It seems like every woman in this drama (except for Xinxing and her friend) is evil, stupid, weak, or a combination. I was slowly won of by Xinxings mom and Anni is tolerable as long as she’s NOWHERE near Zhaoxun. I feel like they are trying to do the same to Tianyus mom. To that I say: no way Jose. But then they somehow made me ship Xinxing and Tianyu.
I’ve always thought that about Zhaoxun and Xinxing from Xinxings point of view. I never thought about how guilty he must feel. Her father’s decision wasn’t Zhaoxuns fault but he’d clearly feel guilty about it. I wonder if he’ll learn that her father visited Yucheng group before his drowning? I hope it lessens the guilt he feels. I can’t ship him with Xinxing (she and Tianyu are just too adorable). But I really hope Zhaoxun gets a happy ending.
Just got a letter from my insurance saying that they aren’t covering *any* of my hospital stay because they deemed it was “medically unnecessary “. Tell that to the 13% of my body coveted in burns and grafts and tell that ro my donor site that goes from the top of my thigh to the top of my knee and almost all the way around. And hurts All. The. Time.
Clearly I’m going to fight it. But right now I’m just going to be pissed.
UGH. Be pissed. I’m pissed for you. Insurance in this country is a joke. It’s such nonsense that you have to go through all this and then spend your energy fighting them on top of it.
I’m so sorry you have to deal with the added aggravation on top of the pain, I hope you can get it sorted out and focus on healing soon. I just popped over here fo the 1st time in awhile sorry about your accident.
Bromance ep 9 taking a break from my drama to focus on some fictional drama with some top notch skinship.
I absolutely hate the woman that ZiFengs amnesiac father has been living with for the past 7 years. She’s like whelp. Old guy says he doesn’t recognize you. That must be that. And then when she finally admits that her dad fished him out of the sea she’s like…well! We took him to the hospital that one time and he didn’t like it! I thought it was finders keepers losers weepers when it came to old people you find in the sea!
Girl. Go away.
Also it’s weird as he’ll that the vet met Pi Yanou once when they were kids and 20 years later presents himself as a love interest talking about I’ve been waiting. They didn’t even meet! He overheard a conversation between two little girls and based his ENTIRE life on it? Maaaaaaaan. Get right tf on outta here
amnesiac ?
*Ahem* , what I have learned from dramas regarding amnesia.
A good smack to the head can cure it !
Cooking a certain food also restores memories.
( h/t Good Bad Mom 🐷 & J drama First Love: Hatsukoi ✈️)
I love how ALL of their friends are so invested in Pi Yanou and ZiFeng getting together. They just had their first (awkward) kiss and their two best friends not only snapped sneaky pics of the event but sent the pics immediately to ZiFeng and Pi Yanou. Adorable.
Now why are they trying to ruin my awkward first kiss high with stupid gangster stuff? It’s as badly written as boring ass cancer girl but occasionally they have fight scenes. I am such a sucker for a fight scene.
It is 12:06pm right now where I am. Twice so far today I’ve been asked how I was doing. Frfr. So I told them. I told them about the pain, the house (to move or not to move), my credit score drastically dropping making moving a near impossibility, my neighbor growing drugs in our shared back yard, my car, work and probably a few other things that I’m blanking on right now.
Both people were shocked into an uncomfortable silence at the sheer amount of nonsense my life is right now.
Them: did talking about it at least help?
Me: my jaw hurts now. I talked too much.
It’s interactions like those that remind me that I’m actually going through a lot right now. I forget sometimes.
Your neighbour is growing weed in the backyard? Idk if that is just common there or i am shocked because of the different attitude towards drugs in my country. Also, sometimes it helps verbalise how much you are going through, just to come to terms with the fact that the exhaustion you feel dealing with so many things is not just mood swings or things in your head
*hugs*
I hope verbalizing it will help to make you feel better even if it doesn’t tangibly make the actual situation improve. At the same time, I personally find that when I’ve reached a place wherein I’m able to verbalized something means that I have internalized it to a degree, which helps peace of mind, and protecting my peace is a lot of times the first step in helping with a tangible and practical solution to things ♥️ You got this, Isa!!!
I appreciate it doesn’t solve any of the problems but i’m sending virtual hugs. Those won’t hurt you.
I join everyone else in saying that being able to verbalise it is already moving forward mentally. You’ve got this. Throw your thoughts at us. Tell us when you need cheering up. Tell us when you need a laugh. Tell us when you need a friendly ear. There are dozens of Internet friends here who have never met you but have been thinking about you and wishing you the best since you’ve told us about your fire accident. 🤞
Like others have said, I’m sad I can’t do much more and I know it doesn’t actually do much but I’m so sorry to hear you’re going through so much (like holy shit just one of those things would be a lot) – I’m sending you lots of virtual hugs, love and warm, positive, ‘fighting’ energy to get well soon and get back on track at your own pace eventually. Like others have also said, being able to talk about it out loud with someone – in person or virtually – is often cathartic and a big move in and of itself, so I hope you continue to do so if/when you feel like it! You’ve got this!! 🥰 ❤️
Bromance
I *love* Qing Yangs relationship with ZiFeng.
ZiFeng: do me a favor. Don’t ask any questions just say yes.
Qing Yang (no hesitations or questions): yes
Zi Feng hops up and around the counter steadily encroaching on Qing Yangs personal space. He gets so close that their noses are touching
Qing Yang (not moving back): and what are you doing?
Zi Feng: testing to see if I like men
Qing Yang:….and your answer?
Zi Feng: well, I don’t like you.
Zi Feng moves back to his side of the counter. Qing Yang knowing that this has to do with his best friend falling in love with Pi Yanou just nods and pours him a shot.
Goodness this character is wasted on the ever-useless cancer girl. I will ship him with the badges fairy forever. I mean lookit, he has no family and she loves all of her family fiercely. Look at how determined she is to hook Pi Yanou up with Zi Feng! He’d sit back and be quietly amused at all of her antics, get pulled into antics. Basically have antics. Antics everywhere for everyone! It’s possible I overused antics at the end there. But that’s the strength of my ship. That made sense. Yeah. Go with that.
This drama is so ridiculous.
Random pregnant lady: I’m sorry my belly hurts a bit
RPLF: OH MY GOSH ARE YOU HAVING THE BABY NOW?!
ZiFeng: Yanou! Call security and have an ambulance waiting! This woman is giving birth!
Yanou: there’s no time! ZiFeng! You helped delivery a baby lamb once! This is TOTALLY the same!
Yall. I hate this misunderstanding so much. ZiFeng has made up his mind to confess his feelings. He’s asked Yanou out for dinner, he’s sitting at his desk and writing out his confession and what happens? Yanou accidentally calls him while she’s telling her stupid friend that while she supports gay love she’ll never feel that way about someone from the same sex.
Zifeng quietly balls up and throws away his confession. Later, same ep, Yanou accidentally blurts out that she likes ZiFeng. But ZiFeng is determined to protect his heart and says of course he likes Pi Yanou as well. Yanou is his best brother. The drama makes it up later by letting ZiFeng hear Yanou confess her love after they get together. But in the meantime everyone is sad. Or rather I’m sad. But our cute badass fairy is hear to cheer us up until the confession. Which is right around the corner.
This ost still has my heart in a chokehold. How many years has it been? I still want a prequel (with all the same actors I DONT CARE HOW OLD THEY ARE!) Saltnpaper where are you?! I need more!
So, I\’m rewatching one of my ALL.TIME.FAVORITE dramas. It\’s also one of my least favorite dramas. Shrug.
Bromine.
If you haven\’t seen it, it\’s about a young woman who\’s parents have convinced her that she has to become a boy until her 26th birthday. They went to a shaman when mom was pregnant. If she had a boy the baby would have magnificent luck. But if it\’s a girl—horrible luck until the daughter turns 26.
So a few months before her 26th birthday she meets and falls in love with a gang leader. If you\’re thinking \”oh no! Gangs!\” He\’s mostly obsessed with the amusement park he started with his dad. To the exclusion of everything except for the fact that he seems to be falling in love with his bodyguard. And who is his bodyguard? Our girl. The parts of the drama I hate? Zi Feng (our gang leader) has a best friend who is locked in a HORRIBLE plot line. When he\’s not with boring-ass Cancer girl he\’s a great part of the show. Boring-ass Cancer girl brings the entire drama to a screeching halt. She is one pf the worst actresses I have ever seen. She (and a highly ridiculous plot in general) is the reason this is one of my least favorite dramas. If she could just be lifted out the drama would be so much better. But that\’s what fast forward buttons are for.
I have fanwalled this drama at least 2 times before but I haven’t watched in a couple of years so there’s more to see and say!
