Beanie level: Noble idiot

BRIDGERTON: All right, this may have already been discussed here but, any Beanies here that have read the books AND watched the series? I NEED to discuss about several elements that I think were in there because they didn’t anticipate the other seaons (so fast, maybe). I don’t think it’s horrible, I’m just curious to know how they’ll compensate for it in the next seasons.

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    Hi. I read books 2, 3 and 5 and I’ve watched vloggers reacting to the show episode by episode so I know almost all of what happens. Even I am curious how they are going to incorporate the books

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    I skimmed book 1 after watching (they really handled some stuff worse in the book, and it still wasn’t great in the adaptation) but still have a lot of thoughts. I have read books 2 and 3, and am waiting for some of the others to become available. I have some thoughts on how they may proceed, but would love to hear others’ thoughts too. (I don’t mind spoilers for other books.)

    Also, The Viscount Who Loved Me is my new favorite ridiculous book and I cannot wait to see how they recreate some of this delightful nonsense. And I mean this in the least condescending and sarcastic way possible – I very much enjoyed this book but one cannot deny that it is also somewhat ridiculous.

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      BE WARNED! you said you’re fine with spoilers from the other books, so I have a couple here at the bottom! It is most definitely ridiculous and yet, so addictive! My justification (not that you need one) to read them at the time (more than a decade ago) was to improve my vocabulary! Sometimes it helps to have ESL, haha. Also, I’ve just noted the stuff I was grumpy about but I’d LOVE to discuss the books if you’d like!

      My two main gripes about the show were a) where Marina (who is not a character in the books at all) goes off with and it is implied that she will marry Sir Phillip Crane – who is supposed to be Eloise’s love interest/end game in her book! b) YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT WHO LADY WHISTLEDOWN IS UNTIL HER BOOK! But I guess as long as only the audience aware and not the characters in the universe, it’s ok *grumble grumble*

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        OK so I saw the Marina thing on twitter and I have issues with it for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with Phillip Crane being Eloise’s love interest. First, the optics of the whole Phillip-Eloise romance after they completely bungled Marina’s story are so bad for a number of reasons, but the most significant of which is that they are basically killing off the Black cousin who had a baby under questionable circumstances and after screwing with her for a whole season. I know that Phillip has kids in the books, and while I’m not sure whether they are his or not, and I don’t really care, BUT if the show continues down this path, it’s not great. Unless they have a long term plan, but it felt shoehorned in and I’m not happy about it. (Granted, I think the entire Marina story was a hot mess for a number of reasons, the aforementioned optics of it being a part of that.)

        As for the Whistledown thing, I don’t really care that they revealed it this early, because I think it will make the upcoming seasons more interesting if we know who it is. Because TV is a visual medium, there’s a lot they can do to set up the reveal in the coming seasons if the audience is aware of her identity. I often think about how Gossip Girl just pulled GG’s identity out of its ass at the end of the series and it how it made no sense whatsoever. Here, even though we eventually know from the books that Penelope is Whistledown, if we see it in the next season and we see how it effects her relationship with the Bridgertons, it makes for more interesting television. In the books we don’t need these visual stimuli because the points of view in the text are focused only on the main characters and everyone else is secondary. But TV allows multiple POVs and it means you need more to build on. So having Penelope hide her identity is something that could help flesh out the storytelling.

        My biggest issue with the whole season was how they handled Daphane literally assaulting her husband and forcing a choice on him that was not hers to do. Just because the gender roles were reversed from the usual way we see sexual assaults, does not make it less heinous. I think the book was even worse and there was no reckoning for Daphne, but the show let her off the hook pretty easily as well. And I get that a lot of it is her lack of sex education and that Simon was deliberately misleading her, but forcing him to have a child he did not want is wrong on so many levels. And I totally think his reasons for not wanting a child, while valid, are incredibly stupid. But the book did these mental gymnastics where he is basically gaslit into thinking he was wrong, whereas at least the show at least got him to get to the rational end and had him deal with his trauma to a degree. The book set up the trauma but then just brushed it under the rug because of twoo wuv, which, uh, no.

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          I LOVE your thoughts. On one hand, including diversity in the series and admitting it as part of the script that it’s only because the king decided to marry a non-Caucasian that they have the status they do and showing a society that unbias-ly accepts the diversity was great but on the other hand, it’s what you said about Marina!

          I see what you mean about Penelope. I guess I just never got past my “WTF, you’re not supposed to know that” reaction to consider the narrative of the show and not just the books (or the audiences that have never read the books)

          Daphane’s actions are by no means excusable. There weren’t in the book, and they aren’t in the series. The show made it not as awful as the books, I agree. I don’t know (as I am not a writer of any kind) if it would’ve been possible to convey the same story elements without showing the assault or how Siamon’s trauma was handled – BUT THAT’S WHY THEY’RE THE WRITERS AND TAKE CREATIVE LICENSES. You’d think they’d be able to come up with something to keep the integrity of the story WITHOUT keeping it problematic, but alas.

