Strong Girl Nam-soon week 7 episode 13-14 top post (#1):
Binbin is not Si-oh. Anton/Si-oh was the boy who pretended to be beat so that Binbin could survive, too. How could anyone let this smile fade? Binbin is not well, and he is not Si-oh.
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Si-oh tells Nam-soon that he is out to get the mafia, and she only reacts by being surprised … not by e.g., calling her mum and suggesting maybe they cooperate. I know! He is the bad guy … but also the absolutely most interesting person in this show, by far. So maybe it would be okay to be a little extra lenient towards him?
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But as I already said last week, it was bound to be very sad when he found out he was being lied to. And here he is, learning that having a soft spot just means you’ll be sure to be hit there.
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Strong Girl Nam-soon week 7 #2
“He is exhausted, you say?” Nam-soon’s mum is all excited.
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I am not too excited about how the men in the family are ridiculed, but I must respect how Kim Gi-du collapses here … it is a little funny, isn’t it?
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This last gif is not funny at all. We all know this poor copper is going down the road to great suffering and death, and maybe even damage to his ears
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It was bad bad.
But now I went back to look for a piggyback gif and saw the old posts, I remembered all those cool odds and ends that thay had to ruin or ignore to turn the drama into something so completely hopeless.
Matchmaker Overview
How is it … who has been giving Rowoon severe chest pain by staring at each other, and who are being matched by parents and/or matchmakers?
I have tried to sketch out the love- and arrange- connection here, but it is lacking. You are SO welcome to enlighten me.
+ I made two gifs of two beautiful encounters. Woah Indeed!
Middle Sister, Du-ri, and Shi-yeol, who Ye-jin’s fiancé.
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Officer Older Brother Soon-gu sees it as his personal duty to keep one citizen, Youngest Sister/Hwa-rok, Sam-soon, away from a life of Crime:
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I am not sure why our streets and squares are not filled with long pieces of silk swaying gently in the breeze? The National Love Life would definitely benefit from it!
My affection for the show’s various couples is not a zero-sum game, but I really, really adore Sam-soon and Soon-gu. Love the contrast between her vivid imagination and his strict sense of propriety. They are a deliciously entertaining opposites-attract couple and I’m glad there are no rivals for either waiting in the wings.
It seems everybody have an obvious Mr. or Mrs. Right for them – they are just paired wrongly right now. Sam-soon, too, is to meet Bachelor #something. Soon-go did not like to hear that!
Wonder if he will, as we say in DK, get his finger out (=get his move on (No one ever says from where the finger needs to get out)) before that time.
Is it weird that I’m not remotely worried about that? Maybe because we’ve seen Sam-soon and Soon-go interact the most of any couple other than the OTP — and their unique personalities make them more challenging to fix up on the matchmaking spectrum — Scholar 23 isn’t going to advance much beyond being a number on paper, imho.
They fell into each other’s arms before the story even started, during the explanation of what these Ultra-Matchmakers were.
(Giffed below in another post, actually – they fall in the background while Soon-Deuk ties the knot).
I’m rooting for 1 to stay single — if that’s what she wishes, which so far seems to be the case. But it would be great if she had an opportunity to put her sharp intellect to good use.
It was funny to see Jung-Woo protecting the sisters after the river meeting. He wants their best now too.
Otherwise, clearly, the pain chests are active when the real pairing are meeting. Except the sister 2 so strong and independant she doesn’t see or accept she’s attracted by him. Sister 3 can’t believe it and she thinks he’s married. They didn’t talk about them to our matchmakers who are very pressed by the time.
For sister 1, I wonder what will happen. It would be nice if she can stay unmarried but she’s the oldest and the other ones won’t be able to marry, she would be at the mercy of nobles who wants her to be concubine…
Ye-jin and that farmer guy
I just submit this to the discussion board; the moment the hard romance runs into the misunderstanding. Because he makes fun of her not getting offers, she boasts, still joking, but truthfully, and having recieved the offer is taken as being already set for marriage.
They can’t marry the farmer off to one of the sisters, then, can they? I mean, the writers? They will understand each other again, yes?
Except for all of the Ye Jin and Scholar’s families being political big shots and wanting/needing to manipulate politics through marriage/alliances. I don’t see Ye Jin’s mother wanting her girl to marry a farmer, even a noble one, but I believe it can happen! Maybe our farmer is part of some hot shot family too 🤞🏼
Besides, I think the punk outfit looks kinda cute on her. Better than on the original girl, no offense, actually. (The original owner was actually better at going against conventions which is the whole point, but then again, it’s easier to do so in Britain than in Korea, I suspect).
It had great shock value when punk was first heard of or encountered (in England that was a gradual process, but in Denmark it was like “there is this thing, where they wear spikey coloured hair and safety pins” and then it existed in Denmark too.
One of my best friends in the mid-eighties was dressed more or less like in the picture, except she didn’t have that much money, so just black jeans, No Doc Martens and also a cheaper jacket. But spikey hair, turquoise when we first met, later white.
I guess rebelling is easier said than done, especially in that day and age. But I guess that is why we have fiction… and hope that the fiction may inspire someone in some timeline to rebel or rather just get the courage to stand up for themselves.
His expressions at every new fall are getting more and more enamoured. Initially it was “I don’t understand what is this and why is this happening”. More involuntary so to say. Now it is more “knowing”.
What magic you weave to take different scenes from different sources and blend them seamlessly together. I think this is perhaps your first time taking scenes from the same drama. The Z in your editing skillZ is definitely capital.
A Good Night to be a Dog
Finally new episodes. Anybody who has ever been on a school trip knows that for a teacher on night watch, there is no such thing as “overdressed”. It’s a super glamourous event.
Our Rivalesse is up to the occasion.
I won’t have time to watch these episodes until later in the week but I’m glad to see more of this character – she’s hilarious and her wardrobe is one of the brightest bright spots in the show. I’m totally up for being tagged!
Cecilie, could you go ahead and take me off of all of your “bulk” mention lists?
If you need me, personally, do still feel free to at-mention me, but I already read all the Fan Wall posts by definition, and I don’t want to miss when you actually are talking to me directly because I just assume you’re doing a “mention blast.”
LOL, that scene was hilarious. Also her whole “sleep/lounge” outfit was already a 10/10 😂
Yes, why not, you can never be to overdressed! 👏 Must salute her to carry all of this on a school trip to begin with (that enormous suitcase!).
I am reminded of the SFL in “Easter Parade”, who receives a puppy as a gift at the start and says “OOh, and I know exACTly what dress to wear it with” and later, her lover says: “[Her name], bring out ALL THE DOGS, we are going to the Easter Parade” (Something like that).
If you have ever seen “My Shy Boss” (Or introvert, in some translations), and then imagine his long internal monologues as happening with sounds, melodies, pictures, words that are alike, or rhymes or … all interrupting each other and going for long trips away from the initial subject …
Well, that’s my brain, at times at least.
That drama has one of my favorite quotes:
“If you can’t pay attention, stop being curious.”
In a funny way it helps me prioritize things. For example I don’t come to your Fanwall or comment on threads unless I actually have something to say. In your case I know you have invested so much care and attention on what you put up on your walls and therefore deserve full attention.
Naw … one has to have immense self-worth to be able to do the kind of editing magic that you do. Not easy at all and mostly a lonely journey. You are amazing. 👏 👍
The Curse of the Fun Idea
It only took me a little more than an hour to make this. What I’m saying is, I should learn to let go of having to realize any ole fun idea I get.
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For newcomers: Someone is said to be alive and not alive (see other gifs on my wall) in Perfect Marriage Revenge.
Which lead to this mixture of PMR, Schrödinger’s cat, and the “box with a sheep in it” from The little Prince.
I actually just took that page, removed the sheep, and put in the alive and not alive ones instead. I spent most of the time getting full figure pictures, cleaning them of background and make them look (as much as I could) as if they had been drawn on cream coloured paper.
Your commitment and dedication to actualize your “fun ideas” and share them with us brings all of us a lot of joy. An instant pick-me-up. I guess the term “mood-maker” was invented for you. 🙇♀️ Bow to your talent. May you shine forevermore. 💫
Hah! NO! Box!
I just saw a bit of Goblin, with a lot of people dying, then not dying, in a bus – and though I hadn’t consciously made any connection, my spelling fingers had!
Thank you! It doesn’t quite have the angle I wanted, if I had found the perfect box – it should be completely in line with grandma’s chest, as if it was on her lap, leaning against her. But it actually lacked the upper corner, which I had to make, so I am quite proud of it anyway.
I also put a little extra door in the background to cover FL’s shoulder.
Answer Me 1997: Uncomfortable truths
Hi, I just need to say this to someone.
I really hate this scene, that seems to be supposed to be funny.
I normally hate the way heroins “cleverly” get the MLs to do anything but sex towards the end of the story. Like it was some fun game where you came up with reasons for not being able to be together alone. But this time, the girl is not a coquette. She is not playing around. Whether she just doesn’t want to be pregnant, or whether she is against sex before marriage, that is not the important thing.
The important thing is that she is trying to protect herself, calls a taxi for him, – that they can’t discuss with words why she does not want to have sex. That he just uses all the tricks and his undeniably larger strength to get it the way he wants.
Starting with guessing her code and locking himself in.
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Look at her! She is not pouting and giggling. She is just trying to make things work.
And he get’s that coffee, and then he “needs” to use the bathroom, (Look at her exhausted sigh) and then he “needs” to watch TV, but she tries to push him out, which is undoable without his cooperation, because though she is strong, he is way stronger.
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And then he insists on her kissing him. She gives him pecks rather than kisses, that’s true.
But hey, if she wants to not have sex before marriage, or doesn’t want to be pregnant (seems from other clips that it’s really the pregnancy she doesn’t want) is it not fair to also want to protect yourself from situations where you know it will be hard for you to say no?
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SO he forces her backwards, and he kisses her yummily, and yes, most people including this girl wouldn’t mind being kissed by him all that much, but as I said before – I also think it’s fair to protect yourself also from things you desire; like, if you are an alcoholic, to not go to the pub, or if you are trying to lose weight, not go to the patisserie. And if you don’t want to be pregnant, to not be alone in your apartment kissing your sizzling hot boyfriend at a time where you’d naturally need a lie-down.
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I assume this is supposed to be fun in a “She wanted him all along” way. But as I said, you can want someone and still have valid reasons for wanting them to go. And he ought to give her a chance to let her head decide, like she tries to. He could try to persuade her head that is was okay, if he felt that way.
Also, I just generally hate the “She resists, but then she liked it” trope. Though of course, that resistance is often played as the man actually force-kissing the woman, holding her, while she tries to escape. Here at least he doesn’t hold her down, he “only” exhausts her defences.
But you know what? A lot of people have tried being in a situation where they ended up giving in to things they didn’t really want from from sheer exhaustion. I can’t really find it funny.
I have not watched Reply 1997, but yes, this sounds alarming, and not entirely surprising. I might be one of the only folks who didn’t like Reply 1988, in large part because it kept suggesting that the real role of women in society was to take care of men, and that male needs always trumped female desires.
Yeah, it isn’t this bad, but even the brainy sister gets told by her would-be boyfriend that she’ll have to put him first if she wants to date him, something that is never asked of the male characters.
But isn’t that in some more extreme situation, like, she’s ignoring that he exists or something? Not “I am more important than you” but “Sometimes, you need to cancel other things to actually be with me”?
Or is it the first, terrible guy she dates? Because as I recall, that guy who is in love with her for years, he is pretty ready to put up with a lot, but not … I must admit, I don’t remember the details, I just mean, if you are a couple, *sometimes* you need to each other at the top of the priority list?
But yes, it did have one of those lone “To be a mother bla bla bla” monologues that I hate.
We are not magical.
It so happens I really would give my life if it could save my child. But I don’t magically know when one of them is in danger, and I don’t walk around as a self-sacrificing entity.
