Celebrities worldwide are hounded and surely suffer a lot of non-job related stress but the Korean celebrities seem to be stressed ×1000 times more. Why aren’t more people emphasizing on mental health support for them. The punishment he had to undergo and probably what his family will have to undergo their entire lives is heartbreaking. Surely that is not commensurate to the alleged “crimes”.
Imagine someone as famous as him wanting to end his own life in a car park like this. He must have been at the point of no return. The price of fame is way too much of a burden to carry in SK 🙁
Unpopular opinion…(and it looks like I have had too many unpopular opinions these days) I really liked the core story of Moon in the Day. Was it perfect? No. Could some parts have been done better? Absolutely. But I liked that the writers didn’t force them to be together in the end. I think it was done very well! 👏🏽
I’m glad you liked it. ^^
I enjoyed this show too.
It was cute, it made me laugh, and maybe it’s because it didn’t try too hard to be cool or something, but I also didn’t try too hard to think about it and it’s problems. It was consistent in its craziness.
And it made me earn a bean! That’s a lot more of other 30 shows I tried to watch this year. Or even better I watched it finished it, and didn’t hate myself for it. That’s just perfection in vocabulary.
—I just finished Soundtrack #2 so I’m a little salty about annoying endings. LOL sorry.
I hope you enjoy it!
I started it yesterday (or maybe two/three days ago), and I watched the four episodes in one sitting. Today (yesterday) we had the last two.
I have not watched it yet – but I’ll keep your words in mind when I do & see whether I agree.
I agree, however, that not forcing people to be together should also be an option as long as it makes sense and is well executed.
It’s a completely different drama and plot, but this reminds me of Possessed where there is no happy ending for nobody, but in the midst of it all, the lonely paths they end up choosing (being pushed into) are all the more meaningful. And this also did not need a happy ending because the story never called for it (we, viewers, did, but that’s not the narrative’s problem)
But we do have a happy ending here. More like a satisfying closure. You need to see it to understand it I guess. I don’t want to spoil it more for you! Watch it!
want to start but I have G-KW and SH2 and they go slow I want to finish first and binge later. Plus My Demon which I should have binged later bc its a pain to wait
I am looking at all of your love in the fan walls and I am trying to understand why I am feeling the opposite. I am really ‘meh’ about My Demon. I feel the only plus is all the pretty. They are very pleasing to the eyes BUT I JUST DONT SEE ANY CHEMISTRY!!! Help me!!!!
They look like cousins. Song Kang was fire in Nevertheless even though I didn’t like the drama as such and I have liked our heroine paired up with everyone she was worked with except for in Rookie. I just don’t see it! Help me see it!!! Jebal!!!
Once you see family I’m not sure you can ever go back, lol.
To me they don’t look alike so that helps.
I just completely believe that they both see each other as very attractive. It started with our FL and the way she would look at him even when he was being jerk. I just believed she thought he’s an ass, but also damn he is hot. She looked at him like he could get it. 🤷♀️
He of course just saw her as a pesky human and was above all that. Then it turned sweet. He is definitely playing it like he thinks she is lovely. But also he just glows when she shows up, like a plant turning towards the sun. And now all the skinship he does.
I just realized they took two different paths. She liked him physically first and now emotionally and he liked her emotionally first and now physically.
I’m having trouble mustering any enthusiasm to start it. The recap and early comments didn’t make it sound appealing. I might try waiting a couple weeks, skipping the episodes and just reading recaps, and then dive in.
Grandpa needed a nap…
I’ll watch the first episode of ‘healing/jeju island/village is best’ drama 😴 😴
Not saying anything bad, pure coincidence, gramps was tired.
It sounds like I’m not the only one who didn’t like Our Blues?! I’m having trouble starting Samdalri t too and keep putting it off. But I think it’s more about new drama fatigue than anything else.
I don’t particularly mind the theme of the healing village in dramas. In real life not so much. While I would love to live in such a picturesque place, the constant nosiness of the neighbors would drive me up the wall. I’d probably escape to the city to get some peace and quite.
I am looking forward to Samdalri though because of the leads. Haven’t started it yet since I was waiting for CD to finish.
I dropped Our Blues because it was too heavy for me at the time. Hope Samdalri is lighter.
Yes! I simply cannot keep track of what’s going on. There are a couple of scenes I’ve rewatched two or three times and I still don’t understand what happened – the Joseon flashback, for example. And the show is (so far) not worth that effort, so I don’t know why I bother.
Same. I don’t find it disjointed but rather bland. Towards the end of episode 2 the leads showed some good moments. Other than that it’s really – just there. Like someone is going through the motions directing a show.
I might watch another episode when bored just for the leads and see if their interactions are any good.
It should have been a drop at Ep 1
If I could I would change Perfect Marriage Revenge to ‘Satisfaction Guaranteed!’. I don’t think I have ever been this satisfied with the cumappence of the villains! So so so entertaining!
I wouldn’t recommend this show to anyone 🙈. I found it too low-budget (at least apparently). In Spain we say “cutre” when a TV show is a cheap production and it’s noticeable, but I can’t find a proper word in English. I mean… I’m totally ok with low budget shows if the script and acting are good, and director pays attention to the details (details which usually provide quality to k-dramas and here they are conspicuous by their absence). But if you love soap operas and makjangs and you don’t mind them being a little cheesy, then you can give it a try and you will probably like it. Many beanies loved it 🙂
I was ready to enjoy this drama, but I couldn’t.
I’m glad you enjoyed it! ☺️ For me… this has been the most painful way of earning a bean (at least there were only twelve episodes).
