Heirs: Episode 2
by girlfriday
The romance gets going lightning fast on this show, though the show itself is still rather slow to get started—it still feels like we’re in the introductory phase where everyone takes a turn in the spotlight to show us who they are. It doesn’t make for a fast-moving hour, but in general I like the world and the people, that is to say, I like looking in on the screwed up world, and I like the mystery behind their intricate relationships.
The couple takes center stage in this episode, and they have an easy rapport and a breezy chemistry that works for me. The tone of the show is far more contemplative and less rom-com-y than Secret Garden or A Gentleman’s Dignity, but I actually like that it feels a bit more like a throwback angsty teen flick than a comedy. So far, so good.
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EPISODE 2 RECAP
After ditching our homeless, passport-less heroine Eun-sang in the street to wait for her sister alone, Tan turns his car around and shows up at her side. They stare at each other intently, and then he offers to take her to his place.
She asks, “Is your place really safer than here?” He thinks about it and says he doesn’t know if it’s safer for her, but it IS nicer. Why did that sound like a come-on?
She decides to chance it, and her jaw drops as soon as they enter his ginormous house. He plops down on the couch and she looks around for his family, but he says he lives alone. That freaks her out more than anything, and she starts speaking in half-jondae: “W-what are you? Are you a drug dealer? A gangster, perhaps?” Ha.
He agrees just to mess with her, inching towards her with every word. I love that she grabs her backpack like a shield, but he leans in close just to point out that the door she’s leaning on leads to her room. Cheeky.
She finally gets to sit down and process the crazy that happened today, and sighs to relive her sister’s betrayal. Hunger pangs soon overtake her angst though, and she realizes she hasn’t eaten all day.
She sneaks out to the kitchen, only to find canned food and sports drinks in the fridge (Who keeps cans in the fridge?) and eats straight out of cans in the dark. That’s just sad. Tan finds her stuffing her face guiltily, and she swears she only ate stuff that was past its expiration date, and slides over a five-dollar bill to pay for her meal.
He asks how she lives that she eats expired food, but doesn’t get an answer. He asks her name, and only gets a, “Thanks for letting me stay here for the night.” Tan: “That’s a long name.” He says that none of this is charity—it’s repayment, since his friend stole the bean powder meant for her sister.
Meanwhile, Big Bro President Won is preparing to head to the States for a business trip, and Secretary Yoon (Chan-young’s dad) tells him that President Choi (Young-do’s dad) called to suggest he stay at one of their hotels.
Won notes that he’s already playing nice with Jeguk ever since he got engaged to RS’s president (Rachel’s mom), and that stops Secretary Yoon in his tracks. Aw, is she an old flame? Won continues to be an ass to Secretary Yoon, who’s still loyal as ever to his father and doesn’t hesitate to show it.
We meet Dad for the first time as he chats pleasantly with his ex-wife (the second wife with no kids). Chairman Kim is in a wheelchair, and Madam Jung tells him to stop being nice—it won’t get her to remove herself from the family registry.
He chuckles and says he has no intention of ousting her; after all, she’s the one who brought Tan’s mother into this house. She points out that it was better than the alternative, with him hiding his affair outside of the house.
Meanwhile Tan’s mother Madam Han has her ear pressed to the door trying desperately to hear what they’re saying. Won catches her red-handed, which is clearly a normal sight around here. She just rolls her eyes and announces him at the door.
She tells Won that his mother is here (by which she means stepmother, technically), but Won bites back that his mother is not in this house. She rolls her eyes again: “Fine. Ajumma. The ajumma who raised you is here! And this ajumma is leaving now.”
He walks into the room, and Madam Jung feels the icy non-greeting from Won. Theirs was clearly not a warm relationship, but she still feels slighted, and she points out that she did raise him for ten years. He snarks back: “I’m sorry I only amounted to this after you raised me for ten years.”
Dad has to call a cease-fire, and then tells Won that he should take Tan with him to his business meeting in LA. Won chafes at the idea, but Dad makes a point of saying that it’s not his company yet. He’s taking Little Bro, and that’s that.
Madam Han hilariously yanks Madam Jung aside, and despite the fact that they’re rivals, they’re surprisingly comfortable and frank with one another. Madam Han wants to know about her upcoming meeting with Rachel’s mom, saying that it’s in-law business and she should be in the know.
Madam Jung puts her in her place: “Who’s your in-law? Tan is MY son, have you forgotten that?” OH. Well that’s news to me. Also, do they have the most complicated family registry or what?
Madam Han counters that Tan sure would be happy to find out that his mother gets treated this way, while Madam Jung spits back that being called madam for a few years has made her think she’s a wife in this family. “But as long as I’m alive, you are just my husband’s mistress.” Dayum.
As she holds back her tears, Tan writes: “Another woman’s bags, another woman’s house, another woman’s husband… a pitiful person who spends her whole life wanting others’ things. That person is…” And his phone rings with a call from Mom.
Eun-sang finishes the thought: “Mom?” She’s calling her own, of course, and her eyes fill with tears as she lies through her teeth about unni’s beautiful house with a green lawn and how tanned she is from the California sun (Mom answers with taps on the phone’s receiver).
Tan overhears the whole conversation as he stands at the door with a sandwich, and I do love the look in his eyes every time he inadvertently catches her at her most vulnerable moments.
He shoves the sandwich at her and wonders about the dollar sitting on the nightstand, which she says is for the long-distance call. He says that she sure spends her money freely, and then she adds the dream catcher as payment for the room.
She tells him it wards off bad dreams and only pretty dreams are supposed to come through the holes. Tan: “Does it not bring pretty women?” He hangs it over his door with a smile, and then watches from the backyard as Eun-sang barricades her door, and then proceeds to undress in plain sight. He nearly chokes on his sandwich and runs inside in a hurry.
She wakes up in the morning to the nicest view that money can buy, and Tan watches her, taken with her smile and just suspended there. I swear, if he keeps staring that intently, I might not make it to ten weeks.
She finds him on his way out to school, relieved that he’s not a drug dealer after all, and jumps to get her things packed so she can be on her way. But he throws out excuse after excuse why she can’t go now—her sister’s diner doesn’t open till later, there are no buses here—and suggests she come with him to school since she mentioned always wanting to see what kind of schools people go to here.
So they drive up the coast and she warns him that she’s going to stick her hands out of the car. He lets her be embarrassing for one minute, but then smiles to see her enjoying herself.
He goes to class while she sits outside taking in the scenery, and he steals glances at her out of the window. In the first non-soul-cringingly-embarrassing English scene in this drama, the professor talks about beautiful words in the English language, and says that a survey put “mother” at the top of the list. It makes Tan pause.
True to slacker form though, he doesn’t turn in his essay that’s due today, despite the fact that he wrote one. The professor’s pretty zen about the whole thing, wondering if maybe he wouldn’t find more purpose if he started to turn things in. Rather wise.