I liked the FL here quite a bit, too. Also even if she was obviously not very smart. I didn’t like how violent she was until after the above scene – the rest of the time I was all: “Kick him, girl! Tear his hair! Punch him! One more!”
I felt so upset, someone had to do something.
Wanting to chime in as a sexual trauma researcher. There’s this concept called token resistance, which is the idea that women say no when they really mean yes (think “Baby It’s Cold Outside”) – it’s a very harmful concept because, as you said, it basically promotes this idea that if a person doesn’t say no, they want to have sex. Which is INCREDIBLY not true.
That’s why consent has moved to the affirmative or enthusiastic model, which is “yes means yes.” The Law Cafe actually had a very good explanation of it, lol.
I also really hate how kdramas portray sex (webcomics, too) with the woman often resisting and not seeming like she’s actually into it.
Matchmakers
Today was so, so lovely. Love was definitely in the air, and watching it felt like declining on puffs of cotton candy.
When for a minute it seemed like aggression and unkindness would pervail, this happened:
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Later, when this dialogue took place, I thought of other things the dear prince hasn’t tried yet but in time could learn to master:
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Matchmakers continued
When they met, our heroin had some embarrassed remark about her everyday looks, and evidence of interest, attention and admiration happened to escape our hero’s lips.
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Our sweet heroin picked up on the signal and wasn’t quite prepared.
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Matchmakers PPS
I also snapshot this beautiful moment;
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—and this, back from ep. 1, during the first description of the magic matchmakers and their unknown method.
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Yes, a backhanded compliment! I blame it on his total clumsiness. I mean he made sure to get the point across that he thought she is beautiful. 😃 (Yikes, how much I can forgive due to the beautiful scenes! 😆)
He is not used to saying anything nice to anyone. And he is used to being depreciative of everybody. I am not sure he really meant to be paying her a compliment, he was just his usual fragile-ego’ed, judgmental self, but there was love and adoration inside him, and one thing more that he is is honest. (Almost always, more than the average person, and not taking into consideration that he is lying to himself about what love and attraction is).
But it’s so funny, this stuffed-up, arrogant man, saying “You are not bad to look at” + “today, where I see more of your face, more so than ever” + also, in so many words “I always see you and notice you” and “I could recognize you everywhere, in any place”.
I’ve just seen the first episode again, and I am gonna kill the writers if they let any of our mains die because “The Matchmaker’s spouse’s unvariably have short lives”.
I imagine having lost a spouse give them the longing that makes them recognize love, as opposed to them having the ability and that somehow makes their spouses die.
And maybe, if they team up again for life (maybe not married, since that seems hard to achieve!) they lose that sensitivity, but keep their lives?
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I suddenly imagine an ending where *she* as some reward gets to remarry any single man she wants(who says yes) and she frees our anti-hero from his golden prison.
Oh, and I was going to say: It’s not so much a backhanded compliment as an … forhanded insult!
He starts out by confirming her self-depreciation that “I look bland without make-up” by saying “I am glad you are aware of that” and *then* goes on to say she is “not bad to look at”.
A backhanded compliment would be the other way round … MOre like “You shouldn’t say that, dear. Those layers of flaking makeup doesn’t really help, anyway”, just formulated in a more elegant, mean, Jane Austen-villainess way.
Answer Me 1997
For once, a drama is clearly showing how wrong this relationship bewteen a grownup and a child is. This is so uncomfortable and so off.
Even if the age difference is not enormous, he is the teacher figure for her, and she went into this in that typical child-like way: “I look up to him and love him, it makes me cool that he likes me! [But it feels strange]” – Many children end up being abused that way. Because the grownups abuse their love, admiration and gratitude. Sometimes even their respect for authority.
But in this show, it is clear to see how disgusting it is. Don’t date your students, teachers! Not your former students either!
Also, it somehow feels ickier to some viewers when the teacher is a man and clearly larger.
When the teacher is a slight woman and the student is the giant Gong Yoo, it not only gets glossed over but romanticized even.
I hated Biscuit Teacher so much that it has made me unable to enjoy any highschool show with too large male students and too little female teacher, even if there is no loveline between them. (Eg. School 2013)
I don’t know that show. But I don’t like it with either gender. Depending on the relation of power, including occasion to groom, the size of the persons, how old they are when they meet, the relation can be worse or less bad – a night school ceramics class with all grown-ups is def. less horrible than a high school teacher and student (also after school is finished – unless many years have passed with no encounter and the age difference is 5 years at the most).
But it is a frequent fantasy … I think I can actually better tolerate it if it is closer to an erotic fantasy rather than depicted as something that would make a healthy relationship. Because most people know what a “fantasy” is.
But in general – it’s just urgh.
I saw the colour palette of this gif and immediately knew that it is “Reply…” related, but it wasn’t until I took a closer look that 8 realized it isn’t about the “Reply…” I’m thinking about 😅 Everything about “Reply 1988” is making headlines again, especially about the OTP because Hyeri & Ryu Jun Yeol just announced their breakup after being together for 6+ years
Strong Girl Nam-soon week 6 episode 11-12 top post (#1):
Here is Si-oh, Binbin, Anton.
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He still has plans to get back at them. According to himself, he is new to love and friendship – except that one friend in the clip above. He needs to not be completely alone.
BTW what happened to that friend? Was Anton forced to kill him? Or is he somewhere around … someone we know?
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He is building his hope and his better self on this girl who is big time spying on him. It’s hard to see how that can end well.
Problem is, he is judged not solely based on whether he is nice to Nam-soon. I know! I know. I wanted him to be the ML all along. I still want that. But the person they present to us here in the drama, he is a little bit too terrible. Especially when it hurts people who are not mobsters at all, like this innocent truckdriver. I can’t even give you the whole clip, it’s so disgusting.
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Still, I can’t help thinking of all the times they have said that people can change, and that they should have a chance. Also, that what they really want to bring down can only be done in cooperation. Everybody storms out alone all the time, without telling everybody else what their plan is. What if Si-oh had shared his plans earlier on?
When we left him last week, Nam-sin was in danger of dying. But the whole family gets together and takes care of him, and Mama Geum-ju even pays the shady organisation for the antidote.
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“Ha ha”.
Strong Girl Nam-soon and civil rights w6 #3
K-dramas seem to have an ongoing war on civil rights. Especially when it comes to privacy and warrants. Both Nam-soon and Behind Your Touch people’s right to phone privacy. (+ indicating that breaking the bones of prisoners is “cool”. Yeah, cool like when Shi-oh beats up his employees).
In this episode, we have two attacks on civil rights. I am not one to know exactly where different limits should be, but this seems like too little confidence in the legal system and too much in the police.
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I know rich people get away with things they shouldn’t because they can afford lawyers that are cleverer than the spirit of the law, but having a lawyer in itself is not a villainous thing. The law is not made for people to cheat justice, otherwise, why don’t we just leave any judicial process to lynch mobs?
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Strong Girl Nam-soon w6 #4
I can’t say that I wasn’t warned, but as long as I could hope Si-oh would get in clinch with Nam-soon in a good way, this whole show was more interesting for me.
It’s not gonna happen. Nam-soon hates when he touches her even in a non-sexual way.
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But clearly, the interesting thing is what his reaction will be to having his feelings taken advantage of like they are.
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Hee-sik seems to finally have given in to the pressure of consummating. Maybe it helped that it was Nam-soon bringing it up instead of her mum or dad, and also, she mentioned the word “love”.
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I think this was it for now! This last episode was the first time I was not thoroughly entertained. I want to know what happens, but we all knew from the start that this show would not be what it promised to be.
This crazy writer should work with someone visionary one day – what a fantastic drama it could be. [sigh].
My favourite “desperate longing” gif. This time representing me longing for what I could imagine this drama to be.
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Thanks for keep us in the loop. I do wish I could join you for live watching but I missed the bus setime during week 3 and was never able to continue after that. Sigh. But I do enjoy your gifs thoroughly. If some enterprising soul over at YT makes a supercut of Nam-soon and Hee-sik, I would watch that and call it a day.
Thank you for the gifs! I tried to stay with this drama but with with so many live watches and the downward slope it seemed to be on I had to call it a day once I stopped enjoying a few weeks in a row.
I’ve enjoyed staying connected through your gifs and thoughtful posts. And I completely commiserate on the wanted potential, those at the dramas that frustrate me and stay with me more than the dramas I just didn’t expect much of and then didn’t enjoy.
@seeker proposed a theory that the driver of the black car in Yi-Joo’s car crash is significant, possibly even Dok-ju. So her sketches and his response to them lend credence to that idea. At least, that’s my interpretation of the interpretation.
I’ll tell you what he does:
Quoting the original first written version, (though translated) version from 1696:
“He approached with trembling and admiration, and fell down upon his knees before her.
Then, as the end of the enchantment was come, the Princess awoke, and looking on him with eyes more tender than could have been expected at first sight, said:—
“Is it you, my Prince? You have waited a long while.”
[Pg 22]The Prince, charmed with these words, and much more with the manner in which they were spoken, knew not how to show his joy and gratitude; he assured her that he loved her better than he did himself. Their discourse was not very connected, but they were the better pleased, for where there is much love there is little eloquence. He was more at a loss than she, and we need not wonder at it; she had had time to think of what to say to him; for it is evident (though history says nothing of it) that the good fairy, during so long a sleep, had given her very pleasant dreams. ” https://www.gutenberg.org/files/17208/17208-h/17208-h.htm#THE_SLEEPING_BEAUTY_IN_THE_WOODS
Matchmakers small things:
So, while waiting for the weekend, here are three funny-peculiar things, and to note: A mystery of episode four:
In the show, this girl is being treated as if she must compensate for being ugly. Even in this small clip, FL looks like it takes willpower to keep looking hopeful faced with … that face.
Even if we disregard inner beauty, I cannot see other than that she is a pretty girl, right?
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Mostly this happens when Jung-woo goes on some pedantic rant again; FL answers pacifyingly “Yeah, yeah”, and he says “Once is enough”.
This time is a bit different, since she is correcting herself, sending him this way and that. Still, I think that “Just say it once” is something we will hear again.
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Here, poor Jung-woo suffers quite a bit after FL has demonstrated how to call forth love at first sight
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Noone seems to care for his pain, the poor sod.
I don’t think they found her ugly but not feminin. She lacks the grace and the restraint they are expecting from a noble girl. She’s very energetic, very cute and like an open book.
But she did say: “Does that [sob 😢] mean [sob 😢] … that I’m uglyaawaaaaaah 😭😭😭😭☂️?”
And they were like: “Ehm … [cough] uhm … But you’re cute!”
To me, that would indicate they thought she was ugly. Otherwise they’d say: “Naaaaaah, never! You’re our precious little diamond in the rough, lil’ sis’!”
Hello!
I thought about the hands of that peasant that Soon-deok’s sister-in-law wants to be with. I thought they did not look like hardworking hands. Of course, that could just be a glitch, but they did seem to make sure we got a good look at his hands.
Of course, mud baths and mud masks are meant to scrub, soften, cleanse, and invigorate the skin, but I doubt hours of hard work in the rice field will yield this kind of result.
I made first a beautiful romantic “see his hands”-gif, ( https://imgur.com/6drt6kB ) and then I made a mix with people sowing actual rice by hand. It was hard to find pictures of rice-working hands that were not either a hand-photo model’s hands, or the hands of someone older than that young man.
Maybe all this means nothing, but I find it fairly probable that he is undercover rather than a real rice peasant. Here is the mix clip:
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Also, he is definitely afraid of being seen holding her hand. That of course would make most sense of all if he was an actual poor person – someone who could be beaten to death for daring to be liked be his betters, and who could not just “disappear” and find his network of rebels and a new identity.
Lot of research and hard work for you but fun for us … also very informative. You make us learn whether we want it or not by making it fun. You are sneaky like that. 🤣
Will be staring at his hands going forward 😂
There are a number of characters going undercover here, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if he were another one. Although if he’s a secret noble it’ll take away a chance for the matchmakers to work their magic to bridge the class divide.
