Beanie level: Chaebol’s poor doppelganger

Are drama slumps contagious? 🙁 It feels like the past few dramas I’ve watched I made it to a certain point and then started ff like crazy because everyone was pissing me off. Not all…but a lot.

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Don’t mind me folks, I need to rant. There’s a 3 page long rant on Say That You Love Me below. If you are insane enough to read it all…Caution. There be spoilers.

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    So, I have been watching Say That You Love Me which is a Chinese adaptation of Itzaura na Kiss (which I need to watch because the more I think about it the less sure I become that I actually have seen this version). Of the three versions that I have seen It Started with a Kiss, Playful Kiss, Kiss Me: Thai all three had the same basic format: Female lead develops crush on Male lead when she first sees/meets him on the first day of their freshman year of school. On the first day of their senior year she gives him a love letter and he grades it harshly and gives it back to her and tells her that he doesn’t date stupid women. Meanwhile, the Second Male lead developed a crush on the female lead at around the same time that the female lead developed a crush on the Male lead. SL is there all throughout the show from the time when FL is chasing ML to when they finally hook up and get married until he finally finds a love of his own in the last few eps of the drama. The female second lead doesn’t show up until later in the series. She’s a go-getter and extremely competitive but I don’t remember her being particularly vindictive or anything (I don’t have a great memory). She’s very much presented as the female version of the male lead—who is heralded by one and all as the most perfect male specimen to ever exist on the earth. I actually really like her in I believe all of the version (don’t hold me to this). They all have their strengths and weaknesses but they all tell the same basic story. That’s why they are remakes.
    Say That You Love Me is an adaptation. It starts when they are already in college. The female lead (Zao Zao) professes her love to the male lead (Ou Hae Chen) and is humiliated but not by a publicly rejected love letter. Zao Zao has to live with Ou Hae Chen and his family for awhile but not because her house fell down in an earthquake. These changes are all well and good and make the show more interesting in its own right. But now.
    The annoyance.
    Male second lead. What the heck is this dudes point, man? Ok. He shows up about 5 eps in and spills a drink all over Zao Zao as convenient plot device for other shenanigans going on in the ep. About 2-5 (memory) eps later he’s back—but he’s Ou Hae Chen’s long lost best friend who’s just returned from the states who is starting the semester at their school. He loves Zao Zao’s crush on Ou Hae Chen and makes it his mission on earth to get the two together. Or put Zao Zao in embarrassing scenarios. I have NO IDEA why this is happening. At first it seems like maybe he has a thing for the second female lead (Shang Guan Yi) or perhaps they know and hate each other from somewhere else—but, no. This is his new hobby. Thwarting Shang Guan Yi and trying to get Zao Zao and Ou Hae Chen together. Or humiliate Zao Zao. Or both.
    tbc

