way to disperse some of that sexual tension. Like, “I came in here to see if she wanted to do the lay down move around and she’s offering me fruit? She said yes? I’m not crazy? She said yes?” I had to go back to watch her say yes again, just to verify.

          I will say last week I had a dream about these two. Ji Hoo says yes and See Hee takes her out of the room and starts putting his shoes on and she’s all where are we going? And he’s all, to buy condoms! And they went to go buy condoms and Ji Ho followed him around as he strategically placed the condoms (he bought a lot) in all of the various places he could envision them having sex. And then they sat at the kitchen table to discuss any potential consequences of the sex and whether or not it would be better for Ji Hoo to move in to his bedroom and then they could rent her old room out. Thats a dream I should have shared earlier…

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            Woah, that’s some dream you had. 😂

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            HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Glad I’m not alone.
            I find it odds for Sehee to grab some beer!!!!!!!
            I though he should go pick up condom, not beer.
            And then he picks 2 beers instead of 1, must be to share with Jiho.
            But when he comes to Jiho’s room, he is only holding his pillow.
            Is it a time gap of a long time here???
            And also, he only gets out of Jiho’s room around morning.
            So they sleep together one night, right?

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            I thought he went to get a beer to cool himself down–he hasn’t dated since his ex as far as we know–things could have been a bit too hot for him, if you know what I’m saying. As for those beers. I assumed he had slammed the one he was drinking on his way back and when he heard her snoring–he slammed the other (in disappointment)

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        I wish I had more to add but Aaaaaaaa. That was so great. I swear LMK has dropped a year or two each episode. And honestly sleeping would not be an opotion, if I opened my eyes and saw that face staring at me Nope sleep just wouldn’t happen.

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    The two moments that shot me dead this episode:

    1. When Ji-ho opened her eyes and saw him looking right at her. OMG. Ya’ll know I have a thing for his eyes and that was almost too much for me. I think my heart stopped.

    2. The way they looked at each other and smiled when the bus pulled up. The simplest and yet sweetest thing in the world.

    Someone was right when they said on last week’s recap (I think) how he has matured as an actor. In the other couple of things I’ve seen him in he has always been undeniably, kind of boyishly charming. But THIS? This is something else entirely.

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Two things about WC. 1) I am sick of Ma doing the stupidest possible thing and 2. I’m sick of her losing every time. But it makes sense that she loses because her plans are STUPID AF.

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    she’s so frustrating!

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      She really is, though. What happened to that bad ass from the beginning of the drama? She did reckless things then as well but they were well thought out, they made sense and THEY WORKED. I get that this is going after the dude who sexually tortured, kidnapped, and as far as she knows murdered her mother so she’s lacking in perspective but I’mma need her to smarten up.

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