Now I guess I’m prepared to resist FOMO when all the beanies start to talk about Marry my husband. I like the cast, at least I know all of them (PMR was full of actors I didn’t know), but I should avoid the makjang genre.
This is the other end of the spectrum for sure, but I will give it a chance. Of course one’s genre and acting biases influences one’s enjoyment or lack thereof. I can’t recommend Behind Your Touch, for example , but I am not sorry I watched it. Thanks for the input, Beanies!
I wonder how they film those underwater scenes that we keep on seeing on each and every drama nowadays. Of course I know it’s cgi (duh!) but how do they create those sequences? Do the actors jump from a cliff while being filmed? 😂
Here’s the BTS for the first part of the underwater scene in Park’s Marriage Contract – although the logistics of this is much easier than a cliff dive I guess because its a pool:
Because K-dramas usually film these scenes in actual water, I assumed that’s how they always work, but then I watched behind the scenes videos of some C-dramas and learned they put their actors up on wires and blow really big fans on them, then add CGI!! Now when I see these scenes, I’m like is this real? Is anything real?? 🧐 Lol, but K-dramas still go for authenticity and film them in surprisingly small pools, like in the videos other Beanies linked 😊
Don’t get me wrong Castaway Diva is nice and endearing but it all seems like fantasy to me. First of all 15 years is a long long time! Too long to live on your own as a young person. And as a former singer I know how important it is to ‘work’ on your voice. Not once have we seen a vision of her singing on that island. How did she retain this gift living in those hard conditions? How come she has acclimated to living normally so easily? And why doesn’t the vision of the sea/ocean traumatise her? Why doesn’t the thought of eating potatoes make her barf? Why isn’t she in therapy? It’s way too unreal to enjoy with a logical head.
15 years: Way to long
I suggested she swam ashore with her guitar in a case.
Her playing was inspired by sea and wind .😀
Her singing was inspired by screeching seagulls, (think Yoko Ono) ☹️
It is best not to think too much about her island life 😂
Well, it is fantasy (I think Park Eunbin explicitly said something like that too xD ..I need to look that up), it’s not real, and it almost feels like a fairytale sometimes lol
The list of unrealistic things and unlikely scenarios is really long, but the story still works for many. Of course it’s not gonna be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s ok 🙂
I’m all for the fairy tale . Her breakout performance on stage was wonderful .
Show needs to get rid of Psycho Dad… Please… 🐗 Maybe a wild boar will get him !
😂 It hasn’t been a good year for CGI animals in kdrama.
I understand it’s supposed to be a fantasy, but one of my biggest issues with it is that it’s not fantasy enough. There’s far too much real-world context that drags down the quasi-magical elements so that they just seem unrealistic rather than imaginative.
I just reimagined this as similar to the Wizard of Oz , when Dorothy wakes up and sees everyone .. You were there ! And you !
It was all just a dream …. Or was it.
Hey, I get it…it can feel like they’re trying to do both, be grounded and realistic while painting some pretty unlikely scenarios at the same time.
The point is that different people can perceive the same story in different ways.
For me personally this balance is just right and I’m enjoying it immensely!! I don’t mind some aspects of the story that are potentially unrealistic because I am invested in the characters enough to forgive those minor (for me) details. For others it is different, I got that now ahah!
P.S. There is one thing I wanna say in favor of the drama, regardless of preference, and it’s the fact that it’s been consistent since day 1 with it’s themes and tone, it’s not like it suddenly changed midway.
Since the first episode we were shown a juxtaposition of the carefree life of the teen protagonists (Mokha shooting her MV felt very dream like, to me), with the abuse they were experiencing on the side. Maybe it was too good on its own and it made some viewers get their expectations too high for the following episodes? Not sure xD
@johnb
Don’t even say it!! “while you were sleeping part 2” xD
The thought crossed my mind! What if this is all a product of Mokha’s brain after spending time alone for far too long?!?! Then at the end she wakes up and it was all a dream?!! Or maybe Kiho’s dream, because of how much he misses her! I would riot with such a twist!! lmao
Speaking of unrealistic ahahah!!
The trick for me is suspension of disbelief with the plot premise even before diving in. How different can this fantasy wirh reality elements is with for example, a story about a human turning into a dog when kissed? That has unbelievable plot premise with elements of reality too but I see no one raising an issue about it. What about superstrong families, or ability to go back in time to 1995? That castaway island is just exactly like that.
The real life elements are too real to be fantasy. Time travelling/ghosts and vampires/magic are not real. Being stranded on an island for 15 years is very much real. That FedEx guy.
People. Please stop insulting fantasy. Fantasy has rules and logic. The premise and the place and the creatures might be different in that genre but they still exist inside a logical universe.
Yes, fantasy is different because dragons and fairies and magic spells don’t exist in real life, at all.
This is not fantasy because it’s still possible for everything that has happened to actually happen in the world we live in.
Is it unlikely? A lot of times yes, but still possible.
What I find most unbelievable is that she has no problems with a large gathering of people. I’m sure that after 15 years on a desert island, I would feel uncomfortable if there were suddenly so many people around me and so many noises and other sensory impressions were bombarding me.
As a singer: Honestly, this may sound awful but imo Lee Re is a better singer than Park Eun-bin so it works for me: her voice is good, but not as good as it used to be. I think it’s more fakey that she got as good as she did living with an abusive and clearly unsupportive father who I doubt would shell out money for voice lessons, in the first place.