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            I think the series would have been stronger if they had not shoehorned in a reason for the diversity – just let the show exist in an alternate reality. It was already asking us to suspend belief for so many other things. It still doesn’t change the optics on Marina – that’s something which would not change regardless of race explanations because it’s connected to our real world – but it would then make Simon’s story stronger, because it wouldn’t be connected to race at all, and be focused purely on the trauma and parent-child relationship.

            I too have wracked my brains to figure out how to tell the story without actually resorting to assault – I thought that maybe Daphne could just confront Simon, but that wouldn’t have the same impact if there isn’t a pregnancy possibility. But like you said – the writers are allowed to take creative licenses. I mean, at least they didn’t gaslight Simon, but like the book I did find the ending a bit sudden and thought that things could have been explored a bit more. Though I guess people aren’t watching/reading romance for it’s exploration of trauma.

            I do have to ask – how is Eloise’s book? Of all the ones, it’s the one which has the least appealing story (from the blurb) but also has one of the most appealing characters. Though in the books, Hyacinth may actually be my favorite sister so far – she’s so sassy. Also, Book Colin is far superior to TV Colin, and they need to fix this next season. I think having him involved in the Marina story messed with his character and made him more annoyingly noble and less rakish, which is a pity. I get that it also puts him and Penelope together, which was needed for TV story purposes, but it didn’t quite work like they wanted it to, I think.

            TV Benedict is way more interesting than Book Benedict, but I don’t actually dislike the latter. I think Book Benedict comes off as a bit more arrogant but it works for his story, and that can easily be adapted to TV.

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        ALL THAT SAID, I absolutely adore the ridiculousness of the second book and sincerely hope they stick to it closely, because oh my God Anthony is the most ridiculous person ever and I love it. I cannot with his whole “I won’t love my wife” thing and then he’s all “Yes, I’ll totally marry the woman I can’t stop thinking about and lusting after but won’t love her“. Like, honey, no, that’s not how feelings work.

        But also I love Kate because she is exactly the kind of woman Anthony needs. I can’t wait to see Kate kick Anthony’s ass both figuratively and literally in the game. Also, I need to see the whole Pell Mell incident played out in full because it was glorious.

        We will not speak of the ridiculousness that is the bee sting, because it is so silly and yet one of my favorite absurdities ever committed to paper, and I love it.

        I haven’t read past Benedict’s book yet, but I liked his book, but they could probably have it and another book overlap because I don’t think it would fill 8-10 episodes well. Also, I think they could do some interesting things if they flesh out the class and social commentary from that book. But it’s also literally just Cinderella, Bridgerton style.

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    I have skimmed through all books and the series as well. The whole thing (books and show ) is ridiculously enjoyable. It was meant for not taking seriously and thats what I did.

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    @spicykimchi I have read the entire series as they were released (she was a local author back then) and I am always happy to discuss- to the extent that I remember them!

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      Local author? That’s so cool! I’m definitely down to discuss the books!! Hah my recollection is a bit dusty as well because I read them a while ago

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I was going to comment on the JSW/PHS drama announcement yesterday with a “I thought this was a joke, but looks like it’s not. Alas.” , but I couldn’t be bothered to sign in. I guess that was a good thing.

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So I joined the Start-up bandwagon. I love it and I’m already in HJP’s corner. The heartache is coming, I know it but who can resist those dimples? That being said, I know she has some issues with herself, but I really can’t stand In-Jae just going below the belt and not even being apologetic. I don’t think she thinks what she’s doing is wrong. Someone needs to put her in her place. I feel like it may be Ji-Pyeong down the road giving giving it to her but she needs a reality check.

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    Can I just say that when you abbreviated Han Jipyeong’s name I read it as Harry James Potter? 😂😂😂

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    dimples is an experienced chabol brat tamer. why am I kind of adding the Deliveryman as a sort of work eperience for Ji Pyeong it is so funny. Like if dimples has it in the CV then JP also.
    but I mean how. what could even he do
    no I think people cant expect someone else to solve their issues we eat our own soup. The sisters have to state what it is they truly desire ( perhaps who we need here is Lucifer..) and then… put in some goddamn effort. they benefit more from working together. it is inevitable that stronger companies in the same field swallow the underdogs and blend so even if you are former enemy you might end up working for the same goal.

    look at me mixing other tv shows into kdrama world but I mean the survey asked if we would, too.

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      actually that sounds wrong no I dont mean underdogs always get swallowed or they should. oops. they might becme no 1.