He heads out and finds Eun-sang elsewhere on campus, watching a pair of Korean girls put up flyers for a party. She notes with a wisp of jealousy that she was just looking at kids who had met good parents. He assures her those parties are lame anyway.
She thanks him for everything and says her goodbye, intending to go find her sister on her own. He lets her take about two steps before insisting he’d rather ditch his next class and go with her, and she’s geeky enough to wonder why anyone would want to skip math class. What.
There’s more bad news at the diner though, because unni quit her job and skipped town. Her ex-boyfriend shows up just as upset because she took his money too, and when he starts demanding it back from Eun-sang, Tan steps in to get violent.
But the ex has two halfwit goons who start chasing them, so Eun-sang grabs Tan’s wrist and starts running. This whole scene is ridiculous, but I do love how much he’s enjoying the handholding and running.
He gets another call from Rachel that he ignores yet again, leaving her fuming in her gilded hotel room. She gets a call two seconds later and snickers thinking it’s Tan crawling back to her… but it turns out to be Mom. Ha. Spiteful, I know, but I enjoyed that.
Mom assumes she’s with Tan and asks what he said about her engagement to Young-do’s dad, and insists that Rachel tell him—isn’t he best friends with Young-do? Rachel: “They’re not friends.”
Back in Seoul, Young-do arrives at Dad’s hotel on his new motorcycle and goes to work in the kitchen scrubbing dishes. We hear from a pair of chefs that he’s been doing this every vacation since junior high, an order from Dad to learn the hotel business from the ground up if he’s to inherit the company someday.
He does as told, except he won’t do it with a sunny attitude, and talks back to the manager like he already owns the place. He hears that the police chief is dining here, and Young-do points out that that seems like a duty much more suited to him than washing dishes.
The chief prosecutor is dining with his family, and son LEE HYO-SHIN (Kang Haneul) assures dad and grandpa that he’s preparing well for his college exams. God, it’s a stifling atmosphere, with a father, grandfather, and two uncles all telling him exactly how he should be planning for his future. Thirty seconds in this room tells us that failure is not an option in the Lee family.
Young-do enters the room to introduce himself, and checks the service just as his father would, earning praise for his good manners. But the way he pours Hyo-shin’s water with a menacing undertone seems like there’s plenty of bad blood between these two. He fills the glass to the brim and says pointedly that he looked thirsty.
A few minutes later, Hyo-shin is knocking on Young-do’s door (he seems to live in the hotel, which makes sense) and asks to use his bathroom, and goes straight to the toilet to throw up his lunch. Huh.
They’re not friendly, but they’re on pretty close (and antagonistic) terms, given that Young-do knows about the upchucking habit. He calls Hyo-shin “sunbae,” but talks down to him, and wonders why he came all the way up here to lose his lunch. Hyo-shin says that it’s better than running into his father in the bathroom.
Young-do thinks it weird that Hyo-shin would show him any weakness, while Hyo-shin counters that Young-do has shown more faults than he has. I… can’t tell what the hell is with you two, but I kinda like that I can’t tell.
Back in LA, Tan continues to ignore his phone while Eun-sang buys coffee. She moons over drinking her americano in America, needing at least one happy memory of being here. Tan balks at that, and asks if she really doesn’t have a single good memory.
He pauses expectantly for her to think of them, but when she changes the subject, he actually gets pissy with her. Hee.
She sees a group of friends taking pictures together, and it triggers an idea for how she’ll get back home. (I suppose I should’ve guessed that her sister stole her plane ticket money too, but who buys one-way tickets?) She messages her buddy Chan-young online, since she doesn’t have his phone number memorized.
Tan peers at the message and wonders if it’s her boyfriend, and she says he’s a “boy” and “friend.” He doesn’t see how she intends to get this guy’s help when she doesn’t even know where he is, and she cries defensively, “He’s in my heart!” Hahaha. He’s so jealous.
He drops her off at home with his keys while he takes the cab back to pick up his car, and on the way he starts snooping into her online life because she left the account open on his phone. That’s when he finally learns her name, and sees the kinds of messages she posts.
Among them are: “I wish Freddy and Jason would make up,” and “I don’t wanna go to work today. On a rainy day in spring, I should be watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre.” Ha.
He finds what he’s looking for—pictures of Chan-young—and there’s a hilarious split screen where he imagines them conversing and interjects annoyed asides. It’s priceless. But one post leaves him wide-eyed: “I hate it that Mom is having a hard time. Down with Jeguk Group.” The cop finds him and hands off Eun-sang’s passport.
Back in Seoul, Bo-na pouts at all her unanswered calls to boyfriend Chan-young, wondering if he’s already found a pretty American girl to date. Young-do watches her hysterics and flirts that she’s pretty when she’s clinging, which rankles his buddy who’s obviously sweet on her. I get the sense that Young-do purposely says the most hackle-raising thing he can think of in any situation, just for shits and giggles.
This time Chan-young finally answers her call, and she asks why he hasn’t commented on the selca she posted online. He says he turned all that off because he couldn’t study, but he checks on her insistence, and that’s when he sees Eun-sang’s message.
Eun-sang packs her bag and heads up the stairs to leave… where she runs into Rachel, just arriving. Gah. They recognize each other from the airport, but Rachel’s more interested to know who the hell she is and why she’s at her fiancé’s house.
Eun-sang thinks that’s weird—the owner of this house is in high school. Rachel says they were engaged at seventeen, and that still doesn’t explain what she’s doing here. It only gets worse when she learns that Eun-sang spent the night, and turns her bitch dial up to ten as she kicks her suitcase down the stairs and then orders her to open it so she can make sure she didn’t steal anything. Good lord.
Eun-sang suffers the indignity of opening up her bag to prove that she’s not a thief, and Rachel spills the contents out just to be extra obnoxious. She tells her to clean up her trash, and Eun-sang is left holding back her tears. She sits outside at a park with her bag, with nowhere to go.
Bo-na paces back and forth, wondering why there’s still no response to her selca after two hours. She’s hilarious. Young-do tells her to dump him and date his buddy Myung-soo instead, and she calls him crazy three times, deflating poor Myung-soo.
Young-do is all jokes until the mention of Tan, when Myung-soo says that Rachel went all the way to LA to see him. Bo-na seems to be on Young-do’s side of whatever this feud is, because she tells Myung-soo that she hates hearing Kim Tan’s name.
Eun-sang goes to book a ticket back to Seoul, but finds that she’s short on cash, as expected. She asks to reserve it anyway, but then realizes that she still doesn’t have her passport.
Tan comes back home and asks where Eun-sang went, and Rachel points out that it’s been half a year since they’ve seen each other, but that’s all he’s got to say? So then he tosses in a half-assed, “You’ve gotten prettier.”
He sighs to hear that she told Eun-sang that they were engaged, and when she asks why he didn’t come to the airport to greet her, he doesn’t even bother to open his eyes as he gives the excuses that it was too far and too hot. She asks point-blank why he agreed to this engagement in the first place, and he says matter-of-factly: “So that I don’t have to marry you later.” Ouch. Also, do you people do everything backwards?