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      In a development that I really liked in the beginning when Ou Hae Chen starts dating Shang Guan Yi Zao Zao moves out of his house. She decides that she doesn’t want to watch the two of them together and instead focuses on school and work and moving on. Which is awesome. Except that Shang Guan Yi and Ou Hae Chen date for an entire year and its incredibly boring. During this year Ou Hae Chen realizes that he misses Zao Zao but he can’t figure out why. He doesn’t like it when Shang Guan Yi is mean to Zao Zao and he doesn’t understand why. He doesn’t like that Zao Zao seems to be avoiding him when they had just started to be pretty good friends before he started dating Shang Guan Yi. But he doesn’t understand why. During this year apart. Second lead (Han Fei) spends more and more time with Zao Zao. At one point when Zao Zao is completely over Ou Hao Chen Han Fei wonders if maybe he has fallen in love with Zao Zao. This is not mentioned again for like ten eps Eventually Ou Hae Chen realizes that he’s fallen in love with Zao Zao and for about 3 seconds this is really, really cute (this show tends to take really, really cute and drag it out way too long). He has used his business management skillset to determine a plan (weighing his strengths and weaknesses against something or other in something called a SWOT) to get Zao Zao to like him again. He tries to get her to go on dates with him and she shoots him down every time. The one time he gets her to have dinner with him he spends some time studying his SWOT board and examining his weaknesses and determines that around her he gets quiet and somewhat shy and domineering and they fall into awkward silences so to offset that he tries his hand at magic. And fails. Miserably. (he looks ADORABLE when he looks at her as she’s reprimanding him for ruining a perfectly fine dinner. He practiced for days those magic tricks to impress her)
      But just like the 1 year long relationship lasted too long—the show is 32 eps long. I think Ou Hae Chen and Shang Guan Yi started dating in like ep 10 and they broke up in something like ep 22 (it was like ep 16 that Han Fen realizes that he’s fallen for Zao Zao). I’m in ep 26 now. Ou Hae Chen has been actively pursuing Zao Zao since the break up in ep 22.
      Now…I like it when things are fair. I know that’s pretty ridiculous. Things are never fair. I think that’s why Dan Ah pisses me off so much in SD. How she treats others isn’t fair. We have now entered the unfair part of the drama. And as much as those 10+ eps of the show dragged when we were focused on building the friendship between Zao Zao and Han Fen and the relationship between Ou Hae Chen and Shang Guan Yi there was still enough cuteness to get me through. Now, I’m just annoyed.
      tbc

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        Ou Hae Chen has been bending over backwards to make Zao Zao see that he’s changed and that he likes her. She’s been staunchly refusing his advances. As is her right. She doesn’t have to like him just because he likes her now. She liked him for 4 years and got nowhere. Whats annoying me is that other than the throwaway scene almost 10 eps ago where Han Fen mentioned that he might be in love with her that storyline was completely dropped for the past 10 eps. There were no lingering glances. No casual brush of the fingers. Nothing to show that he saw her as anything other than someone that he delights in annoying. He did take Zao Zao out for her birthday but that annoyed the hell out of me. He didn’t know it was her birthday until he heard her on the phone making plans with her other friends and he snatches her phone out of her hand and cancels the plans so that he can take her out to dinner instead. This seemed so SELFISH to me. This was the start of his starting to actively pursue Zao Zao. Meanwhile, Ou Hae Chen has planned a surprise party with his parents and Zao Zao’s dad and he can’t find her to bring her to it (she hasn’t seen her dad in a really long time) because Han Fen has taken her phone and turned it off. Which reads possessive as hell to me.
        Ou Hae Chen has been actively pursuing Zao Zao for at least 4 eps now. Han Fen has decided seemingly out of nowhere that he’s going to go for it now. Like, WTF, dude. For like 14 eps you were in the clear. Take yo’ shot, homie.
        Now that Ou Hae Chen is making a play Han Fen is being uber aggressive. Like, every time I turn around he’s trying to start a fight with Ou Hae Chen. Ou Hae Chen for the most part walks away from the swinging fists or the overly aggressive basketball game maybe throwing back some smart ass taunts but that’s about it. Instead of this being about who Zao Zao wants to be with Han Fen has turned this into a fight/competition that no one wants any part of. But what burst my buttons is when during a basketball game Han Fen started a fist fight with Ou Hae Chen. The fight gets broken up and the two are screaming at each other and Han Fen breaks free from the guys who are holding him back (Ou Hae Chen isn’t being held back because he’s not trying to continue the fight at all. He didn’t even start it.) and moves to slug Ou Hae Chen was is just standing there. Zao Zao comes running between the two and puts herself in between the punch. Ou Hae Chen pulls Zao Zao behind him and tells her not to jump in front of flying fists and Zao Zao goes off on Ou Hae Chen when she just SAW Han Fen starting the fight and says that she knew that Han Fen wouldn’t hit her because he would never hurt her. GTFO. She then leads a smirking Han Fen away to tend to his wounds and a heartbroken Ou Hae Chen slumps to the ground and dumps some water over his head and mopes. So of course, the next day when its time for the big game (against Han Fen, NATCH) tbc