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      *sigh* “We eat our own soup* couldn’t have said it any better. I just don’t know if SDM has it in her to confront her unni and I don’t think WIJ has it in her to admit her regrets and in turn her wrongdoings to hide those regrets from herself

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        First i’ve heard of this expression – usually it’s we make our own bed.. But i like it, i’d rather eat soup really.

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          I just direct translated what we say in Estonia – Söö nüüd ise seda suppi, mille sa kokku keetsid! – You made this soup, you eat it.

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Is the annoying second lead in DDSSLLS the mean doctor with the mole in RDTK 2? Am I confusing two different actors?

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    Yeah, the annoying second lead is the surgeon who gets swooped in RDTK 2, the guy with that weird trauma from the past related to the bus accident.

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    Whoa! It was him! I only remember him from IOTNBO. HAHA

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    Yes, he is Kim Joo Hun! He was also in It’s Okay to Not be Okay and I loved him there so much!

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    Yes he is. He also stars opposite Kim Go Eun on the movie Untact, released by Samsung yesterday 😁

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    He is annoying right?! I thought I was the only who felt that way. Can we just let Jun have more lines n time with RaRa than him..

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TTNT ep 3 was a bit…boring? Though the end credit music gives me Charmed vibes.

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Suppose a person were to start a drama and had to pick between Graceful Family and Into the Ring, which one would be the first pick?

Asking for a friend

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    Never watched Graceful Family, but Into the Ring is fun and delightful!

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      Everyone needs to see Nana’s exaggerated power walk 🙂

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        There goes Go Sera, straight to spicykimchi’s “friend” to tell them she needs her vote:

        Mom is pretty awesome too:

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      Thank you! I think the official decision after looking at all the input is: Into the Ring followed by Graceful Family

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    Into the Ring, Into the Ring, Into the Ring

    But Graceful Family is good too if you want some makjang fun.

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      INTO THE RING IT IS! But it will be followed by Graceful Family as well. I think the dilemma was only about figuring out which one to watch first

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    I think it depends on your mood. They have very different vibes, but Into the Ring is super fun and a good pick-me-up, whereas Graceful Family is a full-on makjang-melo but fast paced so it never feels draggy. Both have excellent female leads who never get overshadowed by their male counterparts and both are totally worth watching. I may personally like Into the Ring a bit more, but only because I prefer comedy and because it has one of my favorite dramaland couples in a long time.

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    Those two have different feels xD But if in the mood of something light and fun, I’d go with Into The Ring. If in a mood of a little makjang with a little fun, Graceful Family.

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    INTO THE RING

    But I haven’t seen Graceful Family…

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    Graceful Family… you’ll end up bingeing it.

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    Into the Ring!

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    I’m part way through Into the Ring and laughing during every episode. It’s wonderful.

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    Into the Ring!

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Hospital Playlist thoughts: Maybe Song Hwa hasn’t gone out with any of the guys (or any guys at all for that matter for all we know) is because she prefers women.

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#30DayDramaChallenge
Day 5: Favorite Female Leads

Choi Ae Ra: Fight My Way
Yankumi: Gakusen (All of them, because she’s a beast like that and I’m a dork like that)

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#30DayDramaChallenge
Day 5: Favorite Male Leads
In no particular order:
Gong Woo Jin: 30 But 17
Eun Sub: I’ll find you on a beautiful day

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I’m in a really strange head space right now and just need an escape. So I’ll try it with this. #30daydramachallange.
1: Favorite KDrama
I don’t think I really have a #1. At this moment I think I’d go with Healer. Not because it’s the best of dramas. But because I comeback to it every time I need something comfortable and familiar or when I just don’t feel like watching any of the dramas on my tbw list
2: Favorite CDrama
Haven’t seen one (I don’t count Put Your Head on My Shoulder cause I never finished it)
3: Favorite JDrama
Hana Kimi
4: First Drama
My Girl – My then roommate (now BFF), decided I needed to watch this drama. We almost got written up by our residence advisor because we were squee-ing too loudly in the middle of the night

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I thought I was one of those that would never be swayed by PPL. I write this as I sip my daily dose of Maxim while I hit “order” on my cart full of Korean skincare products.

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    People keep reminding me I need to order some k-beauty stuff! What did you order? (I am swayed by PPL!)

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      I ordered different types of sunscreens (face/body). People keep telling me Korean/Asian sunscreens are WAY better than the ones we get here in the US. As in, they’re not as chalky and don’t flake. I also got face cleanser, lip tings, emulsion, moisturizer and some face masks (yes, my bank account is crying). I am TRYING to do the whole K beauty regime but my middle name is lazy with all capital letters. Up until now, I just haven’t cared much for skincare/ make up. My daily “beauty” regime has been – shower, apply coconut oil all over, done. I can practically hear the whole beanieverse gasping in horror. Yes I know, I should take better care of my skin. I’m trying!