I had forgotten the INTENSE starring. Oh my lands. Every few seconds were just going to eye bang each other. Awesome. And I had forgotten that the sister had a crush on Pi Yano for awhile. Also, it’s hilarious that Pi Yanous closest friend (with whom she’s fought and played around and wrestled with) doesn’t know she’s a woman. They make NO EFFORT to hide Megan’s breasts except to put her in a sweater under suit jacket.
Oh my lands Zi Feng is SOO good at looking pitiful when he wants his way. He is SO DRAMATIC!
How have I not watched this in an ongoing loop forever?
How on earth did I forget earth did I forget the badass fairy? First ep and she manages an accidental kiss between the leads? And my gosh the chemistry between Megan and Baron? Good lord.
Man, I loved that drama but cancer girl was The WORST. Everything about that drama was ridiculous in the BEST possible way. Also, that chemistry was something else.
And this is why it’s one of my all time favorites and also one of my all time opposite of favorites. And also why I feel compelled to watch it like every year or two. Love and hate it!
That drama felt like they were just pulling tropes and plot points out of a hat. Mafia male lead? Sure. Amusement park? Why not. Cancer girl who serves no purpose whatsoever? Lets do it!
I love that the twist (look away ifyou don’t want to be spoiled)
Òk. Conscious cleared. I love that the twist is that ZiFeng knows from pretty early on in the drama that Pi Yanou is a woman. Watching it again they have TONS of close calls where she’s in the shower and he walks in or she needs to change her shirt and he’s standing there watching. I mean bodies have curves. Just because she’s standing with her back to him doesn’t explain why he wouldn’t notice the curve of her breasts under her t-shirt as he’s staring INTENSELY at her. He does love to be in her space. And after those hormones finally wake up and she realizes she has feels for him…man!
My Lovely Liar. Huh, I wouldn\’t have thought they would have clued her in to his murder mystery so soon. Also, I\’m not sure how I feel about her ex coming back and that he just happens to be a cop. I do think our leads have cute chemistry and I enjoyed them slowly growing closer. As for the bombshell at the end of the ep—they\’ve already shown that she speaks what she hears but she doesn\’t interpret what she hears so she\’s capable of being wrong. So him ringing her \”he\’s lying!\” bell brings up the question of does she read them as lying if they believe they are telling the truth? I\’m fully ready to handwave away the blood and the glass. Um Ji (and why is that the only name I know?) was determined to off herself. He dragged her in from the ocean she got a bottle or a piece of glass from somewhere and injured herself. I think after pulling her out of the drink he walked away intending to leave her there. She injurs herself and goes back into the ocean. He starts to feel guilty for leaving her and turns around to go back for her but all he finds is the bloody shoes and glass. She\’s injured, bloody, and now in the water. He blames himself (he believes he killed her so the lie detector goes off) because if he hadn\’t have left for even those few minutes then she would still be alive.
The real question is how are they going to have a romance when he\’s carrying the weight of the death of a woman on his back. Boy get you to therapy!
Based on what script writer said herself the main point of the romance is the zero lie relationship between them; “I wanted to share the message of love in the form of understanding and trusting [one’s partner’s] heart even when they don’t put it on display.”
So I think the fact that Sol hee gonna belive in him gonna heal at least a part of his heart as nobody really trusted him not killing that girl. Beside him gonna teach Sol hee some lesson about her ability like the couple in ep 3 where the boyfriend lied, but then we see that he planed to propose to his girlfriend. Like lies is more complex in humans mind than what a lie detector could understand.
I’m ready to hand-wave the blood and glass also. And sometimes, when you’re in a really traumatic moment or reliving trauma, it’s not unheard of for things to seem warped and different to what it is/was in reality. So I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s also another way that some of the elements in the flashbacks – such as the blood and glass – are explained. I like your hypothetical scenario though, it sounds logical and also, it’d mean the parallel with Sha-on at the end there was intended as a direct mirror to what actually happened back then.
So, there I was, minding my own nevermind looking for something to watch as I mindlessly rub lotion on my burns for the next hour and I see Witch\’s Romance and I\’m immediately like…whaaaa? And it turns out my cable package has a channel called AsianCrush. So I clicked on it because obviously the universe wants me to watch that again but what\’s on its place? Some Sageuk that I can\’t find the name of, with actors I don\’t recognize, that\’s DRAMATIC as all get out and I feel hoodwinked. I don\’t watch sageuks but who is this awful woman? Why is she taking this not awful woman\’s house and putting her and her kids out on the streets? Who is master Lee and why did he sell her house? And who is uncle who did (or possibly didnt?) get married? What the heck is this? Because I think I\’ve been drawn in against my will.
Also, in the 20 mins or so I\’ve been held hostage they\’ve shown 2 commercials for Boys Over Flowers. Jan-di and 2nd Lead share the most boring, basic, lip brushing kiss, and then they turn as one to see a distraught Lee Min Ho. And I\’m like yall are some Jenks but also do I need to watch Lee Min Hos Boys Over Flowers again? Because I feel like the answer is always no but the station doesn\’t want me to know that.
And some guy is getting crucified now? And some guy has a pet squirrel? But why, though?
Wait—it’s now a time travel/time jump situation? The not awful lady is now a taxi driver and fighting off a rapist and some SUPER hot guy knew to follow them to rescue her. Who is HE? Have I seen him in things before what is happening right now?!
What the heck?! There’s clearly some sort of marathon happening and they didn’t translate the title card! Oh, it’s called Resentments. Even the title is clearly not my bag
I have slingtv and they have all sorts of channels. Apparently one of them is Asiancrush and they were doing some sort of Sageuk marathon today, so, I guess?
I accidentally clicked on pg 18 of my comments. Suspicious Partners, Chicago Typewriter, and, Fight for My Way all seemed to be playing at once. What a great time to watch dramas. I can\’t even remember the last time I was watching that many currently airing dramas at once. I miss watching like that:(
I\’ve started Hidden Love. I get that Sang Zhi has love at first sight Jiaxu but I wish they would stop doing flashbacks to when she was 14 and looked 9. I\’m assuming he doesn\’t start liking her in a romantic sense until their both in adulthood but I\’ve watched one too many docs with grown ass men grooming little girls to be comfortable with the constant flashbacks. Especially since I\’m assuming they\’ll use the same actor for when their both adults.
He’s buying her period supplies? Do I need to drop this? The 3rd ep is starting and she’s still a child. They’ve done enough back story and laying the foundation. He’s the beautiful friend and roommate of her older brother that she had love in first sight with. 4 years later they met again and he saw she grew into a beautiful young woman who He’s happy to see again. Can they just be adults on an equal playing field now?
I think I’m dropping this. I’m half way through ep 3 and instead of them being adults and equals he’s lecturing her on not dating (saving her for himself?) and lecturing her on the proper way to reject a boy. How much older than her is he supposed to be? It doesn’t matter this just feels ick. Is anyone else watching thus? Is it worth continuing?
You might get a fair bit of pushback for your views, I know I did. But since this has been discussed several times on DB, perhaps not. Anyway, know you are very much in the minority, but also that you are not alone.
It was the later representation of a rather infantile adult female that troubled me more in Hidden Love, but certainly the pairing of a 10-year-old actress (real age) with a mid-20s male actor was a huge mistake. No shade on the young actress, she was good. In fact she was more mature and spunky than the adult FL. But certain filming and acting decisions lent a rather flirtatious tone to their interaction that definitely sent the wrong message.
I found out recently that my tween niece watched it (alongside her older sister). She was very clear the adult ML loved the little girl all along, and was just waiting for her. It was *so* romantic for her. What followed was a long discussion on why this is a problem and why she needs to inform the adults in her life if a grown man shows interest in her. I tell you though, no matter what me and my sister say, she is far more influenced by TV. It’s really troubling.
Oh thank you. I am DROPPING this. Its clearly showing grooming patterns and making little girls think this nonsense is romantic and acceptable.
I will HAPPILY be on the minority in this one.
The little girl actress did a great job but 3 eps in and it looks like this drama is fully pushing a romance between a child and an adult like its a good thing. And it’s not. Which shouldn’t need to be said but clearly needs to be.
I was trolled in my last interaction on DB regarding HL so I may delete the personal story. But I think it matters to understand why some of us are uncomfortable with Hidden Love’s message to children, even if unintentional. I know they intended to show a sweet one-sided crush btwn a 14 and 17-year-old, but it was big fail in execution.