Eun-sang rings the doorbell, and Tan yells at her for leaving without a word. She’s just here for the cop’s card so she can get her passport back, but before Tan can tell her that he has it, Rachel says she threw it out in the trash.
Eun-sang races to the trash bins, and Tan tells Rachel to butt out. She heads down to grab her purse when she hears Tan’s phone go off, and reads the message from Chan-young with his phone number. I want to point out to her that deleting that would just give Eun-sang more reason to lean on Tan for help, but I think self-foot-shooting is her style.
Tan comes out to find Eun-sang digging through the trash, and asks if she’s crying. She says she’s been trying not to cry, but no matter how hard she tries to escape her life, here she is, next to the trash all over again. She cries that there’s no twist to her story.
He apologizes and hands her the passport, when suddenly two NEW thugs show up looking for him. What in the what? Why does this keep happening?
There’s literally no explanation, since the only point is to give them another reason to hold hands and run. So they hold hands and run. (I’m sorry, did you just run from Malibu to Hollywood? Pwahaha.)
They duck into a movie theater to hide, and Eun-sang gets lost in the movie, but doesn’t understand the dialogue. Tan starts translating for her: “She says, ‘If I’m going to trust you, I need to know who you are.'”
And then he starts making up his own lines: “She says she met someone yesterday. Her name was Cha Eun-sang.” Eun-sang wonders how he found out her name.
Tan: “But now there’s something she’s curious about… Do I… maybe… like you?”
COMMENTS
It’s interesting how different Tan is with Eun-sang, and that he consciously has many faces: the heir and (outwardly) dutiful son, the party boy, the thoughtful writer, and the slacker who couldn’t care less. My favorite thing about him is that he’s actually too lazy to rebel properly—he admits so himself, and it’s evidenced by his engagement to Rachel, which is the path of least resistance. Do as you’re told, and keep your head down. There’s something nicely subdued about the character that keeps him interesting, because he represses his conflicts instead of acting out. The go-to chaebol archetypes get played in the other characters—Won, Young-do—so it’s really (really) great to have a hero who’s a shade more realistic, grayer in motivation, and a little lost.
The exiled prince metaphor works perfectly for this character, not just because the family is, as javabeans pointed out, set up like a carbon copy of Joseon royalty, but because it encapsulates the wasted potential in the hero—he could be great, a leader, a future king, but gets his wings clipped and caged because his existence poses a threat. The fact that we begin here, where he’s accepted his lot in life as the extraneous son who’s supposed to hide to survive, makes his arc a fascinating one. The two moms conflict isn’t even the usual birth secret, and I’m interested to know why they chose to make him the son of the de facto concubine rather than the queen—it’s playing chess with your children for the sake of the inheritance, and it’s at least strange enough that I find it interesting rather than just the same old. At least I hope the answer isn’t the same old.
Though two episodes of setup doesn’t feel as zippy as I would’ve liked, I do enjoy the way we get introduced to characters. There’s simmering animosity underlying every interaction that makes me curious about the backstory, but it’s nice to let that inform present attitudes without dropping The Past into our laps. With the exception of the main couple whose first meeting is onscreen, everyone else has a history we aren’t privy to, and I love feeling like we’re only hitting the tip of the iceberg with all the relationships. That kind of storytelling is engaging without gimmicks, and I think the show is strongest when it uses that.
On the flipside, then there’s the reaching for yet another excuse to get the couple running from thugs (because that’s the only way to ignite romance, apparently—sparks via mildly threatening surfer goons), and then I basically want to spork my eyes out. I mean, does the Candy really need to be digging in the literal trash to feel like trash? Is that necessary? We geddit. She’s poor.
That aside, I do think the couple has sparks—the lingering moments, the intense gazes—all of that is golden, and I really like them together. She’s pricklier than he is, which is great, but also not so down on herself and so doom and gloom that she can’t just enjoy a nice day like an eighteen-year old should. I can actually see how and why he’s taken with her, and frankly that’s not always a given with romance. Sometimes I watch sixteen episodes still wondering, And why do you two like each other again?
But he keeps seeing her at her worst, when she’s down on her luck and at her wit’s end, and there’s this fantastic silent empathy happening that I just love. The show is still finding its footing (and being outside of Seoul is most of that, I’d wager) but I like where we’re headed with the couple. Attraction happening this quickly means it leaves a lot more room for unexpected turns, and that has me excited for what’s to come.
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151 hazel
October 12, 2013 at 3:02 AM
the 2 "thugs" that chase our main characters all the way to hollywood (lol) are the boyfriend & friend of that one white girl.
Earlier, lee minho's character mentioned that her boyfriend came looking for him before as well.
probably because of the jealousy since that white girl seems to be interested in lee minho.
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152 grace
October 12, 2013 at 4:05 AM
Nice recap thanks..
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153 Rinovi
October 12, 2013 at 4:10 AM
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Aaren
October 13, 2013 at 10:43 PM
No, I noticed that too. Especially not in a ritzy beachside cafe in an upperclass suburban neighborhood like Malibu. Pretty ridiculous.
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154 msg
October 12, 2013 at 4:43 AM
The comments here are more entertaining than the tv show itself...keep it coming drama experts....
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peacegee
October 12, 2013 at 9:38 AM
yes, totally agreed! the comments here are the best escapade and endorphin inducing... LOL
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155 UZ
October 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM
So with all the hype surrounding this drama i had so much expectation for it but it fell short. yeah LMH's intense staring sorta melt my heart but i'm one of those rare few who don't get why LMH's falling in love with the candy girl so fast so soon. And don;t get me started on the plot holes... Since my (drama) party hour is limited and precious i'm dropping out of this to concentrate on Secret. Now that drama is one unexpected gem.
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windsun33
October 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM
I have thought about it for weeks (OK, a few minutes) and I can't figure out why Secret hooked me so bad. It has a lot of the usual idiotic Candy martyr noble idiot stuff for the heroine, but for some reason I actually really feed bad for her.
Unlike in Heirs where it is "oh yay, another super poor hardworking candy girl with with a brand new Samsung S3 tablet". I just can't connect.
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hjw
October 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM
The Korean rating for Heirs must be a big disappointment. SeGa opened with around a 17% share and ended with a 32% national share (40% in Seoul). Its average rating was almost 25%. A Gentleman's opened to around 14%, and ended with an almost 20% average. Heirs had a 11.6% share for the first episode and dropped to 10.5% for ep. 2. Not exactly encouragingly. It looks like a huge failure for a Kim Eun Sook drama if nothing changes soon.
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156 kumi
October 12, 2013 at 6:52 AM
I want Kim Tan to become a successful writer.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 7:39 PM
@ayaan
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157 Lilian
October 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM
"In the first non-soul-cringingly-embarrassing English scene in this drama, the professor talks about beautiful words in the English language, and says that a survey put “mother” at the top of the list. It makes Tan pause."