I bet you he is on the wrong side of politics compared to her family. By that, I mean the progressive, anti-Confucian side. (As I recall wiki on “left state minister” and Joseon politics.
I don’t know? But I’d like to hear from you, if you feel like sharing.
We talked (under “The Matchmakers”) about makeup because of the supposedly “ugly” sister. There’s a whole actual song tht the gif is cut from, and you can find that on Youtube, searching for “Girl, you don’t need makeup”. The comedian in the center of this gif is Amy Schumer, the star of the show “Inside Schumer” and the film “Trainwreck”.
They didn’t exactly say she was ugly, but her sister said
-I don’t need to smile, because I am beautiful
– [sad, little-sisterish] Does that mean I’m ugly?
– Ehm … uhm … but you’re so *cute*!
+ pained, encouraging smiles, etc. As if they tried to hide the fact of her ugliness. And I am not being PC-encouraging here, I am not talking about being “visually challenged” or “alternatively looking”. She is just plain (plain as in “straight-forwardly) pretty. That’s what makes it weird.
The Matchmaker Detective Board
Bigger, slower, brighter!
I made clips of the what Jung-woo was looking at so that they can be watched in slow-motion.LInks below. They are MP4 because it’s better quality and you can make them fullscreen. Also, I have sharpened contrast, and enhanced colours. Know that the colours appear brighter than in “reality”.
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In the first clip I have included an enlarged version of what is at his right, which seems to be the direction he is looking at. Also, I have pointed out where Jung-woo is. Consider this gif just an illustration. To go a-sleuthing, follow the links.
Sigh,why am I reminded of Jang Shin-yu in the palace in the present timeline seemingly following a hanbok clad lady… don’t think that mystery ever got solved, did it.
It was solved, I thought – a memory of the past life, when “Mu-jin – who’s now a palace guard – sees Aeng-cho, he chases after her and they patch things up”
All the light in this scene was so soft, so even if it was beautiful and coloured, I took it up a notch simply so that details could be easier to discern, maybe. And that is also why I slowed it down. It was for detective purposes, not as a suggestion for the producers of the drama.
Privilege
I talked about this comedy pairing in a discussion and is putting this up for reference.
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It is definitely better with sound, for which reason I have put a link up for the same bit in MP4. https://imgur.com/AjKZYwc
Yes, they are super sharp. (The comedians, not “Fritz and Paul” the characters). If you follow the link below you can hear their voices speak upper class Danish. I believe you can hear the class sociolect even as a foreigner.
I did! We’ve all heard the jokes about how Danish isn’t a language, it’s a throat condition – and yet I can make out individual consonants, vowels, and syllables, so is that what marks their speech as upper class? Danish speakers are as scarce as hen’s teeth here so I have no real-life experience. I want to see more of these guys, though. Part of what I loved about them is they’re dressed exactly like the upper class twits I knew in the 1980s – it could be a time warp. Some things are apparently universal and unchanging.
It’s a bit like “The Queen’s English”; They are so relaxed and “well”-brought up that they more or less articulate without closing their mouths. Does that make sense?
And there’s something typical also in the way they more or less of chuckle and grunt from being so pleased with themselves. It’s hard to distinguish what they say from how they say it, but I thought that maybe you could hear the area North of Copenhagen with the big houses (“The Whiskey Belt”) in their articulation, too?
Anyways, You can search on “Snobberne”, there are lots of clips on youtube.
A few of them are subtitled. I checked one out: It is poorly done, the tone is wrong. They speek a mixture of, you know “jolly good” and “Old chap”, call each other “søde” (means “sweet” but is a little less than that, but more than “nice”).
It’s like calling each other “darling” without being actual homosexuals (More like when women call each other those things, + they are so alike that they love each other for always agreeing it’s a kind of self infatuation) and then they fill in with pretty vulgar swear words. The subtitles I found were in a middle language tone, like I would have translated something I myself said. You will get the gist, but will have to add the tone mentally.
The way they talk is very authentic, and I know that if I had tried to write this kind of dialogue, I would have made it too nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSmJKWFTbNs
The throat sounds in Danish are becoming more an d more softened (like all our consonants) so that sounds can actually be very hard to discern. The Norwegians made an Alas! too, too funny sketch about Danish people not understanding each other anymore and just walking around in bewildered linguistic loneliness. But we do have the glottal stroke, of course. Without that, not Danish. It’s not so much a sound as a short stop in the sound of the rest of the word.
Also, we have a way of saying “yes” that consists of breathing in shortly. Mainly used for confirming we are still listening to someone who speaks. I didn’t ever think about that until I talked to an Italian, who kept making fun of me by gasping loudly each time.
But who wrote that they should just stay there, frozen in that position, while all the rest of the drama was displayed on their clothes? Did I dream up that prompt?
I don’t think I did. But if nobody takes credit, you definitely should take it!
I was just picturing how they discuss the scene.
“So, you face each and other with your hands outstretched”
“So we shake hands?”
“Of course not. Just leave your hands there.”
“Ok. For how long?”
“12 minutes, this is makjang land, baby. Maximal effort minimum impact.”
“Shouldn’t it be the other way round?”
“Who cares? Makjang!!!”
Not 12 minutes. “The rest of the drama” means … It is supposed to be 12 episodes, right?
Each on the good side of 1:15 hour long. But minus the time before the … Not “handshake“, … Handstand, maybe?
Which occurs at 1:22 minutes into fourth episode, which is 1:16:28 long.
So, not being too meticulous about seconds, it’ll be
“OK. For how long?”
“Ten hours and twenty-five minutes. This is makjang land, baby. [etcetera]”
Makjang!
I have already been joining with a rich amount of gifs. It was quite fun to make the gifs, and other people’s updates are fun, too. But I am seriously SO bored while watching the show. And I don’t think the ML is hot at all.
I don’t want to hate on him for not being hot – it’s just that I can see other thinks he is, and for me, there’s just nothing to look at. To me, he is the type of guy who would sidle up to one (when “one” was younger) with some really dumb pick-up line that you could see coming from a mile away, and you just really, really hoped he would go away without you having to shout at him. (I know, he doesn’t play that kind of character, but he looks it).
I think I can enjoy a good “it was his adopted daughter, and later, they found out the plumber was really an undercover chaebol boy, and the brother’s leg was totally fine, and the whole fortune was hidden in a secret underground vault that opened when you turned the snow glass ball” thing … I mean, I am a Dickens enthusiast, and I guess he is makjang, if I has got the genre right?
But I am bored, and if I could turn up the speed to 1,5 it would be alright, but I can’t do that on viki … so I’m not quite sure I can keep watching this. Or maybe I can just watch half, in big jumps… and then read the recaps. Just to be along here. Because the show in itself has no attraction for me.
Thank you! Seon-ha is probably right, they are going somewhere with those colours and their harmony.
Also, not just in this scene, but generally, a lot of silk is being swirled.
Here it is. It’s like they wanted to make sure someone would gif it.
And use it whenever they needed an illustration of “smug grin”.
Actually, I think I’ll have the “smug grin” gif for use after subtle burns here, too:
Well, thanks. I’m not sure what I’ll be doing—I’m actually still a little afraid to go back and do my “second watch” for gifs—but I’ll keep the request in mind!
Sorry. I decided after posting, that the lighter version was clearly the best. And to not waste everybody’s broadband, I reposted with only that gif, but forgot to change the text.
My brain was no cooperative.
Oh yes, was it her?! I was wondering if he saw the crown prince being deployed to the hideaway outside the palace, possibly! (Because did he not mention that “you wouldn’t see that person outside the palace”? But since the cuts were so quick I still don’t recognize anyone in the crowd there, not even Yeojudaek… 🧐 (might just hint to me needing glasses though)).
Maybe I misunderstood.
I can’t recognize her jade colours among the hoodie-covered silk cocoons sailing past him. But I can’t see any little brother-in-law crown prince either.
But he bent over, grasping his chest, so I just assumed it was her. On the other hand, he reacts like that on any love, and surely, there are lots of young ones in love among all people.
But I don’t get his comment about being outside the palace, then … don’t they live outside the palace? Or does this whole festival happen inside the palace area and they were supposed to *not* be there?
@ceciliedk I don’t know… It surely is kinda weird. I don’t think they live within the palace at all… Maybe he *also* saw someone from the palace (someone who is near to the crown prince) in that crowd after all…? If we’re lucky, we’ll get an explanatory flashback in the next episode. 🤔
It could also be that “seeing the beloved everywhere” that you meet in K-dramas in exaggerated form (because I don’t know that it is normal to actually hallucinate about a crush, so much so that you meet them, you think they are a hallucination, as I have seen a couple of times in dramas).
Or …
No, … I hope there will be an explanatory flashback. Because I am confused, too.
All I know is I’m confused too. Based solely on his words I thought it would be someone related to the crown prince. That would give him some inside knowledge to employ when the investigation into the crown prince’s death/illness/near escape (poor kid) gets underway.
Basically we need to set up the lantern festival equivalent of a crime investigation whiteboard with a timeline of parties’ rival at the site, blown-up headshots of the suspects, and many pieces of colorful string tying the clues together.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next episode reveals who he saw … it’s such a tease right now that it has to serve a plot purpose.
The sisters are there, and a hoodie like the one FL has is there, (see circled below here), and if she is not disguised as matchmaker, she belongs to the court, so he *could* have seen a court person who looked like FL and thought “No, can’t be”. But also, it didn’t seem like a weird thing for her to go out at the lantern festival, considering the family made ready to go together, and had had new hoodies made for the occasion.
@ceciliedk Sure thing – didn’t Jung-woo and the ladies actually plan to meet up at the festival? The whole „look of Love“ training was done exactly for this occasion, wasn’t it… 🤔
In fact, I know! Bless my kpop education (specifically the legendary banger that is DBSK’s MIROTIC, but trust me, I’ve heard it in maaany songs) for teaching me the expression 넌 내게 빠져 “neon naege ppajyeo” which literally means “you have fallen (in love) with me”. Quick google search confirms that 빠져/”ppajyeo” indeed means “being out of it/not quite where or how one is supposed to be”, also is a part of phrases like “falling into the trap”, “getting in trouble”, “being absent/absent-minded” etc, so I believe this is exactly what you’re looking for. Won’t be surprised if there is more words/expressions with the same meaning since Korean is a rather rich language, but from my decade+ fansubbing experience to express such feelings it’s usually one of the 4 being used: “love”, “like”, “wanting/desire” AND “ppajyeo”. “I’ve fallen for you” – I’m relying on my poor knowledge and GT here – should translate to 난 너에게 빠졌어 “nan neoege/neoyege ppajyeosseo” (a bit insure about formality level with this one, but whatever).
Thank you SO much.
I am asking because a certain character keeps literally falling – all the time , and I started thinking maybe this falling was hinting at something less literal.
You’re welcome))) I believe it’s a universal metaphor because, you know, human biology is largely the same everywhere, so week knees due to FEELZ shouldn’t be a region-specific symptom of love.
I cannot speak for a lot of languages, but in French it is indeed the same “falling in love = tomber amoureux” but we do not say “I’ve fallen for you”, the adjective amoureux is always present. If you fall with no other indication in French, you fall on the ground or you drop dead. Sweeping someone off their feet is faire perdre la tête (to loose one’s head) or subjuger / subjugate.
But there is no equivalent to head over heels. (Or I do not find a corresponding expression).
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November 19, 2023 at 11:49 AM
Strong Girl Nam-soon week 7 episode 13-14 top post (#1):
Binbin is not Si-oh. Anton/Si-oh was the boy who pretended to be beat so that Binbin could survive, too. How could anyone let this smile fade? Binbin is not well, and he is not Si-oh.
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Si-oh tells Nam-soon that he is out to get the mafia, and she only reacts by being surprised … not by e.g., calling her mum and suggesting maybe they cooperate. I know! He is the bad guy … but also the absolutely most interesting person in this show, by far. So maybe it would be okay to be a little extra lenient towards him?