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          Ou Hae Chen is practically delirious with fever (whenever anyone gets wet in a drama unless its romantic rain they are on deaths door the next day), loses the game, and passes out on the court. Zao Zao runs over to him while Han Fen—petitioning to be the grand freaking puba at the petty parade—refuses to go over and see whats wrong with his supposed best friend/”brother”. Next thing we know we’re at Ou Hae Chen’s bedside and Zao Zao and Han Fen are bickering about how they should leave, want to leave but can’t leave because they are Ou Hae Chen’s “best friends’ so they should stay. GTFO. I ship him with NO ONE at this point. Han Fen drags Zao Zao aside to demand to know if she has any feelings left for Ou Hae Chen and once she assures him that she’s long since moved on Han Fen agrees to leave—to sit and wait for her in front of her dorm until she’s finished helping Ou Hae Chen.
          Ok. I get why Zao Zao is trying so hard to either not care about Ou Hae Chen. She liked him 4 years and chased him for 1. He was always clear (at times to the point of painful douchery) that he wasn’t in to her. Now that he is in to her I don’t blame her for guarding her heart. And for generally not wanting to go back to being that girl who was in love with him. She was pathetic as hell. But, she didn’t even check on him after that fight. Even when Ou Hae Chen didn’t like her he still looked out for her and cared about her because she was his friend. She’s not doing the same at all. Han Fen’s animosity that is bordering on hatred for Ou Hae Chen is legit coming from NO WHERE. Like, DUDE. WTF?
          So, Ou Hae Chen sees Zao Zao sitting on the side of his bed and he goes for a hug and she pushes him off and it takes work to get him off of her because even though she’s screaming get off me he’s not listening (its actually an uncomfortable scene to watch) and she storms off and falls down the steps and faints. A miraculously healed Ou Hae Chen carries her up to her old room where his parents fuss over her and he apologizes and decides to give up on her.
          I don’t mind changes to the origin story. But this shiz makes no sense. The characters that were fine and perfectly in character for the first 20+ eps are now doing stupid things to drag the plot along. At this point. I just want the OTP to be together. They’ve both suffered long enough. Dammit, I’ve suffered long enough. I just really, really hate that they took Han Fen who was amusing even though his purpose on the show wasn’t ever clarified and made him this super angry second lead when that was never his deal.
          End rant.

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Like someone said earlier here on the boards. I wish I spoke Korean so that I could do other things while watching dramas. Although, in this case the drama is from China so speaking Korean wouldn’t help a whole heck of a lot!) Its so hard to walk away and start packing when I’m in the middle of a binge session and the preview for the next ep shows that there’s going to be a confession and its not going in the direction I would have anticipated. I LOVE how in this version of Itazura na Kiss the female lead actually spends several episodes working on herself and honestly trying to get over the male lead. She loves herself enough to know that the way he treats her isn’t ok. She still has feelings for him—but she’s put them aside and is actually trying to get over him and work on herself.

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I am moving tonight and have left all 6 of my bookcases for last to pack. This was a terrible idea as I know exactly what’s going to happen! I’ll start out strong and get school books, nonfiction, work-related books packed no problem. Then I’ll start laying aside one or two (dozen) cookbooks to flip through when my dad is driving (he’s helping me since it’s a 17 hour drive) and then I’ll start in on my general adult fiction and general YA fiction and P&P variations and adaptations and will find myself re-reading favorite passages and setting aside the illustrated Harry Potter and Pride and Prejudice to read in the car even though I already have 30 books to read in the car (not to mention dramas downloaded) when I need to be done by 6pm so that I can nap for 6 hours before taking my turn at the wheel! And then it will be time to pack my favorites bookshelf. I will get NOTHING accomplished. (and of course, the break to watch FiS and another ep of STYLM) Poor decision making is my only real life skill!

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    That sounds like a big move! Good luck with packing. 😉

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    You can do it Isa!