Anyway, good decision to drop. I watched much further along and was really disappointed with their message about women’s agency. But again, this was also a minority view and you may feel differently.
but when did he show his romantic interest in her.. he does not develop those feelings until she saves him from the crazy girl.. so it wasn’t even that she is adult and let me like him
Teenagers or young kids…u can show them whatever, their conclusion will always be awestuck.. good looking pair getting together..
both book and drama actually did a good job of not sending wrong message, but people forget that both are from FL’s perspective and not from ML’s perspective. FL, like a person is crush will overinterpret everything, will find anything about her crush romantic..its natural reaction
I don’t think I was watching from anyone but a viewers perspective, though. I wasn’t watching thinking oh how cute she’s got the feels for him. I was always watching thinking this actress looks 9 years old. Why did they choose someone who looks so young to play a 14 year old if not to play up and really emphasize the fact that she is a child. If the drama stopped the flashbacks then and allowed the drama to move on to when they are both adults and let her blossoming crush be something in the past I would have no problem continuing but they don’t. I made it to the end I think) of ep 3 and she’s still a little girl, they are still spending a lot of time with an actress who is 10 years old who is supposed to be 14 and looks 9 and playing off this is where the romance started. Maybe it’s because I’ve watched a lot of child predator docs but I don’t see a cute romance. I see a man who looks a decade older than our FL grooming her and deliberately trying to keep her for himself starting when she’s a child. And it’s like the drama wants me to see them this way otherwise why do they keep dragging put the scenes when she’s so young? Why not leave the 9 year old behind and focus on when she’s 16/17 and has a crush still. It still had an element of ick if he looks at her then and takes note that she’s gorgeous and may rtey to pursue her in a few years when she’s an adult. But they include a scene where he’s teaching her how to reject a boy and REEKS of grooming. I’m going to teach you how to kindly reject boys your own age because you’re supposed to be with me! . It would have been ick if they ended it there allowed her to grow up but the next episode she’s STILL A CHILD and there’s literally no reason from a storytelling point of view for why this is happening except to once again emphasize that SHES A CHILD and he’s an adult. And in this scenario he’s not only an adult to her still a child he’s been hired to BE the adult in a class setting. When she hurts herself it’s him who runs to her side and piggybacks her (a precursor to romance in *how* many dramas?) to safety.
No, typing it out like this this drama is 1000% a no from me. If you don’t see the grooming patterns in very happy for you and I hope you enjoy the show but I am sincerely grossed out and declare myself SUPER done.
It isn’t about demeaning a particular perspective. All kinds of stories exist, and this story is telling the narrative from the FL’s perspective. it is what it is.
If you or anyone else wants to view it from another perspective, then correctly identify what part of the perspective is because of the difference in your viewer/or any other character’s point of view Vs FL’s point of view.
FL is smitten, so we see the ML all shiny and with lighting … but was the ML even remotely improper..No, not at all. Neither in his intentions and nor in his behavior.
The behavior that FL shows is not real. No, it is quite true specially with teenagers and when you have your first crush. As she grows she also changes. Her behavior with other men, with ML. Drama is also very clear about when ML fell for her, and it is very clearly visible even to audience that in that moment she is no juvenile kid but a very fiercely protective woman who is quite mature in considering different people and their motivations
I’m clear on the perspective the drama would like me to see the drama through. I’m glad you enjoyed it and could enjoy the drama in the way the director/production team intended. That’s not how I see it. I see clear grooming. I see predatory behavior and it grosses me out and I’m not going to watch the drama.
We’re all entitled to our own views. I asked for opinions and then watched a bit more and came to my.own conclusion. Shrug. It’s not a big deal. In real life no children were harmed and it looks like it inspired some real conversation between adults and kids on what predatory behavior in an adult looks like and that’s good. So. I see nothing but positives here.
I didn’t specially like Hidden Love. For me, it was clear that the ML didn’t have feelings for her when she was young. But when he fell in love for her after wasn’t really clear. She was kinda a little princess for everybody and her cuteness was too strong for me :p
You should try When I Fly Towards You. It was really a cute drama with a well balanced couple!
I started that one yesterday well and I think I’m just not in the mood for kids. I was Ike oh, yall are cute the whole time (I think I watched 2 or 3 eps? They were at military camp) but I just couldn’t handle the high schooly, squeey, gigglyness of the fl and walked away. I won’t say dropped I think I’ll pick it up again when I’m in a less meh mood.
The first of which, being, ML (I don’t remember his name right now), pretends that he doesn’t know what happened the day his father died. But he was in an intense argument with his mother. Wouldn’t she have heard the accident? Does she know that he heard the accident?
She probably knows that they had an accident while they were on a call. But she doesn’t know that Tian Yu is faking his amnesia. According to the family he doesn’t remember anything from the day of the accident.
OK, but she obviously knows he was in the car and if he could remember that day would know about the fight. I feel better about that now. On to the drama!
Anni should feel embarrassed. I’m embarrassed for her. Girl. He. Don’t. Want. You. But who didn’t see it coming? The second she learned XinXing lived in the same house as Zhaozun it was only a matter of time before she’d find a way to move in to. Pathetic girl.
How in the heck did this drama make me ship Tianyou and XinXing ? Zhaoxun is right there looking all perfect and whatnot and while I sure as shooting don’t want him with Anni but now I can’t ship him with Xinxing. Also, I do not understand how whatsherface thinks that the best way to win Tianyu is to ruin the cake he’s worked so hard on.
Also, that boy has some *nice* hands. I see you, sir.
I LOVE that Ruoyon is such an incompetent villain. Every single thing she does backfires. She has taken on this whole LOVE ME OR I WILL PUNISH YOU persona with Tianyu and he hasn’t even noticed!
Oh, wow, I really dropped an \”I set myself on fire\” post and then just didn\’t update.
So, July 6/7 (I don\’t remember which) I was at home and tired and lit a candle and turned on a fan planning on laying down and taking a nap. There was a fly and I reached to kill it. I reached right over the candle. My dress caught fire. I ma aged to get into the bathroom and into the shower and put the fire out but I wound up with 2nd and 3rd degree burns on 13% of my body (including my face and hair). I made it home a few days ago after over 20 days in the hospital. I had a couple of skin grafts–the donor site (my right leg) hurts so much more than my burns. Egads came to visit me several times. I still have some healing to do and am working on building up my stamina. I can barely walk 2 blocks these days. I\’ll learn tomorrow when I can go back to work. But I think that\’s probably a ways off still. So, if anyone wants to drop me a link to the discord channel I have TONS of time and very little to fill it. I\’m finally getting caught up on dramas. I signed in to rant about The Way You Shine and realized I hadn\’t updated at all. So, now that that\’s finished I\’m going to open a new thread so I can rant.
Slowly but surely hobbling along! But yes, I’m doing better every day. I didn’t even have to take *any* pain pills today. Last week I was on like 5 different ones, today, zip.
It was scary, but I’m here and healing and there are dramas to watch. It’s insane how so much more aware I am of how frequently fires are used in TV shows as a source of comedy and I’m like….NOT FUNNY YALL!
That I did almost die was the hardest thing to accept and realize that I wasn’t exaggerating to add some drama and flair to the story. There was a moment–if you’ve seen the mirror mirror on the wall with the green flames and the evil queen? There was a moment where I was trying to get the shower turned on and the flames whooshed up and I was in that scene and if I hadn’t fallen and tripped into the bathtub right at that moment I would have died. And it’s hard to acknowledge and say, so yeah, I’m glad I’m still alive too. There’s some internal healing I need to work on as well. It was scary and nightmares are real.
I hear you, it sounds awful and traumatic and it’s not surprising that there’s mental/emotional injury, too. I hope you can go easy on yourself and get lots of support. Fighting!
It’s so good to hear (read) from you, Isa!! Egads told some of us on Discord about her visit with you 🥹🥹 Thought it will be a journey of recovery up ahead, I’m so glad you’re on the mend!! 💕💕
Here is the link to the Discord server: https://discord.gg/cuUTbyqU
So glad I found this post, I was wondering how you were doing and if you were still in hospital. It sounds horrific so thank God you survived to tell the tale. I am praying for a full recovery and it’s good to hear you are now pain free.
I agree a lot of things, like fire, car accidents and suicide are shown in dramas and then repeatedly randomly flashed up on the screen throughout several episodes without a second thought of how this might be retraumatising people who have been in those kinds of incidents. Even if you have never directly experienced them we can get vicarious trauma through the repeated exposure. I hope you can find some safe to watch dramas so you are not be effected especially during this healing phase. Take care of yourself.
holy moly
it IS going to be slow, I mean. My granny had skin transplant well you are younger but it is the same, the donor spot will be troublesome and might be better not to get it wet too often. skin is a whole organ after all and it is not meant to be patchwork.
if you have something made of silver like a spoon, try only wash the spot with the water where you keep the spoon a few days. there are probably some things in the pharmacy with silver in them
feel better soon
Dear Isa, thank you very much for letting us know how you’re doing, and I’m really glad to hear that you’re healing. I hope you continue to get better, and that many good things both big and small come your way whilst you recover. Enjoy the drama-watching time – I shall look forward to your wall posts!😊
Oh dear Isa,
Thanks for keeping us updated!!! So glad you were able to get to the shower as fast as you could. But burns are hard to recover from. Especially when it is so hot where you live!