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But as I already said last week, it was bound to be very sad when he found out he was being lied to. And here he is, learning that having a soft spot just means you’ll be sure to be hit there.
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More gifs to follow in the comments.
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November 19, 2023 at 1:12 PM
Strong Girl Nam-soon week 7 #2
“He is exhausted, you say?” Nam-soon’s mum is all excited.
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I am not too excited about how the men in the family are ridiculed, but I must respect how Kim Gi-du collapses here … it is a little funny, isn’t it?
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This last gif is not funny at all. We all know this poor copper is going down the road to great suffering and death, and maybe even damage to his ears
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:49 PM
Even his fall is “lazy”. 🤣
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:50 PM
Are you enjoying the drama. Is it so bad that its good or is it bad bad.
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December 21, 2023 at 5:44 PM
It was bad bad.
But now I went back to look for a piggyback gif and saw the old posts, I remembered all those cool odds and ends that thay had to ruin or ignore to turn the drama into something so completely hopeless.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
December 21, 2023 at 7:13 PM
That is somehow worse … when you can’t even remember the good bits without that bitter taste in your mouth. Urgh.
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November 16, 2023 at 3:12 PM
Matchmaker Overview
How is it … who has been giving Rowoon severe chest pain by staring at each other, and who are being matched by parents and/or matchmakers?
I have tried to sketch out the love- and arrange- connection here, but it is lacking. You are SO welcome to enlighten me.
+ I made two gifs of two beautiful encounters.
Woah Indeed!
Middle Sister, Du-ri, and Shi-yeol, who Ye-jin’s fiancé.
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A Very Individual Crime Prevention Scheme
Officer Older Brother Soon-gu sees it as his personal duty to keep one citizen, Youngest Sister/Hwa-rok, Sam-soon, away from a life of Crime:
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I am not sure why our streets and squares are not filled with long pieces of silk swaying gently in the breeze? The National Love Life would definitely benefit from it!
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 16, 2023 at 4:19 PM
My affection for the show’s various couples is not a zero-sum game, but I really, really adore Sam-soon and Soon-gu. Love the contrast between her vivid imagination and his strict sense of propriety. They are a deliciously entertaining opposites-attract couple and I’m glad there are no rivals for either waiting in the wings.
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November 16, 2023 at 5:24 PM
It seems everybody have an obvious Mr. or Mrs. Right for them – they are just paired wrongly right now. Sam-soon, too, is to meet Bachelor #something. Soon-go did not like to hear that!
Wonder if he will, as we say in DK, get his finger out (=get his move on (No one ever says from where the finger needs to get out)) before that time.
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November 16, 2023 at 5:34 PM
Checked: Scholar #23 is set up to marry Sam-soon. We can’t have that!
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 16, 2023 at 5:44 PM
Is it weird that I’m not remotely worried about that? Maybe because we’ve seen Sam-soon and Soon-go interact the most of any couple other than the OTP — and their unique personalities make them more challenging to fix up on the matchmaking spectrum — Scholar 23 isn’t going to advance much beyond being a number on paper, imho.
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November 16, 2023 at 5:58 PM
They fell into each other’s arms before the story even started, during the explanation of what these Ultra-Matchmakers were.
(Giffed below in another post, actually – they fall in the background while Soon-Deuk ties the knot).
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 16, 2023 at 6:00 PM
It’s destiny!! Also, I just really want to read Sam-soon’s post-marriage novels which will be a thinly disguised retelling of their life together.
Seon-ha
November 16, 2023 at 5:24 PM
Haha, yeah, I think that monk’s gonna stay unmarried, Cecilie!! 🤣
My current “vote” (also supported by Jung-woo for 2 & 3) is that…
One will end up with the farmer [or no one, for preference, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen]
Two will end up with the boy who still wears his Confucian hat.
Three will end up with Soon-deok’s orabeoni.
I’m rarely correct about such things in the end, but that’s where I am now.
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 16, 2023 at 6:04 PM
I’m rooting for 1 to stay single — if that’s what she wishes, which so far seems to be the case. But it would be great if she had an opportunity to put her sharp intellect to good use.
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November 16, 2023 at 6:12 PM
Two will definitely end up with that boy “of similar age” 😊😉
But as is, he is betrothed to Ye-jin.
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November 16, 2023 at 6:23 PM
But don’t you think Ye-jin and the farmer will get each other?
Seon-ha
November 16, 2023 at 6:37 PM
Um, well, um, I’m fearing that there may also be tragedy ahead…but like I say, I’ve never, ever been right about these things.
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November 17, 2023 at 7:20 AM
But that maid that we thought had been killed … she is alive! That made me hopeful for the lives and loves of others, too.
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December 5, 2023 at 12:21 PM
Well. unmarried, yes, but …
Kurama
November 16, 2023 at 9:04 PM
It was funny to see Jung-Woo protecting the sisters after the river meeting. He wants their best now too.
Otherwise, clearly, the pain chests are active when the real pairing are meeting. Except the sister 2 so strong and independant she doesn’t see or accept she’s attracted by him. Sister 3 can’t believe it and she thinks he’s married. They didn’t talk about them to our matchmakers who are very pressed by the time.
For sister 1, I wonder what will happen. It would be nice if she can stay unmarried but she’s the oldest and the other ones won’t be able to marry, she would be at the mercy of nobles who wants her to be concubine…
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November 17, 2023 at 3:56 AM
Ye-jin and that farmer guy
I just submit this to the discussion board; the moment the hard romance runs into the misunderstanding. Because he makes fun of her not getting offers, she boasts, still joking, but truthfully, and having recieved the offer is taken as being already set for marriage.
They can’t marry the farmer off to one of the sisters, then, can they? I mean, the writers? They will understand each other again, yes?
Kurama
November 17, 2023 at 6:57 AM
I mean technically it’s a just swap between the couples and the four of them would agree with it. I really hope they will find happiness too!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:40 PM
The “swap” may not be so easy … even in these so-called modern times.
bbstl 🧹
November 17, 2023 at 9:21 AM
Except for all of the Ye Jin and Scholar’s families being political big shots and wanting/needing to manipulate politics through marriage/alliances. I don’t see Ye Jin’s mother wanting her girl to marry a farmer, even a noble one, but I believe it can happen! Maybe our farmer is part of some hot shot family too 🤞🏼
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November 17, 2023 at 5:39 PM
I guess Ye-jin musttake matters into her own hands and rebel against her parents.
chokulit
November 20, 2023 at 11:48 PM
I vote for rebelling rather than drowning her sorrows in alcohol every night.
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November 21, 2023 at 1:11 AM
Yes. And if rebelling includes getting really drunk just once instead of a little drunk all the time – that’s better, too.
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November 21, 2023 at 1:14 AM
Besides, I think the punk outfit looks kinda cute on her. Better than on the original girl, no offense, actually. (The original owner was actually better at going against conventions which is the whole point, but then again, it’s easier to do so in Britain than in Korea, I suspect).
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:38 PM
Everyone in the drama would fall into a faint to see this kind of rebelling. 🤣
I commend you on your choice for “shock value”.
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November 22, 2023 at 11:35 PM
It had great shock value when punk was first heard of or encountered (in England that was a gradual process, but in Denmark it was like “there is this thing, where they wear spikey coloured hair and safety pins” and then it existed in Denmark too.
One of my best friends in the mid-eighties was dressed more or less like in the picture, except she didn’t have that much money, so just black jeans, No Doc Martens and also a cheaper jacket. But spikey hair, turquoise when we first met, later white.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:36 PM
I guess rebelling is easier said than done, especially in that day and age. But I guess that is why we have fiction… and hope that the fiction may inspire someone in some timeline to rebel or rather just get the courage to stand up for themselves.
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November 22, 2023 at 11:28 PM
Actually, Soon-Deuk made it work with that young man who “suddenly wanted to be a monk” if he couldn’t marry that girl.
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November 17, 2023 at 2:46 PM
More Falling
I cut Jung-woo’s new fall into the falling gif.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:27 PM
His expressions at every new fall are getting more and more enamoured. Initially it was “I don’t understand what is this and why is this happening”. More involuntary so to say. Now it is more “knowing”.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:30 PM
What magic you weave to take different scenes from different sources and blend them seamlessly together. I think this is perhaps your first time taking scenes from the same drama. The Z in your editing skillZ is definitely capital.
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November 22, 2023 at 8:34 PM
Thank you, Cera!
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November 19, 2023 at 6:57 PM
Those who whish for Oldest Sister to end up alone: This poster, and another one in the same style, give you a reason for hope.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:25 PM
Me and my 🦆
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November 22, 2023 at 11:38 PM
I like that our mains are called “woo” and (more or less) “duck”.
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November 22, 2023 at 11:38 PM
Soon!
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November 15, 2023 at 1:22 PM
A Good Night to be a Dog
Finally new episodes. Anybody who has ever been on a school trip knows that for a teacher on night watch, there is no such thing as “overdressed”. It’s a super glamourous event.
Our Rivalesse is up to the occasion.
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November 15, 2023 at 1:32 PM
Above is a pretty silly and not very spoilerish gif from episode 6; I don’t have a Tag list for this show yet.
If you want to be on the tag list for A Good Day To Be A Dog, you can add your tag here, or if that is impossible, ask for help:
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Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
November 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM
I won’t have time to watch these episodes until later in the week but I’m glad to see more of this character – she’s hilarious and her wardrobe is one of the brightest bright spots in the show. I’m totally up for being tagged!
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November 15, 2023 at 2:31 PM
I have been a teacher and I was just speechless for a moment when she came struttin’ down the hall like that. 😂😂😂
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 15, 2023 at 5:27 PM
Oh really! A teacher, at school? One never could have guessed. 😂
I’m always up for the sillies. 🙋♀️
Isa is always time travelling
November 16, 2023 at 3:38 AM
I’m not watching this drama yet. I will probably watch it on January or maybe later, depending on my mood (and pending shows).
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 16, 2023 at 4:06 AM
Binge sounds like the way to go for this drama at least with its wildly irregular airing schedule.
Seon-ha
November 15, 2023 at 5:16 PM
Cecilie, could you go ahead and take me off of all of your “bulk” mention lists?
If you need me, personally, do still feel free to at-mention me, but I already read all the Fan Wall posts by definition, and I don’t want to miss when you actually are talking to me directly because I just assume you’re doing a “mention blast.”
Thanks!
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November 15, 2023 at 6:19 PM
You’ve got it!
sonai
November 15, 2023 at 10:34 PM
LOL, that scene was hilarious. Also her whole “sleep/lounge” outfit was already a 10/10 😂
Yes, why not, you can never be to overdressed! 👏 Must salute her to carry all of this on a school trip to begin with (that enormous suitcase!).
Great gif, thank you! 👏
sonai
November 15, 2023 at 10:46 PM
*too overdressed, obvs! Oh, auto correction before coffee in the morning… 😴😪
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November 15, 2023 at 11:52 PM
I am reminded of the SFL in “Easter Parade”, who receives a puppy as a gift at the start and says “OOh, and I know exACTly what dress to wear it with” and later, her lover says: “[Her name], bring out ALL THE DOGS, we are going to the Easter Parade” (Something like that).
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:21 PM
Her dressing skills are spot on.
As always I’m awed by your references. Did you eat Google for your last meal.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:23 PM
No scratch that because I’m sure even Google or any old algorithm cannot come up with such perfect references. 🤣
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November 22, 2023 at 8:29 PM
If you have ever seen “My Shy Boss” (Or introvert, in some translations), and then imagine his long internal monologues as happening with sounds, melodies, pictures, words that are alike, or rhymes or … all interrupting each other and going for long trips away from the initial subject …
Well, that’s my brain, at times at least.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 23, 2023 at 10:28 AM
That drama has one of my favorite quotes:
“If you can’t pay attention, stop being curious.”