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    Sending you good wishes for the move! Hope you are able to all that impossible-sounding stuff in the 17hour ride! 😉

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    Good luck on your packing and move! 📦 🚗

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    Sooooo…thanks for the good vibes, Beanies, however my dad just said, “Hey, lets leave on Monday–truck rentals bedamned.” And I was all….drama marathon and procrastination it is!

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I love love when people post music on their fan walls! Since I don’t work with delightful gal A who introduced me to kpop and kdramas and kept giving me groups to listen to I hadn’t been listening to any new groups (I kind of hate finding new music to listen to. You go through so much garbage before you find anything good). Now, since everyone has been posting their favorite bands and videos and tracks and artists my playlist is exploding with more than just the usual suspects. THANKS BEANIES!!

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The lead in Say That You Love Me sounds like a freaking Teletubby. I’ve been barreling through because I genuinely like the show, but every ep her voice, specifically (dubbing in general) has gotten on my nerves. Tonight I finally put my finger on it—she sounds like a goll dern Teletubby! I had to go on youtube to listen to the Teletubby’s speak to be sure—but, yeah. That’s it. Its hard to take anyone seriously when they sound like mother f’in tinky-winky.

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Ok. This is beginning to feel like a weekly thing. I hate Dan Ah. Seeing the way Jin Gyu and fawn all over her with doe-eyes after what she said to him, and seeing the way Kang Soo stares at her with doe eyes even after refusing to apologize (why are you sorry? I should be sorry!—and yet, no apology, just storms away) just makes me like her less. She feels like one of the characters who consistently does the most awful thing possible but everyone loves them anyway. Like their awfulness doesn’t compute because their attractive. When all of the debtors came for Dan Ah it seemed like I was supposed to feel badly for her—but, nope. Not at all. The vase wouldn’t have happened if she weren’t so awful. She accepted the VIP room because Jin Gyu is rich. At the end of the day she only cares about what effects her bottom line. I kind of wanted her to get arrested for beating up the cops since it seems neither male lead is going to get upset with her.

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    I was so annoyed with her I didn’t even enjoy the pretty running around being pretty and such. When I saw @lenrasoon‘s tribute to the dimples…I didn’t even recognize him. I had been scowling at the screen muttering about how much Dan Ah annoys me that I didn’t even recognize a good pair of dimples. I have got to either let my annoyance of her go (it’s gonna be a looooong road to redemption) or let the show go. Not noticing pretty is unacceptable drama viewing behavior!

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    Agree with you! I kept trying to give her a second chance until today’s episode. I was frustrated watching her everytime she came on screen. Especially when she went off with Jin Gyu after kicking Kang soo. Like, she doesn’t even know the story behind why they’re fighting but sticks with JG only because he’s promised to give her money.
    Like you said, she wasn’t even sorry to Kang soo! Why is Kang soo being so nice to her?? I don’t get it! It’s not like he likes her! JG at least fell for her in the previous episodes but Kang soo and Dan ah didn’t even start off on good terms. *shakes head and mutters* 😒

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      And I feel like they are trying to force KS and Dan-ah together without a proper reason..
      Other than Dan-ah now needing money again to pay back her hospital fees and the vase lady. I would’ve said ‘serves her right’ except KS is helping her and…sighsss!

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      I agree with this I just don’t under stand why Jin Gyu fell for her. I think her telling him to commit suicide last ep–after pulling him from the river after attempting suicide–was a step or two too far for me. It was presented as if she was “just kidding” she didn’t think his reason for being depressed/wanting to commit suicide was good enough last ep and this ep he’s in love with her?

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        You’re right. It was presented as if she was just kidding…yet she was actually livid to find out his reasons weren’t good enough. I can’t believe that she told him to go die because that just shows that she actually regrets saving a life! From her POV, being rich means being happy.

        I actually didn’t think too much of this scene because I thought that’s why JG likes her..because she saved his life and so he’s grateful to her for that.