Thank goodness it doesn’t take a huge amount of energy to watch dramas. I’ll check in on Discord as well.
take good care. (((((HUGS)))))
I’m so glad to hear you’re doing better. I know healing is a slow process, and can be frustrating, but I’m so glad you’re okay. Hopefully you’ll get some good drama watching time in and will heal up stronger than ever. Sending lots of healing vibes your way.
Holy F*ck! Thankfully, you thought fast. How do your days look like? Is it even comfortable enough for you to sit down or lie down to sleep? With your body working hard on healing, it must be exhausting! Sending all sorts of good vibes your way.
As for the rants… Please do rant away about dramas and about anything else. We’ll read, laugh, and cry with you.
Oh my gosh Isa! How you made the initial post sound so light with just a burned hand, when in fact, you even needed skin grafts is beyond me. I hope you’re recovering well and is getting all the support you need! Do take care, stay away from lighted candles and enjoy your dramas 🫶🏼
Beanies. I always talk about how alone I am. But. Today I feel surrounded by people who care about me. On Thursday I accidentally set myself on fire (there\’s a whole story there, I just don\’t have the energy to type it out. My hands are burned) and people have come out of the woodwork to check in on me. Some have even put their money where their mouths are and donated to my venmo. family I haven\’t spoken to in years are taking about coming to see me. It\’s nuts. I wanted to pop in and say I\’ll probably go I\’m active again while I\’m healing up. But I\’ll miss chatting with yall. I was watching 2! currently airing dramas.
oh my, I hope it heals? yikes. you could use voice to text though it sometimes has weird results. I made the experience of setting the language to english but spoke estonian, that was hilarious stuff.
glad that you are not alone at this time
So happy to hear that despite experiencing a terrible event you have found some joy and love. Praying for a speedy healing process and that you are pain free soon. Take care.
My lovely Isa, always glad to get verification that you are still alive and kicking, especially when you have positive things to share!❤️ I am not eloquent enough to offer comforting replies to your posts, but please keep in mind that I hear (read) you always and am sending you good vibes nonstop!❤️
Oh my goodness, how scary! I’m glad you’re still here to type about it! I hope your recovery is quick and complete. Please let us know how you’re doing, but only if and when you feel up to it.
KTL is full of high ridiculousness and cringe. Lands, so much cringe. But, I don\’t care. I want to be in FLs (I have no idea what her name is) squad. The way they slid the table aside and the mic and light ball were already there. The props. The pizza! The chicken! I don\’t even know what a dang pork trotter IS but I am HERE FOR IT. Let me in your gal gang. My life is terrible and yall look fun. I am willing to relocate to be part of the gal gang.
I do not have the words to express how much I utterly DESPISE Xin Xings ex and his horrible family. Also, the woman just had an abortion. Why does her friend think NOW is the time to gush about boys? She was literally plagued by nightmares about the decision she made. Sure, now is a great time to get back on that horse.
I’ve hated the ex’s mom since minute one but good night Xin Xings mom is certainly doing the work to get on the list this episode. What an awful, selfish, hosebeast of a woman. Forgetting the awful ex and his awful family but maybe just maybe keeping that baby would have been in the realm of the possible if Xin Xing didn’t have to raise her mother as well. Grow. Up.
And as badly as I feel for Xin Xing (this drama feels like tragedy p0n at this point) I’m super sick of Xin Xing taking her problems out on ML (who’s name I’ve forgotten). Yeah. He’s a highly ridiculous man child but he’s breaking his back trying to help her and make her laugh and feel better and he so doesn’t deserve her bitching him out every 3 minutes. Is it possible that she’s having such a hard time because she sucks as a person?
What on earth is the deal with the national mom on KTL? Is she supposed to show us how entitled the rich are? Is she comic relief? Can she comically fall of a cliff or gdiaf?
I\’m not sure if I\’m going to make it with KTL. I don\’t love work-based dramas to begin with (restaurants being the exception)–I go to work already. It\’s hard there. I watch dramas to take me away from all of that. Now that the FL is \”at war\” at work and the evil woman stomping around firing people has made her presence felt I\’m not sure I can do it.
I keep meaning to give you two youth book titles. The audio books are very well done and they both have at least one wise and humorous girl. Three Times Lucky by Sheila Turnage (funny with a quirky southern small town setting) and The Midnight Children by Dan Gemeinhart (dark humor).
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 13, 2023 at 6:29 PM
It seems like every woman in this drama (except for Xinxing and her friend) is evil, stupid, weak, or a combination. I was slowly won of by Xinxings mom and Anni is tolerable as long as she’s NOWHERE near Zhaoxun. I feel like they are trying to do the same to Tianyus mom. To that I say: no way Jose. But then they somehow made me ship Xinxing and Tianyu.
I’ve always thought that about Zhaoxun and Xinxing from Xinxings point of view. I never thought about how guilty he must feel. Her father’s decision wasn’t Zhaoxuns fault but he’d clearly feel guilty about it. I wonder if he’ll learn that her father visited Yucheng group before his drowning? I hope it lessens the guilt he feels. I can’t ship him with Xinxing (she and Tianyu are just too adorable). But I really hope Zhaoxun gets a happy ending.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 13, 2023 at 7:41 PM
I do think for the most part all of these moms think they are doing what’s best for their kids. Maybe.
Elinor Lies
September 17, 2023 at 11:15 AM
Hi! Haven’t seen you for a bit. How are you doing? No worries if you don’t feel up to responding, but I’m thinking of you.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 12, 2023 at 2:20 PM
Just got a letter from my insurance saying that they aren’t covering *any* of my hospital stay because they deemed it was “medically unnecessary “. Tell that to the 13% of my body coveted in burns and grafts and tell that ro my donor site that goes from the top of my thigh to the top of my knee and almost all the way around. And hurts All. The. Time.
Clearly I’m going to fight it. But right now I’m just going to be pissed.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 12, 2023 at 4:26 PM
UGH. Be pissed. I’m pissed for you. Insurance in this country is a joke. It’s such nonsense that you have to go through all this and then spend your energy fighting them on top of it.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 13, 2023 at 6:09 PM
It’s apparently going to be a relatively easy thing to fix. But dang, son, I’m already stressed. Thank you. For adding to it. Zetus Lapetus
SnarkyJellyfish
August 14, 2023 at 12:51 PM
I’m so glad to hear it’ll be an easy fix. It’s still stupid they even stressed you out like that to begin with, though.
Katrina
August 13, 2023 at 10:18 PM
I’m so sorry you have to deal with the added aggravation on top of the pain, I hope you can get it sorted out and focus on healing soon. I just popped over here fo the 1st time in awhile sorry about your accident.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 11, 2023 at 4:47 PM
Bromance ep 9 taking a break from my drama to focus on some fictional drama with some top notch skinship.
I absolutely hate the woman that ZiFengs amnesiac father has been living with for the past 7 years. She’s like whelp. Old guy says he doesn’t recognize you. That must be that. And then when she finally admits that her dad fished him out of the sea she’s like…well! We took him to the hospital that one time and he didn’t like it! I thought it was finders keepers losers weepers when it came to old people you find in the sea!
Girl. Go away.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 11, 2023 at 4:55 PM
Also it’s weird as he’ll that the vet met Pi Yanou once when they were kids and 20 years later presents himself as a love interest talking about I’ve been waiting. They didn’t even meet! He overheard a conversation between two little girls and based his ENTIRE life on it? Maaaaaaaan. Get right tf on outta here
beffels
August 11, 2023 at 10:13 PM
All vets in dramas are demented. Seems on brand to me 😅
john
August 11, 2023 at 6:00 PM
amnesiac ?
*Ahem* , what I have learned from dramas regarding amnesia.
A good smack to the head can cure it !
Cooking a certain food also restores memories.
( h/t Good Bad Mom 🐷 & J drama First Love: Hatsukoi ✈️)
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 11, 2023 at 6:16 PM
Well, we’ve now introduced the favorite secret food of the father and son. His memory should be restored any second now.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 11, 2023 at 6:22 PM
I love how ALL of their friends are so invested in Pi Yanou and ZiFeng getting together. They just had their first (awkward) kiss and their two best friends not only snapped sneaky pics of the event but sent the pics immediately to ZiFeng and Pi Yanou. Adorable.
Now why are they trying to ruin my awkward first kiss high with stupid gangster stuff? It’s as badly written as boring ass cancer girl but occasionally they have fight scenes. I am such a sucker for a fight scene.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 11, 2023 at 10:11 AM
It is 12:06pm right now where I am. Twice so far today I’ve been asked how I was doing. Frfr. So I told them. I told them about the pain, the house (to move or not to move), my credit score drastically dropping making moving a near impossibility, my neighbor growing drugs in our shared back yard, my car, work and probably a few other things that I’m blanking on right now.
Both people were shocked into an uncomfortable silence at the sheer amount of nonsense my life is right now.
Them: did talking about it at least help?
Me: my jaw hurts now. I talked too much.
It’s interactions like those that remind me that I’m actually going through a lot right now. I forget sometimes.