In a funny way it helps me prioritize things. For example I don’t come to your Fanwall or comment on threads unless I actually have something to say. In your case I know you have invested so much care and attention on what you put up on your walls and therefore deserve full attention.
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November 23, 2023 at 10:56 AM
Thank you Cera! You are being SO nice to my fragile ego! ❤️😉😊
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 23, 2023 at 11:05 AM
🤣 🤣 🤣
Naw … one has to have immense self-worth to be able to do the kind of editing magic that you do. Not easy at all and mostly a lonely journey. You are amazing. 👏 👍
SP2022
November 16, 2023 at 1:19 PM
Loving her wardrobe! And his lack of reaction 👌
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November 15, 2023 at 6:08 AM
The Curse of the Fun Idea
It only took me a little more than an hour to make this. What I’m saying is, I should learn to let go of having to realize any ole fun idea I get.
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bbstl 🧹
November 15, 2023 at 7:03 AM
It’s great, you did well! 👏🏽
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November 15, 2023 at 8:23 AM
Thank you!
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November 15, 2023 at 8:19 AM
For newcomers: Someone is said to be alive and not alive (see other gifs on my wall) in Perfect Marriage Revenge.
Which lead to this mixture of PMR, Schrödinger’s cat, and the “box with a sheep in it” from The little Prince.
@elinor @indyfan @hopefulromantic @sonai @mayhemf @ladynightshade @seeker @lapislazulii @lixie @attiton @DarkCc @kafiyah-bello @mindy @emsel @giocare
Kafiyah Bello
November 15, 2023 at 8:45 AM
The inclusion of the actual petit prince and the French is chef’s kiss.
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November 15, 2023 at 8:50 AM
I actually just took that page, removed the sheep, and put in the alive and not alive ones instead. I spent most of the time getting full figure pictures, cleaning them of background and make them look (as much as I could) as if they had been drawn on cream coloured paper.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:14 PM
Could we say Mother-in-law’s beehive is inspired by the petit prince.
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November 15, 2023 at 8:51 AM
And thank you! 🙂
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November 15, 2023 at 4:22 PM
Schrödinger’s To Be or Not To Be
I guess Hamlet is so appropriate an addition that I just had to make it.
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🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:15 PM
Hamlet has a cape. 😀
ladynightshade wants to be gazed at by namgoong min
November 16, 2023 at 11:02 AM
Awww, this is so cute!! So simple, yet so pretty. Your work is amazing.
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November 16, 2023 at 11:50 AM
Thank you! 😊
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 22, 2023 at 8:19 PM
Your commitment and dedication to actualize your “fun ideas” and share them with us brings all of us a lot of joy. An instant pick-me-up. I guess the term “mood-maker” was invented for you. 🙇♀️ Bow to your talent. May you shine forevermore. 💫
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November 22, 2023 at 8:25 PM
Aww, Cera, thank you!
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November 15, 2023 at 1:39 AM
The Return of Schrödinger’s Cat
It suddenly occured to me that this whole thing was demonstrating a highly scientific principle.
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Cecee
November 15, 2023 at 2:08 AM
Schrödinger’s Yi-joo: is she inside or outside the box? More in the next episode.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 15, 2023 at 2:43 AM
Question: Is Do-guk in the same box 📦 🤔
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November 15, 2023 at 3:25 AM
Schrödingers crowded bus.
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November 15, 2023 at 3:26 AM
Hah! NO! Box!
I just saw a bit of Goblin, with a lot of people dying, then not dying, in a bus – and though I hadn’t consciously made any connection, my spelling fingers had!
emsel
November 15, 2023 at 3:34 AM
So, the two cars colliding with each other is Newton’s third law? Makes sense because both are time travelling
emsel
November 15, 2023 at 3:27 AM
Editing skills 👌 Top notch! That ugly crumpled box doesn’t even look out of place
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November 15, 2023 at 5:05 AM
Thank you! It doesn’t quite have the angle I wanted, if I had found the perfect box – it should be completely in line with grandma’s chest, as if it was on her lap, leaning against her. But it actually lacked the upper corner, which I had to make, so I am quite proud of it anyway.
I also put a little extra door in the background to cover FL’s shoulder.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 15, 2023 at 9:54 AM
👏
Kafiyah Bello
November 15, 2023 at 4:09 AM
I love you all so much, this thread brings JOY, lol.
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November 14, 2023 at 4:22 AM
Answer Me 1997: Uncomfortable truths
Hi, I just need to say this to someone.
I really hate this scene, that seems to be supposed to be funny.
I normally hate the way heroins “cleverly” get the MLs to do anything but sex towards the end of the story. Like it was some fun game where you came up with reasons for not being able to be together alone.
But this time, the girl is not a coquette. She is not playing around. Whether she just doesn’t want to be pregnant, or whether she is against sex before marriage, that is not the important thing.
The important thing is that she is trying to protect herself, calls a taxi for him, – that they can’t discuss with words why she does not want to have sex. That he just uses all the tricks and his undeniably larger strength to get it the way he wants.
Starting with guessing her code and locking himself in.
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Look at her! She is not pouting and giggling. She is just trying to make things work.
And he get’s that coffee, and then he “needs” to use the bathroom, (Look at her exhausted sigh) and then he “needs” to watch TV, but she tries to push him out, which is undoable without his cooperation, because though she is strong, he is way stronger.
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And then he insists on her kissing him. She gives him pecks rather than kisses, that’s true.
But hey, if she wants to not have sex before marriage, or doesn’t want to be pregnant (seems from other clips that it’s really the pregnancy she doesn’t want) is it not fair to also want to protect yourself from situations where you know it will be hard for you to say no?
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SO he forces her backwards, and he kisses her yummily, and yes, most people including this girl wouldn’t mind being kissed by him all that much, but as I said before – I also think it’s fair to protect yourself also from things you desire; like, if you are an alcoholic, to not go to the pub, or if you are trying to lose weight, not go to the patisserie. And if you don’t want to be pregnant, to not be alone in your apartment kissing your sizzling hot boyfriend at a time where you’d naturally need a lie-down.
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I assume this is supposed to be fun in a “She wanted him all along” way. But as I said, you can want someone and still have valid reasons for wanting them to go. And he ought to give her a chance to let her head decide, like she tries to. He could try to persuade her head that is was okay, if he felt that way.
Also, I just generally hate the “She resists, but then she liked it” trope. Though of course, that resistance is often played as the man actually force-kissing the woman, holding her, while she tries to escape. Here at least he doesn’t hold her down, he “only” exhausts her defences.
But you know what? A lot of people have tried being in a situation where they ended up giving in to things they didn’t really want from from sheer exhaustion. I can’t really find it funny.
wonhwa
November 14, 2023 at 5:27 AM
I have not watched Reply 1997, but yes, this sounds alarming, and not entirely surprising. I might be one of the only folks who didn’t like Reply 1988, in large part because it kept suggesting that the real role of women in society was to take care of men, and that male needs always trumped female desires.
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November 14, 2023 at 5:52 AM
Reply 1988 didn’t have any scenes like this, though. And there was the brainy, moody sister as counterweight to the cute, confused, caring FL.
wonhwa
November 14, 2023 at 6:44 PM
Yeah, it isn’t this bad, but even the brainy sister gets told by her would-be boyfriend that she’ll have to put him first if she wants to date him, something that is never asked of the male characters.
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November 15, 2023 at 1:35 AM
But isn’t that in some more extreme situation, like, she’s ignoring that he exists or something? Not “I am more important than you” but “Sometimes, you need to cancel other things to actually be with me”?
Or is it the first, terrible guy she dates? Because as I recall, that guy who is in love with her for years, he is pretty ready to put up with a lot, but not … I must admit, I don’t remember the details, I just mean, if you are a couple, *sometimes* you need to each other at the top of the priority list?
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November 14, 2023 at 5:54 AM
But yes, it did have one of those lone “To be a mother bla bla bla” monologues that I hate.
We are not magical.
It so happens I really would give my life if it could save my child. But I don’t magically know when one of them is in danger, and I don’t walk around as a self-sacrificing entity.
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November 14, 2023 at 5:56 AM
I liked the FL here quite a bit, too. Also even if she was obviously not very smart. I didn’t like how violent she was until after the above scene – the rest of the time I was all: “Kick him, girl! Tear his hair! Punch him! One more!”
I felt so upset, someone had to do something.
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November 14, 2023 at 7:04 AM
By the way, Hi! Here’s a post about Answer Me 1997, and there’s one more on my wall about another relationship in that drama, if you’re interested.
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@marysadanaga @sp2022 @darkcc @GhostofTim @elinor @indyfan
vienibenmio
November 14, 2023 at 10:10 AM
Wanting to chime in as a sexual trauma researcher. There’s this concept called token resistance, which is the idea that women say no when they really mean yes (think “Baby It’s Cold Outside”) – it’s a very harmful concept because, as you said, it basically promotes this idea that if a person doesn’t say no, they want to have sex. Which is INCREDIBLY not true.
That’s why consent has moved to the affirmative or enthusiastic model, which is “yes means yes.” The Law Cafe actually had a very good explanation of it, lol.
I also really hate how kdramas portray sex (webcomics, too) with the woman often resisting and not seeming like she’s actually into it.
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November 13, 2023 at 5:36 PM
Matchmakers
Today was so, so lovely. Love was definitely in the air, and watching it felt like declining on puffs of cotton candy.
When for a minute it seemed like aggression and unkindness would pervail, this happened:
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Later, when this dialogue took place, I thought of other things the dear prince hasn’t tried yet but in time could learn to master:
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November 13, 2023 at 5:41 PM
Matchmakers continued
When they met, our heroin had some embarrassed remark about her everyday looks, and evidence of interest, attention and admiration happened to escape our hero’s lips.
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Our sweet heroin picked up on the signal and wasn’t quite prepared.
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November 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM
Matchmakers PPS
I also snapshot this beautiful moment;
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—and this, back from ep. 1, during the first description of the magic matchmakers and their unknown method.
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sonai
November 13, 2023 at 11:19 PM
Yes, a backhanded compliment! I blame it on his total clumsiness. I mean he made sure to get the point across that he thought she is beautiful. 😃 (Yikes, how much I can forgive due to the beautiful scenes! 😆)
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November 14, 2023 at 2:13 AM
He is not used to saying anything nice to anyone. And he is used to being depreciative of everybody. I am not sure he really meant to be paying her a compliment, he was just his usual fragile-ego’ed, judgmental self, but there was love and adoration inside him, and one thing more that he is is honest. (Almost always, more than the average person, and not taking into consideration that he is lying to himself about what love and attraction is).
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November 14, 2023 at 2:21 AM
But it’s so funny, this stuffed-up, arrogant man, saying “You are not bad to look at” + “today, where I see more of your face, more so than ever” + also, in so many words “I always see you and notice you” and “I could recognize you everywhere, in any place”.
I’ve just seen the first episode again, and I am gonna kill the writers if they let any of our mains die because “The Matchmaker’s spouse’s unvariably have short lives”.
I imagine having lost a spouse give them the longing that makes them recognize love, as opposed to them having the ability and that somehow makes their spouses die.
And maybe, if they team up again for life (maybe not married, since that seems hard to achieve!) they lose that sensitivity, but keep their lives?
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I suddenly imagine an ending where *she* as some reward gets to remarry any single man she wants(who says yes) and she frees our anti-hero from his golden prison.
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November 14, 2023 at 2:27 AM
Oh, and I was going to say: It’s not so much a backhanded compliment as an … forhanded insult!
He starts out by confirming her self-depreciation that “I look bland without make-up” by saying “I am glad you are aware of that” and *then* goes on to say she is “not bad to look at”.
A backhanded compliment would be the other way round … MOre like “You shouldn’t say that, dear. Those layers of flaking makeup doesn’t really help, anyway”, just formulated in a more elegant, mean, Jane Austen-villainess way.
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November 13, 2023 at 6:09 PM
I mean *re*clining reclining on puffs of pink cotton candy.