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I like Say That You Love Me well enough, but they do the dubbing thing which is incredibly annoying. I don’t have any desire to hear every single breath the characters take. And to make matters worse they have Zao Zao (and only Zao Zao) make a series of stupid gasping breaths, exaggerated sighs, and stupid breathy chuckles. It’s a really, really cute show. But this one thing is INCREDIBLY annoying. Also….Zao Zao cries a lot—but the actress can’t do it. Her eyes don’t get wet, or red—they don’t even give the girl some eye drops—so whenever she’s supposed to be crying its mostly just her making a series of gasping and snuffling sounds. I’m on ep 12 of 30 and I’m not sure if I can make it to the end. Maybe if I watch on mute while listening to something else…

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    The second female lead in this show is legit the worst. She frames Zao Zao because she easedropped and heard Ou Hae Chen promise to take her on a romantic date if she makes it to the top 100 on their final.

    Ou Hae Chen learns that a watch that Zao Zao is wearing (that she thinks is a gift from him) is really a hightech device used to cheat on exams and he rushes to get it away from her before she gets busted. Of course the two of them are caught holding the watch. He takes the fall because his grades are exceptional and have been exceptional since he was born–he has no reason to cheat at anything–so the worst he’ll get is a slap on the wrist. Evil second lead comes up to Zao Zao who is (of course) crying her eyes out (not literally as she has NO TEARS) and screaming about the injustice of it all and tells Zao Zao that being caught cheating can get you expelled from school and ruin your chances of ever landing a good job. She literally goes on and on about how cheating can ruin Ou Hae Chen’s entire life for a good 2.5 minutes in the show all to get Zao Zao to confess.
    But…its completely acceptable to ruin Zao Zao’s future to make sure they don’t go on a date? Dude. They already leave together. If they want to do the lay down move around, a candlelit dinner isn’t going to make it happen.

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    I’ve totally muted some Chi/Tai shows because of the dubbing.

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Hey! I’m a Chaebol’s poor doppelganger. Sweet! I’m unaware of when this change happened. Maybe I can bump into the Chaebol and he can pay off some of my student loans. Plz. And buy me a cute house…

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    Congratulations!

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    Congrats Isa!

    Or maybe,just keep your chaebol’s black AMEX for yourself

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    Congrats 🎉 I’m sure a cute house is no big deal for you chaebol. Enjoy your time with him! 😊

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    Congrats 🎉🎊🎉🎊

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    Congratsss🎉🎉

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    Congratulations!!!! 🎉🎉

    Be greedy and ask for a mansion instead kekeke!!!

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    Yayy for you! Make good use of the credit cards!
    I’m actually surprised it took you so long to reach Chaebol’s lookalike status considering your activity! If it took u so long.. it’s gonna take me forever! I think we became Eunuchs around the same time.. Not that I’m complaining with PBG as the prince!

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    Congratulations!

    On to new adventures!

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    Congrats! 🙂 Go and have a blind date to another chaebol and make him fall in love with you to the point that his mind won’t change once he discover the truth. HAHA!

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So. I’ve been watching Say That You Love Me which is a 2005 Taiwanese remake/adaptation of Itazura na Kiss. While watching I suddenly wanted to see the honeymoon ep but I’ve seen so many versions of this story that I couldn’t remember which one and wound up watching two eps of Playful Kiss and then some favorite scenes from It Started with a Kiss and They Kiss Again which lead to watching the last ep of They Kiss Again. Man. It doesn’t matter how many times I’ve seen these shows or how often I get annoyed with both of the leads (in all of the versions) the last ep of They Kiss Again always makes me cry. Always. When Zhi Shu asks Xiang Qin if she can see him and she says that she can I bawl. Actual tears down my actual face. Every.Single.Time.

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    And the scene in They Missed Again where she runs away and he finds her and brings her back to show her all of the memories. Every. Time.