Mani-chan
August 11, 2023 at 10:36 AM
Your neighbour is growing weed in the backyard? Idk if that is just common there or i am shocked because of the different attitude towards drugs in my country. Also, sometimes it helps verbalise how much you are going through, just to come to terms with the fact that the exhaustion you feel dealing with so many things is not just mood swings or things in your head
bebeswtz❣️
August 11, 2023 at 11:16 AM
*hugs*
I hope verbalizing it will help to make you feel better even if it doesn’t tangibly make the actual situation improve. At the same time, I personally find that when I’ve reached a place wherein I’m able to verbalized something means that I have internalized it to a degree, which helps peace of mind, and protecting my peace is a lot of times the first step in helping with a tangible and practical solution to things ♥️ You got this, Isa!!!
Cecee
August 11, 2023 at 12:55 PM
I appreciate it doesn’t solve any of the problems but i’m sending virtual hugs. Those won’t hurt you.
I join everyone else in saying that being able to verbalise it is already moving forward mentally. You’ve got this. Throw your thoughts at us. Tell us when you need cheering up. Tell us when you need a laugh. Tell us when you need a friendly ear. There are dozens of Internet friends here who have never met you but have been thinking about you and wishing you the best since you’ve told us about your fire accident. 🤞
lapislazulii
August 12, 2023 at 4:49 AM
Like others have said, I’m sad I can’t do much more and I know it doesn’t actually do much but I’m so sorry to hear you’re going through so much (like holy shit just one of those things would be a lot) – I’m sending you lots of virtual hugs, love and warm, positive, ‘fighting’ energy to get well soon and get back on track at your own pace eventually. Like others have also said, being able to talk about it out loud with someone – in person or virtually – is often cathartic and a big move in and of itself, so I hope you continue to do so if/when you feel like it! You’ve got this!! 🥰 ❤️
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 10, 2023 at 8:05 PM
Bromance
I *love* Qing Yangs relationship with ZiFeng.
ZiFeng: do me a favor. Don’t ask any questions just say yes.
Qing Yang (no hesitations or questions): yes
Zi Feng hops up and around the counter steadily encroaching on Qing Yangs personal space. He gets so close that their noses are touching
Qing Yang (not moving back): and what are you doing?
Zi Feng: testing to see if I like men
Qing Yang:….and your answer?
Zi Feng: well, I don’t like you.
Zi Feng moves back to his side of the counter. Qing Yang knowing that this has to do with his best friend falling in love with Pi Yanou just nods and pours him a shot.
Goodness this character is wasted on the ever-useless cancer girl. I will ship him with the badges fairy forever. I mean lookit, he has no family and she loves all of her family fiercely. Look at how determined she is to hook Pi Yanou up with Zi Feng! He’d sit back and be quietly amused at all of her antics, get pulled into antics. Basically have antics. Antics everywhere for everyone! It’s possible I overused antics at the end there. But that’s the strength of my ship. That made sense. Yeah. Go with that.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 10, 2023 at 8:28 PM
This drama is so ridiculous.
Random pregnant lady: I’m sorry my belly hurts a bit
RPLF: OH MY GOSH ARE YOU HAVING THE BABY NOW?!
ZiFeng: Yanou! Call security and have an ambulance waiting! This woman is giving birth!
Yanou: there’s no time! ZiFeng! You helped delivery a baby lamb once! This is TOTALLY the same!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 10, 2023 at 9:01 PM
Yall. I hate this misunderstanding so much. ZiFeng has made up his mind to confess his feelings. He’s asked Yanou out for dinner, he’s sitting at his desk and writing out his confession and what happens? Yanou accidentally calls him while she’s telling her stupid friend that while she supports gay love she’ll never feel that way about someone from the same sex.
Zifeng quietly balls up and throws away his confession. Later, same ep, Yanou accidentally blurts out that she likes ZiFeng. But ZiFeng is determined to protect his heart and says of course he likes Pi Yanou as well. Yanou is his best brother. The drama makes it up later by letting ZiFeng hear Yanou confess her love after they get together. But in the meantime everyone is sad. Or rather I’m sad. But our cute badass fairy is hear to cheer us up until the confession. Which is right around the corner.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 7:40 PM
This ost still has my heart in a chokehold. How many years has it been? I still want a prequel (with all the same actors I DONT CARE HOW OLD THEY ARE!) Saltnpaper where are you?! I need more!
Healer’s
August 9, 2023 at 3:12 AM
I still listen to this song until this day and sometimes sing it subconsciously when driving or cooking.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 9, 2023 at 7:02 AM
Saaaaaaame
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 3:19 PM
So, I\’m rewatching one of my ALL.TIME.FAVORITE dramas. It\’s also one of my least favorite dramas. Shrug.
Bromine.
If you haven\’t seen it, it\’s about a young woman who\’s parents have convinced her that she has to become a boy until her 26th birthday. They went to a shaman when mom was pregnant. If she had a boy the baby would have magnificent luck. But if it\’s a girl—horrible luck until the daughter turns 26.
So a few months before her 26th birthday she meets and falls in love with a gang leader. If you\’re thinking \”oh no! Gangs!\” He\’s mostly obsessed with the amusement park he started with his dad. To the exclusion of everything except for the fact that he seems to be falling in love with his bodyguard. And who is his bodyguard? Our girl. The parts of the drama I hate? Zi Feng (our gang leader) has a best friend who is locked in a HORRIBLE plot line. When he\’s not with boring-ass Cancer girl he\’s a great part of the show. Boring-ass Cancer girl brings the entire drama to a screeching halt. She is one pf the worst actresses I have ever seen. She (and a highly ridiculous plot in general) is the reason this is one of my least favorite dramas. If she could just be lifted out the drama would be so much better. But that\’s what fast forward buttons are for.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 3:28 PM
I have fanwalled this drama at least 2 times before but I haven’t watched in a couple of years so there’s more to see and say!
I had forgotten the INTENSE starring. Oh my lands. Every few seconds were just going to eye bang each other. Awesome. And I had forgotten that the sister had a crush on Pi Yano for awhile. Also, it’s hilarious that Pi Yanous closest friend (with whom she’s fought and played around and wrestled with) doesn’t know she’s a woman. They make NO EFFORT to hide Megan’s breasts except to put her in a sweater under suit jacket.
Oh my lands Zi Feng is SOO good at looking pitiful when he wants his way. He is SO DRAMATIC!
How have I not watched this in an ongoing loop forever?
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 4:04 PM
How on earth did I forget earth did I forget the badass fairy? First ep and she manages an accidental kiss between the leads? And my gosh the chemistry between Megan and Baron? Good lord.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 8, 2023 at 3:44 PM
BROMANCE!
Man, I loved that drama but cancer girl was The WORST. Everything about that drama was ridiculous in the BEST possible way. Also, that chemistry was something else.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 7:36 PM
And this is why it’s one of my all time favorites and also one of my all time opposite of favorites. And also why I feel compelled to watch it like every year or two. Love and hate it!
SnarkyJellyfish
August 9, 2023 at 5:51 PM
That drama felt like they were just pulling tropes and plot points out of a hat. Mafia male lead? Sure. Amusement park? Why not. Cancer girl who serves no purpose whatsoever? Lets do it!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 3:48 PM
Oh, fortune teller not shaman and fie not bad luck. Either way. The parents are dumb
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 7:52 PM
I love that the twist (look away ifyou don’t want to be spoiled)
Òk. Conscious cleared. I love that the twist is that ZiFeng knows from pretty early on in the drama that Pi Yanou is a woman. Watching it again they have TONS of close calls where she’s in the shower and he walks in or she needs to change her shirt and he’s standing there watching. I mean bodies have curves. Just because she’s standing with her back to him doesn’t explain why he wouldn’t notice the curve of her breasts under her t-shirt as he’s staring INTENSELY at her. He does love to be in her space. And after those hormones finally wake up and she realizes she has feels for him…man!
PYC
August 9, 2023 at 6:47 AM
Haha, I was thinking this drama just a few weeks ago. The stares is everything!! Their chemistry is insane.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 2:46 PM
My Lovely Liar. Huh, I wouldn\’t have thought they would have clued her in to his murder mystery so soon. Also, I\’m not sure how I feel about her ex coming back and that he just happens to be a cop. I do think our leads have cute chemistry and I enjoyed them slowly growing closer. As for the bombshell at the end of the ep—they\’ve already shown that she speaks what she hears but she doesn\’t interpret what she hears so she\’s capable of being wrong. So him ringing her \”he\’s lying!\” bell brings up the question of does she read them as lying if they believe they are telling the truth? I\’m fully ready to handwave away the blood and the glass. Um Ji (and why is that the only name I know?) was determined to off herself. He dragged her in from the ocean she got a bottle or a piece of glass from somewhere and injured herself. I think after pulling her out of the drink he walked away intending to leave her there. She injurs herself and goes back into the ocean. He starts to feel guilty for leaving her and turns around to go back for her but all he finds is the bloody shoes and glass. She\’s injured, bloody, and now in the water. He blames himself (he believes he killed her so the lie detector goes off) because if he hadn\’t have left for even those few minutes then she would still be alive.