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November 13, 2023 at 4:25 AM
Answer Me 1997
For once, a drama is clearly showing how wrong this relationship bewteen a grownup and a child is. This is so uncomfortable and so off.
Even if the age difference is not enormous, he is the teacher figure for her, and she went into this in that typical child-like way: “I look up to him and love him, it makes me cool that he likes me! [But it feels strange]” – Many children end up being abused that way. Because the grownups abuse their love, admiration and gratitude. Sometimes even their respect for authority.
But in this show, it is clear to see how disgusting it is. Don’t date your students, teachers! Not your former students either!
john
November 13, 2023 at 5:36 AM
That set up was icky. Teacher was substituting this girl for her deceased sister too. If I recall correctly. .😵💫
bbstl 🧹
November 13, 2023 at 8:12 AM
I thought that was the ickiest part. I didn’t understand how the parents let that go on.
Midnight
November 13, 2023 at 5:55 AM
Also, it somehow feels ickier to some viewers when the teacher is a man and clearly larger.
When the teacher is a slight woman and the student is the giant Gong Yoo, it not only gets glossed over but romanticized even.
I hated Biscuit Teacher so much that it has made me unable to enjoy any highschool show with too large male students and too little female teacher, even if there is no loveline between them. (Eg. School 2013)
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November 13, 2023 at 6:46 AM
I don’t know that show. But I don’t like it with either gender. Depending on the relation of power, including occasion to groom, the size of the persons, how old they are when they meet, the relation can be worse or less bad – a night school ceramics class with all grown-ups is def. less horrible than a high school teacher and student (also after school is finished – unless many years have passed with no encounter and the age difference is 5 years at the most).
But it is a frequent fantasy … I think I can actually better tolerate it if it is closer to an erotic fantasy rather than depicted as something that would make a healthy relationship. Because most people know what a “fantasy” is.
But in general – it’s just urgh.
Bebe | Nessa❣️
November 13, 2023 at 7:42 AM
I saw the colour palette of this gif and immediately knew that it is “Reply…” related, but it wasn’t until I took a closer look that 8 realized it isn’t about the “Reply…” I’m thinking about 😅 Everything about “Reply 1988” is making headlines again, especially about the OTP because Hyeri & Ryu Jun Yeol just announced their breakup after being together for 6+ years
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November 12, 2023 at 5:23 PM
Perfect Marriage Revenge
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November 13, 2023 at 9:44 PM
@elinor @indyfan @hopefulromantic @sonai @mayhemf @ladynightshade @seeker @lapislazulii @lixie @attiton @DarkCc @kafiyah-bello @mindy @emsel @giocare
ladynightshade wants to be gazed at by namgoong min
November 14, 2023 at 10:11 AM
You are a hero and I sincerely thank you for your invaluable service.
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November 14, 2023 at 3:22 PM
😊❤️Thank you, you’re SO welcome!
Kafiyah Bello
November 14, 2023 at 4:15 AM
THIS is EXCELLENT gifing. It is so clear, lol.
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November 14, 2023 at 4:27 AM
Thank you!
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November 12, 2023 at 1:07 PM
Strong Girl Nam-soon week 6 episode 11-12 top post (#1):
Here is Si-oh, Binbin, Anton.
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He still has plans to get back at them. According to himself, he is new to love and friendship – except that one friend in the clip above. He needs to not be completely alone.
BTW what happened to that friend? Was Anton forced to kill him? Or is he somewhere around … someone we know?
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He is building his hope and his better self on this girl who is big time spying on him. It’s hard to see how that can end well.
Problem is, he is judged not solely based on whether he is nice to Nam-soon.
I know! I know. I wanted him to be the ML all along. I still want that. But the person they present to us here in the drama, he is a little bit too terrible. Especially when it hurts people who are not mobsters at all, like this innocent truckdriver. I can’t even give you the whole clip, it’s so disgusting.
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Still, I can’t help thinking of all the times they have said that people can change, and that they should have a chance. Also, that what they really want to bring down can only be done in cooperation. Everybody storms out alone all the time, without telling everybody else what their plan is. What if Si-oh had shared his plans earlier on?
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November 12, 2023 at 1:21 PM
Strong Girl Nam-soon (‘s brother, Nam-sin) w6 #2
When we left him last week, Nam-sin was in danger of dying. But the whole family gets together and takes care of him, and Mama Geum-ju even pays the shady organisation for the antidote.
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This beautiful scene happens
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This part of the story should have ended here. Or Geum-ju could have said something like: “Anything I can do for you, I will help you” or “I don’t base your value on your weight. I will not comment on what you eat anymore”. Instead her epiphany end up like this:
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“Ha ha”.
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November 13, 2023 at 6:04 AM
Strong Girl Nam-soon and civil rights w6 #3
K-dramas seem to have an ongoing war on civil rights. Especially when it comes to privacy and warrants. Both Nam-soon and Behind Your Touch people’s right to phone privacy. (+ indicating that breaking the bones of prisoners is “cool”. Yeah, cool like when Shi-oh beats up his employees).
https://www.dramabeans.com/activity/p/1466000/#acomment-1466428
In this episode, we have two attacks on civil rights. I am not one to know exactly where different limits should be, but this seems like too little confidence in the legal system and too much in the police.
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I know rich people get away with things they shouldn’t because they can afford lawyers that are cleverer than the spirit of the law, but having a lawyer in itself is not a villainous thing. The law is not made for people to cheat justice, otherwise, why don’t we just leave any judicial process to lynch mobs?
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November 13, 2023 at 6:35 AM
Strong Girl Nam-soon w6 #4
I can’t say that I wasn’t warned, but as long as I could hope Si-oh would get in clinch with Nam-soon in a good way, this whole show was more interesting for me.
It’s not gonna happen. Nam-soon hates when he touches her even in a non-sexual way.
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But clearly, the interesting thing is what his reaction will be to having his feelings taken advantage of like they are.
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Hee-sik seems to finally have given in to the pressure of consummating. Maybe it helped that it was Nam-soon bringing it up instead of her mum or dad, and also, she mentioned the word “love”.
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I think this was it for now! This last episode was the first time I was not thoroughly entertained. I want to know what happens, but we all knew from the start that this show would not be what it promised to be.
This crazy writer should work with someone visionary one day – what a fantastic drama it could be. [sigh].
My favourite “desperate longing” gif. This time representing me longing for what I could imagine this drama to be.
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@sp2022 @seeker (Cera) @GhostofTim
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 13, 2023 at 6:50 AM
Thanks for keep us in the loop. I do wish I could join you for live watching but I missed the bus setime during week 3 and was never able to continue after that. Sigh. But I do enjoy your gifs thoroughly. If some enterprising soul over at YT makes a supercut of Nam-soon and Hee-sik, I would watch that and call it a day.
SP2022
November 14, 2023 at 2:40 PM
Thank you for the gifs! I tried to stay with this drama but with with so many live watches and the downward slope it seemed to be on I had to call it a day once I stopped enjoying a few weeks in a row.
I’ve enjoyed staying connected through your gifs and thoughtful posts. And I completely commiserate on the wanted potential, those at the dramas that frustrate me and stay with me more than the dramas I just didn’t expect much of and then didn’t enjoy.
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November 11, 2023 at 3:47 PM
Perfect Marriage Revenge
Here, my contribution to the evaluation and disgestion of today’s episode (No.5)
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 11, 2023 at 4:00 PM
😂 I salute your font choice. I’d like to see what the shaman would say about Do-guk’s vitality.
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November 11, 2023 at 4:37 PM
Me too!
Reaction Video
I don’t know how the shaman would react to our ML, but this guy seems to have some pretty strong reactions to him?
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November 11, 2023 at 4:08 PM
Are everybody bit me totally aware of what this is referring to?
john
November 11, 2023 at 4:35 PM
I believe it is an artist rendition of the car crash ?
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 11, 2023 at 4:51 PM
@seeker proposed a theory that the driver of the black car in Yi-Joo’s car crash is significant, possibly even Dok-ju. So her sketches and his response to them lend credence to that idea. At least, that’s my interpretation of the interpretation.
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM
Gah – sorry, Do-guk. I don’t know if that was me or weird auto spell … erm, probably me. 😒
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November 11, 2023 at 5:13 PM
Autocorrect makes me post in Danish, when it’s past midnight.
Bad, bad autocorrect!
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November 11, 2023 at 5:08 PM
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November 11, 2023 at 5:11 PM
FOr sure, it was autocorrect.
But you mean Do-guk, then, but with another haircut, Peach? And @seeker?
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 11, 2023 at 5:13 PM
Wait! Not sure this was brought up yet — but maybe it was stepbrother? He tends to show more forehead, no?
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November 11, 2023 at 5:28 PM
For comparison
<img loading="lazy" src="https://i.imgur.com/OBrL43r.png"
Seon-ha
November 12, 2023 at 5:05 AM
Oooooh. ooooooohhhhhh. The mystery deepens.
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November 11, 2023 at 5:35 PM
This picture from the right has the sharp chin and bit of hint of pugnose that ML has. Or does it just look like both of them a bit?
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 11, 2023 at 6:20 PM
Cecilie apparently despite typing the correct comment I cannot hyperlink, so this is the permanent to my post about the car crash and more.
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/Seeker/activity/1478301/
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 11, 2023 at 6:25 PM
** okay so autocorrect has corrected:
– Command to comment, and
– Permalink to permanent!
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November 11, 2023 at 6:30 PM
Thank you!
bbstl 🧹
November 11, 2023 at 5:29 PM
omg, at first scan I thought it said “but is she an olive?” 🤣
(haven’t seen the episode yet)
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November 11, 2023 at 5:31 PM
I am SURE that’s what she actually said! Makjang!
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November 11, 2023 at 6:11 PM
Under the circumstances, “But she’s an Olive?” is a natural thing to ask.
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bbstl 🧹
November 11, 2023 at 6:13 PM
Thank you for making me laugh all over again 🫒🫒🫒
bbstl 🧹
November 11, 2023 at 6:15 PM
WTH. I used three green olive emojis and got olive branches?
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November 11, 2023 at 6:19 PM
🤔😮😮😮👻👻🫒🫒🫒
Olives and girls and and maybe Do-guks with ambiguous “alive”-status are swarming the place!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 11, 2023 at 6:15 PM
Not dead or alive = coma
So Do-guk has to go to her in the “present” timeline and do “something” to enliven her.
Remind me again please what does a Prince Charming do to a Sleeping Beauty.
Ah, the Goblin’s Bride knows it all – Ppoppo-ye Ppoppo-ye Ppoppo-ye!
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November 11, 2023 at 6:27 PM
I’ll tell you what he does:
Quoting the original first written version, (though translated) version from 1696:
“He approached with trembling and admiration, and fell down upon his knees before her.
Then, as the end of the enchantment was come, the Princess awoke, and looking on him with eyes more tender than could have been expected at first sight, said:—
“Is it you, my Prince? You have waited a long while.”
[Pg 22]The Prince, charmed with these words, and much more with the manner in which they were spoken, knew not how to show his joy and gratitude; he assured her that he loved her better than he did himself. Their discourse was not very connected, but they were the better pleased, for where there is much love there is little eloquence. He was more at a loss than she, and we need not wonder at it; she had had time to think of what to say to him; for it is evident (though history says nothing of it) that the good fairy, during so long a sleep, had given her very pleasant dreams. ”
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/17208/17208-h/17208-h.htm#THE_SLEEPING_BEAUTY_IN_THE_WOODS
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 11, 2023 at 6:40 PM
I knew I could rely on you. 👏
That sounds just about right for Do-guk.
Seon-ha
November 12, 2023 at 5:07 AM
I love how he’s not Prince CharmING….he’s Prince charmed.
Seon-ha
November 12, 2023 at 5:08 AM
Your header gif is so good, Cecilie. Sooooo good.