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      For all of the sheer stupidity that happens in that show (the entire honeymoon ep is trying–even though its my favorite ep of the series) it has so much heart. I really do love it. I had been thinking of doing a Kiss Me: Thai rewatch since I enjoy AoMike so much but I just may rewatch It Started with a Kiss instead.

      First I have to watch those last 3 eps of BOF….both of my buddywatch homies finished DAYS ago!

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    I’ve watched Itazura Na Kiss, but have never watched the KDrama version of it. I’m afraid I won’t like it… :/

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      Its not my favorite version of it. Ok, Pride and Prejudice is my favorite story of all time. I love the book. I love every adaptation of it that I’ve seen (and I’ve seen A LOT). Fanfiction, fan sequels, modern adaptations, all of it. But, even versions of it that I don’t love (the Keira Knightely version is crap) there are still elements of it that I enjoy (when Mr. Darcy hands Elizabeth into the carriage and flexes his hand when he walks away and when Lizzy is teasing Jane about Bingley and Jane ducks under the covers and wiggles/screams in embarrassment/happiness) because its a story that I genuinely enjoy seeing played out. That is kind of where I am with Itazura Na Kiss. Playful Kiss isn’t my favorite version (I think that’s going to be It Started with a Kiss–but I need to rewatch Itazura Na Kiss because I don’t remember it as well–I’m not sure where Kiss Me: Thai would fall in the line up because its not a remake so much as an adaptation because of one or two fairly huge differences in the story) but there are elements of it that I genuinely enjoy. Oh Ha Ni–in spite of possibly being the stupidest of the leades (its hard to talk about because in each version her name is different!)–is my favorite version of the character. Followed very closely (neck and neck even) by Xiang Qin.

      As for not straight remakes–I love Taliw. She’s super dumb though. Like. There are probably plastic barbie shoes that are smarter than her. And I really like the lead in Say That You Love Me. She isn’t smart but she is capable. She can make basic dishes (including cookies from scratch!) that are edible and don’t burn the house down! The bar is set way low on a skill set for this character.

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Way, way too much Hee Chan but when Bo Ra and Dae Hwi show up they show up. And I’m just assuming that Sa Rang is a member of this friend group. Maybe she was hiding in the corner when Bo Ra and Eun Ho were laughing in the hang out.

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So….this is one of my very favorite videos. I love this song, just in general, but I like it SO MUCH MORE when everyone is extra tipsy.

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    That 2pm Tipsy Live is legendary in al ways I could think of

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      Oh my gosh. The Hands Up tipsy live is ridiculous. Every time I watch it and they get to the point in the song where they say, “Everyone get ya hands up, get ya drinks up!” All I can think is duuuuude. 2pm….no. No more drinks. Such a fun video. I actually like this version of Promise more than the one on the album.

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        I remember I even counted how many soju bottles were seen on screen hahaha

        Agree the lives including this tipsy live captured the rawness of Promise

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Block B has me in my room clapping and screaming like I’m at an actual concert. I’m thisclose to like holding up my cellphone and swaying.

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Why is Zico over here trying to be a little bias ruiner? Stay in your lane, dude. I’ve got a thing going on over here. But. I am just a person. Shallow. Yes. Fickle. Maybe? This first song, though.

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    Umm…nevermind. Taeil may not be fully human.

    This could be a Vromance situation where every single person is so dag on talented that picking a bias could be pointless. Like. Whoever is singing/rapping/making eye contact with the camera is my bias.

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      Hahahaha yeah that’s how I feel whenever I see Zico live. He’s just fantastic. And artist is such a fun song.
      ^^ this though haha.

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I am really digging Say That You Love Me . I love that in this version the female lead isn\’t completely helpless and has more going for her than a spunky personality and blind optimism.