The real question is how are they going to have a romance when he\’s carrying the weight of the death of a woman on his back. Boy get you to therapy!
sal
August 8, 2023 at 4:31 PM
Based on what script writer said herself the main point of the romance is the zero lie relationship between them; “I wanted to share the message of love in the form of understanding and trusting [one’s partner’s] heart even when they don’t put it on display.”
So I think the fact that Sol hee gonna belive in him gonna heal at least a part of his heart as nobody really trusted him not killing that girl. Beside him gonna teach Sol hee some lesson about her ability like the couple in ep 3 where the boyfriend lied, but then we see that he planed to propose to his girlfriend. Like lies is more complex in humans mind than what a lie detector could understand.
lapislazulii
August 12, 2023 at 4:53 AM
I’m ready to hand-wave the blood and glass also. And sometimes, when you’re in a really traumatic moment or reliving trauma, it’s not unheard of for things to seem warped and different to what it is/was in reality. So I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s also another way that some of the elements in the flashbacks – such as the blood and glass – are explained. I like your hypothetical scenario though, it sounds logical and also, it’d mean the parallel with Sha-on at the end there was intended as a direct mirror to what actually happened back then.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 7:47 AM
So, there I was, minding my own nevermind looking for something to watch as I mindlessly rub lotion on my burns for the next hour and I see Witch\’s Romance and I\’m immediately like…whaaaa? And it turns out my cable package has a channel called AsianCrush. So I clicked on it because obviously the universe wants me to watch that again but what\’s on its place? Some Sageuk that I can\’t find the name of, with actors I don\’t recognize, that\’s DRAMATIC as all get out and I feel hoodwinked. I don\’t watch sageuks but who is this awful woman? Why is she taking this not awful woman\’s house and putting her and her kids out on the streets? Who is master Lee and why did he sell her house? And who is uncle who did (or possibly didnt?) get married? What the heck is this? Because I think I\’ve been drawn in against my will.
Also, in the 20 mins or so I\’ve been held hostage they\’ve shown 2 commercials for Boys Over Flowers. Jan-di and 2nd Lead share the most boring, basic, lip brushing kiss, and then they turn as one to see a distraught Lee Min Ho. And I\’m like yall are some Jenks but also do I need to watch Lee Min Hos Boys Over Flowers again? Because I feel like the answer is always no but the station doesn\’t want me to know that.
And some guy is getting crucified now? And some guy has a pet squirrel? But why, though?
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 8:08 AM
Wait—it’s now a time travel/time jump situation? The not awful lady is now a taxi driver and fighting off a rapist and some SUPER hot guy knew to follow them to rescue her. Who is HE? Have I seen him in things before what is happening right now?!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 8:31 AM
What the heck?! There’s clearly some sort of marathon happening and they didn’t translate the title card! Oh, it’s called Resentments. Even the title is clearly not my bag
Cecee
August 8, 2023 at 9:32 AM
Wait, there is a channel with K drama and Sageuk?!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 8, 2023 at 2:37 PM
I have slingtv and they have all sorts of channels. Apparently one of them is Asiancrush and they were doing some sort of Sageuk marathon today, so, I guess?
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 7, 2023 at 12:49 PM
I accidentally clicked on pg 18 of my comments. Suspicious Partners, Chicago Typewriter, and, Fight for My Way all seemed to be playing at once. What a great time to watch dramas. I can\’t even remember the last time I was watching that many currently airing dramas at once. I miss watching like that:(
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 3, 2023 at 5:58 PM
I\’ve started Hidden Love. I get that Sang Zhi has love at first sight Jiaxu but I wish they would stop doing flashbacks to when she was 14 and looked 9. I\’m assuming he doesn\’t start liking her in a romantic sense until their both in adulthood but I\’ve watched one too many docs with grown ass men grooming little girls to be comfortable with the constant flashbacks. Especially since I\’m assuming they\’ll use the same actor for when their both adults.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 3, 2023 at 6:35 PM
He’s buying her period supplies? Do I need to drop this? The 3rd ep is starting and she’s still a child. They’ve done enough back story and laying the foundation. He’s the beautiful friend and roommate of her older brother that she had love in first sight with. 4 years later they met again and he saw she grew into a beautiful young woman who He’s happy to see again. Can they just be adults on an equal playing field now?
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 3, 2023 at 7:00 PM
I think I’m dropping this. I’m half way through ep 3 and instead of them being adults and equals he’s lecturing her on not dating (saving her for himself?) and lecturing her on the proper way to reject a boy. How much older than her is he supposed to be? It doesn’t matter this just feels ick. Is anyone else watching thus? Is it worth continuing?
indyfan
August 3, 2023 at 9:55 PM
You might get a fair bit of pushback for your views, I know I did. But since this has been discussed several times on DB, perhaps not. Anyway, know you are very much in the minority, but also that you are not alone.
It was the later representation of a rather infantile adult female that troubled me more in Hidden Love, but certainly the pairing of a 10-year-old actress (real age) with a mid-20s male actor was a huge mistake. No shade on the young actress, she was good. In fact she was more mature and spunky than the adult FL. But certain filming and acting decisions lent a rather flirtatious tone to their interaction that definitely sent the wrong message.
I found out recently that my tween niece watched it (alongside her older sister). She was very clear the adult ML loved the little girl all along, and was just waiting for her. It was *so* romantic for her. What followed was a long discussion on why this is a problem and why she needs to inform the adults in her life if a grown man shows interest in her. I tell you though, no matter what me and my sister say, she is far more influenced by TV. It’s really troubling.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 3, 2023 at 10:04 PM
Oh thank you. I am DROPPING this. Its clearly showing grooming patterns and making little girls think this nonsense is romantic and acceptable.
I will HAPPILY be on the minority in this one.
The little girl actress did a great job but 3 eps in and it looks like this drama is fully pushing a romance between a child and an adult like its a good thing. And it’s not. Which shouldn’t need to be said but clearly needs to be.
indyfan
August 3, 2023 at 10:29 PM
I was trolled in my last interaction on DB regarding HL so I may delete the personal story. But I think it matters to understand why some of us are uncomfortable with Hidden Love’s message to children, even if unintentional. I know they intended to show a sweet one-sided crush btwn a 14 and 17-year-old, but it was big fail in execution.
Anyway, good decision to drop. I watched much further along and was really disappointed with their message about women’s agency. But again, this was also a minority view and you may feel differently.
alasecond
August 4, 2023 at 7:04 PM
but when did he show his romantic interest in her.. he does not develop those feelings until she saves him from the crazy girl.. so it wasn’t even that she is adult and let me like him
Teenagers or young kids…u can show them whatever, their conclusion will always be awestuck.. good looking pair getting together..
both book and drama actually did a good job of not sending wrong message, but people forget that both are from FL’s perspective and not from ML’s perspective. FL, like a person is crush will overinterpret everything, will find anything about her crush romantic..its natural reaction
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 5, 2023 at 6:22 AM
I don’t think I was watching from anyone but a viewers perspective, though. I wasn’t watching thinking oh how cute she’s got the feels for him. I was always watching thinking this actress looks 9 years old. Why did they choose someone who looks so young to play a 14 year old if not to play up and really emphasize the fact that she is a child. If the drama stopped the flashbacks then and allowed the drama to move on to when they are both adults and let her blossoming crush be something in the past I would have no problem continuing but they don’t. I made it to the end I think) of ep 3 and she’s still a little girl, they are still spending a lot of time with an actress who is 10 years old who is supposed to be 14 and looks 9 and playing off this is where the romance started. Maybe it’s because I’ve watched a lot of child predator docs but I don’t see a cute romance. I see a man who looks a decade older than our FL grooming her and deliberately trying to keep her for himself starting when she’s a child. And it’s like the drama wants me to see them this way otherwise why do they keep dragging put the scenes when she’s so young? Why not leave the 9 year old behind and focus on when she’s 16/17 and has a crush still. It still had an element of ick if he looks at her then and takes note that she’s gorgeous and may rtey to pursue her in a few years when she’s an adult. But they include a scene where he’s teaching her how to reject a boy and REEKS of grooming. I’m going to teach you how to kindly reject boys your own age because you’re supposed to be with me! . It would have been ick if they ended it there allowed her to grow up but the next episode she’s STILL A CHILD and there’s literally no reason from a storytelling point of view for why this is happening except to once again emphasize that SHES A CHILD and he’s an adult. And in this scenario he’s not only an adult to her still a child he’s been hired to BE the adult in a class setting. When she hurts herself it’s him who runs to her side and piggybacks her (a precursor to romance in *how* many dramas?) to safety.