As a psychologist: it does require suspension of disbelief (I personally think that the drama has consistent internal rules even if they don’t match up with reality, like Lelly said), but people are pretty resilient. She wouldn’t necessarily have long-standing psychopathology or PTSD symptoms just because she experienced a traumatic thing; PTSD is actually the more rare response.
I remember as a child I had jaundice once and my mum would cook this fish thing without spices to feed me (apparently it was good for me). I think I had jaundice for 2 weeks, maybe? I was 14 at that time and I am almost 41 and I still haven’t touched that popular fish. It’s definitely not PTSD. It’s just that I avoid that memory.
15 years alone in a deserted island. Unless she got truly comfortable with her surrounding I don’t see how she is flaring so well in real life.
Oh wow. I had jaundice for a long time and they used to give me fresh sugarcane juice. Till today I can’t drink that juice. Just the thought of it makes me nauseous.
listen, the only fantasy in there is a 31 year old getting a break from top agencies that too in the cut throat idol competition… and a much bigger fantasy is die hard fans waiting for a newbie
I did find this bit comical too! Then again, I feel like maybe soloists play by separate rules to idols, especially in terms of the age thing. Like if you debut as a soloist and you’re a pretty strong performer you’ve got a reasonably steady future vs members in an idol group who have to fight against time to establish the group & themselves or they run the risk of fizzling out when newer groups come in.
Admittedly I don’t know much about the S Korean entertainment industry, but it probably helps that she has a gimmick (feels awful to reduce her experience to that, but that’s showbiz I guess)
There are more exciting reveals in upcoming episodes.
I didn’t want to say anything that may ruin it for you. I was just being careful. 😊
PMR is my current fave and hope you continue to enjoy it!
I have fallen (belatedly) in love with Moving for now. But Moon in the Day is on my must-watch list. I just haven’t got to it yet. How good is it so far?
Also…. This could be because I am spending hours watching and ranting/commenting on Perfect Marriage Revenge (and nothing is more irritating to me that wanting to rant and actually not finding any grounds for it…) This sounds like a silly excuse but it’s around 3 hours watch for 2 episodes and probably another 3 to shape up my thoughts. It’s a humongous amount of time in my already-packed-with-lots-of-other-shits week!
But give me a few weeks and I’ll join you watching MinD!
Looks like I have many dramas to watch – Moon in the Day, The Matchmakers, Castaway Diva, Live your Own Life, Daily Dose of Sunshine, Good a day to be dog…speaking off what’s happening with Good Day? Did they cancel? Why are there fewer episodes?
It is one episode a week and it has been cancelled twice due to other events. Hopefully from next week it will be back on its slow and steady once a week drop schedule.
I wish the schedule was 2 episodes before the bye week . happy compromise !
That would shorten the run and still may require exemption for events?
Aigoo. Unfortunate draw of the straw . It’s a cute show. Probably be ideal to binge watch once it is over.
1. Roowon nailed the wailing scenes.
2. Hong Jo is stooopiddd.
3. Manager Ma is not nice me thinks.
4. Guess the parents looked this young because they ARE young.
Wasn’t Mom an actress before she got married? Maybe she was a child actress, got married and had SY at 20-21, he’s now 28 (that’s the youngest I can make him with law school and a bit of working experience) and she’s now 48-49. There’s certainly precedent for this type of geriatric pregnancy fantasy in Kdrama – the Hong Sisters, for example, have at least twice had a 50-year-old character get pregnant.
This has been another edition of Elinor Overthinks Things.
Watching a love sick Shin Yu was the only good thing about this noble idiocy breakup route the storyline took. He better be okay next episode otherwise I swear to god….
Also what is the actual purpose of having those two terrible co-workers? Comedic relief? Scene filler? Minor antagonists? Because all that they are doing is inducing rage and creating unnecessary thoughts of violence..
no literally SAME on both fronts – I’m super glad that it was the ending to ep 13 and not ep 14 because then we’d have to wait a whole week to find out 🤡
I am wondering if they will serve a big purpose later or if it is more a case of tension relief; like those little abstract drawings at the end of chapters in books. You can look at them absent-mindedly to soothe your brain until the actual drama starts again.
I dunno. I didn’t hear noble idiocy. I can see where you’re coming from @coffeprince4eva but, I sort of believed that she actually started not to want to be around him…
Well, there’s a limit to everyone’s patience and they’re simply a NIGHTMARE. Go ahead, they so deserve it. God knows how many characters I’ve cursed not to mention secretly killed in my mind over the years.😄😄😄
In 12 I finally started to see them in a new way, which is to pity those poor actresses for having to portray two such petty, immature, unprofessional, senseless and shrewish characters! But if they ended up in a deep pit I’d help shovel dirt over them.
RenOIshi
December 26, 2023 at 8:09 PM
I cannot believe it! Another cancel culture victim? And someone as brilliant and profound as him? My heart can’t take it…
mugyuljoie is preciousss
December 26, 2023 at 9:14 PM
This is unbelievable.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 26, 2023 at 9:47 PM
Celebrities worldwide are hounded and surely suffer a lot of non-job related stress but the Korean celebrities seem to be stressed ×1000 times more. Why aren’t more people emphasizing on mental health support for them. The punishment he had to undergo and probably what his family will have to undergo their entire lives is heartbreaking. Surely that is not commensurate to the alleged “crimes”.
RenOIshi
December 26, 2023 at 10:05 PM
Imagine someone as famous as him wanting to end his own life in a car park like this. He must have been at the point of no return. The price of fame is way too much of a burden to carry in SK 🙁
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 26, 2023 at 10:55 PM
He was a grown man, in the industry for more than 20 years … still no one was able to reach out to him. Too much of a burden indeed.