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So, I don’t know why—I honestly don’t—but from the first time I watched Playful Kiss I have been obsessed with this story. Don’t ask me why because every time I watch it (or one of the remakes or adaptations) I in part get frustrated at the leads—particularly the female lead for having no goals or ambitions outside of making this dude love her. But there is something about her in every single adaptation that I have seen that makes me love her. So, I just found a version that I haven’t seen before—an adaptation where they start off in college (apparently there are other big changes as well) and it’s so cute so far! Hopefully I can track down the Miss in Kiss version and Mischievous Kiss: The Movie according to MDL those are the only versions (outside of the one I’m watching now) that I haven’t seen yet. There may be a rewatch of Kiss Me: Thai in my future. AoMike are so precious!

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    Same!
    I first came across the series when I was all into the ‘Cold Male Lead’ thang, and the first version that I saw it on was the Manga, and it was fairly easy to get through it because I could just zoom past the scenes in which they were being super dumb. I then watched an adaptation a year later, and my first thought was “How the f*** did I ever like this??”. I haven’t seen all the versions, because I mostly wanted to forget abut the series.
    The most resent one I watched was the Thai version, and I think that is the only version of the two of them actually being human. And AoMike is just… squishy.

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      I love every.single.version of this show that I encounter. Like, they get on my nerves but even when i’m thinking WTF is wrong with you people I’m still here for every single moment. One of my favorite drama moments is Oh Ha Ni counting kisses and being told by Baek Seung Jo that she doesn’t have to count anymore. I swooned. And season 2 legit made me cry.

      This version is already hilarious. I’m only on the second ep and I have laughed out loud—LOUDLY–half a dozen times.

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        It’s a worse addiction than Boys over Flowers.
        There is so much I hate about that story but every time I find a new adaptation I find myself rabidly watching it.

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          It is! I think, though, every time I see a new version of this drama its a bit better than the last one. I’m not sure how anything can top the squishiness of AoMike. I still look online like once a week for news of an upcoming drama between those two. This one is Say That You Love Me I think its a c-drama and I’m watching it on dramacool. :/

          Like I said, I’m two eps in–they don’t do the grading her love letter opening that the other dramas do. This opening is….I had to look away. The second hand embarrassment was too real. I spent a great deal of time yelling at the computer: CHILD GET UP!!

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        Which version are you currently watching? I couldn’t quite make it out in your comment (Also, I almost said ‘Kiss’ instead of version. What even is my life)
        The part that gets me every time (Despite it being a huge douche move) is when he kisses her for the first(?) time when she says that she is going to try and get over him. I don’t know why I like that part so much. I honestly shouldn’t. But oh my gosh I squeal.

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          There are so many parts about this whole story that I am just…AGAINST. I want to rail and kick and grab Oh Ha Ni (or whatever the characters name may be) and say, “Oh, honey, you deserve so much better than this douche canoe”.

          And I hate, hate that in Mischievous Kiss in order to make Joon Gu a worst lead they have him practically attack Oh Ha Ni. I hate that scene. So much. But, right after there’s Seung Jo’s confession and all is right with the world. It helps that this version is by far the worst version so every other one has been considerably better. Kiss Me: Thai gave me the worst case of Second Lead Syndrome I have ever encountered. And I love that for the most part TenTen wasn’t outright mean to Taliw. He was just harboring 10 year hurt feelings and a crush. I don’t know. This show, man. Addictive.

          I forgot to mention which version I’m watching. That’s why you couldn’t find it 🙂 Say That You Love Me I think that its a C-drama.

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    What’s this version called, BTW? And where are you watching it? LOL

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Show. Lets talk, you and I. I am here for swoony good times. SWOONY. GOOD. TIMES. I understand the importance of plot and balance and such. However, why are you pairing my swoony good times up with abusive a*holes and sad, sad liar breakups? In other news…lets take up a collection to order a Truck of Doom for Hee Chan. And his mother. And her team o’lawyers. Oh, and therapy for ol’ girl. She’s in need.

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    Haha! The first time i Have heard of someone roaring for a truck of doom to appear and even being ok with raising funds for it!! 😂
    Your outrage is the best!