No, typing it out like this this drama is 1000% a no from me. If you don’t see the grooming patterns in very happy for you and I hope you enjoy the show but I am sincerely grossed out and declare myself SUPER done.
alasecond
August 5, 2023 at 9:11 AM
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alasecond
August 5, 2023 at 9:16 AM
It isn’t about demeaning a particular perspective. All kinds of stories exist, and this story is telling the narrative from the FL’s perspective. it is what it is.
If you or anyone else wants to view it from another perspective, then correctly identify what part of the perspective is because of the difference in your viewer/or any other character’s point of view Vs FL’s point of view.
FL is smitten, so we see the ML all shiny and with lighting … but was the ML even remotely improper..No, not at all. Neither in his intentions and nor in his behavior.
The behavior that FL shows is not real. No, it is quite true specially with teenagers and when you have your first crush. As she grows she also changes. Her behavior with other men, with ML. Drama is also very clear about when ML fell for her, and it is very clearly visible even to audience that in that moment she is no juvenile kid but a very fiercely protective woman who is quite mature in considering different people and their motivations
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 5, 2023 at 10:59 AM
I’m clear on the perspective the drama would like me to see the drama through. I’m glad you enjoyed it and could enjoy the drama in the way the director/production team intended. That’s not how I see it. I see clear grooming. I see predatory behavior and it grosses me out and I’m not going to watch the drama.
We’re all entitled to our own views. I asked for opinions and then watched a bit more and came to my.own conclusion. Shrug. It’s not a big deal. In real life no children were harmed and it looks like it inspired some real conversation between adults and kids on what predatory behavior in an adult looks like and that’s good. So. I see nothing but positives here.
mmmmm
August 3, 2023 at 10:54 PM
I felt weird watching the first ep for some reason, so I dropped it. At least for now.
Kurama
August 4, 2023 at 12:59 AM
I didn’t specially like Hidden Love. For me, it was clear that the ML didn’t have feelings for her when she was young. But when he fell in love for her after wasn’t really clear. She was kinda a little princess for everybody and her cuteness was too strong for me :p
You should try When I Fly Towards You. It was really a cute drama with a well balanced couple!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 4, 2023 at 7:11 AM
I started that one yesterday well and I think I’m just not in the mood for kids. I was Ike oh, yall are cute the whole time (I think I watched 2 or 3 eps? They were at military camp) but I just couldn’t handle the high schooly, squeey, gigglyness of the fl and walked away. I won’t say dropped I think I’ll pick it up again when I’m in a less meh mood.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 2:35 PM
I am on ep 9 of The Way You Shine and I have THOUGHTS.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 2:37 PM
The first of which, being, ML (I don’t remember his name right now), pretends that he doesn’t know what happened the day his father died. But he was in an intense argument with his mother. Wouldn’t she have heard the accident? Does she know that he heard the accident?
Blue (@mayhemf)
August 2, 2023 at 4:28 PM
Tian Yu!!!
She probably knows that they had an accident while they were on a call. But she doesn’t know that Tian Yu is faking his amnesia. According to the family he doesn’t remember anything from the day of the accident.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 4:40 PM
OK, but she obviously knows he was in the car and if he could remember that day would know about the fight. I feel better about that now. On to the drama!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 5:55 PM
Anni should feel embarrassed. I’m embarrassed for her. Girl. He. Don’t. Want. You. But who didn’t see it coming? The second she learned XinXing lived in the same house as Zhaozun it was only a matter of time before she’d find a way to move in to. Pathetic girl.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 6:33 PM
How in the heck did this drama make me ship Tianyou and XinXing ? Zhaoxun is right there looking all perfect and whatnot and while I sure as shooting don’t want him with Anni but now I can’t ship him with Xinxing. Also, I do not understand how whatsherface thinks that the best way to win Tianyu is to ruin the cake he’s worked so hard on.
Also, that boy has some *nice* hands. I see you, sir.
Kurama
August 3, 2023 at 1:01 AM
The mother doesn’t know that he’s faking amnesia to protect her.
As a result, they didn’t really adress his trauma of the accident. He’s just taking meds.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 8:04 PM
I LOVE that Ruoyon is such an incompetent villain. Every single thing she does backfires. She has taken on this whole LOVE ME OR I WILL PUNISH YOU persona with Tianyu and he hasn’t even noticed!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 9:04 PM
That kiss though…get it, yall!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 2:32 PM
Oh, wow, I really dropped an \”I set myself on fire\” post and then just didn\’t update.
So, July 6/7 (I don\’t remember which) I was at home and tired and lit a candle and turned on a fan planning on laying down and taking a nap. There was a fly and I reached to kill it. I reached right over the candle. My dress caught fire. I ma aged to get into the bathroom and into the shower and put the fire out but I wound up with 2nd and 3rd degree burns on 13% of my body (including my face and hair). I made it home a few days ago after over 20 days in the hospital. I had a couple of skin grafts–the donor site (my right leg) hurts so much more than my burns. Egads came to visit me several times. I still have some healing to do and am working on building up my stamina. I can barely walk 2 blocks these days. I\’ll learn tomorrow when I can go back to work. But I think that\’s probably a ways off still. So, if anyone wants to drop me a link to the discord channel I have TONS of time and very little to fill it. I\’m finally getting caught up on dramas. I signed in to rant about The Way You Shine and realized I hadn\’t updated at all. So, now that that\’s finished I\’m going to open a new thread so I can rant.
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth
August 2, 2023 at 3:23 PM
Oh wow I’m glad you’re doing better and recovering!!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 4:38 PM
Slowly but surely hobbling along! But yes, I’m doing better every day. I didn’t even have to take *any* pain pills today. Last week I was on like 5 different ones, today, zip.
miso
August 2, 2023 at 3:30 PM
Oof that sounds scary. Glad you’re doing okay now. Hope you recover fully soon!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 4:36 PM
It was scary, but I’m here and healing and there are dramas to watch. It’s insane how so much more aware I am of how frequently fires are used in TV shows as a source of comedy and I’m like….NOT FUNNY YALL!
miso
August 2, 2023 at 5:50 PM
I can imagine how much worse it must feel to watch that now. At least the larger mass of dramas are still there for you! Get well soon!
john
August 2, 2023 at 4:01 PM
Ouch ! Hope you heal soon.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 4:35 PM
I’m working on it! I have a scar on my right forearm that looks like Dino from the Flintstones. So, I find small ways to stay amused.
Elinor Lies
August 2, 2023 at 4:05 PM
Oh my goodness, I’m so glad you’re alive! I hope you recover quickly – and find lots of fun shows to distract you while you do.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
August 2, 2023 at 4:34 PM
That I did almost die was the hardest thing to accept and realize that I wasn’t exaggerating to add some drama and flair to the story. There was a moment–if you’ve seen the mirror mirror on the wall with the green flames and the evil queen? There was a moment where I was trying to get the shower turned on and the flames whooshed up and I was in that scene and if I hadn’t fallen and tripped into the bathtub right at that moment I would have died. And it’s hard to acknowledge and say, so yeah, I’m glad I’m still alive too. There’s some internal healing I need to work on as well. It was scary and nightmares are real.
Elinor Lies
August 2, 2023 at 4:56 PM
I hear you, it sounds awful and traumatic and it’s not surprising that there’s mental/emotional injury, too. I hope you can go easy on yourself and get lots of support. Fighting!
bebeswtz❣️
August 2, 2023 at 5:48 PM
It’s so good to hear (read) from you, Isa!! Egads told some of us on Discord about her visit with you 🥹🥹 Thought it will be a journey of recovery up ahead, I’m so glad you’re on the mend!! 💕💕
Here is the link to the Discord server:
https://discord.gg/cuUTbyqU
bebeswtz❣️
August 2, 2023 at 6:20 PM
*Though
Cori
August 2, 2023 at 5:58 PM
Oh goodness! I’m glad you’re on the mend Isa and hope you’ll have a smooth and speedy recovery!
mugyuljoie is preciousss
August 2, 2023 at 10:32 PM
It’s such a relief to hear you’re home and thank you to @egads for checking in on you.
Reply1988 - Mother Bean (DB Wooga squad)
August 2, 2023 at 10:39 PM
So glad I found this post, I was wondering how you were doing and if you were still in hospital. It sounds horrific so thank God you survived to tell the tale. I am praying for a full recovery and it’s good to hear you are now pain free.
I agree a lot of things, like fire, car accidents and suicide are shown in dramas and then repeatedly randomly flashed up on the screen throughout several episodes without a second thought of how this might be retraumatising people who have been in those kinds of incidents. Even if you have never directly experienced them we can get vicarious trauma through the repeated exposure. I hope you can find some safe to watch dramas so you are not be effected especially during this healing phase. Take care of yourself.
korfan
August 3, 2023 at 12:34 AM
Good to hear from you and happy to know you’re on the mend. Wishing you a full recovery. Take care! 🙂
Kurama
August 3, 2023 at 1:07 AM
It looks like an awful accident!