Loved this scene too. I was trying to think of the word too. And the answer is indeed beautiful.. at least for most people. But Tan is probably thinking why his mother(s) are like that.....
I can totally get his attraction to her too! And I don't find it slow though. Dream High took way longer to intro Kim Soo Hyun. And here we have so much more characters so it is fine!
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158 calliep
October 12, 2013 at 3:50 PM
I think the criticisms about LMH's English in the show is somewhat unfair. He had problems with pronouncing some words e.g. “already” and some others, he has a definite accent, but he is supposed to be in the US for only 3 years so that is believable. Many people who have been here for even longer still have strong accents, and difficulty in correctly pronouncing some words. He spoke the way American’s do apart from the accent. He did some slang like teenagers like to do. He did not speak Konglish. PSH did, she said husbande and foode (for husband and food) but being Korean and not good in English, speaking Konglish was also believable, nothing really to cringe about. America is all about accents. There is Irish, Southern, black ebonics, Eastern European, etc, etc. During Katrina disaster, someone interviewed a white southern fisherman and he had such a thick southern brogue and way of speaking that I could hardly understand him and he was born in America. I actually thought LMH spoke as well as could be expected, he was extremely cute when he said that he looked good and stuck a baseball cap on his head, with that impish smile but all the comments were mainly about his Engrish. I heard him call Jay “dipshit” and I thought he pronounced that correctly. I really didn't feel there was anything to be embarrassed about and they could remain in LA for the next few episodes. I am used to all kinds of English even among native speakers here and in Britain.
As for the lousy American actors and the overacting, especially Jay, I wonder if Kim Eun Sook deliberately wanted to accentuate the stereotyping of America. Since this is a comedy, she wanted to make it comedic and exaggerated the stereotyping. Another thing, it is for Korean audiences so the director would prefer that the Americans speak more slowly so that they could be understood by Koreans who only understand some English. It is not really for the American market. The only part that I really cringed was the group of punks disturbing PSH at the dead of night. I thought Jay reminded me of some of the American comedies like Dumber and Dumber, some parts of American Pie, they do use all the language and mannerisms that Jay used, e.g. dude, etc. Some one mentioned that it was like Fast Times at Ridgemont High. There have been some other dumb American movies about teens that I have seen bits and pieces of that reminded me of Jay. Can’t remember the titles. Could be that Kim Eun Sook wanted to follow that style.
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DHMRS
October 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM
I think I agree with you, although I think the punks who bugged her at night weren't that far out of the norm. I kind of liked them- they reminded me of kids I knew in my teens. Yes, they were loud, raucous, and *briefly* gave her a little bit of a hard time, but it was all verbal and rang real to me. They said their piece, and kept on walking. If she'd been from the area, she'd have known to shout a few things back, and they'd have had a few minutes of mutual fun and parted company, or they'd have become instant friends.
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Aaren
October 13, 2013 at 10:46 PM
That group of kids were the most realistic California characters in the entire show so far.
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aeroja
October 14, 2013 at 12:17 PM
The people in this community can be pretty unforgiving when it comes to broken-English or thick English accents. I get that it can be cringe worthy to hear when you are a native speaker of the language, but speaking in a foreign tongue isn't, uh, easy, and Asian speakers especially tend to have a difficult time with English and all the sounds it possesses that they are not used to using.
So I agree, I think it is pretty harsh to ridicule him as much as the majority of posters here seem to be doing.
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159 denise
October 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM
I'm liking the appearance of Kang Haneul and Kim Woo Bin's characters much more than the other .
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Mary Crispe
October 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM
I am sorry but Kim Woo Bin looks like somebody who had several plastic surgeries. He wears too much make up or maybe he is just too light skinned. But he acts well as a villain.
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C
October 13, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Kim Woo Bin's looks remind me of Jude Law in Artificial Intelligence.
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160 DHMRS
October 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Probably the most trivial comment ever, but as the mother of two teens and five young adults not so long out of their teens, I have the obvious answer to this parenthetical question from the recap:
(Who keeps cans in the fridge?)
Teens, GF, teens. Which is what Tan is supposed to be.
No matter how many times I tell them not to do this, when they help with the kitchen clean up, if there are any cans that didn't get finished off (say, half of a can of pumpkin was used for muffins, or half a can of tomato paste went in the enchilada sauce, or we used only 1/3 of the can of sweet red beans on our ice cream)- they take the short cut and put the opened can in the fridge.
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ilikemangos
October 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM
I thought it was a normal thing to do until GF and others pointed out that it was not :(
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kumi
October 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Teen Tan teems tons of tins. :)
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momosa
October 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM
:)
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161 chii
October 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM
i just hope when first time i hear about this drama being the second Gossip Girl, i think their story line at least as intersting as GG. I mean their game and conspiracy. and i love hiw kristal and min hyuk play their character. just as perfect as i expected.
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162 anna
October 13, 2013 at 3:14 AM
OK, why do I get gay vibe from Lee Hyo-shin? I mean, that would be too risque for kdrama :D I feel some sort of sexual tension between those two.
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163 Wehng
October 13, 2013 at 5:19 AM
Thanks so much for making a recap of this...i was really looking forward to ur opinion on whether this is a great drama that i should keep on watching :)
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164 heyfriday
October 13, 2013 at 5:59 AM
oh mother of God. so many freakin characters! i'm so confused naaw with their ties and all. anyway, i love LMH and PSH's chemistry. Tan's stare just melts me away dayuum! I'm still not that hooked with the drama, but i'm enjoying it anyway.
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165 Niki
October 13, 2013 at 6:28 AM
I'm confused. I do not see any chemistry between LMH and PSH. His indifferent and wistful gaze when he looks at her. What happened to the LMH?
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kumi
October 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM
I guess Kim Tan doesn't like Chemistry either. Just like Math.
:P
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momosa
October 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Ha!
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166 Aaren
October 13, 2013 at 10:39 PM
I laughed SO hard when they took off running in Malibu and a second later were in Hollywood. There were a lot of incongruent jumps around town like that, but that one was the most blatant and ridiculous. Awesome.
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167 me
October 13, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Im glad u mentioned the American teacher's acting was decent I didnt wanna bore my ears out when he spoke...hr reminded me of feeny from boys meet world
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aeroja
October 14, 2013 at 12:19 PM
lol yes! Feeny 4 Lyfe.
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168 strangerpal01
October 14, 2013 at 3:55 AM
"I swear, if he keeps staring that intently, I might not make it to ten weeks."
You just wrote down my inner fangirl feeling in one sentence.
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169 Maris
October 14, 2013 at 4:33 AM
I fail to understand all the fuss about LMH unable to speak English without an accent. I would love it if any foreigner would attempt to speak my mother tongue. I would appreciate and encourage him. Many people who have lived longer than KT in America have more pronounced accent and worse spoken English.