RenOIshi
December 20, 2023 at 11:00 PM
Unpopular opinion…(and it looks like I have had too many unpopular opinions these days) I really liked the core story of Moon in the Day. Was it perfect? No. Could some parts have been done better? Absolutely. But I liked that the writers didn’t force them to be together in the end. I think it was done very well! 👏🏽
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 20, 2023 at 11:45 PM
I’m in the mood to earn another bean. 14 hours is less than two work days, right … right?
lapislazulii
December 20, 2023 at 11:58 PM
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 21, 2023 at 12:16 AM
Is it friday already !! 🤣
lapislazulii
December 21, 2023 at 12:33 AM
so closeee – almost there!!
tabong has two different tears🍉
December 21, 2023 at 12:39 AM
I’m glad you liked it. ^^
I enjoyed this show too.
It was cute, it made me laugh, and maybe it’s because it didn’t try too hard to be cool or something, but I also didn’t try too hard to think about it and it’s problems. It was consistent in its craziness.
And it made me earn a bean! That’s a lot more of other 30 shows I tried to watch this year. Or even better I watched it finished it, and didn’t hate myself for it. That’s just perfection in vocabulary.
—I just finished Soundtrack #2 so I’m a little salty about annoying endings. LOL sorry.
RenOIshi
December 21, 2023 at 12:52 AM
Just started Soundtrack 2!! I was able to watch 20 mins before real life took over but I think I will go back to it!
tabong has two different tears🍉
December 21, 2023 at 12:57 AM
I hope you enjoy it!
I started it yesterday (or maybe two/three days ago), and I watched the four episodes in one sitting. Today (yesterday) we had the last two.
Cecee
December 21, 2023 at 5:37 AM
I have not watched it yet – but I’ll keep your words in mind when I do & see whether I agree.
I agree, however, that not forcing people to be together should also be an option as long as it makes sense and is well executed.
It’s a completely different drama and plot, but this reminds me of Possessed where there is no happy ending for nobody, but in the midst of it all, the lonely paths they end up choosing (being pushed into) are all the more meaningful. And this also did not need a happy ending because the story never called for it (we, viewers, did, but that’s not the narrative’s problem)
RenOIshi
December 21, 2023 at 4:02 PM
But we do have a happy ending here. More like a satisfying closure. You need to see it to understand it I guess. I don’t want to spoil it more for you! Watch it!
RenOIshi
December 19, 2023 at 7:46 PM
Called in sick at work and binged part 1 of Deaths Game in one sitting!!! So entertaining!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 19, 2023 at 8:49 PM
That is the ONLY way to utilize sick leave!! 🤭 👏
redfox
December 20, 2023 at 4:10 AM
want to start but I have G-KW and SH2 and they go slow I want to finish first and binge later. Plus My Demon which I should have binged later bc its a pain to wait
Cecee
December 21, 2023 at 6:02 AM
Brings joy to sick days!
RenOIshi
December 18, 2023 at 7:58 PM
I am looking at all of your love in the fan walls and I am trying to understand why I am feeling the opposite. I am really ‘meh’ about My Demon. I feel the only plus is all the pretty. They are very pleasing to the eyes BUT I JUST DONT SEE ANY CHEMISTRY!!! Help me!!!!
They look like cousins. Song Kang was fire in Nevertheless even though I didn’t like the drama as such and I have liked our heroine paired up with everyone she was worked with except for in Rookie. I just don’t see it! Help me see it!!! Jebal!!!
Beverly
December 18, 2023 at 9:38 PM
Once you see family I’m not sure you can ever go back, lol.
To me they don’t look alike so that helps.
I just completely believe that they both see each other as very attractive. It started with our FL and the way she would look at him even when he was being jerk. I just believed she thought he’s an ass, but also damn he is hot. She looked at him like he could get it. 🤷♀️
He of course just saw her as a pesky human and was above all that. Then it turned sweet. He is definitely playing it like he thinks she is lovely. But also he just glows when she shows up, like a plant turning towards the sun. And now all the skinship he does.
I just realized they took two different paths. She liked him physically first and now emotionally and he liked her emotionally first and now physically.
RenOIshi
December 18, 2023 at 10:42 PM
Hmm maybe I should rewatch their scenes. I don’t know. I just don’t feel that spark.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 18, 2023 at 10:58 PM
^^ +1
Guess its not possible to go back after you think of them as siblings.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 18, 2023 at 10:57 PM
Wow you analytical skills are 🔥
Dramaforever
December 18, 2023 at 11:29 PM
I love how you described it.. made me all excited about them even though I am already loving them and their chemistry
RenOIshi
December 6, 2023 at 3:21 PM
I know I should probably give SamDal a try but I also don’t want to be associated with ‘healing/jeju island/village is best’ dramas…what a dilemma…
Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
December 6, 2023 at 3:40 PM
I’m having trouble mustering any enthusiasm to start it. The recap and early comments didn’t make it sound appealing. I might try waiting a couple weeks, skipping the episodes and just reading recaps, and then dive in.
john
December 6, 2023 at 3:50 PM
Grandpa needed a nap…
I’ll watch the first episode of ‘healing/jeju island/village is best’ drama 😴 😴
Not saying anything bad, pure coincidence, gramps was tired.
zindigo
December 6, 2023 at 5:50 PM
It sounds like I’m not the only one who didn’t like Our Blues?! I’m having trouble starting Samdalri t too and keep putting it off. But I think it’s more about new drama fatigue than anything else.