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November 12, 2023 at 7:57 AM
Thank you! 🙂
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November 10, 2023 at 1:56 AM
Matchmakers small things:
So, while waiting for the weekend, here are three funny-peculiar things, and to note:
A mystery of episode four:
In the show, this girl is being treated as if she must compensate for being ugly. Even in this small clip, FL looks like it takes willpower to keep looking hopeful faced with … that face.
Even if we disregard inner beauty, I cannot see other than that she is a pretty girl, right?
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Be Concise!
Mostly this happens when Jung-woo goes on some pedantic rant again; FL answers pacifyingly “Yeah, yeah”, and he says “Once is enough”.
This time is a bit different, since she is correcting herself, sending him this way and that. Still, I think that “Just say it once” is something we will hear again.
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Here, poor Jung-woo suffers quite a bit after FL has demonstrated how to call forth love at first sight
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Noone seems to care for his pain, the poor sod.
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@manichan @sp2022 @marysadanaga
Kurama
November 10, 2023 at 2:01 AM
I don’t think they found her ugly but not feminin. She lacks the grace and the restraint they are expecting from a noble girl. She’s very energetic, very cute and like an open book.
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November 10, 2023 at 2:09 AM
Ah…! That’s where it’s at.
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November 10, 2023 at 2:35 AM
I think she’s a total cutie-pie. But not restrained so much, I give you that.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 10, 2023 at 2:48 AM
Very well expressed. Yes exactly that – not ugly just little lacking in social graces.
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November 10, 2023 at 3:36 AM
But she did say: “Does that [sob 😢] mean [sob 😢] … that I’m uglyaawaaaaaah 😭😭😭😭☂️?”
And they were like: “Ehm … [cough] uhm … But you’re cute!”
To me, that would indicate they thought she was ugly. Otherwise they’d say: “Naaaaaah, never! You’re our precious little diamond in the rough, lil’ sis’!”
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November 10, 2023 at 6:08 AM
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November 10, 2023 at 6:11 AM
Sister-in-Law’s Love and his hands
Hello!
I thought about the hands of that peasant that Soon-deok’s sister-in-law wants to be with. I thought they did not look like hardworking hands. Of course, that could just be a glitch, but they did seem to make sure we got a good look at his hands.
Of course, mud baths and mud masks are meant to scrub, soften, cleanse, and invigorate the skin, but I doubt hours of hard work in the rice field will yield this kind of result.
I made first a beautiful romantic “see his hands”-gif, ( https://imgur.com/6drt6kB ) and then I made a mix with people sowing actual rice by hand. It was hard to find pictures of rice-working hands that were not either a hand-photo model’s hands, or the hands of someone older than that young man.
Maybe all this means nothing, but I find it fairly probable that he is undercover rather than a real rice peasant. Here is the mix clip:
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Also, he is definitely afraid of being seen holding her hand. That of course would make most sense of all if he was an actual poor person – someone who could be beaten to death for daring to be liked be his betters, and who could not just “disappear” and find his network of rebels and a new identity.
Sorry to bother everybody all the time – it is really just for fun, and I hope y’all think it is. Fun.
@seeker @lapislazulii @indyfan @Reply1988 @kurama @sonai
@manichan @sp2022 @marysadanaga
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 10, 2023 at 8:05 AM
Lot of research and hard work for you but fun for us … also very informative. You make us learn whether we want it or not by making it fun. You are sneaky like that. 🤣
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 10, 2023 at 10:08 AM
Will be staring at his hands going forward 😂
There are a number of characters going undercover here, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if he were another one. Although if he’s a secret noble it’ll take away a chance for the matchmakers to work their magic to bridge the class divide.
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November 10, 2023 at 1:20 PM
I bet you he is on the wrong side of politics compared to her family. By that, I mean the progressive, anti-Confucian side. (As I recall wiki on “left state minister” and Joseon politics.
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November 9, 2023 at 10:26 PM
Comment to Joseon makeup:
Kurama
November 9, 2023 at 11:54 PM
Oh, is he the actor of the TV show Rise?
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November 10, 2023 at 12:58 AM
I don’t know? But I’d like to hear from you, if you feel like sharing.
We talked (under “The Matchmakers”) about makeup because of the supposedly “ugly” sister. There’s a whole actual song tht the gif is cut from, and you can find that on Youtube, searching for “Girl, you don’t need makeup”. The comedian in the center of this gif is Amy Schumer, the star of the show “Inside Schumer” and the film “Trainwreck”.
Kurama
November 10, 2023 at 1:14 AM
Samsoon is cute!
Personally, I don’t wear make-up for different reasons.
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November 10, 2023 at 3:24 AM
Neither do I.
pohonphee
November 10, 2023 at 8:48 AM
My skin care is my make up.
tabong
November 10, 2023 at 9:26 AM
They called a girl ugly for not wearing make up in the show?
I never wear make up. LOL
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November 11, 2023 at 6:58 AM
They didn’t exactly say she was ugly, but her sister said
-I don’t need to smile, because I am beautiful
– [sad, little-sisterish] Does that mean I’m ugly?
– Ehm … uhm … but you’re so *cute*!
+ pained, encouraging smiles, etc. As if they tried to hide the fact of her ugliness. And I am not being PC-encouraging here, I am not talking about being “visually challenged” or “alternatively looking”. She is just plain (plain as in “straight-forwardly) pretty. That’s what makes it weird.
tabong
November 11, 2023 at 9:48 AM
“I don’t need to smile, because I am beautiful”?
Yep, definitely a weird scene.
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November 9, 2023 at 4:39 PM
Discussion of female ideals as coquette, alluring virgin ab civilizors:
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Comparing the look of what is clearly a pre-teen child with that of silent movie superstar Asta Nielsen
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November 9, 2023 at 10:30 AM
The Matchmaker Detective Board
Bigger, slower, brighter!
I made clips of the what Jung-woo was looking at so that they can be watched in slow-motion.LInks below. They are MP4 because it’s better quality and you can make them fullscreen. Also, I have sharpened contrast, and enhanced colours. Know that the colours appear brighter than in “reality”.
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In the first clip I have included an enlarged version of what is at his right, which seems to be the direction he is looking at. Also, I have pointed out where Jung-woo is. Consider this gif just an illustration. To go a-sleuthing, follow the links.
1) https://imgur.com/sW8V3oW
2) https://imgur.com/giomNCq
3) https://imgur.com/4OQxBc1
4) https://imgur.com/3QOawVV
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@manichan @sp2022 @marysadanaga
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 9, 2023 at 11:14 AM
You have taken “pop” of color literally in an already pretty colorful show!
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 9, 2023 at 11:17 AM
Sigh,why am I reminded of Jang Shin-yu in the palace in the present timeline seemingly following a hanbok clad lady… don’t think that mystery ever got solved, did it.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 9, 2023 at 11:18 AM
Where is your Matchmaking history taking you.
Kurama
November 9, 2023 at 12:43 PM
I think it was like an echo of his past. He relived an event his ancestor/past life lived.
Semma Vetti
November 9, 2023 at 9:44 PM
It was solved, I thought – a memory of the past life, when “Mu-jin – who’s now a palace guard – sees Aeng-cho, he chases after her and they patch things up”
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 10, 2023 at 1:29 AM
Thanks for reminding. 😊
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November 9, 2023 at 1:17 PM
All the light in this scene was so soft, so even if it was beautiful and coloured, I took it up a notch simply so that details could be easier to discern, maybe. And that is also why I slowed it down. It was for detective purposes, not as a suggestion for the producers of the drama.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 9, 2023 at 6:05 PM
Good job 👍
Semma Vetti
November 9, 2023 at 9:38 PM
It was the queen, no? Going back after taking the CP to his “safe” house?
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November 9, 2023 at 4:25 AM
Privilege
I talked about this comedy pairing in a discussion and is putting this up for reference.
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It is definitely better with sound, for which reason I have put a link up for the same bit in MP4. https://imgur.com/AjKZYwc
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Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
November 9, 2023 at 7:49 AM
That is both funny in a horrible way and horrible in a funny way.
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November 9, 2023 at 8:47 AM
Yes, they are super sharp. (The comedians, not “Fritz and Paul” the characters). If you follow the link below you can hear their voices speak upper class Danish. I believe you can hear the class sociolect even as a foreigner.
Elinor is trapped in the timeslip
November 9, 2023 at 9:29 AM
I did! We’ve all heard the jokes about how Danish isn’t a language, it’s a throat condition – and yet I can make out individual consonants, vowels, and syllables, so is that what marks their speech as upper class? Danish speakers are as scarce as hen’s teeth here so I have no real-life experience. I want to see more of these guys, though. Part of what I loved about them is they’re dressed exactly like the upper class twits I knew in the 1980s – it could be a time warp. Some things are apparently universal and unchanging.
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November 9, 2023 at 11:18 AM
It’s a bit like “The Queen’s English”; They are so relaxed and “well”-brought up that they more or less articulate without closing their mouths. Does that make sense?
And there’s something typical also in the way they more or less of chuckle and grunt from being so pleased with themselves. It’s hard to distinguish what they say from how they say it, but I thought that maybe you could hear the area North of Copenhagen with the big houses (“The Whiskey Belt”) in their articulation, too?
Anyways, You can search on “Snobberne”, there are lots of clips on youtube.
A few of them are subtitled. I checked one out: It is poorly done, the tone is wrong. They speek a mixture of, you know “jolly good” and “Old chap”, call each other “søde” (means “sweet” but is a little less than that, but more than “nice”).
It’s like calling each other “darling” without being actual homosexuals (More like when women call each other those things, + they are so alike that they love each other for always agreeing it’s a kind of self infatuation) and then they fill in with pretty vulgar swear words. The subtitles I found were in a middle language tone, like I would have translated something I myself said. You will get the gist, but will have to add the tone mentally.
The way they talk is very authentic, and I know that if I had tried to write this kind of dialogue, I would have made it too nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSmJKWFTbNs
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November 9, 2023 at 12:28 PM
This is for you!
https://imgur.com/UJ5THkC
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November 9, 2023 at 1:28 PM
The throat sounds in Danish are becoming more an d more softened (like all our consonants) so that sounds can actually be very hard to discern. The Norwegians made an Alas! too, too funny sketch about Danish people not understanding each other anymore and just walking around in bewildered linguistic loneliness. But we do have the glottal stroke, of course. Without that, not Danish. It’s not so much a sound as a short stop in the sound of the rest of the word.
Also, we have a way of saying “yes” that consists of breathing in shortly. Mainly used for confirming we are still listening to someone who speaks. I didn’t ever think about that until I talked to an Italian, who kept making fun of me by gasping loudly each time.
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November 9, 2023 at 1:32 PM
Oh, here is that sketch with English subtitles.
https://youtu.be/ykj3Kpm3O0g?feature=shared
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November 7, 2023 at 5:06 PM
Perfect Marriage Revenge
You (Was it Ceecee?) described this situation. I giffed it for you.
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Cecee
November 8, 2023 at 12:43 AM
Yes! The awkward handstretch!!!!
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November 8, 2023 at 1:31 AM
But who wrote that they should just stay there, frozen in that position, while all the rest of the drama was displayed on their clothes? Did I dream up that prompt?
Cecee
November 8, 2023 at 1:36 AM
I don’t think I did. But if nobody takes credit, you definitely should take it!
I was just picturing how they discuss the scene.
“So, you face each and other with your hands outstretched”
“So we shake hands?”
“Of course not. Just leave your hands there.”
“Ok. For how long?”
“12 minutes, this is makjang land, baby. Maximal effort minimum impact.”
“Shouldn’t it be the other way round?”
“Who cares? Makjang!!!”
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November 8, 2023 at 2:10 AM
Not 12 minutes. “The rest of the drama” means … It is supposed to be 12 episodes, right?
Each on the good side of 1:15 hour long. But minus the time before the … Not “handshake“, … Handstand, maybe?
Which occurs at 1:22 minutes into fourth episode, which is 1:16:28 long.
So, not being too meticulous about seconds, it’ll be
“OK. For how long?”