Another criticism about portraying America in a bad light reminds me of what Khalil Gibran said,
" two men looked out of the prison bars, one saw mud
and the other stars."
Instead of focusing on American characters in the drama, one just have to observe the surroundings and the people to realize what it's like over there. The setting of the school when CES observes the different students interact as she waits outside for KT is just one such example.....teacher, classroom, students, policeman all seem good to me. Just one or two characters do not represent any country.
My focus remained on the main leads throughout the drama though I did wish his blonde friend less screen time.
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170 Maris
October 14, 2013 at 4:48 AM
After watching the two episodes, I am looking forward to the development of the characters as the drama progresses. They all show promise in being very interesting in their own way. I am very curious about their future relationships and how they develop in the coming episodes.
Let's see what KES, the writer has in store for us. I, for one am not imagining but leaving it to her to take me wherever she is going with her story and characters. I have a feeling this is not going to be just another drama.
KT, CES, YSY,YD,Rachel and Lee Hyoshin are all being played well by these young actors and actresses. But, my favorites are the main leads, Minhyuk and KWB with marvellous screen presence.
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171 Joannah
October 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM
The English in this drama is HORRIBLE. And yes, they did apparently run from Malibu to Hollywood. Which just drives me crazy. Really? I know those directors or whatever are from Korea, but would you do that in Korea? Jump from a scene in one city to another city when all the Korean citizens will recognize it. Better that they choose a location with no known markers. But no, these Korean directors just don't think beyond "these-are-rich-kids-so-they-should-be-right-in-the-midst-of-everything-happening." What they don't understand is that L.A. is not like Gangnam where all the expensive homes and trendy nightclubs are nearby. The beauty of L.A. is how spread out everything is.
But I guess running from Malibu to Hollywood is no crazier than making a random stop at Santa Monica pier while you detour to whatever slum neighborhood Stella is living after you arrive at LAX. Not to mention that there's a really steep incline you have to walk down (while rolling your suitcase) to get to where PSH is standing on the pier as she spies on LMH surfing.
But I think my favorite are the Korean hotels that we are supposed to believe are actually U.S. hotels. Sorry, but U.S. hotels don't have those guady walls and furniture. Or those fancy rotary phones that appear in every drama chaebol's household. It's a one-minute scene where Rachel calls (or tries to call Tan) on the phone from her fancy hotel. Just rent the presidential suite at the Four Seasons, take video from every single angle, and then reuse it as background in every other Korean drama that follows. Or better yet, build a stage scene. Just don't expect us to believe that's actually a U.S. hotel room.
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172 penny
October 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM
I adore K-dramas. I really do. But times like when the mean girl knocks the suitcase down stairs, I can't help but think a little bit of trailer park is a good thing. Just once on a K-drama I'd like to see the mean girl get snatched bald. LOL
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173 memyself
October 15, 2013 at 7:32 AM
The first episode was a real sloooooooow introduction, set up and all. The second was better but overall not what I expected. I also still have to decide how to feel about the acting. PSH is great and LMH is good too. It’s just that … I don’t know. I still can’t feel completely for LMH’s character. This is not to say that I didn't like the series. The relationships are interesting. The family relationships are mostly messed up at best; the relationship between friends endearing and engaging.
About why "they chose to make him the son of the de facto concubine rather than the queen"; if I’m not wrong, a concubine’s son wasn't worth much, could not amount to something and was always shamed for that pesky detail in the past. Maybe they want to do it different here?! I mean a lot of years have passed. A concubine’s son can sure become king now (or a something :D) even if he couldn't in the past? However, I'm not sure if he himself thinks he deserves that. He who thinks his mother has snatched someone else's purse, house, and husband; maybe he just doesn't feel comfortable with the idea of doing the same to his brother?! and that's why he has accepted exile quietly and obediently? that and his laziness to rebel?! or is laziness an excuse to cover the real reason?
ok, enough with my wild guesses. hope it will be a good drama. enjoy Ur time watching it everyone. And thanks for the recaps JB and GF.
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174 sheena artista
October 16, 2013 at 7:55 AM
woow im so excited....
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175 Anon
October 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM
I'm dying to know what are the songs played. Other than "I'm saying" by Lee Hong Ki. Like I want to know what's the song played while they were running away. Helppp.
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176 beth
October 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM
what phone do they use ?
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177 fairouzmm
October 22, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Hi again,
it's getting more interesting, but still i don't like the two lead together as i mentioned before the actress looks too old for LMH, but i like v. much her acting so far. but if they gonna love each other it should be done gradually or there should be a reason to fall suddenly in love (opposite characters, beauty, personality...) so they should start (or him in this case) to get attracted first and then like and later fall deeply in love. but as it seemed to me he is already hooked and in love which i think is a little pet forced love story from my point of view. but in the other hand the way she seems to feel or not feel, is more reasonable to me.
I like Young-do character, and curious to see if the main conflict gonna be between the hires or the hires and their families or just a predictable mismatched love story.
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178 afrofan
October 24, 2013 at 3:43 AM
I am loving this drama, though i am known to be a bit biased where LMH is concerned. I think he's doing a great job in this one (sorry to all you who have negative opinions), but there is nothing wrong with his face either LOL! :o) Plus he is looking more "manly" in my opinion with a built upper body and less boyish face. Otherwise, my favorite part so far was when he had to hug that half naked blonde (in a bikini) He looked soooo uncomfortable (which made him look very innocent and cute). but anyway, I'm loving it, and can't wait for more!!
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179 Nabs
October 24, 2013 at 8:03 AM
does anyone know the song played in this ep when they were in the car together and wearing shades? i wanna know pleaseeeeee >_< so hard to find this song!!
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180 Angel
October 24, 2013 at 10:18 AM
The second set of 'goons' chasing after them was actually the angry boyfriend of that American girl who's extra friendly with Tan, and his backup friend. That's why at the beginning of the 3rd episode, there was a short convo between Tan and his Overacting American friend about that incident. The part where blondie said the group went to visit him at the hospital too and that he took care of it. -just FYI :)
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181 vanillasalt
October 25, 2013 at 12:58 AM
I literally could not stop laughing at the Malibu to Hollywood part! Like yup malibu and hollywood are walking distance, so accurate. HAHAHA!
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182 XSolita
October 27, 2013 at 6:02 AM
Loving this drama so far! I was curious if it was going to live up to the hype and I think they are doing pretty well so far. Always love Lee Min Ho and the way he stares at Eun Sang... I almost died <3
Have a question, where does everybody watch their drama's? I get them from Asiatorrents but I feel that the subs from VIKI and Dramafever sometimes translate things differently which changes the whole meaning sometimes.
Do you guys prefer VIKI or Dramafever? :)
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183 Shea
October 28, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Hi All,
Im lookoing for the titile of the song during ep. 2 scene is when park shin is putting on her shirt the lee minho saw her then he ran inside the house then the music played
please see link below hope you could all help me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnK8hsbo55E
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184 Myoung
November 1, 2013 at 7:17 PM
I agree with you on the attraction happening so quickly, I thought it was awesome too.