RenOIshi
December 6, 2023 at 6:26 PM
Yeah Our Blues was a quick drop for me.
MJ
December 6, 2023 at 10:43 PM
I don’t particularly mind the theme of the healing village in dramas. In real life not so much. While I would love to live in such a picturesque place, the constant nosiness of the neighbors would drive me up the wall. I’d probably escape to the city to get some peace and quite.
I am looking forward to Samdalri though because of the leads. Haven’t started it yet since I was waiting for CD to finish.
I dropped Our Blues because it was too heavy for me at the time. Hope Samdalri is lighter.
Isa is always time travelling
December 7, 2023 at 3:11 AM
New drama fatigue definitely is my case.
RenOIshi
December 4, 2023 at 11:24 PM
Why is My man is Cupid so disjointed? I can’t make sense of it. Anyone else on the same boat?
Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
December 4, 2023 at 11:34 PM
Yes! I simply cannot keep track of what’s going on. There are a couple of scenes I’ve rewatched two or three times and I still don’t understand what happened – the Joseon flashback, for example. And the show is (so far) not worth that effort, so I don’t know why I bother.
RenOIshi
December 5, 2023 at 2:59 AM
Hmm. I think I will drop it.
Blue (@mayhemf)
December 5, 2023 at 5:17 AM
Same. I don’t find it disjointed but rather bland. Towards the end of episode 2 the leads showed some good moments. Other than that it’s really – just there. Like someone is going through the motions directing a show.
I might watch another episode when bored just for the leads and see if their interactions are any good.
It should have been a drop at Ep 1
RenOIshi
December 4, 2023 at 9:31 PM
If I could I would change Perfect Marriage Revenge to ‘Satisfaction Guaranteed!’. I don’t think I have ever been this satisfied with the cumappence of the villains! So so so entertaining!
owl 🦉 🫰
December 4, 2023 at 9:35 PM
This us good to know, a beanie recommendation is worth a lot to me when deciding which K dramas to watch that I haven’t yet seen.
RenOIshi
December 4, 2023 at 11:26 PM
I didn’t expect to enjoy it so much. It is so fast paced! Conflict. Resolution. Conflict. Resolution! The best!!!
Isa is always time travelling
December 5, 2023 at 1:28 AM
I wouldn’t recommend this show to anyone 🙈. I found it too low-budget (at least apparently). In Spain we say “cutre” when a TV show is a cheap production and it’s noticeable, but I can’t find a proper word in English. I mean… I’m totally ok with low budget shows if the script and acting are good, and director pays attention to the details (details which usually provide quality to k-dramas and here they are conspicuous by their absence). But if you love soap operas and makjangs and you don’t mind them being a little cheesy, then you can give it a try and you will probably like it. Many beanies loved it 🙂
I was ready to enjoy this drama, but I couldn’t.
RenOIshi
December 5, 2023 at 3:52 AM
I understand what you mean. I wouldn’t say that this is in my top list but this was surely the most enjoyable satisfying drama I have ever watched!
Isa is always time travelling
December 5, 2023 at 5:35 AM
I’m glad you enjoyed it! ☺️ For me… this has been the most painful way of earning a bean (at least there were only twelve episodes).
Now I guess I’m prepared to resist FOMO when all the beanies start to talk about Marry my husband. I like the cast, at least I know all of them (PMR was full of actors I didn’t know), but I should avoid the makjang genre.
owl 🦉 🫰
December 5, 2023 at 8:15 AM
This is the other end of the spectrum for sure, but I will give it a chance. Of course one’s genre and acting biases influences one’s enjoyment or lack thereof. I can’t recommend Behind Your Touch, for example , but I am not sorry I watched it. Thanks for the input, Beanies!
RenOIshi
November 28, 2023 at 7:20 PM
I wonder how they film those underwater scenes that we keep on seeing on each and every drama nowadays. Of course I know it’s cgi (duh!) but how do they create those sequences? Do the actors jump from a cliff while being filmed? 😂
DancingEmma
November 28, 2023 at 7:28 PM
I’d like to know too.
john
November 28, 2023 at 7:51 PM
Gah, a Beanie posted a video that showed them filming for The Matchmaker
RenOIshi
November 28, 2023 at 10:54 PM
Oh! I’d like to see that!!!
Kurama
November 28, 2023 at 11:56 PM
Here, the making of for the Matchmakers :
https://youtu.be/uKVzEK4J0I8?feature=shared&t=260
lapislazulii
November 29, 2023 at 12:13 AM
Here’s the BTS for the first part of the underwater scene in Park’s Marriage Contract – although the logistics of this is much easier than a cliff dive I guess because its a pool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Any1CZJLflU
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦆❤️🦆
November 29, 2023 at 3:21 AM
Because K-dramas usually film these scenes in actual water, I assumed that’s how they always work, but then I watched behind the scenes videos of some C-dramas and learned they put their actors up on wires and blow really big fans on them, then add CGI!! Now when I see these scenes, I’m like is this real? Is anything real?? 🧐 Lol, but K-dramas still go for authenticity and film them in surprisingly small pools, like in the videos other Beanies linked 😊
RenOIshi
November 29, 2023 at 5:34 AM
They look so ‘dry’ under water though. How? Lol
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦆❤️🦆
November 29, 2023 at 6:35 AM
I know!!! It’s like some weird magic… 🌊✨️
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
November 30, 2023 at 1:49 PM
They’re usually a combination of both. And you don’t actually look wet underwater.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 3:16 AM
Don’t get me wrong Castaway Diva is nice and endearing but it all seems like fantasy to me. First of all 15 years is a long long time! Too long to live on your own as a young person. And as a former singer I know how important it is to ‘work’ on your voice. Not once have we seen a vision of her singing on that island. How did she retain this gift living in those hard conditions? How come she has acclimated to living normally so easily? And why doesn’t the vision of the sea/ocean traumatise her? Why doesn’t the thought of eating potatoes make her barf? Why isn’t she in therapy? It’s way too unreal to enjoy with a logical head.
john
November 21, 2023 at 4:50 AM
15 years: Way to long
I suggested she swam ashore with her guitar in a case.