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    What needs to happen is that The Duo get hit with the dear Ol’ truck of doom, the son to die, and the mother to get amnesia. Everyone abandons her because she is Satan on Earth, and she is all alone without remembering anything. And then Bo-Ra finally grows a pair and confronts her and Mommy dearest remembers, realizing that her son whom she lived through is dead, she jumps off a building.

    Both puppy couples get together, BoRa finally finds someone to trust, and the school is eventually closed due to everyone who runs it being batshit crazy.

    The end~~~

    (That got a bit dark…..)

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      LMAO.
      The only thing I would add is: Bromance restored.

      Oh, and Bit Na. In spite of all of her best efforts Bit Na fails to get into college. Any college. Anywhere. Since college has always been her only aspiration she can not think of any other way to succeed in life. She turns to a life of crime. She tells herself that its all right–she’s only going to do this one thing- forge an acceptance letter into the college of choice–but she soon finds herself going down the fast track to the criminal world. She’s cruel, ambitious and insane. She rises quickly among the ranks of the criminal underbelly. She learns that she likes this path even more than the traditional route. She doesn’t have to hide her proclivity for cruelty here. However, her fast rise earned her many enemies. Sad to say that before the first year is out Bit Na is viciously murdered by members of her own gang (including those awful 3 bully girls). The killing, however, wasn’t done without flaws. The three girls and various others are all arrested and sent up the river. Where they were immediately murdered by current inmates who just could NOT with those lousy attitudes.

      The puppy couples, having brunch on campus one lovely sunny mid-morning (double date, natch) when Dae He tells everyone to click on a link he’s sending about their old classmate. They all make appropriate horrified noises and continue eating waffles.

      the end. 🙂

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        Ah! Almost forgot about the bromance! It is super dupper restored, and both are living their very very happy lives.
        Also:
        I shall see your revenge plot, and raise you this.
        Actually, as it turns out, the three bully girls were ALSO driving the truck of doom! (What a coincidence!) So after they murder Bit Na, the police investigated and found out about their dark past, so they got a longer prison sentence (not that it mattered). One of the inmates that assisted in THEIR murder was a fellow student who was forced to drop out of the school due to the Bullies antics.
        And the Old Headmaster (principal headmaster whatever) ended up actually pissing off TaeSwoons dad (because he’s become awesome now.) and thus becomes homeless and lower than the people whom he deemed trash.
        Police lady actually gets a purpose and arrests him for the mistreatment of the students, and thus he goes to jail and is destined to the same fate.
        Issue is irrelevant now the puppy couple got together, so we will just toss him aside. (Fine. Successful solo career or a happy driver of an Ice Cream truck. I couldn’t care less)

        And, as a final cute light hearted addition to round this all off: Strawberry Milk Cutie finds a girl who like Banana Milk.

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          Very nice!

          And for the very end…Guidance Counselor and Cop lady get married, start a teen outreach program helping teens on the brink of—something—with the handy PE teacher hanging around, making snarky comments. He quickly becomes a teen favorite. Much to his disgruntlement.

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            And occasionally the Grim Reaper teacher comes by to help. But he will never actually admit he. (He later retires from teaching to become a love councilor)

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I love 2pm. They aren\’t my favorite kpop group but when I need to buckle down and focus on something–nothing keeps me going better than them. A Gentleman\’s Game is a great album!

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Like I was saying, I don’t think its so much that they look alike–you’re not going to make one for the other–but I think there’s a resemblance there. Could be just me.

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    I think it’s the vibe. I can’t really explain.

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The actress who plays Sang Min totally looks like Maggie Q to me. Maybe not looks so much, but favors her somehow. So pretty!

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    I don’t really see similarities but I do have a soft spot for both of them 😀

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      I’ve just spent some time looking at pics of them both (such a hardship!) and its not so much that they look like one another as they favor one another. I think its the general shape of their faces and bone structure. Something about their eyes, forehead, top of the cheek area really looks similar to me. Like, if they were cast to play siblings it would make sense to me. Since I don’t know how to post a pic in a reply I’ll add a pic to my fanwall to show what I mean.

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