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185 Jerboa83
May 11, 2015 at 10:57 AM
LOL for their 40 miles run! :-D
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186 pranxoxo
August 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM
In this episode does anybody know the song's name when Eun Sang was changing and Tan almost chokes on his sandwich and runs inside? :( Even Shazam isn't helping
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187 sumithra
December 19, 2015 at 1:50 AM
Hey can someone please help me, I need the song that is played when kim tan sees eun sang changing the dress, songs sounds like and we will see we will leave..... it jst sounds like that, I dont know if it is english even...
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188 sumithra
December 19, 2015 at 1:52 AM
Even I am trying for the same song @pranxoxo :(
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189 edgepee
August 10, 2016 at 7:25 AM
THIS IS SUCH A LONG SHOT
But does anyone know the instrumental that plays when Kim Tan asked Eun Sang to come to his house? The one while he's in the car and she at the sidewalk. Its the one with electric guitar.
Been looking for it like a mad woman. STILL. CAN'T FIND.
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mary
August 10, 2016 at 3:31 PM
Ack, maybe you can ask in this week's Open Thread on Friday? Not a lot of people come back to check old recaps and I'm sorry I don't know that scene or song...
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190 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 14, 2020 at 10:25 PM
Heirs: A Tale of Discord Vol. 2
Conversations tend to move through every topic eventually, usually with lashings of tea, croissants, bagels, baggles and the odd soulless cry of existential angst into the Void.
We do, of course, talk about dramas every now and then as well. To that we can now add The Great Thank You Scandal.
Today we talked about watching Heirs but not actually Heirs for reasons that are self-evident to anyone who has watched even a minute of Heirs. As far as romances between the blank-faced son of a drug kingpin and his family’s sobbing drug mule (we may be rewriting this while we go), this is probably the best we can expect.
I have no idea who any of these people are, all I know is there are the Rich Characters and the Poor Characters and the quote unquote “Bean Powder” (we all know what’s really going on here) and now Candy is moving in with Chaebol, which Psycho Second Female Lead will no doubt be horrified by (but not as much as the status-obsessed future Mother-in-law).
It’s almost as though we’ve seen this all before.
I know we said we’d aim for 1000 comments in the recaps but short of driving everyone even more cray cray with our cray cray, I have opted to instead just press play on episode 2.
Join me on the recap page as I wade, once again, into Heirs.
Tag ‘em, @sicarius.
Tag ‘em good.
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azzo
January 14, 2020 at 10:41 PM
Oh, I can't wait for the recap of the recap 😂
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KSKalways
January 15, 2020 at 6:13 AM
lol me too!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 14, 2020 at 11:49 PM
I know it's only episode 2 but... I... I...
I kind of like Tan. I was not expecting to like Tan. Is this the right show?
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wapz
January 14, 2020 at 11:52 PM
LMH charm?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 12:02 AM
No. This is me you're talking to. No.
For a start, he's actually kind. He's not a jerk. He's not rude, he's not mean. He seems to barely notice his money and doesn't care about status. He never acts like a rich kid, except in the entitlement of his laziness and even that does not stop him from showing genuine empathy and acting on it. Also, he's honest and just tells people the truth about things, like telling his fiancé that he doesn't want to marry her and also that her behaviour is out of line.
As I said, it's episode 2 of the kind of drama that will inevitably assassinate all its characters till the point where we hate everyone and want them to die. But if I had watched this drama when it aired, I would have no doubt labelled Tan as a refreshing male lead.
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Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 1:07 AM
Well, you know it's going to go bad from that well-known director-requested forced kiss nastiness. (Which is why I'm not watching this, however much I would otherwise be willing to join in suffering you inflict on yourself)
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 1:09 AM
I actually don't know @cloggie. I know nothing. I have successfully pretended this drama never existed until now. LMH. PSH. Almost everyone hates it. That's all I know.
Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 1:12 AM
Do you want to know?
Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 1:15 AM
Actually, I think I shouldn't tell you.
I don't want to torpedo your valliant attempt at watching this drama before you've even got to ep 3
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 1:18 AM
I feel forewarned but unspoiled and will happily ditch this little experiment if necessary. So this thing was the director, right? How annoying for the writer.
Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 2:31 AM
It's more the way the director decided to shoot a certain scene. That's a topic I've got Opinions on...
egads aka Dame Maggie
January 15, 2020 at 3:17 AM
Ughhhhh, I had forgotten about that.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 15, 2020 at 4:16 AM
@cloggie It sounds like I can look forward to a good rant eventually. *checks to see if I have popcorn*
Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 5:52 AM
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Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 5:58 AM
I don't know in which episode it happens @ndlessjoie but I'm sure LT will tag me if she gets that far.
I'll mentally prepare to rant. Just because you got popcorn of course.
amruta1009
January 15, 2020 at 6:14 AM
Uh oh
FlyingTool
January 15, 2020 at 2:51 PM
From the perspective of my viewing history:
Naive viewer new to kdramas seeing Heirs vs
A few years of experience later viewing Vagabond,
I can say Heirs is a more coherent, better drama than Vagabond.
Midnight
January 15, 2020 at 3:33 AM
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Midnight
January 15, 2020 at 3:36 AM
The ONLY good thing I remember about this show is that Tan was often a rather decent young man. Oh, and Park Hyung Shik's hairflip!
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egads aka Dame Maggie
January 15, 2020 at 3:40 AM
Reading the recap, and I don't remember any of this at all. Am I going to have to actually shudders watch this again?
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 15, 2020 at 4:14 AM
Haven't you suffered enough?
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191 wapz
January 14, 2020 at 11:51 PM
It's strange to see comments on recaps being 600 plus when they are hardly 12 now.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 12:12 AM
I wonder what the common factor is...
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Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 1:03 AM
I was thinking something similar during my 30B17 rewatch. Even ep 1 of that got >200 comments.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 1:07 AM
Then you'll see my FINSE comments again. It was kind of fun. The FINSE.
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Cloggie
January 15, 2020 at 1:08 AM
I did! I laughed at your comment that maybe she should just end up with Chan.
I liked our FINSE community and lots of pictures of cats on fences.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 1:32 AM
Gosh that Chan comment is very funny in the context of the whole age gap conversation people are having about Touch.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 12:08 AM
Part of it is the fanwalls fault. Not much since the fanwall started has broken the red, because people spazz on the fanwall, rather than waiting for recaps.
This isn't helped by the fact that not everything is recapped, and recaps are not always prompt... and ofc the style of the recaps has changed.
But yeah... gone are the days of Scarlet Heart Ryeo and 1200 comments every recap...
that reminds me I have a list of shows with the most traffic somewhere... Because ofc I do
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192 bea
January 15, 2020 at 1:42 PM
OMG, Kang Ha-neul was in this?!?!?
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egads aka Dame Maggie
January 15, 2020 at 1:51 PM
I think everyone was in this. Well, almost everyone.