Her playing was inspired by sea and wind .😀
Her singing was inspired by screeching seagulls, (think Yoko Ono) ☹️
It is best not to think too much about her island life 😂
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 5:08 AM
Well, it is fantasy (I think Park Eunbin explicitly said something like that too xD ..I need to look that up), it’s not real, and it almost feels like a fairytale sometimes lol
The list of unrealistic things and unlikely scenarios is really long, but the story still works for many. Of course it’s not gonna be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s ok 🙂
john
November 21, 2023 at 5:39 AM
I’m all for the fairy tale . Her breakout performance on stage was wonderful .
Show needs to get rid of Psycho Dad… Please… 🐗 Maybe a wild boar will get him !
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 6:03 AM
Wild boar of Doom xD
Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
November 21, 2023 at 7:41 AM
😂 It hasn’t been a good year for CGI animals in kdrama.
I understand it’s supposed to be a fantasy, but one of my biggest issues with it is that it’s not fantasy enough. There’s far too much real-world context that drags down the quasi-magical elements so that they just seem unrealistic rather than imaginative.
john
November 21, 2023 at 7:48 AM
I just reimagined this as similar to the Wizard of Oz , when Dorothy wakes up and sees everyone .. You were there ! And you !
It was all just a dream …. Or was it.
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 9:21 AM
Hey, I get it…it can feel like they’re trying to do both, be grounded and realistic while painting some pretty unlikely scenarios at the same time.
The point is that different people can perceive the same story in different ways.
For me personally this balance is just right and I’m enjoying it immensely!! I don’t mind some aspects of the story that are potentially unrealistic because I am invested in the characters enough to forgive those minor (for me) details. For others it is different, I got that now ahah!
P.S. There is one thing I wanna say in favor of the drama, regardless of preference, and it’s the fact that it’s been consistent since day 1 with it’s themes and tone, it’s not like it suddenly changed midway.
Since the first episode we were shown a juxtaposition of the carefree life of the teen protagonists (Mokha shooting her MV felt very dream like, to me), with the abuse they were experiencing on the side. Maybe it was too good on its own and it made some viewers get their expectations too high for the following episodes? Not sure xD
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 9:27 AM
@johnb
Don’t even say it!! “while you were sleeping part 2” xD
The thought crossed my mind! What if this is all a product of Mokha’s brain after spending time alone for far too long?!?! Then at the end she wakes up and it was all a dream?!! Or maybe Kiho’s dream, because of how much he misses her! I would riot with such a twist!! lmao
Speaking of unrealistic ahahah!!
Jingbee
November 21, 2023 at 12:46 PM
The trick for me is suspension of disbelief with the plot premise even before diving in. How different can this fantasy wirh reality elements is with for example, a story about a human turning into a dog when kissed? That has unbelievable plot premise with elements of reality too but I see no one raising an issue about it. What about superstrong families, or ability to go back in time to 1995? That castaway island is just exactly like that.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 1:32 PM
The real life elements are too real to be fantasy. Time travelling/ghosts and vampires/magic are not real. Being stranded on an island for 15 years is very much real. That FedEx guy.
Lixie
November 21, 2023 at 5:38 AM
People. Please stop insulting fantasy. Fantasy has rules and logic. The premise and the place and the creatures might be different in that genre but they still exist inside a logical universe.
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 6:02 AM
Yes, fantasy is different because dragons and fairies and magic spells don’t exist in real life, at all.
This is not fantasy because it’s still possible for everything that has happened to actually happen in the world we live in.
Is it unlikely? A lot of times yes, but still possible.
That’s my take at least 🙈
Lelly19
November 21, 2023 at 6:03 AM
I believe it’s “fantasy” in the same way that winning the lottery and being set for life is fantasy, if you want 😁
Nefret
November 21, 2023 at 7:30 AM
What I find most unbelievable is that she has no problems with a large gathering of people. I’m sure that after 15 years on a desert island, I would feel uncomfortable if there were suddenly so many people around me and so many noises and other sensory impressions were bombarding me.
vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 7:58 AM
As a singer: Honestly, this may sound awful but imo Lee Re is a better singer than Park Eun-bin so it works for me: her voice is good, but not as good as it used to be. I think it’s more fakey that she got as good as she did living with an abusive and clearly unsupportive father who I doubt would shell out money for voice lessons, in the first place.
As a psychologist: it does require suspension of disbelief (I personally think that the drama has consistent internal rules even if they don’t match up with reality, like Lelly said), but people are pretty resilient. She wouldn’t necessarily have long-standing psychopathology or PTSD symptoms just because she experienced a traumatic thing; PTSD is actually the more rare response.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 1:29 PM
I remember as a child I had jaundice once and my mum would cook this fish thing without spices to feed me (apparently it was good for me). I think I had jaundice for 2 weeks, maybe? I was 14 at that time and I am almost 41 and I still haven’t touched that popular fish. It’s definitely not PTSD. It’s just that I avoid that memory.
15 years alone in a deserted island. Unless she got truly comfortable with her surrounding I don’t see how she is flaring so well in real life.