I’m really happy you’re doing better. You were strong! Burns hurt so much.
I wish you a steady recovering.
redfox
August 3, 2023 at 2:14 AM
holy moly
it IS going to be slow, I mean. My granny had skin transplant well you are younger but it is the same, the donor spot will be troublesome and might be better not to get it wet too often. skin is a whole organ after all and it is not meant to be patchwork.
if you have something made of silver like a spoon, try only wash the spot with the water where you keep the spoon a few days. there are probably some things in the pharmacy with silver in them
feel better soon
dramadillo
August 3, 2023 at 4:00 AM
Dear Isa, thank you very much for letting us know how you’re doing, and I’m really glad to hear that you’re healing. I hope you continue to get better, and that many good things both big and small come your way whilst you recover. Enjoy the drama-watching time – I shall look forward to your wall posts!😊
PYC
August 3, 2023 at 7:39 AM
Best wishes for a speed recovery – please take it easy. Good to have a drama that you feel like digging in.
stpauligurl
August 3, 2023 at 1:01 PM
Oh dear Isa,
Thanks for keeping us updated!!! So glad you were able to get to the shower as fast as you could. But burns are hard to recover from. Especially when it is so hot where you live!
Thank goodness it doesn’t take a huge amount of energy to watch dramas. I’ll check in on Discord as well.
take good care. (((((HUGS)))))
SnarkyJellyfish
August 3, 2023 at 7:11 PM
I’m so glad to hear you’re doing better. I know healing is a slow process, and can be frustrating, but I’m so glad you’re okay. Hopefully you’ll get some good drama watching time in and will heal up stronger than ever. Sending lots of healing vibes your way.
Cecee
August 4, 2023 at 2:13 AM
Holy F*ck! Thankfully, you thought fast. How do your days look like? Is it even comfortable enough for you to sit down or lie down to sleep? With your body working hard on healing, it must be exhausting! Sending all sorts of good vibes your way.
As for the rants… Please do rant away about dramas and about anything else. We’ll read, laugh, and cry with you.
parkchuna dreams of all the Oppas
August 4, 2023 at 9:04 AM
Oh my gosh Isa! How you made the initial post sound so light with just a burned hand, when in fact, you even needed skin grafts is beyond me. I hope you’re recovering well and is getting all the support you need! Do take care, stay away from lighted candles and enjoy your dramas 🫶🏼
beffels
August 5, 2023 at 12:04 PM
Omg I had no idea it was that bad! I’m glad you’re alive and healing up, take it slow.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 8, 2023 at 4:31 AM
Beanies. I always talk about how alone I am. But. Today I feel surrounded by people who care about me. On Thursday I accidentally set myself on fire (there\’s a whole story there, I just don\’t have the energy to type it out. My hands are burned) and people have come out of the woodwork to check in on me. Some have even put their money where their mouths are and donated to my venmo. family I haven\’t spoken to in years are taking about coming to see me. It\’s nuts. I wanted to pop in and say I\’ll probably go I\’m active again while I\’m healing up. But I\’ll miss chatting with yall. I was watching 2! currently airing dramas.
Anne18
July 8, 2023 at 5:07 AM
Get well soon! We’ll miss your rants 😂❤
redfox
July 8, 2023 at 5:23 AM
oh my, I hope it heals? yikes. you could use voice to text though it sometimes has weird results. I made the experience of setting the language to english but spoke estonian, that was hilarious stuff.
glad that you are not alone at this time
Reply1988 - Mother Bean (DB Wooga squad)
July 8, 2023 at 5:30 AM
So happy to hear that despite experiencing a terrible event you have found some joy and love. Praying for a speedy healing process and that you are pain free soon. Take care.
TurtuallySarcastic
July 8, 2023 at 6:17 AM
My lovely Isa, always glad to get verification that you are still alive and kicking, especially when you have positive things to share!❤️ I am not eloquent enough to offer comforting replies to your posts, but please keep in mind that I hear (read) you always and am sending you good vibes nonstop!❤️
IsaGC
July 8, 2023 at 8:01 AM
Get well soon! I hope this site and the dramas you are watching help you a bit.
And enjoy the company of the people who are with you 🙂
bbstl 🧹
July 8, 2023 at 8:21 AM
Oh! Isa! All the best in your recovery and in the pleasure of knowing how much you are not alone, including Beanies! ❤️
SnarkyJellyfish
July 8, 2023 at 3:46 PM
Get well soon! Sending you lots of healing vibes. 💜
lapislazulii
July 8, 2023 at 7:34 PM
Hope you get well soon!! Wishing you a speedy recovery and sending lots of positive energies and love 💕
Elinor Lies
July 8, 2023 at 7:44 PM
Oh my goodness, how scary! I’m glad you’re still here to type about it! I hope your recovery is quick and complete. Please let us know how you’re doing, but only if and when you feel up to it.
korfan
July 9, 2023 at 2:44 AM
Wishing you a quick recovery! Take care and enjoy the drama-watching!
beffels
July 10, 2023 at 2:14 AM
Yikes! I’m glad you’re being supported and I hope your healing goes well! Enjoy your dramas ❤️
mugyuljoie is preciousss
July 10, 2023 at 3:19 AM
Oh no! I hope you heal fully and quickly.
Ayan
July 11, 2023 at 4:05 PM
Isa, wishing you a speedy recovery and I hope you get well soon!!! 💜💜💜
Ally
July 12, 2023 at 1:03 AM
Praying for you, isa! Glad you’re still watching some dramas!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 2, 2023 at 10:55 PM
KTL is full of high ridiculousness and cringe. Lands, so much cringe. But, I don\’t care. I want to be in FLs (I have no idea what her name is) squad. The way they slid the table aside and the mic and light ball were already there. The props. The pizza! The chicken! I don\’t even know what a dang pork trotter IS but I am HERE FOR IT. Let me in your gal gang. My life is terrible and yall look fun. I am willing to relocate to be part of the gal gang.
Mani-chan
July 3, 2023 at 7:08 AM
I’m there with you Isa. I haven’t been able to form a solid friend group since school ended (2020) and I was so envious of the friend group
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 2, 2023 at 7:06 PM
I\’ve gotta stop watching dramas that fill me with rage. But then what would I watch?
Mani-chan
July 3, 2023 at 7:09 AM
I have the same problem with this Indian tv show. It triggers my anger a lot but I still go back to it
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 2, 2023 at 6:26 PM
I do not have the words to express how much I utterly DESPISE Xin Xings ex and his horrible family. Also, the woman just had an abortion. Why does her friend think NOW is the time to gush about boys? She was literally plagued by nightmares about the decision she made. Sure, now is a great time to get back on that horse.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 2, 2023 at 6:54 PM
I’ve hated the ex’s mom since minute one but good night Xin Xings mom is certainly doing the work to get on the list this episode. What an awful, selfish, hosebeast of a woman. Forgetting the awful ex and his awful family but maybe just maybe keeping that baby would have been in the realm of the possible if Xin Xing didn’t have to raise her mother as well. Grow. Up.
And as badly as I feel for Xin Xing (this drama feels like tragedy p0n at this point) I’m super sick of Xin Xing taking her problems out on ML (who’s name I’ve forgotten). Yeah. He’s a highly ridiculous man child but he’s breaking his back trying to help her and make her laugh and feel better and he so doesn’t deserve her bitching him out every 3 minutes. Is it possible that she’s having such a hard time because she sucks as a person?
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 1, 2023 at 6:30 PM
What on earth is the deal with the national mom on KTL? Is she supposed to show us how entitled the rich are? Is she comic relief? Can she comically fall of a cliff or gdiaf?
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 1, 2023 at 6:44 PM
Excuse me, drama? That’s not who I requested fall off a cliff.
Blue (@mayhemf)
July 1, 2023 at 7:48 PM
😂😂😂
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
June 29, 2023 at 10:42 PM
I\’m not sure if I\’m going to make it with KTL. I don\’t love work-based dramas to begin with (restaurants being the exception)–I go to work already. It\’s hard there. I watch dramas to take me away from all of that. Now that the FL is \”at war\” at work and the evil woman stomping around firing people has made her presence felt I\’m not sure I can do it.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
June 30, 2023 at 12:48 PM
I keep meaning to give you two youth book titles. The audio books are very well done and they both have at least one wise and humorous girl. Three Times Lucky by Sheila Turnage (funny with a quirky southern small town setting) and The Midnight Children by Dan Gemeinhart (dark humor).
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
June 30, 2023 at 3:20 PM
Oh, nice! Thanks! I will look into these right now!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
June 29, 2023 at 9:37 PM
Why am I such a sucker for an emotionally distant douche of a male lead taking a \”do I like her\” quiz?
beffels
June 30, 2023 at 6:28 PM
I also like these, particularly when the questions are so glaringly obvious 😅