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193 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 7:44 PM
I can't believe I'm asking this but while the recap told me what the happiest word in English was, it didn't tell me the saddest and I couldn't make it out. Also I wasn't going to rewind it because I thought the recap would tell me.
Anyone know?
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Ally
January 15, 2020 at 8:02 PM
It’s probably “chaebol.”
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Rumi~
January 17, 2020 at 8:41 AM
But that's konglish.
It's probably power.
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Beverly
January 15, 2020 at 8:22 PM
You got me super curious so I scrolled through the ep. I love that Netflix let's you do that. He doesnt say what it is. I googled and it looks like the survey was only on the beautiful words.
By the way that "Lamar Odom" kid needs to meet the truck of doom.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 8:25 PM
Wow, I watched the episode on normal speed and I thought they said the saddest or least beautiful or something word. Guess I was really paying attention...
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Beverly
January 15, 2020 at 8:33 PM
I may of missed it. He lists the top 5 beautiful ones and then asks if they know the saddest word and the class calls out suggestions and it then cuts to PSH's notebook with something like Dry Cleaning written in it.
Which I'm pretty bummed when I read that in something I bought without realizing it,so....
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egads aka Dame Maggie
January 15, 2020 at 8:34 PM
For science, I fast forwarded for you.............and they didn't say, it cut to PSH reading a flash card with the words "dry clean only" in Korean and English.
Though to be honest, those are pretty sad words.
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 15, 2020 at 8:55 PM
Human Sprinkler as saddest. Sounds right.
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Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:34 PM
I wanted to know what the saddest word is, it's annoying they didn't tell us.
I think it might be Goodbye as Tan looked odd after Eun- sang (finally a name) said that to him. It will probably feature in his diary during the angst scene
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 3:39 PM
You think maybe we'll have a flashback later on when he hears the word 'goodbye' and they'll go back to this moment when he realised he never wanted her to leave and it'll all be so poignant. Definite diary material.
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Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:55 PM
Yes, there will be another manic diary writing session after an angst shower.
Or walking the streets during a rain storm
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 3:59 PM
*Can't wait for you to watch episode 3*
194 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 15, 2020 at 9:03 PM
See, it can be done. Shall we make other kdrama writers/PDs/actors study this show to see how? :)
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195 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 15, 2020 at 9:13 PM
As good a time as any to mention that Kim Mi-kyung as Mom was one of two relatively good things I recall about this show.
(The other was a "Hello Sidney" phone call much later. At least I hope it is later in this show and I'm not confusing it with another).
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 9:56 PM
Kim Mi-kyung is always good. I don't think I've ever seen her in a part she didn't nail, even if the drama was terrible.
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196 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 15, 2020 at 9:17 PM
The word you're looking for is G.A.Y.
If this was not a Korean drama, I'd have expected them to end that scene making out.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 15, 2020 at 11:43 PM
I refuse to watch, even for this.
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Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:37 PM
I know!I thought someone was going to pull the other for an intense make out session. They looked almost intimate when speaking to each other, maybe this is the only person Woo-bin can let his guard around with?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 3:41 PM
I don't like my luck but maybe they will tease some gay subtext out of this relationship. Assuming they ever get another scene together when there are 57billion characters.
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197 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 16, 2020 at 12:21 PM
@leetennant @lugirl131415 @egads @wapzy@ndlessjoie @katakwasabi @lordcobol @kethysk @parkchuna @ayaan @coffeprince4eva @frabbycrabsis @kat23 @hotcocoagirl @bcampbell1662 @ally-le @cloggie @midnight @hebang @saturtledaisy @maybemaknae @sensationalfantasy @msrabbit
... wow that's a long tag list.
Sorry guys was feeling a bit stressed and pressured to comment on here asap and couldn't deal.
I will be back I hope this evening to do a recap recap and join in the fun.
For now:
If you were gonna rewrite the first two episodes to be a) better and b) worse, what would you do?
(I mean the real question is I suppose, should one even be writing a stereotypical trope filled obnoxious angsty over dramatic candyxchaebol drama to be good at all? Would it not be better to just do something else entirely?)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM
Sorry mate this was all supposed to be fun. The last thing we want is for people to feel pressured or stressed. You're under no obligation to do a fun recap recap or anything else really.
If I had to change one thing about the first two episodes, it would be introducing 75 billionty characters and then making half of them grind out dialogue in English.
But then I still think this show is about rival drug empires and a romance between one of their children and their unwitting drug mule so...
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FlyingTool
January 16, 2020 at 11:00 PM
Use Ching Shih as a model for our mule...
The drama would show her rise from mule to The top of the drug empire, and most importantly, successfully exiting and going clean - unlike Michael Corleone.
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 16, 2020 at 11:10 PM
Your mention of Corleone makes me think of Magic Horse. 😱🐴💉
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 12:11 AM
I get the feeling EVERYTHING makes you think of Magic Horse... lol
Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 17, 2020 at 12:26 AM
Well, it IS the best thing out of that drama that shall not be remembered. Ragaz wiuld have been #1 if he didn't get such a minuscule screen time.
#MagicHorseForevah
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 12:33 AM
Oh I'm not complaining hahaha Magic Horse is love, Magic horse is lyfe, as they say ;)
Cloggie
January 16, 2020 at 3:21 PM
I think to bring the candy/chaebol genre up-to-date, it needs something else thrown into the mix.
How about candy/chaebol with zombies? I mean, if there were zombies on the horizon, wouldn't those shower scenes not just be angsty but have an additional level of potential peril?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 16, 2020 at 3:26 PM
Zombies could work as a metaphor for the drug trade as well...
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Cloggie
January 16, 2020 at 10:14 PM
A bit like Shaun of the Dead? I like it!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 16, 2020 at 10:20 PM
I just envisioned this entire plot playing out alongside the zombie apocalypse and these people being so self-absorbed they don't even notice.
Cloggie
January 16, 2020 at 11:13 PM
Alternatively, all the rich kids could turn into zombies and their parents will deny that this is happening, and still try to get them into the right schools, and run companies because they're part of the family.
Then it's up to the candy character to put an ultimate stop to this.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 12:18 AM
I think zombies would definitely make it better. Not like technically, but from a pure camp perspective yes.
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Cloggie
January 17, 2020 at 12:52 AM
Camp? Camp?
It was deep symbolism I was going for here. I even had a title: Heirs to the Kingdom .
If you think about it, it makes so much sense that the thing would practically write itself.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 1:08 AM
The devastating role of drugs in the collapse of the Confuscian contract. It's genius. Forget crime, Clogs, write this instead.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 2:27 AM
In my recap recap comment that doesn't exist I made the observation that with Zombies this could easily be Kingdom but in the modern era and it would work almost perfectly... and then dB ate my comment and won't let me post it again as the full thing.