Blue (@mayhemf)
November 21, 2023 at 3:14 PM
Oh wow. I had jaundice for a long time and they used to give me fresh sugarcane juice. Till today I can’t drink that juice. Just the thought of it makes me nauseous.
RenOIshi
November 21, 2023 at 5:16 PM
I know right!
alasecond
November 21, 2023 at 8:30 AM
listen, the only fantasy in there is a 31 year old getting a break from top agencies that too in the cut throat idol competition… and a much bigger fantasy is die hard fans waiting for a newbie
😛
lapislazulii
November 21, 2023 at 1:11 PM
I did find this bit comical too! Then again, I feel like maybe soloists play by separate rules to idols, especially in terms of the age thing. Like if you debut as a soloist and you’re a pretty strong performer you’ve got a reasonably steady future vs members in an idol group who have to fight against time to establish the group & themselves or they run the risk of fizzling out when newer groups come in.
vienibenmio
November 21, 2023 at 1:45 PM
Admittedly I don’t know much about the S Korean entertainment industry, but it probably helps that she has a gimmick (feels awful to reduce her experience to that, but that’s showbiz I guess)
alasecond
November 22, 2023 at 4:53 PM
voting*
RenOIshi
November 18, 2023 at 2:56 AM
I just want Han Yi Joo to win. Not setbacks. Only win.
RenOIshi
November 17, 2023 at 4:17 AM
OoooMmmmmGeeeee! Perfect Marriage Revenge…HOOKED! I AM TOTALLY HOOKED!!! 🎉
Seon-ha
November 17, 2023 at 4:28 AM
Right? Here’s the main post for the Fan Wall Challenge…join in! Enjoy the DOZENS of hilarious posts!
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/attiton/activity/1479072/#
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦆❤️🦆
November 17, 2023 at 4:29 AM
So glad you’re enjoying it!!!😁😁😁👍
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 17, 2023 at 5:26 AM
Welcome to the party!! 🥳
Blue (@mayhemf)
November 17, 2023 at 6:51 AM
That is the only way! To be hooked!
it’s just amazing. And the beanie love and fan wall discussions make it so much more fun.
RenOIshi
November 17, 2023 at 10:04 AM
I am trying to catch up ASAP!!!
RenOIshi
November 16, 2023 at 2:27 AM
In Perfect Marriage that woman is her step mother right? She can’t be the real one can she? Please someone tell me! On ep 1 currently.
jillian
November 16, 2023 at 2:36 AM
If you meant Jung Hye, she is not Yi Joo’s real mother.
RenOIshi
November 16, 2023 at 2:42 AM
Phew! So the sister is her half sister, right?
jillian
November 16, 2023 at 2:59 AM
Do you really want a spoiler?
RenOIshi
November 16, 2023 at 3:23 AM
My heart was so angry for her that I was dying for a spoiler! Don’t worry I just finished ep 1 and I have all my answers 😁
jillian
November 16, 2023 at 3:37 AM
There are more exciting reveals in upcoming episodes.
I didn’t want to say anything that may ruin it for you. I was just being careful. 😊
PMR is my current fave and hope you continue to enjoy it!
RenOIshi
November 10, 2023 at 4:18 AM
I am actually liking Moon in the Day. It’s different…nice even…who else is watching?
Cecee
November 10, 2023 at 7:07 AM
I have fallen (belatedly) in love with Moving for now. But Moon in the Day is on my must-watch list. I just haven’t got to it yet. How good is it so far?
Also…. This could be because I am spending hours watching and ranting/commenting on Perfect Marriage Revenge (and nothing is more irritating to me that wanting to rant and actually not finding any grounds for it…) This sounds like a silly excuse but it’s around 3 hours watch for 2 episodes and probably another 3 to shape up my thoughts. It’s a humongous amount of time in my already-packed-with-lots-of-other-shits week!
But give me a few weeks and I’ll join you watching MinD!
RenOIshi
November 10, 2023 at 8:35 PM
Ahhh! Perfect Marriage Revenge is on my list from all I love I see for it in the fan walls! I wish I had more time!
tabong has two different tears🍉
November 10, 2023 at 9:18 AM
I’m watching it too!! ^^ I’m having a lot of fun.
sonai
November 10, 2023 at 1:25 PM
Dito! 😆
RenOIshi
November 7, 2023 at 3:55 AM
Looks like I have many dramas to watch – Moon in the Day, The Matchmakers, Castaway Diva, Live your Own Life, Daily Dose of Sunshine, Good a day to be dog…speaking off what’s happening with Good Day? Did they cancel? Why are there fewer episodes?
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
November 7, 2023 at 4:02 AM
It is one episode a week and it has been cancelled twice due to other events. Hopefully from next week it will be back on its slow and steady once a week drop schedule.
john
November 7, 2023 at 4:49 AM
The broadcaster has assigned Dog with a horrible schedule with many preemptions due to sport events. Very sad 😔
john
November 7, 2023 at 5:30 AM
I wish the schedule was 2 episodes before the bye week . happy compromise !
That would shorten the run and still may require exemption for events?
Aigoo. Unfortunate draw of the straw . It’s a cute show. Probably be ideal to binge watch once it is over.
alasecond
November 7, 2023 at 1:21 PM
they are competing with killing vote for how obnexious can they be to audience
so many reschedules
RenOIshi
October 12, 2023 at 8:56 PM
Ah DWY ep 16….