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      @ally-le I’ll let you know how effective my products turn out to be if I remember to not be lazy. But then again, I feel like I’ll force myself to not be lazy after spending so much money on them, lol

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Y’all, I don’t think Seo Woo Jin was jealous of In Bum when he and Kim Sabu hugged. I think he was bummed because Samchoon hugged Kim Sabu instead of him! Why did you have to do that to our Chan, Samchoon? Lol I kid. But it would’ve been nice if they’d thrown in some 30 But 17 meta in there.

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    I am not watching RDTK2, but I tuned in especially for the raspberry kiss that I did not get in the end!😤

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Hi Bye, Mama seems like it’s going to rip my heart out. Beanies that are watching this show, I’ll take you any insight you may have on this drama. I’m thinking I’ll give it a couple of episode and feel out the fan wall before deciding.

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    It does look like I’m going to make good use of my tear ducts. I like it though. The ghosts don’t look scary so I’ll stick around.

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    I really enjoyed the first two episodes. Sad yet funny too. I forsee a heartbreaking ending but with a sad, funny and healing journey getting there.

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    It’s sad since it dealt with the theme of death and overcoming grief. But it also balanced it nicely with a healthy dose of humor, so it’s not your usual tearjerker melo.

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Dear Beanies,

If I may selfishly ask, please send any spare positive/good vibes my way. I could use any and all for the next two days.

Thank you and lots of love <3 <3 <3

SK

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    You can come back to this reply any time you’re in need of some love
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    Of course!♥️🧡💛💚💙💜💟💗

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    ❤️❤️

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    Fighting! 😁😁💪💪❤❤

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    💕

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    💖💖💖 It’s not selfish to ask – we all need a little extra love sometimes. You’re strong for asking. Sending you all the good vibes and positive thoughts. May whatever is bothering you pass soon. 💖💖💖

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    Fighting!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

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    Fighting! I believe in you!

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    Fighting!

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I see so many beanies being vulnerable in their “Love, February” posts and it’s fantastic. It’s nice to know that this really is a safe space, we support each other even if it’s virtually and that really helps. Sometimes it’s hard to open up to your closest support system, so it’s reassuring to have Beanies cheering you on. Not everyone understands what you’re going through or have been through because “ not everyone can see your thestrals **”, but we’re still going to be here for you, in whichever capacity possible.

** Full credit for the quote to the member that posted this on a FB group I am part of after subscribing to a podcast.

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There are several versions of this MV out. I think this one is my favorite. I just needed to put it up here for my own reference.

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    Yeah, this one’s daebak. I love seeing the artist’s performance edited with the program.

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My office is part of a large campus with many office buildings. My actual team sits in a different building, and I sit with people on a project I am working on. I don\’t know most of the people in this building. During the workday, I like to take 5 minute breaks now and then to stretch my legs, get some water, use the facilities, etc. I started passing by the same few people during my breaks. We eventually got to the \”smile-and-say-hello\” phase while passing by. A few months ago, one gentleman stopped me to chat with me. He asked my name, about my project, and where I sat in the building. Ever since that day, he would come by at least once a week to either chat or drop off something at my desk – an apple, a water bottle, a cookie, etc. Today, he came by and dropped off a brownie, with napkins, a fork, and a knife.
 
Dear sir, you have no idea who I am as a person. You only know my name, yet you show such random acts of kindness and thoughtfulness towards me. You have no idea how your random visits (even without the gifts) and a quick chat brightens up my day. Thank you for being you.

Love,
February

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Dear PSJ,

Keep Slaying.

Sincerely,
All the viewers of Itaewon Class

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Parasite winning big at the Oscars is a win for SO many different reasons. Obviously, the team that created this masterpiece is going to be happy and proud. This has nothing to do with me. The only way I was “involved” was that I watched the movie – and got 5 (yes FIVE!) other people who roll their eyes at me when I talk about K-dramas to watch it with me. They all enjoyed the movie and were now open to other foreign language productions (Doesn’t have to be K-ent!)
So then, if this has nothing to do with me, why do I feel such a feeling of contentment and satisfaction towards their win? I don’t gain anything from it. I am just so darn happy for the team. I don’t understand this emotion but it’s there.
To everyone that was involved in the success of Parasite, including the audience, congratulations!

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I am waiting for tomorrow. Hopefully tomorrow will be the end of waiting, and beginning of something amazing. I keep telling myself not to worry. I don\’t have any control over the outcome. If the outcome is in my favor, there will be a whole new meaning of love with it\’s wonderful layers. Here\’s to hoping for a different kind of love.

Love,
February

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