But even though you're right, a satire / parody highly campy zombie version of heirs just sounds superior to me in every way. I'm sorry.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 2:35 AM
I just had an image of the prince in Kingdom sitting writing in his diary in some version of archaic Korean, "When I'm writing poetry, I think that I am thinking".
Cloggie
January 17, 2020 at 3:50 AM
What's interesting @leetennant is that the image I had in my mind was of Bae Doo-na and PSH as candy besties who had to take down the zombified chaebol heir horde, armed with nothing other than baseball bats - in a clear homage to search:www.
But poetry-writing princes are fine too.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:10 PM
You know, there is a simply solution to all of this, folks: why not both?
egads aka Dame Maggie
January 16, 2020 at 3:38 PM
You have absolutely no obligation to comment, recap the recap, or rewrite an entire drama.
That said, I do believe that @leetennant and @cloggie are onto something with the zombie drug empire rewrite. Zombie infection would fully explain that blonde surfer dude.
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 16, 2020 at 4:14 PM
a) Dunno how. will leave all that to @cloggie and @leetennant
I can only do
b) They both got into an experiment on cryogenic and something went wrong and they wake up 20 years later...
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 16, 2020 at 4:26 PM
*runs screaming*
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Ally
January 16, 2020 at 5:57 PM
I’d make it much worse. A farce because this is pretty close already.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 16, 2020 at 6:44 PM
Have it go full Makjangtastic a la Last Empress?
Noice.
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Ally
January 16, 2020 at 7:03 PM
PSH crying in half her scenes? Ppfffffttt! Every. Scene. Her eyes will stay blood shot and she’ll need an IV every episode to treat her dehydration.
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 16, 2020 at 11:08 PM
They are artificial tears, of course. No plant was hurt in this making of this drama.
FlyingTool
January 17, 2020 at 9:24 PM
Except that the psychotic charismatic lead should be the female lead...
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 17, 2020 at 12:15 AM
@wapzy
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
January 17, 2020 at 3:37 AM
I would like to make this drama worse by having Tan recite poems near the end of each episode, similar to Woo Bo-young in You Who Forgot Poetry, so that he can actually think while thinking when he is writing and reciting some poetry.
Eun-sang should also water her sisters, aka potted plants, so her tears will be of use.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 17, 2020 at 3:54 AM
Tan should only recite his own poems. Poems about his chaebol angsty showering self.
Wouldn't the salty tears eventually kill her sisters? Or perhaps because she cries so much, the tears are almost salt free.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
January 17, 2020 at 4:09 AM
Chaebol angsty showering self poems? I would love to hear that and see Tan thinking that he is actually thinking.
Eun-sang developed an automatic filter in her tear ducts due to releasing too much tears. She should donate her tears so people who badly need water can use them.
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Rumi~
January 17, 2020 at 8:44 AM
Ha but then people would need to filter her tears so that'll be exhausting. What if she infects the other poor non candys & turns them into human hoses too?
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM
That's it! All chaebol's should recite soliloquies in their angsty shower scenes from now on.
This is the way.
I have spoken.
Rumi~
January 17, 2020 at 8:43 AM
Tans tears would probably be acid rain. Can't be just normal salty ones, he's a repressed chaebol.
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 17, 2020 at 9:12 AM
I feel like his poems would be something deep.. like about thinking... or thinking that he is thinking... or thinking about what he thinks he is thinking... something like that.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:15 PM
“First Thoughts are the everyday thoughts. Everyone has those. Second Thoughts are the thoughts you think about the way you think. People who enjoy thinking have those. Third Thoughts are thoughts that watch the world and think all by themselves. They’re rare, and often troublesome. Listening to them is part of witchcraft.” - Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:18 PM
“First Sight means you can see what really is there, and Second Thoughts mean thinking about what you are thinking. And in Tiffany's case, there were sometimes Third Thoughts and Fourth Thoughts although these...sometimes led her to walk into doors.” - Terry Pratchett, I Shall Wear Midnight.
Although of course, Tiffany Aching is far superior to Tan in every possible way but I couldn't help but think of these quotes even if they mean something almost entirely different.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 1:20 PM
@sicarius I was thinking that too - those quotes are from the version of this show where the introspection would be good rather than hilariously shallow.
Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 17, 2020 at 1:26 PM
This is more apt for Tan.
“Stop thinking, and end your problems.”
― Lao Tzu
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:30 PM
@leetennant a version of this show that actually has something to say? And a chaebol that has even 10% of the depth Tiffany Aching does. Wouldn't that be nice.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:13 PM
Doesn't salt water kill plants...
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 1:18 PM
Pot plants are plastic plants. It's why they never grow and salt water has no effect.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 17, 2020 at 1:25 PM
Oh I thought we were gonna encourage the killing of pot plants...
Ms. Rabbit 🐇
January 17, 2020 at 1:38 PM
@sicarius That's why we melt them and turn them into sprinklers. [Doesn't make sense, I know. But hey, it's Friday!]
Rumi~
January 17, 2020 at 8:42 AM
Include me in next tag too please!
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Rumi~
January 17, 2020 at 8:47 AM
Well to make it worse, KNH in 2020 would ofc be the gay serial killer because SK hates & wants to use them both for entertainment without any proper resolution to either.
All that weight of perfection should give birth to a sociopath, right? RIGHT?
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Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:47 PM
No pressure at all, you don't need to write a recap or watch immediately.
At the moment Tan seems to be very kind other than the light facebook stalking and staring.
I would change the number of characters introduced.
I would have a monologue of tan's life, without the random beach surfing scene. Him going to class, hanging with friends and then when he is home, you see his facade drop and how lonely he is.
The same thing with Eun-sang and the events that led them to meet outside the coffee shop.
His surfer friend needs to go and I wanted a better confrontation between eun-sang and her sister.
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Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:51 PM
Oh just read up, another vote for the zombie heirs and poetry angst showers!
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198 Rumi~
January 17, 2020 at 9:05 AM
Me reading the comments going, oh you American hate how your country is stereotyped while you just went ahead & stereotyped another country in your comment? Yeah no wonder the commentators had so much fun reading the comments instead of the show.
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199 Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:04 PM
This seems more like twilight every minute, stop creeping Tan, blink.
Who on earth keeps canned sweetcorn in the fridge? WHO??
Who are all these people and why should we care about them! There are too many characters, does park shin hye's character even have a name? What about woo-bin?
Lamar odom is two words! I don't know what that is?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 3:06 PM
I think it was expired canned sweetcorn too...
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Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:28 PM
Gross, Its probably been there since tan came to the US.
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200 Ayan
January 17, 2020 at 3:22 PM
I like rachel- her sullen expression is matching mine. Maybe she is awakening to the idea she is side character and wants to beat the writer like Dan-oh?
Woo bin's character is such a jerk in this, is there any redemption for him? I feel like he should be expelled or in juvie by now.
Woah kim haneul is this? He looks so young!
For a minute I thought he was headed to woo bin's room for a bathroom hook-up.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 17, 2020 at 3:23 PM
ME TOO. See above.
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