1. Roowon nailed the wailing scenes.
2. Hong Jo is stooopiddd.
3. Manager Ma is not nice me thinks.
4. Guess the parents looked this young because they ARE young.
lapislazulii
October 12, 2023 at 9:04 PM
yes, yes, yes and yes!
RenOIshi
October 12, 2023 at 9:12 PM
Great minds Chingu 👍🏽
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 12, 2023 at 10:37 PM
I was disappointed in the final episodes.
indyfan
October 13, 2023 at 3:06 AM
#4 The math didn’t quite work out for me. At best, a stretch. But hey, it’s a fantasy.
RenOIshi
October 13, 2023 at 4:07 AM
Yeah true. Shin Yu at best would be 30? So his mum would be 50 now if she had him when she was 20? Or did she have him when she was 16? Lol
Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
October 13, 2023 at 10:11 AM
My brain immediately went into Math Mode, too.
Wasn’t Mom an actress before she got married? Maybe she was a child actress, got married and had SY at 20-21, he’s now 28 (that’s the youngest I can make him with law school and a bit of working experience) and she’s now 48-49. There’s certainly precedent for this type of geriatric pregnancy fantasy in Kdrama – the Hong Sisters, for example, have at least twice had a 50-year-old character get pregnant.
This has been another edition of Elinor Overthinks Things.
RenOIshi
October 13, 2023 at 12:59 PM
No I think your other thinking is just on point! The maths don’t work.
RenOIshi
October 11, 2023 at 8:06 PM
Oh boy! Here we go again… 🙄
DWY EP14
RenOIshi
October 5, 2023 at 12:15 AM
Watching a love sick Shin Yu was the only good thing about this noble idiocy breakup route the storyline took. He better be okay next episode otherwise I swear to god….
Also what is the actual purpose of having those two terrible co-workers? Comedic relief? Scene filler? Minor antagonists? Because all that they are doing is inducing rage and creating unnecessary thoughts of violence..
lapislazulii
October 5, 2023 at 12:21 AM
no literally SAME on both fronts – I’m super glad that it was the ending to ep 13 and not ep 14 because then we’d have to wait a whole week to find out 🤡
Cecee
October 10, 2023 at 9:22 AM
I am wondering if they will serve a big purpose later or if it is more a case of tension relief; like those little abstract drawings at the end of chapters in books. You can look at them absent-mindedly to soothe your brain until the actual drama starts again.
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 5:29 PM
Ah the noble idiocy breakup trope. Bring on angsty ep 13!
You are destined to be together. Why fight this feeling? 🙄
#DWY
lapislazulii
September 28, 2023 at 5:43 PM
can’t say I didn’t see it coming but all the same whY, after everything we’ve gone through to get to this point 😪
Seon-ha
September 28, 2023 at 6:24 PM
I dunno. I didn’t hear noble idiocy. I can see where you’re coming from @coffeprince4eva but, I sort of believed that she actually started not to want to be around him…
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 6:37 PM
Is that you crush on 2ML talking? 😆
Seon-ha
September 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM
You funny. A propos of absolutely nothing we were just discussing, wouldn’t it be great, though, if she rushed right back into to Jae-kyung’s arms?
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 6:58 PM
Yeah that’s not gonna happen..
bbstl 🧹
September 28, 2023 at 7:52 PM
I really thought, girl, yeah! Ditch this guy and all the baggage and go have a nice normal life with Jae Kyung.
Seon-ha
September 28, 2023 at 8:11 PM
@bbstl I mean all he’s got is deadbeat father baggage. That’s nothing compared to a generational curse, ya know?
bbstl 🧹
September 28, 2023 at 8:31 PM
@attiton well yeah! It’s just 30 million won (for now) plus a drunken FIL! At least the deadbeat Dad already likes her! 😁
lapislazulii
September 28, 2023 at 6:37 PM
previews made it sound like it could be noble idiocy though, but then again I know they’re misleading too oftentimes….
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 6:41 PM
‘I don’t want to see you’ *with tears in her eyes*
STAPH!
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 5:06 PM
I am not a violent person but I am willing to strangle those two $#%^ colleagues of Hong Jo.
Cay_sbtgoG
September 28, 2023 at 5:14 PM
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Cay_sbtgoG
September 28, 2023 at 5:23 PM
Well, there’s a limit to everyone’s patience and they’re simply a NIGHTMARE. Go ahead, they so deserve it. God knows how many characters I’ve cursed not to mention secretly killed in my mind over the years.😄😄😄
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 5:26 PM
😂😂😂
indyfan
September 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM
And this show actually has curses and black magic. Use it Hong-Jo. Give in to your Dark Side.
RenOIshi
September 28, 2023 at 6:56 PM
All I want is for her to say ‘none of your business!’ That’s all!
indyfan
September 28, 2023 at 7:01 PM
You are a better person than I. 😀
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
September 29, 2023 at 12:02 AM
I hear you my friend!
Till you said it I never realized how characteristic this is of a drama watcher (not addict – no, no).
bbstl 🧹
September 28, 2023 at 7:57 PM
In 12 I finally started to see them in a new way, which is to pity those poor actresses for having to portray two such petty, immature, unprofessional, senseless and shrewish characters! But if they ended up in a deep pit I’d help shovel dirt over them.
Semma Vetti
September 28, 2023 at 8:28 PM
The actual ladies in the bts videos are so chill… props to them for making us believe the annoying-ness.
RenOIshi
September 27, 2023 at 6:23 PM
‘The height difference is weird…’
‘A giraffe shouldn’t be with a bear…’
‘A bear should be with someone like me…an otter. They both eat fish’
Oh KJG! You make me laugh 😆