“Ten hours and twenty-five minutes. This is makjang land, baby. [etcetera]”
Makjang!
Cecee
November 8, 2023 at 2:25 AM
cue to them receiving coffee and ramyeon by IV drip
I love it!
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November 8, 2023 at 5:34 AM
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 8, 2023 at 10:19 AM
I thought the first gif was innovative enough but the second is 🙀
Kafiyah Bello
November 8, 2023 at 5:08 AM
The strangest scene, they weren’t even touching hands, lol
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November 8, 2023 at 5:41 AM
It was very weird. It was so weird that it was maybe the one watch-worthy moment in those 2½ hours the weekend-episodes lasted.
🌸 Cera (@Seeker) 🌸
November 8, 2023 at 10:17 AM
Awww … that’s so not true.
You’re not feeling the makjang vibe then.
Kafiyah Bello
November 8, 2023 at 10:55 AM
Come on DK, don’t hate, APPRECIATE, come to us and enjoy the shenanigans. 😜😭😍
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November 8, 2023 at 11:42 AM
I have already been joining with a rich amount of gifs. It was quite fun to make the gifs, and other people’s updates are fun, too. But I am seriously SO bored while watching the show. And I don’t think the ML is hot at all.
I don’t want to hate on him for not being hot – it’s just that I can see other thinks he is, and for me, there’s just nothing to look at. To me, he is the type of guy who would sidle up to one (when “one” was younger) with some really dumb pick-up line that you could see coming from a mile away, and you just really, really hoped he would go away without you having to shout at him. (I know, he doesn’t play that kind of character, but he looks it).
I think I can enjoy a good “it was his adopted daughter, and later, they found out the plumber was really an undercover chaebol boy, and the brother’s leg was totally fine, and the whole fortune was hidden in a secret underground vault that opened when you turned the snow glass ball” thing … I mean, I am a Dickens enthusiast, and I guess he is makjang, if I has got the genre right?
But I am bored, and if I could turn up the speed to 1,5 it would be alright, but I can’t do that on viki … so I’m not quite sure I can keep watching this. Or maybe I can just watch half, in big jumps… and then read the recaps. Just to be along here. Because the show in itself has no attraction for me.
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November 8, 2023 at 11:43 AM
have not has
Kafiyah Bello
November 8, 2023 at 12:08 PM
Gotcha.
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November 7, 2023 at 1:15 PM
Jade Shade Silk Swirling
Matchmakers
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦆❤️🦆
November 7, 2023 at 2:20 PM
Really, what a beautifully framed moment!! And great color harmony, too.
DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
November 7, 2023 at 2:33 PM
Thank you! Seon-ha is probably right, they are going somewhere with those colours and their harmony.
Also, not just in this scene, but generally, a lot of silk is being swirled.
Seon-ha
November 7, 2023 at 6:42 PM
This was the most amazing moment for the OTP, Cecilie.
So many times tonight I had to pause, and literally catch my breath because I could NOT BELIEVE what I might be seeing…but this moment, I did 🙂
It was ideal. Thank you for capturing it.
Unaspirated
November 7, 2023 at 7:04 PM
This was really beautiful, but could someone also gif the smirk our ML had after he pulled the fast one on the terrible ministers? 😏
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November 8, 2023 at 12:10 AM
I’ll do that.
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November 8, 2023 at 12:41 AM
Here it is. It’s like they wanted to make sure someone would gif it.
And use it whenever they needed an illustration of “smug grin”.
Actually, I think I’ll have the “smug grin” gif for use after subtle burns here, too:
sonai
November 8, 2023 at 1:50 AM
So sweet! 😆
Unaspirated
November 8, 2023 at 4:20 AM
Perfection! Thank you so much!
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November 8, 2023 at 12:48 AM
But Seonha, if I gif the “Are you disappointed in me”, will you gif the “I am not a man who will … “? 🥹
You are best at that kind of moments, I think.
Seon-ha
November 8, 2023 at 3:58 AM
Well, thanks. I’m not sure what I’ll be doing—I’m actually still a little afraid to go back and do my “second watch” for gifs—but I’ll keep the request in mind!
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November 8, 2023 at 6:25 AM
It is like between 29 and 30 minutes into episode 4.
sonai
November 7, 2023 at 10:55 PM
Beautiful scene, beautiful gif! 👏
Of course he immediately recognized who she was! *clutches heart*
And finally some ducks in this episode! 🦆😆🦆
Seon-ha
November 8, 2023 at 3:59 AM
QUACK!!
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November 8, 2023 at 1:28 AM
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November 8, 2023 at 1:29 AM
I made a darker and a brighter version. Not sure which one is the better, so you choose.
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November 8, 2023 at 1:38 AM
Sorry. I decided after posting, that the lighter version was clearly the best. And to not waste everybody’s broadband, I reposted with only that gif, but forgot to change the text.
My brain was no cooperative.
Seon-ha
November 8, 2023 at 3:59 AM
No, sir, he did not like THAT feeling!
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November 8, 2023 at 7:44 AM
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November 8, 2023 at 7:56 AM
Above and beyond
Eyebrow acting. Better than you could imagine.
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 8, 2023 at 8:20 AM
😂
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November 8, 2023 at 9:41 AM
But he did see her.
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sonai
November 8, 2023 at 12:09 PM
Oh yes, was it her?! I was wondering if he saw the crown prince being deployed to the hideaway outside the palace, possibly! (Because did he not mention that “you wouldn’t see that person outside the palace”? But since the cuts were so quick I still don’t recognize anyone in the crowd there, not even Yeojudaek… 🧐 (might just hint to me needing glasses though)).
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November 8, 2023 at 12:42 PM
Maybe I misunderstood.
I can’t recognize her jade colours among the hoodie-covered silk cocoons sailing past him. But I can’t see any little brother-in-law crown prince either.
DK-Drama 🫘🏆Image of drama FL Character Deterioration🚺🍉🌱
November 8, 2023 at 12:43 PM
But he bent over, grasping his chest, so I just assumed it was her. On the other hand, he reacts like that on any love, and surely, there are lots of young ones in love among all people.
sonai
November 8, 2023 at 12:48 PM
👀 Hmmmm, maybe we’ll just have to wait and see then… 🤔 (I’m not mad about this. I love watching this show!)
The color scheme was again lovely in this whole lantern festival scene. 👏 (And the color of his hanbok is working, too!)
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November 8, 2023 at 2:53 PM
I love it very much, too.
Only, I get impatient!
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November 8, 2023 at 12:52 PM
This is what he seems to be looking at:
sonai
November 8, 2023 at 1:01 PM
Wow, thank you for this screen capture!!! 👏 🫰
So it is the sisters after all… 🎉
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November 8, 2023 at 1:10 PM
But I don’t get his comment about being outside the palace, then … don’t they live outside the palace? Or does this whole festival happen inside the palace area and they were supposed to *not* be there?
sonai
November 8, 2023 at 1:16 PM
@ceciliedk I don’t know… It surely is kinda weird. I don’t think they live within the palace at all… Maybe he *also* saw someone from the palace (someone who is near to the crown prince) in that crowd after all…? If we’re lucky, we’ll get an explanatory flashback in the next episode. 🤔
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November 8, 2023 at 1:52 PM
It could also be that “seeing the beloved everywhere” that you meet in K-dramas in exaggerated form (because I don’t know that it is normal to actually hallucinate about a crush, so much so that you meet them, you think they are a hallucination, as I have seen a couple of times in dramas).
Or …
No, … I hope there will be an explanatory flashback. Because I am confused, too.
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 9, 2023 at 8:33 AM
All I know is I’m confused too. Based solely on his words I thought it would be someone related to the crown prince. That would give him some inside knowledge to employ when the investigation into the crown prince’s death/illness/near escape (poor kid) gets underway.
Basically we need to set up the lantern festival equivalent of a crime investigation whiteboard with a timeline of parties’ rival at the site, blown-up headshots of the suspects, and many pieces of colorful string tying the clues together.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next episode reveals who he saw … it’s such a tease right now that it has to serve a plot purpose.
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November 9, 2023 at 8:43 AM
The sisters are there, and a hoodie like the one FL has is there, (see circled below here), and if she is not disguised as matchmaker, she belongs to the court, so he *could* have seen a court person who looked like FL and thought “No, can’t be”. But also, it didn’t seem like a weird thing for her to go out at the lantern festival, considering the family made ready to go together, and had had new hoodies made for the occasion.
sonai
November 9, 2023 at 9:45 AM
@ceciliedk Sure thing – didn’t Jung-woo and the ladies actually plan to meet up at the festival? The whole „look of Love“ training was done exactly for this occasion, wasn’t it… 🤔
@marysadanaga LOL it’s „CSI: Joseon“ (™️ @attiton ) all over again 😂😂😂
Semma Vetti
November 11, 2023 at 12:11 AM
This is the Queen. She is going back without the CP. Which is why ‘you wouldn’t see that person outside the palace’
Semma Vetti
November 11, 2023 at 12:25 AM
Oh no, I think she is Concubine Park, the evil cohort’s candidate.
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November 8, 2023 at 12:57 PM
And here is is the FL family on their way out
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November 8, 2023 at 1:20 PM
“Did you find Yeojudaek?”
“No. I must have mistook someone. There is no way someone in the palace would be out here”
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November 8, 2023 at 2:42 PM
Idk … you can check for yourself here, on viki or on the mp4:
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MP4: https://imgur.com/3ZylLI5
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November 6, 2023 at 2:44 PM
Sidewalk
I was inspired by some early origin of the Ministry of Silly Walks.
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sonai
November 6, 2023 at 10:42 PM
Cue Jung-woo flapping his hanbok wings like a penguin. (He did it again at the end of this scene! @attiton has surely noticed, too 😂)
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November 6, 2023 at 12:00 PM
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@attiton @Reply1988 @jls943 (unaspirated) @vienibenmio @elinor @coffeprince4eva @CecilieDK @angelshadows50 @claire2009 (Healer’s) @seeker (Cera) @lapislazulii @welh640
@darwi @Gikata @marysadanaga @darkcc @GhostofTim
Gikata
November 6, 2023 at 1:32 PM
In fact, I know! Bless my kpop education (specifically the legendary banger that is DBSK’s MIROTIC, but trust me, I’ve heard it in maaany songs) for teaching me the expression 넌 내게 빠져 “neon naege ppajyeo” which literally means “you have fallen (in love) with me”. Quick google search confirms that 빠져/”ppajyeo” indeed means “being out of it/not quite where or how one is supposed to be”, also is a part of phrases like “falling into the trap”, “getting in trouble”, “being absent/absent-minded” etc, so I believe this is exactly what you’re looking for. Won’t be surprised if there is more words/expressions with the same meaning since Korean is a rather rich language, but from my decade+ fansubbing experience to express such feelings it’s usually one of the 4 being used: “love”, “like”, “wanting/desire” AND “ppajyeo”. “I’ve fallen for you” – I’m relying on my poor knowledge and GT here – should translate to 난 너에게 빠졌어 “nan neoege/neoyege ppajyeosseo” (a bit insure about formality level with this one, but whatever).
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November 6, 2023 at 3:03 PM
Thank you SO much.
I am asking because a certain character keeps literally falling – all the time , and I started thinking maybe this falling was hinting at something less literal.
Gikata
November 6, 2023 at 10:07 PM
You’re welcome))) I believe it’s a universal metaphor because, you know, human biology is largely the same everywhere, so week knees due to FEELZ shouldn’t be a region-specific symptom of love.
darwi
November 7, 2023 at 7:28 AM
I cannot speak for a lot of languages, but in French it is indeed the same “falling in love = tomber amoureux” but we do not say “I’ve fallen for you”, the adjective amoureux is always present. If you fall with no other indication in French, you fall on the ground or you drop dead.
Sweeping someone off their feet is faire perdre la tête (to loose one’s head) or subjuger / subjugate.
But there is no equivalent to head over heels. (Or I do not find a corresponding expression).